Judaism

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For a block or two in every direction from Arbell Matthews' home, 50 or so African-Americans could be heard belting out the Shema, an ancient Hebrew prayer, gospel-style. They had spent a year and a half ...

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Don Schenk

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Jan 26, 2008
 
I'm curious about two things:
1.) When they were re-baptised as Jews, was it by dunking (as the article implies) or by "living", or flowing, water (see John 4:10-11)? First-century mikvahs had two pools, one for the person being ritually cleansed to stand in and another which was a cistern that held rainwater, not well water (because well water wasn't "living")--during the ritual cleansing, rainwater was released unto the person being cleansed.
That "baptisms" involved flowing water can be seen in Mark 7:4, in which cups and so on are "baptised", and Luke 11:38, which speaks of Jews "baptising" themselves (pouring water over their hands) before dinner. The bronze "seas" at the Temple held water which was poured over the hands and feet of the priests before they started their rites.
In the Archaeological argument over whether or not the fortress at Masada held observant Jews, the question is whether or not the baths there were "mikvahs" (with cistern holding tanks) or just plain baths (without them).
2.) Why is this news--because it's so rare? Protestant ministers convert to Catholicism, and some of them are black too.(See "Pastor and Flock Convert to Catholicism" from 2001:)
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apo...
There's even a "Coming Home Network" to assist curious ministers:
http:www.chnetwork.org/
In the US in 2007 three Episcopalian bishops and the president of the Evangelical Theological Society converted to Catholicism--and across the pond, former Prime Minister Blair did so too.(It was only the last conversion that made the news.)

Do I think the media are biased? Did you notice that in today's (1/26/2008) Mornign Call the news that yet another local teacher was accused of child molesting was buried in the police blotter, rather than plastered accross the front page?(And yes, in 2004 the US Departmetn of Education estimated that the sexual abuse problem is "is at least 100 times" greater in the public schools than in the Catholic Church, but that doesn't fit the media's agenda.)
Barbara

Boyertown, PA

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Jan 26, 2008
 
Don Schenk wrote:
I'm curious about two things:
1.) When they were re-baptised as Jews,....
Jews aren't baptised.
Don Schenk

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Jan 28, 2008
 
Barbara wrote:
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Jews aren't baptised.
In the Greek root of the word "baptism" they are; "baptism" is the word that the New Testament used to describe everthing from the ritual baths in mikvahs to the ritual pouring of water over the hands before meals.(And ask an Orthodox Jew what happens when a Gentile takes the initiation mikvah.)

"Synagogue" also comes from a Greek root, meaning to come together to learn. That doesn't mean that Jews don't meet in synagogues.
Don Schenk

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Jan 28, 2008
 
Don Schenk wrote:
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In the Greek root of the word "baptism" they are; "baptism" is the word that the New Testament used to describe everthing from the ritual baths in mikvahs to the ritual pouring of water over the hands before meals.(And ask an Orthodox Jew what happens when a Gentile takes the initiation mikvah.)
"Synagogue" also comes from a Greek root, meaning to come together to learn. That doesn't mean that Jews don't meet in synagogues.
Huh? The computer considers "Jew" a swear word?
Don Schenk

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Jan 28, 2008
 
The word that the computer is blanking out is the singular form of "Jews".

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