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[Hmm]

Alpha1 wrote:

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No thank you...it's none of your business. Much higher than yours, no doubt. Except mine are real.

That remains to be seen.

[Alpha1]

Hmm wrote:

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Would that include being on a MADD advisory board?

Is this another one of you stupid conspiracy theories?

Someone is on the MADD advisory board. They give advice. So what does that have to do with the cost of beans?

I can't WAIT to read what you say! I'm ready for a laugh.

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Alpha1 wrote:

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Is this another one of you stupid conspiracy theories?
Someone is on the MADD advisory board. They give advice. So what does that have to do with the cost of beans?
I can't WAIT to read what you say! I'm ready for a laugh.

Just wondering if you might be in your Mr. Hyde persona tonight instead of Dr. Jeckyll.

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Alpha1 wrote:

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Wow, we did those things in elementary school! GREAT education you had there buddy! Bwaahahahaha! What century are you from?
I don't know why you would think all high school kids are complete morons. They are far from that.
Some high school students do bioinformatics research, DNA sequencing, bioscience research, computer science and development.
Eighteen-year-old Philip Streich developed a method for untangling carbon nanotubes may well pave the way to the creation of a space elevator.
Daniel Asturius’s geothermal energy generator could produce three times as much power as a nuclear plant.
Samantha Hopkins? After she built her own log cabin at the age of nine, she went on to design a lunar chamber that can grow food without soil, self-heal punctures, and shrink to the size of a backpack for easy portability.
I'm sure your kids are far below the genius scale with parents like you.

Sorry if I insulted some of those in your peer/age group.

Keep admiring them and you just might grow up fine.

[Alpha1]

Hmm wrote:

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That remains to be seen.

Really, I don't think you're stupid...mislead from your nicotine addiction is more the case.

I wish for your sake you could quit. I know it's hard. It's not much different than a junkie doing heroin.

[jimmy agler]

bearcat8290 wrote:

These people are freaks. Nearly 60% of all Ohio voters want this ban and approved such a ban in 2006. I would say nearly 95% of ALL establishments in Ohio, now comply with this ban. Yet these few fringe wack jobs, find 100 signatures wrong and whale away with the claims is unbelieveable.

funny,,100 is fewer than they have proved at acorn and look how much we hear about them

[Alpha1]

Hmm wrote:

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Just wondering if you might be in your Mr. Hyde persona tonight instead of Dr. Jeckyll.

LOL! Could be!

[Alpha1]

I meant misled not mislead. I must be transforming back to my Dr. Jekyll persona. I need sleep.

Goodnight.

[ichoosefreedom]

Cincy Steve wrote:

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Oh, I agree..
When it comes to 'ballot initiatives' I don't agree with the practice of paying signature gatherers, period.....

Steve-did you know 93.8% of the 2nd supplement of signatures were PAID FOR? How's THAT for "grassroots"? Must have gone to FELONS-R-US.

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Alpha1 wrote:

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Really, I don't think you're stupid...mislead from your nicotine addiction is more the case.
I wish for your sake you could quit. I know it's hard. It's not much different than a junkie doing heroin.

It is interesting that you makes these kinds of assumptions.

I don't think that follows the precepts of the scientific method, unless this method has also been outdated recently.

[ichoosefreedom]

jimmy agler wrote:

<quoted text>funny,,100 is fewer than they have proved at acorn and look how much we hear about them

Try a 5,617 signatures "typo"
3,470 signatures not give to Judge Cain when he ordered them
3,432 signatures gathered by FELONS
29,225 signatures that should have been invalidated for FORM15 late or non-filings

How about the thousands of signatures by the people from other states who gave their address as the Extended Stay Motel in Springdale? That's fraud.

A 100? There were probably that many signatures from just one felon convicted of gross sexual imposition.

[Rusty]

Alpha1 wrote:

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Really, I don't think you're stupid...mislead from your nicotine addiction is more the case.
I wish for your sake you could quit. I know it's hard. It's not much different than a junkie doing heroin.

I seriously don't want get into the middle of an argument, but I want to point out that in my opinion, you are exactly right in your comparison of cigarettes and heroin. Some people can take it or leave it, and others become a slave to it. My nicotine addiction makes me feel exactly like a junkie, except I have the luxury of being able to lead a successful, fulfilling and happy life. That is, until lung cancer kills me.

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ichoosefreedom wrote:

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Steve-did you know 93.8% of the 2nd supplement of signatures were PAID FOR? How's THAT for "grassroots"? Must have gone to FELONS-R-US.

I personally find that incredibly disturbing, not only because of getting paid, but the felons that were used to obtain these signatures.

When I think of true "grassroots movements", I think of people genuinely interested in the cause who would collect signatures for free because they believed in the cause.

But "grassroots" movements as of late are just a little window dressing created to distract and deceive the public.

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ichoosefreedom wrote:

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Try a 5,617 signatures "typo"
3,470 signatures not give to Judge Cain when he ordered them
3,432 signatures gathered by FELONS
29,225 signatures that should have been invalidated for FORM15 late or non-filings
How about the thousands of signatures by the people from other states who gave their address as the Extended Stay Motel in Springdale? That's fraud.
A 100? There were probably that many signatures from just one felon convicted of gross sexual imposition.

Motels as an address? That's pretty deep...or I should have said cheap...
Well not as cheap as those hourly rate places.

Were the lodgings provided also for these people by the smokefree organization that hired them to collect the signatures? Surely they could not have paid the motel fees based on gathering signatures without some front money being provided by the smokefree organization.

[PreachingToTheGa rbage]

Doesnt matter what Alpo1 thinks about smokers or the effect it has on the smokers. Fraud is Fraud. I dont care who commited the fraud. If they are willing to stoop that low to get there agenda passed. What makes you think the rest of the research they support is admissible,or legitimate . We could call this the Santa Clause effect for the FREAKE Non Smokers. They want something so bad they believe. However we all know there is no Santa Clause.

[Cantiloper]

The anonymous Alpha gets asked about his credentials and says, "No thank you...it's none of your business. Much higher than yours, no doubt. Except mine are real."

No wonder he cites kids' school projects as his research base! Heh... I think I'll sign back on here as... hmm.... Beta? Gamma? And then I'll tell everyone I've got SooperDooper Kredentials which are MUCH higher than ANYONE's in the whole WORLD!

And they're REEL too!!!

Incredible.

Michael J. McFadden
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"

[just candid]

I see "Michie boy Fadden" is still kicking his dead horse. That poor sucker used a "Vanity Press" to get his pamphlet published. HOW SAD >:~) The good news is the price paid for scrap paper is due to go up soon. With luck "Michie boy" may be able to sell his junk to the junk yard. >:~)

[Sheri]

Alpha1 wrote:

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Isn't funny how a couple of high school scientists have more common sense than you.
You're right...It's priceless! LOL!!!!

Common sense and science are not synonomous. Science is for well-trained professionals. Science fair projects are good for extra credit points in high school biology.

[u cannot own me]

Alpha1 wrote:

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Isn't funny how a couple of high school scientists have more common sense than you.
You're right...It's priceless! LOL!!!!

Well, fruit flies are such a burning issue..thank goodness, they may have saved the world of fruit flies

[Point proven]

Hmm wrote:

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And you are what?
Credentials, please.

Not surprised you're from TN. Hicks love to smoke. You're helping to prove several posts back where the guy said greasy, backward, lowlifes are usually the smokers. He was dead on.