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Obama, Clinton to launch healthcare campaign push Tuesday

There are 124 comments on the Reuters story from Sep 23, 2013, titled Obama, Clinton to launch healthcare campaign push Tuesday. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama will turn to his unofficial "secretary of explaining stuff," former President Bill Clinton, on Tuesday to help with a final push to extol the benefits of U.S. healthcare reform before new insurance exchanges go live on October 1. Obama, who is in New York for the United Nations General Assembly, will meet with his most recent ... (more)

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Cat74

United States

#24 Sep 24, 2013
It is pretty sad when you have to call on an Impeached President to give yourself any credibility.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#25 Sep 24, 2013
We got trouble! Trouble I say!
Right here in River City!
TROUBLE!
And the only solution is Obamacare!
Well, if that don't work I've got 76 trombones (with 110 cornets close at hand).8070

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#26 Sep 25, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
What did you say? I couldn't hear you from location hidden.
hahahahahahahahahaha
You appear to have four or five locations. You do seem to get around.

“Don't let em take ur liberties”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#27 Sep 25, 2013
I will not submit.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#28 Sep 25, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>Bill Clinton's approval rate - 71%.

"By contrast, the most recent Gallup poll showed Clinton with nearly 70 percent approval ratings — the highest he has ever recorded in two decades on the public opinion roller coaster.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-cl...

Now, the House republiscum;

"PRINCETON, NJ -- Fourteen percent of Americans now approve of Congress and 81% disapprove. Americans' views of Congress have been highly stable, and highly negative, throughout the year."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163964/congress-ap...

Republiscum in the House are on their way out in 2014 Ray.
Bush's was at 80% pookie and it was less than two decades ago. You be just another phony liberal spreading fertilizer.
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#29 Sep 25, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
pookie: A term of endearment used for a loved one. Often used when one is aroused sexually.

Still trolling for men, log cabineer? Try your hometown gay bars in owussa.
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#30 Sep 25, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
My two favorate Presidents... I get a chill up my leg just thinking about how 'We the People' elected these 2 great Presidents.
Put the two together and you still do not have one whole man.

“Christian”

Since: Jun 10

Point pleasant, wv

#31 Sep 25, 2013
I'm proud to say I didn't vote for Obama and would never vote for Clinton!
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#32 Sep 25, 2013
SethSargent wrote:
I'm proud to say I didn't vote for Obama and would never vote for Clinton!
Like rugby said..he'd never get those votes anyway. I'm sure they're heartbroken.

“Christian”

Since: Jun 10

Point pleasant, wv

#33 Sep 25, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>Like rugby said..he'd never get those votes anyway. I'm sure they're heartbroken.
I hope they are lol
sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#34 Sep 25, 2013
Keywords: subsidies and deductables/copays.

The cheapest plan AFTER subsidies might be under $100 a month depending on where you live and your age. Without subsidies you are talking $328 month, that's $3600 a year for people who can't afford it health INSURANCE now.

The cheapest plan also only pays 60% so the other 40% of costs is still billable to the patient. Meaning once people with the cheap plan on Obama Care give the insurance card to the medical clerk and still are asked to pay a deductible or copay it will be game over for many. Then there's the crowd that ASSumes everything the doctor or hospital does will be free. Finally, depending on the procedure those deductables and copays still will be a financial burden for many.

Where will the subsidies come from? Penalty payers, over charged policy holders and/or the tax payers?

Subsidies also equal more paperwork and private information for health care INSURANCE.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#35 Sep 25, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
Obama and the administration have done a lousy job of communicating the virtues of The Affordable Care Act to the average American. Most of the problem has to do with its complexity. But if anyone an clarify its provisions to the people, it is Brother Bill.
A lousy job is the only job that can be done with the albatross known as Øbama-scare. There is very little in the law that is not more harmful than helpful. Sure, let college students stay on parents' plans longer, cover pre-existing conditions, any number of pro-liberty fixes to 'insurance'(because the law does nothing about what it was supposed to do - deal with health care cost). Trash the law, and start with the things Americans agree with and you won't have a law that Øbama still can't sell to Americans after four years.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#36 Sep 25, 2013
Didn't the Republican political branch of American politicians just get in bed with Chief Communist Putin who opposed Obama on a matter last week?

I'd be kind of careful in lobbying around that Communist tag knowing those politicians carry your water in Congress openly embraced Putin and his ideas and concept if even for a little while on a small matter.

You can't slap Putin on the back and congratulate Putin one week for his stance, and denounce his principles the next.
Ray Donovan wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, what a ticket. Two of the world's most successful liars - BS artists extraordinaire - will take to the airwaves to "explain" why you should trust the government with your health care.
Only a closet Communist or a complete idiot would trust the U.S. Government to:
1. Save money via their involvement
2. Control your lifestyle choices
3. Both of the above
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#37 Sep 25, 2013
The plans have yet to be unveiled in any State, so you have no information on what cost or plans exist at this time.

Subsidies and Tax Credits are determined solely by the adjusted gross income of the individual or family. The Subsidies are paid directly to the insurance company you purchase your policy from according to your income.

All policies whether purchased in the exchange or a company not in the exchange have basic minimum services and caps on deductible in every price category. No longer does the insurance companies get to set pricing structures without oversight and consumer protections.

