Obama may push for ban on assault wea...

Obama may push for ban on assault weapons

There are 667 comments on the The Indian Express story from Oct 17, 2012, titled Obama may push for ban on assault weapons. In it, The Indian Express reports that:

Democratic President Barack Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney engaged in a rare tussle over gun control on Tuesday, and Obama opened the door to pushing for a ban on assault weapons if he wins a second term.

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Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#477 Nov 21, 2012
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Do ten years old legally drive cars or drink beer ?
I am starting to think you are the 10 years old.
I am starting to think you are a typical Republican who doesn't know jack about the Constitution.

Do 10 year olds or anyone else have a Constitutional right to drive or drink beer?

Now, does a 10 year old have rights concerning unreasonable searches and seizures? Free Speech? Own property?

The Constitution limits age concerning voting. Does the Constituion limit the 2nd Ammendment due to age?

I don't know about a 10 year old, but certainly by the age of 15 you would not have to have this brought to your attention.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#478 Nov 21, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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As has been aptly explained to not a few times past, minor children are under the care of their parents/guardians, and cannot exercise the full ranges of rights without parental discretion.
Such a situation has existed in most communities of people from antiquity.
That you keep tossing out shit while pretending some some degree of validity seems to be your signature: Vapid, mindless, bullshit.
The Constitution limits voting according to age, does it limit the 2nd Ammendment by age?

The issue here is not what is actually practiced, it is what the Constitution says or does not say.

Your argument is an explicit acceptance of gun laws at the state and local level which is what we have today.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#479 Nov 21, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you know the old saying: When one can't dazzle with brilliance, then one baffles with bullshit.
[email protected] That was exactly what he was trying to do.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#480 Nov 21, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
Got yo 'bama pho' yet?
Nope, unlike you I went for the "bama beer."

Given your argument above concerning children carrying and how those laws are accepted (even though they are not nearly as old as you pretend) even though there is nothing in the Constitution concerning an age and the 2nd Ammendment; what would be unConstitutional about registration, background checks, and other gun laws?

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#481 Nov 21, 2012
Village Mystery wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you 5 years old? What's next, "That's what she said" or "I know you but what am I" or how about just calling me fat or gay?
Go back and read your post. It is like your last post, a bunch of BS.

I am generally considered to be on the left side of the aisle and I know many on the left that would limit a Presidents ability to wage war to only strike other nations without Congressional authorizations IF the US had been attacked AND the attack was substantial enough that not counter-striking would place us in real danger of wide-spread destruction. I would even make it an impeachable offense if Congress decided the President over-stepped his boundaries.

The Right controls education, not the left. It is the right's idea to mandate school testing and to point primary education towards college to the almost exclusion of vo-tech. Teachers teach the material they are provided like in Louisanna where soon teachers will be teaching creationism on the taxpayers dollar. Teachers teach, right-wing state agencies decide what will be taught.

You can't brag about having 30 Republican Governors and how many state legistlatures without taking the blame for what is wrong. If the right has a better way, they can certainly fix it in Republican states with piss-poor education systems. How long have Republicans ran Mississippi, Texas and other bottom of the barrel states?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#482 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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I am starting to think you are a typical Republican who doesn't know jack about the Constitution.
Please show the crowd where backround checks for firearms are anywhere near Constitutional, or do you not know the meaning of "shall not be infringed"?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#483 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Person-to-person sales could take place at DMV's, gun shops, and police stations where the registration is changed and the background check is accomplished. The seller could go with the buyer to maintain ownership and possession of the gun until the background check is completed. It would be possible for the buyer to go early to get the background check so the seller would not have to stick around.
You don't know much about the gun sale and background check system do you?

Number one, its illegal to take a firearm into a government building. I wonder what they are afraid of? Lol.

Number two, the gun is part of the background check process. The firearm's serial number is checked, double checked, included on the paperwork, then triple checked. So no, the buyer could not go early to get the background check.

You really should try educating yourself on topics you know nothing about before looking ignorant.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#484 Nov 21, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Please show the crowd where backround checks for firearms are anywhere near Constitutional, or do you not know the meaning of "shall not be infringed"?
Hey, I am all with you on this as soon as you admit that Constitutionally 10 year olds should be able to openly carry to elementary school.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#485 Nov 21, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know much about the gun sale and background check system do you?
Number one, its illegal to take a firearm into a government building. I wonder what they are afraid of? Lol.
Number two, the gun is part of the background check process. The firearm's serial number is checked, double checked, included on the paperwork, then triple checked. So no, the buyer could not go early to get the background check.
You really should try educating yourself on topics you know nothing about before looking ignorant.
Interesting, so where do you leave your gun if you visit a restroom facility in a federal park?

I know ways to legally carry a gun into certain government buildings by rendering incapable of being fired. The real question is why don't you?

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#486 Nov 21, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know much about the gun sale and background check system do you?
Number one, its illegal to take a firearm into a government building. I wonder what they are afraid of? Lol.
Number two, the gun is part of the background check process. The firearm's serial number is checked, double checked, included on the paperwork, then triple checked. So no, the buyer could not go early to get the background check.
You really should try educating yourself on topics you know nothing about before looking ignorant.
BTW: Why couldn't your problems be taken care of in the law that establishes the requirement for background checks and registration?

