North looks rundown

North looks rundown

There are 104 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Nov 22, 2008, titled North looks rundown. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

North Torrance quarterback B.J. Denker watches from the sideline late in a 48-37 first-round CIF playoff loss to Morro Bay.

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Sam

San Pedro, CA

#1 Nov 22, 2008
This shows how weak the Pioneer League is. When a 6-4, fourth place team from another legue can go on to totally manhandle North like that, it shows the Pioneer League does not even belong in the playoffs.
SOuthbay

Ventura, CA

#2 Nov 22, 2008
Sam wrote:
This shows how weak the Pioneer League is. When a 6-4, fourth place team from another legue can go on to totally manhandle North like that, it shows the Pioneer League does not even belong in the playoffs.
Than does that mean the bay league should not be in the playoffs as well. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the bay league not do well against the pioneer league? El Segundo dominated there #6 seed opponent.
fred

Long Beach, CA

#3 Nov 22, 2008
Well, well ,well Saxon nation. Your record finally caught up with El Segundo's. I guess the only problem is that while E.S. is riding a winning streak, North is riding a losing streak though. Not necessarily a huge problem, unless that streak continues in to week 11. Where's that dude that's been popping off now? By the way, the entire Saxon roster will be at the gate at El Segundo next Friday night. Really. Since you won't really be having anything to do then, why don't all you little Saxons come watch the only Pioneer league representative play St. Joseph's. P.S. Nice defense there.
Need More Somoans

North Hollywood, CA

#4 Nov 22, 2008
I went to the North Game last night against Morro. Morro was just too big and strong for North last night. North's lack of strength and size finally caught up to them. This year the Pioneer league for one reason or another was much stronger than the Bay League as evidenced by preseason inter-league play where Pioneer League beat more Bay League teams than Bay League teams beat Pioneer. so there is your answer. Back to North and El Segundo. El Segundo has the best coaches in the South Bay bar none. El Segundo only has about 1,100 students and zero true athletes but the the coaching staff seems to make the best with what players they are dealt with. This is a very creative offensive and defensive coaching staff and El Segundo plays aggressive football and attacks on both sides of the ball. North on the other hand also has a pretty good head coach and he finds ways to win. North had only one true athlete on their squad who we all know is BJ Denker. Without Denker, North would have been 2-8. Denker should go D-1 easily and eventually he will. Outside of Denker, North had no true athletes and his team was propelled to a 9-2 season on the shoulders of one young man...Denker. Denker is the "real deal" and gets better ever year and Denker is by far the best QB talent the South Bay has seen in 10 years and much better than any other QB in the South Bay. Good luck to Denker in his sports career as one day we will most likely be watching him on our television sets on Saturdays and I hope that we will.
SOuthbay

Ventura, CA

#5 Nov 22, 2008
Need More Somoans wrote:
I went to the North Game last night against Morro. Morro was just too big and strong for North last night. North's lack of strength and size finally caught up to them. This year the Pioneer league for one reason or another was much stronger than the Bay League as evidenced by preseason inter-league play where Pioneer League beat more Bay League teams than Bay League teams beat Pioneer. so there is your answer. Back to North and El Segundo. El Segundo has the best coaches in the South Bay bar none. El Segundo only has about 1,100 students and zero true athletes but the the coaching staff seems to make the best with what players they are dealt with. This is a very creative offensive and defensive coaching staff and El Segundo plays aggressive football and attacks on both sides of the ball. North on the other hand also has a pretty good head coach and he finds ways to win. North had only one true athlete on their squad who we all know is BJ Denker. Without Denker, North would have been 2-8. Denker should go D-1 easily and eventually he will. Outside of Denker, North had no true athletes and his team was propelled to a 9-2 season on the shoulders of one young man...Denker. Denker is the "real deal" and gets better ever year and Denker is by far the best QB talent the South Bay has seen in 10 years and much better than any other QB in the South Bay. Good luck to Denker in his sports career as one day we will most likely be watching him on our television sets on Saturdays and I hope that we will.
Agree with most with the excpetion of the athlete comment. ES has a couple and I am sure there is at least one who will play at the next level and more that could play D-3.
Dear Fred

United States

#6 Nov 22, 2008
Hey Fred, just curious...who won the game between North Torrance and El Segundo?
SOuthbay

Ventura, CA

#7 Nov 22, 2008
Dear Fred wrote:
Hey Fred, just curious...who won the game between North Torrance and El Segundo?
Hey SAXon- how does it feel to be overated and out?
Dear SOuthbaby

United States

#8 Nov 22, 2008
SOuthbay wrote:
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Hey SAXon- how does it feel to be overated and out?
Feels a little better than one of the 9 teams that lost to this overrated team.
ex-player

