NL drafts new football coach
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#1 Feb 9, 2010
9 Games over .500 in District A in 9 years is now "Extreamly Qualified". Lets not name this guy Vince Lombardi yet Bell and Snyder. Typical NL Move. No wonder our athletes dont go anywhere with these jokes in charge. So many top of the line athletes wasted at this school.
#2 Feb 9, 2010
Athletes go places IF THEY STUDY, LEARN, GET GRADES...
and FOCUS on their EDUCATION.
(btw... Good luck, coach. Hope the team has FUN.)
#3 Feb 10, 2010
You haven't watched college sports, Northern Lebanon Sports, or probally any sports at all.
Lets evaluate. Athletes go places if they study, learn, get grades. Yes going to school to get an education should be every athletes goal, there is no doubt about that. Have you watched any college interviews with "superstar" players. Half of them don't even know how to speak correctly. Heck half of them could probally get lost inside a cardboard box. In fact not only does the school pay for there tuition, it pays for a tutor to sit beside them and fill out there papers. These athletes go on to make more money in 1 year then me or you will make combined in a lifetime.
Now if we would get rid of these tools in charge at NL, and get a real athletic director who would do his job and get schools out to look at his athletes, and get rid of superintendents who chase coaches out maybe more northern lebanon students could get there educations you speak so highly of, and they would get those educations for free, or at a discounted rate.
ALMOST ALL athletes who have got scholarships from nl got them through there club teams, the only one that comes to mind who got a scholarship under Snyder is Travis "TD" Dresch who probally was a low level D-1 prospect. He ended up going D-2.
I can name a ton of situations similar to this. I can name a handful of ALL STATE athletes out of NL who only got JUNIOR COLLEGE scholarships. Thats pathetic.
Please compare these for me, I had to do a little research but I managed to pull these numbers up.
Both these Stat lines were from Senior Year of District 3 baseball players in the lebanon lancaster league.
.424 Batting Average 5 HR 31 RBI
.484 Batting Average 7 HR 28 RBI
The Top line, which I would say is worse then the bottom line, is that of Jeff Bianchi of Lampeter Stausberg who currently plays in the Kansas City Royals Farm System, in the 05 Amature Draft he was drafted in the second round #50 overall.(there are 30 rounds in the draft so anyone in the first 5 rounds is considered phenominial) He signed a bonus worth about 6 million.
The bottom Line is Eric Groff, the 2006 Graduate and probally one of NL's greatest athletes. He went on to play at Del Tech (A Junior College), and is currently in his last year at a D-3 College.
Tell me who isn't doing there job. That is one of many scenerios I can bring up.
Don "Good Christian Man" Bell needs to go to church for some convicition, because he is robbing the athletes at this school by keeping the joke Rod Snyder as the A.D. You already have 1 big error this year Don, get rid of your other error.
#4 Feb 10, 2010
dresch was not NEAR a d-1 athlete. very good high school player but a d-3 college athlete.you lost all credibility with me when you made that statement ,i did not read the rest.
#5 Feb 10, 2010
I agree with behive. If you think Travis Dresch was a low-level D1 athlete you are crazy. I suggest that everyone from NL go the Nike Camp at State College and take a look at what a real D1 athlete looks like. It's time to join reality Patron Saint.
#6 Feb 10, 2010
I don't want to pile on, but I agree that NL needs to wake up and realize that "top of the line" athletes aren't coming out of NL very often. Travis was an excellent high school player. He didn't have the size or speed to compete at the D-1 level.
Coach Beidler should be honored for the work he and his coaching staff did in restoring the program. I wish him the best of luck, and I would love to see him as the head coach of Hamburg or somewhere close so he can play NL on a regular basis, and run the ball 60+ times- beating them by 20.
Hopefully Wall can build on Beidler's success on and off the field, and be a man the community can respect. Maybe the director of player personnel bell will let this coach do his job without interference?
#7 Feb 10, 2010
JB brought a program back from the ashes,but let's look at the other part of his coaching tenure.
In the past 5 years or so,his players are getting the chance to go to college.Jack began football homeroom so that his players didn't fall by the wayside.Their homeroom teacher was or is one of his coaches.They were given someone to lean on each school day.The coaches monitored grades and by being with their teammates,they were provided a "family" away from home.
Jack worked the area colleges if he had someone he felt could play at the next level,or an iffy kid needed a chance JB provided the recommendation and laid his butt on the line for some of his kids.NL does not get the D-1 prospects, but they do get good athletes who are not blessed with D-1 height,weight or speed. Jack grew the program so that they started to win,leaders were developed,skills were improved and he helped raise the academic levels of those players . Schools came to take a look, and each year there are kids going to the next level,placed in a position to earn a degree.Mason Dechert,Tyler Kulp and Brenden Hormel are the last of the JB era to get a look,that is a shame.Thanks Jack,my kids and I appreciate everything you did to help shape their lives,sure you were the best football coach NL ever had, but your real success is in the lives you touched.