Do you know why the background check is linked to the serial number?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#487 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Hey, I am all with you on this as soon as you admit that Constitutionally 10 year olds should be able to openly carry to elementary school.
As it has been explained to you already, 10-year-olds are either wards of their parents or wards of the state and are not afforded the same rights as adults.

As I just told my teenage son the other day when he was "feeling his oats".....this household is NOT a democracy. It is a monarchy, and I am king supreme.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#488 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting, so where do you leave your gun if you visit a restroom facility in a federal park?

I know ways to legally carry a gun into certain government buildings by rendering incapable of being fired. The real question is why don't you?
Go ahead and try that. Let me know when and where you do. I want to be there when you get drawn down on.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#489 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>BTW: Why couldn't your problems be taken care of in the law that establishes the requirement for background checks and registration?

Do you know why the background check is linked to the serial number?
You tell me.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#490 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting, so where do you leave your gun if you visit a restroom facility in a federal park?

I know ways to legally carry a gun into certain government buildings by rendering incapable of being fired. The real question is why don't you?
You live in fantasy land.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#491 Nov 21, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
As it has been explained to you already, 10-year-olds are either wards of their parents or wards of the state and are not afforded the same rights as adults.
As I just told my teenage son the other day when he was "feeling his oats".....this household is NOT a democracy. It is a monarchy, and I am king supreme.
The Consitution puts an age limit on voting. Can you show me the age limit on the 2nd Ammendment? Obviously if the founding fathers had wanted a limit they could and would have put one. And if children are wards, why the age limit for voting?

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#492 Nov 21, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Go ahead and try that. Let me know when and where you do. I want to be there when you get drawn down on.
Take the cylinder out of a revolver. There is no serial number on it so it is not necessary. Take the bolt assembly out of a bolt action rifle.

While someone may ask you about it (highly doubtful if this is normal procedure for gun transactions) it is highly doubtful you get drawn on unless you are carrying/acting in a threatening manner.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#493 Nov 21, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You tell me.
I asked you first.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#494 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Consitution puts an age limit on voting. Can you show me the age limit on the 2nd Ammendment? Obviously if the founding fathers had wanted a limit they could and would have put one. And if children are wards, why the age limit for voting?
Here's a little light reading for you:
http://www.minnesotalawreview.org/wp-content/...

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#495 Nov 21, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a little light reading for you:
http://www.minnesotalawreview.org/wp-content/...
I don't necessarilly disagree with this. However, you can not accept one as being proper and correct without logically accepting the other.

Stomping your feet and pointing out "infringed" is useless UNLESS you accept it totally.

The fact that "children's" rights have evolved over time is negated by the fact that gun regulation has evlved as well.
Village Mystery

Huntsville, AL

#496 Nov 21, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Go back and read your post. It is like your last post, a bunch of BS.
I am generally considered to be on the left side of the aisle and I know many on the left that would limit a Presidents ability to wage war to only strike other nations without Congressional authorizations IF the US had been attacked AND the attack was substantial enough that not counter-striking would place us in real danger of wide-spread destruction. I would even make it an impeachable offense if Congress decided the President over-stepped his boundaries.
The Right controls education, not the left. It is the right's idea to mandate school testing and to point primary education towards college to the almost exclusion of vo-tech. Teachers teach the material they are provided like in Louisanna where soon teachers will be teaching creationism on the taxpayers dollar. Teachers teach, right-wing state agencies decide what will be taught.
You can't brag about having 30 Republican Governors and how many state legistlatures without taking the blame for what is wrong. If the right has a better way, they can certainly fix it in Republican states with piss-poor education systems. How long have Republicans ran Mississippi, Texas and other bottom of the barrel states?
They WOULD? Where was the "anti-war" movement when Clinton went rogue? Where were they when Obama bombed Libya? Where is the media regarding Benghazi? They are WAITING for a government investigation to be completed? Lol, you must be joking. Maybe you are under the illusion that the "left side of isle" is still dominated by American Liberals -that your gang is not merely a tool in defeating the "right-wing" by any means and also using the energy from that to expand government power. If you think it is about anything other than those two things than you need to go and watch that sinister cartoon about "Julia" and go look at the CPUSA website and see the glaring reality that the Democratic Party is merely parroting them. A campaign BASED ON hostility towards "the rich" and hatred for the opposition - remember? A move towards central authoritarianism - are you telling me you can't see it?

Your little gesture of what you WOULD do about the abuse of power is laughable.

I was talking about the colleges and not the daycare centers known as the "public school system". These centers have basically become conditioning stations for collective behavior and the goal to mix as many skin colors into one building far exceeds the one to actually teach kids anything. These kids go into the colleges all non-thinking and ignorant and are then trained as political tools.

Who "bragged" about Republican governors? I said Americans are responsible. I'm not a Republican and I am fully aware that if the "red states" did secede that they would likely create an oligarchy and not preserve the USC at all. I happen to realize that American conservatism and liberalism have lost - you should realize it as well. Primitivism has gripped this country - it's what happens when people are not willing to preserve Liberty. That is what I have been saying. That you are instinctively hostile to that says alot about you. Really, go read the CPUSA website and see how familiar it all is. Acknowledge that they don't bother to run their own candidates but instead endorse Democrats. If you acknowledge just how significant that is then maybe you wouldn't be so hostile to my comments. If not, then just continue playing your part for them.

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