Bellflower, CA

#9 Nov 22, 2008
Wow, North goes 9-0, but then when met by two REAL teams, they go 0-2 when it really matters. Way to man-up Saxons.
Need New Somoans

North Hollywood, CA

#10 Nov 22, 2008
"SOuthbay" - You are correct, I made a broad statement which wasn't fair. There are some kids who can play at ES. Sorry about that as they do put out some good athletes and some of those players should play some college ball.
Pioneer Supporter

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Nov 22, 2008
Sam wrote:
This shows how weak the Pioneer League is. When a 6-4, fourth place team from another legue can go on to totally manhandle North like that, it shows the Pioneer League does not even belong in the playoffs.
By your location you're either a PV supporter or a Peninsula supporter. How did they do against the third place Pioneer League team? South worked both PVP teams over pretty good. North's lack of size caught up with them the last two weeks. Also if you actually knew anything you would know that those teams from the Los Padres league are plenty tough. Lastly, in head to head competition this year it was Pioneer 6 wins, Bay League 2. Do your homework before you pop off and sound like a fool.
Need More Somoans

North Hollywood, CA

#12 Nov 22, 2008
"SOuthbay" - My mistake and I spoke in broad terms. You are correct as ES does have some good athletes and some should play some college ball and I hope that some of the players do. Sorry about that negative statement which I made.
Fan

United States

#13 Nov 22, 2008
I saw North Torrance play a couple of times this year. I've seen at least three Pop Warner teams with more size this year. I understand there are a few people upset because this tiny, overrated team may have beat them but it is pretty impressive that North Torrance had the success they had. You can't coach size. You can't coach speed. You can't coach heart. North had this impressive record with little speed, NO size, and huge heart.
Pioneer Supporter

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Nov 22, 2008
Need More Somoans wrote:
"SOuthbay" - My mistake and I spoke in broad terms. You are correct as ES does have some good athletes and some should play some college ball and I hope that some of the players do. Sorry about that negative statement which I made.
I like this guys name....seriously who couldn't use a few more Samoans on their team. Heck I'd take a few Tongans too.
SB Fan

Burbank, CA

#15 Nov 22, 2008
Samoans, good job clarifying your remard on ES athletes. The Junior quarterback plays football left handed and baseball right handed, starting multiple years in both sports. That alone is pretty special. The RB is over 1,000 yards rushing with 12 TD's and averages almost 12 tackles a game, in on every play as one of the best two way players around. Those two alone demonstrate the athleticism of the team, not to mention two wideouts who have been among the area leaders in receptions and yards since their sophomore seasons. Several of these seniors will play at the next level, maybe not all or even any D1, but they have athletes....
Pioneer Supporter

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Nov 22, 2008
Fan wrote:
I saw North Torrance play a couple of times this year. I've seen at least three Pop Warner teams with more size this year. I understand there are a few people upset because this tiny, overrated team may have beat them but it is pretty impressive that North Torrance had the success they had. You can't coach size. You can't coach speed. You can't coach heart. North had this impressive record with little speed, NO size, and huge heart.
I am going to disagree with you on one point. I think a you can coach heart. A good coach can inspire his players to dig deep and go above and beyond their abilities.
Need More Somoans

North Hollywood, CA

#17 Nov 22, 2008
"SB Fan" - You are correct, ES has a talented QB in the making and should be the star of the Pioneer next year and may have been overlooked as the QB star of the Pioneer because the Pioneer had BJ Denker but next year ES's left hander will be heavily recruited no doubt. They will be hard to beat with him at the helm and with ES's good offensive coaching scheme and short passing game they are the team to keep an eye on. The RB did an honorable job as well running the ball and he is also a good LB. In fact, he is a very good LB and had to go both ways and did a good job at it meaning he really stepped up for the team. ES does have two excellent receivers as you say who are not afraid to catch the ball over the middle and are willing to take "the hit" and hang on to the ball and they happen to be very good blockers as well and they run routes perfectly and surely will be missed by the ES coaching staff and underclassmen next year in the ES's program. Thanks for clarifying because you make some really good points.
disagree

United States

#18 Nov 22, 2008
Pioneer Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>I am going to disagree with you on one point. I think a you can coach heart. A good coach can inspire his players to dig deep and go above and beyond their abilities.
A good coache will get the most out of his players but HEART is something that comes from within. You can't teach it, buy it, or trade for it. You either have heart or you don't.
Cheerleader Mom

Downey, CA

#19 Nov 22, 2008
I am so proud of our boys, coaches and cheerleaders.
Our school has spirit to the end. Looking forward to wrestling and softball this year!
WE ARE NORTH HIGH!
fred

Long Beach, CA

#20 Nov 22, 2008
Dear Fred wrote:
Hey Fred, just curious...who won the game between North Torrance and El Segundo?
North won. And where will North be this week - Mammoth, Big Bear or Disneyland?

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