Coach Wall, best of luck to you,you will have no support from the admin and board.They have no bar for you to raise,they just don't care about you or the kids.Jack placed a bar,I hope you can press his bar to the next level.
#8 Feb 10, 2010
Outsider and Behive, I suggest you look at running backs like Mike Hart (Mich) and Toby Gerhart (Stanford) and see that running backs do play D-1 succesfully without being 6' 5". As a matter of fact behive, you lost all credibility when you said he's a D-3 athlete, as hes currently a D-2 Athlete. Do your research. As for Dresch, do I think he could have played at the Penn St's, the Boise States ect? NO. He could of played at the Appalachian Sts and the Mt. St. Marys and schools of that nature.
Seems funny though the two guys just question dresch not the matter that the athletes at NL get done over by poor administrating in the athletic department.
Funny that Behive and Outside completely over looked the interesting Groff-Bianchi comparison.
Simply over looked it because not much can be said about it.
#9 Feb 10, 2010
Maybe it just me, but its pretty sad to see that everyone is commenting about the issues with the program, but no one seems to care for the fact that they just hired a teacher to teach something that he is clearly not qualified to teach. I would be more worried about that then the status of their football program.
I may just end up running for school board soon cause this is pathetic.
#10 Feb 10, 2010
Travis Dresch was a good HS athlete. You are nuts to think he could play at a big school. He was a special team player at Albright. D-3 schools are loaded with all-stars,D-2 is loaded with all-state honorable mentions, D-1 , you need a pedigree far beyond Leb/Lanc all-star.Simlpy put,5'9 170lbs and a 4.8 40 time only gets your foot in the door at the D-3 level if you are smart and have a heart like a lion and are a warrior .
As for your Groff reference,EG had baseball talent and the desire to work at baseball like no one I've seen before locally. This is strictly rumor,but from what I've been told he went Juco because of his poor study habits,not because someone else dropped the ball.
#11 Feb 10, 2010
Didn't Dresch play D2. He went to Albright which is a D3 school. And that fact that you said he could play at Appalachian State makes you certifiably insane. People like you are the problem with athletics at NL. You think you are better than you really are. Beidler had the football program at a very successful point. Above .500 competing for a playoff spot every year is what Northern Lebanon is. A district championship team it is not.
#12 Feb 10, 2010
Dresch Didn't Play D2
#13 Feb 10, 2010
Mr. Wall....good luck. Remember the old saying, "keep your friends close and your ENEMIES closer". Beidler was under the belief he had the backing of the school board(letter of appreciation from Wolfe during the season) & the backing of the "super" intendent Bell, by bringing his kid on as a asst. among other acts of kindness Beidler did toward Bell. In the end, however, its the EGO's that reign and they(the "backstabbing Board and lil'hitler Bell) got what they wanted. Welcome Mr. Wall...my best advice, get in, get the job done on the back of Beidler and GET OUT to a better job. Beidler foolishly wanted to coach the VIKINGS for life I hope Wall does not for his career sake.
#14 Feb 10, 2010
FYI...Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 lbs.
HIGH SCHOOL AND PERSONAL DATA: One of the top two-sport stars in the California prep ranks at Norco (Calif.) High School...broke the California High School career rushing record by more than 1,000 yards while earning a reputation as one of the top running back prospects in the country...finished his high school career with 9,662 yards, which ranked as the best all-time mark in California and the third best career mark in the nation...rushed for 3,233 yards and scored 39 touchdowns as a senior while leading Norco to the Division V Southern Section championship...named Gatorade's High School Player of the Year...also earned prep All-America honors by PrepStar, SuperPrep, EA Sports and Parade Magazine...named Mr. Football 2005 as the state's player of the year by Cal-Hi Sports...was ranked as the 26th-best running back in the country and No. 27 recruit in California by SuperPrep.com ...rated the seventh-best fullback in the country by Rivals.com ...added first team all-state, all-CIF Southern Section, CIF Southern Section Player of the Year, CIF Division V Player of the Year, Los Angeles Times Player of the Year and conference player and athlete of the year honors as a senior...batted .549 as a junior and earned all-state, all-CIF Southern Section, all-league and all-county accolades...included among the Top 50 high school prospects in the nation by Baseball America...also earned three letters in basketball...member of the California Scholastic Federation...majoring in management, science and engineering.