Health Care Insurance Industry now have rules in place to protect consumers from being fleeced.
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
Keywords: subsidies and deductables/copays.
The cheapest plan AFTER subsidies might be under $100 a month depending on where you live and your age. Without subsidies you are talking $328 month, that's $3600 a year for people who can't afford it health INSURANCE now.
The cheapest plan also only pays 60% so the other 40% of costs is still billable to the patient. Meaning once people with the cheap plan on Obama Care give the insurance card to the medical clerk and still are asked to pay a deductible or copay it will be game over for many. Then there's the crowd that ASSumes everything the doctor or hospital does will be free. Finally, depending on the procedure those deductables and copays still will be a financial burden for many.
Where will the subsidies come from? Penalty payers, over charged policy holders and/or the tax payers?
Subsidies also equal more paperwork and private information for health care INSURANCE.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#38 Sep 25, 2013
59% of Americans agree with the present law, you obvious are in the minority that don't agree with the law.

In a democratic republic 59% is the majority of Americans. What majority do you represent because it's obviously not in America.

That was proven in the 2012 elections. Romney clearly ran on a platform to repeal Obamacare, seems you guys in opposition conveniently forgot the smack down of Romney, it's not as if the election was close and easy to forget.

You, your sense of fair play and justice by the standards established in our society is mildly distorted.
Far Away wrote:
<quoted text>
A lousy job is the only job that can be done with the albatross known as Øbama-scare. There is very little in the law that is not more harmful than helpful. Sure, let college students stay on parents' plans longer, cover pre-existing conditions, any number of pro-liberty fixes to 'insurance'(because the law does nothing about what it was supposed to do - deal with health care cost). Trash the law, and start with the things Americans agree with and you won't have a law that Øbama still can't sell to Americans after four years.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#39 Sep 25, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text> Bush's was at 80% pookie and it was less than two decades ago. You be just another phony liberal spreading fertilizer.
ohhhhhhhh, stop. That 80% came the week of the 9/11 Attack when Bush was on snooze.... up to that time and a week afterwards he lived down to his billing as a utter and complete failure as a President.

This is the guy who crashed the American Economy throwing millions of Americans out of work and into the streets in a matter of 8 weeks.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#40 Sep 25, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It is pretty sad when you have to call on an Impeached President to give yourself any credibility.
on the contrary, it's really bad when an Ex President refuses to endorse any candidate of your political party and distances himself from the current atmosphere surrounding the Republican Party.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#41 Sep 25, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
59% of Americans agree with the present law, you obvious are in the minority that don't agree with the law.
In a democratic republic 59% is the majority of Americans. What majority do you represent because it's obviously not in America.
That was proven in the 2012 elections. Romney clearly ran on a platform to repeal Obamacare, seems you guys in opposition conveniently forgot the smack down of Romney, it's not as if the election was close and easy to forget.
You, your sense of fair play and justice by the standards established in our society is mildly distorted.
<quoted text>
That is a blatant lie--that 59% support the law. You'll get that kind of number when you talk about individual portions, e.g., pre-existing condition coverage, but not the law as it stands. A majority of Americans oppose the law and that's just a fact.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#42 Sep 25, 2013
Far Away wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a blatant lie--that 59% support the law. You'll get that kind of number when you talk about individual portions, e.g., pre-existing condition coverage, but not the law as it stands. A majority of Americans oppose the law and that's just a fact.
If as you say a majority oppose the law, Romney would be president today. Romney ran on a platform to repeal the law, and Obama ran on a platform to improve the law.

It's not as if the Election was a close matter. The counting was over before 10:30 pm Eastern Standard Time. And Obama won by a large margin.

59% of the American public wants the law to go into effect, 33% desire the law to be defunded or repealed.

Again the Republicans come up short in the count of Americans. Your politics and choices in the direction of the country have thoroughly been rejected by the majority of citizens in America.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#43 Sep 25, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
The plans have yet to be unveiled in any State, so you have no information on what cost or plans exist at this time.
Subsidies and Tax Credits are determined solely by the adjusted gross income of the individual or family. The Subsidies are paid directly to the insurance company you purchase your policy from according to your income.
All policies whether purchased in the exchange or a company not in the exchange have basic minimum services and caps on deductible in every price category. No longer does the insurance companies get to set pricing structures without oversight and consumer protections.
Health Care Insurance Industry now have rules in place to protect consumers from being fleeced.
<quoted text>
With current information the cheapest or cheaper plan is the bronze plan but that plan only covers 60% of services AND you must hit a $3200 a year deductible. And there are exclusions to what is covered by insurance payments.

So one or two procedures a non insured patient might have done without could cost them at least 5000 dollars.$5000 is a lot of routine bills that could be paid for stuff needed for daily existence like utilities, car, house repairs, rent, mortgage etc. For many those few thousand dollars a year are the difference between bankruptcy, trashed credit rating, foreclosure, eviction and/or flatout poverty & welfare. I know people who staved off bankruptcy for years by not carrying health insurance.

Even the silver plan has a $2000 a year deductible. Two thousand dollars again are a lot of routine bill payments needed for daily existence.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/news/economy/...

http://www.egtrust.org/BRONZE%20PLAN%20 (includes%20Preventive%20Drug% 20List%20Pre-Certification%20L ist%20Consult%20A%20Doctor%20a nd%20Wellness%20Preventive%20F lyer)%20effective%209-1-11.pdf

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