Mike Hart 5'9" 200lbs
Hart attended Onondaga Central High School, where he was a three-time Class D and C Player of the Year selection, leading the team to three state titles in 2001-03. He was named first-team All-State as a senior, junior and sophomore and added first-team All-Division and Co-Player of the Year for Central New York as a junior. Hart was a first-team All-Division and All-Central New York choice as a freshman and sophomore.
Rated the nation's sixth-best back by Tom Lemming's Prep Football Report and listed as the top player in New York and the 12th-best running back in the country by Super Prep. He was rated the second-best prospect in New York, and sixth-best all-purpose back in the nation by Rivals100.com . He also received a four-star prospect rating from MaxEmfingerRecruiting.com .
The tailback holds the national high school records for touchdowns in a career (204), most consecutive 100-yard rushing games (47), career 100-yard rushing games (47) and career points (1,246), as he rushed for 11,232 yards on 935 carries in his prep career. He tallied 3,489 yards and 58 touchdowns on 239 carries and 67 total touchdowns as a senior.
Hart scored a state-record 61 touchdowns as a junior along with 2,846 rushing yards on 223 carries (12.8 yards per carry). He rushed for 3,341 yards and 51 touchdowns as a sophomore and 1,314 yards and 26 touchdowns on 119 carries -- 11 yards per carry -- as a freshman. He also averaged 10 points and five steals for the varsity basketball team.
you sir are out of your mind...
#15 Feb 10, 2010
Albright is a D-3 program, and TD is no longer on the team there.
Statements comparing Hart and Gerhart to TD are ridiculous. I'd be willing to be that Dresch would find them equally crazy. Hart is bouncing around in the NFL and Gerhart just finished second in the Heisman race.
I played on at a bad 1-AA program, and to be brutally honest, Dresch wouldn't have seen the field except on special teams.
I don't mean to bach EG in any way, he is a phenominal baseball player. He has dominated at every level. I think that he can play at the pro level, and I really wouldn't be surprised to see him make a major league roster one day. But I don't think his grades were even average and that forced him to go to junior college.
The last person to come out of NL with major D-1 ability was Justin Dresch. Before him, it was Nate Spatz. It just doesn't happen often at NL.
#16 Feb 10, 2010
Dresch played one year of D3 football. Who cares anyway. The point is Bell will hop right off this guys bandwagon as soon as the program goes south. I garuntee you, if this year the team doesnt go over .500 everyone will be crying for even another coach. Bell is a joke. Snyder is a joke. Keaton is even a bigger joke. The school board is a group of idiots put in charge of firing good honost people because they think they know what they are doing. It will seriously make me sick to have to shake Bells hand at graduation. Here's an idea...How about the board makes a list of ideas about why this guy is god,how about..let's say 30 ideas. Participating in NL Football for four five years, I am comfortable enough to say, Bell should have no say in the program. But wait, he did go to what, like 3 games?
#17 Feb 10, 2010
Good luck Mr. Wall. I am so happy they took in some new blood. I think this was a good move. If Fischl would have been back it would have been death for NL. I hope the team can get on a new track and do well. As far as all the talk about T.D. lets let the young man out of this. I know all of his family that went to NL and played with them. They are all good athletes and all had heart and gave their best on the field.They are a respectable family and to compare and critique is not just.
Good luck Vikings and remember- it is only H.S. football.
#18 Feb 10, 2010
Why is no one appauled by;
1st They moved the meeting up so there was no resistance and Bell can get his own way again.I was planning on attending and asking the below ?
I see no where in the article how much this position is going to pay and where was this money coming from?? This is a total BS position & totally unnecessary when everyting is so tight dollar wise!
This money for this position should be coming out of Bell's pocket since he is the idiot that made all this ridiculous crap happen. No plan at all, just fire someone when they don't bow down and kiss you lieing rotten behind! Unbelievable !
How has this story not got any national attention?
I hope all of NL is happy!! We will just raise taxes to trade in what looks like a very similar coach with a similar record and similar offense too please 3 board members and a jack azz of a superintendent? What have we gained? NOTHING We are losing money and a caring person as a coach.
Does anybody care or are we just going to let Bell & board members continue to lie, cheat and steal our pride and school spirit away????
When will taxpayers get enough & teachers stand up to this jerk and the board blow hard cronies??
#19 Feb 10, 2010
Please run. I will vote for you if you can keep all school board members and supervisors away from the coaches. Not 1 of them has a clue about real coaching or how to run a program. 2nd and the toughest since no body has any balls at NL to stand up to Bell and get him the pink slip he deserves.
He should be leaving not any coaches
#20 Feb 10, 2010
is wall out of his mind ? why would anyone want beidlers old job? working for self serving, powerdrunk bell and his pathetic , spineless excuse for a schoolboard? roy u better be a good boy and do what your told or your tenure will be short indeed.
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