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[TruthBeTold]

Sheri wrote:

Here's a gem from anti-smoker, Truth Be Told who claims to have a doctorate, "na na na na boo boo."

Where are you getting that from? I never said that at all.

By the way...have you decided to go down this path again?
I am more than happy to go there with you, but I just want you to remember who initiated!

Let me know sheri!

[TruthBeTold]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> Good people living in Ohio live by, and obey laws of the land.

Linda obviously is not in this category!

[Sheri]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Ok so nationwide in each state uniformly.
My point was to say, the bans are favorable to the majority of people in this country as well as other nations.
Cocaine was once a legal product that was made illegal across the nation, even though it may have been incorrectly classified as a narcotic rather than a stimulant, it still was the victim of federal prohibition based on societal issues.
As far as using the civil war as a sort of fear tactic, well its really a stretch to gain support.
In fact, the civil war was a result of 11 states that decided they were NOT going to follow the national rule. Anarchism was and is NEVER tolerated in a civil society, and as a result the confederacy was squashed like a bug!
Civil unrest will not be tolerated, and smoking is a form of that unrest that is being squashed out.
The pendulum ALWAYS swings back, and smokers have dominated the "control" for way to long. You will see (within your lifetime) national reform to remove smoking from confined public places or places open to the public, as well as from exposing children to the smoke.
Think that won't happen...then I suggest looking at the history of this country!

Nevertheless, states rights trumps as the reason Hillary Clinton and any other nanny politicians back away from a national smoking ban. States rights was a hard lesson to learn via the Civil War, no matter how long ago that was. It would be a hard lesson to relearn today.

[D-RM]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Nope..I dont do petitions, or protesting, or sign carrying.
Just a normal person who has their own opinion!

No, you just want the kid,s to do it for you.:p

[Sheri]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Where are you getting that from? I never said that at all.
By the way...have you decided to go down this path again?
I am more than happy to go there with you, but I just want you to remember who initiated!
Let me know sheri!

When I asked what your education and profession is, what answer did you give? Do you consider the response you gave and that I quoted to be the path that we should take?

[D-RM]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> I don't think

Finally, An honest comment. But we already knew that.

[u cannot own me]

Sheri wrote:

<quoted text>
Did you notice the irony of the SD case where ACS tried to block the smoking ban from getting on the ballot? The ACS claimed that the signatures were invalid and proper procedure was not followed. Thankfully, the judge in this case was not fooled. Wonder if the Ohio case will get publicity in SD?

Thanks for reminding me, its hilarious when making sure of the# of signatures suits their purpose


American Cancer Society allowed to join smoking ban lawsuit
Jump to full article: Sioux Falls (SD) Argus-Leader, 2009-10-06
Author: Staff Reports * Argus Leader

Intro:

The American Cancer Society Tuesday was allowed to become a party in the lawsuit questioning whether opponents of South Dakota's smoking ban got enough valid petition signatures to refer the issue to voters.

That will allow the ACS to make the case that the smoking ban passed by the Legislature this year but not yet implemented is not subject to review by voters.
http://www.tobacco.org/news/290837.html

[u cannot own me]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> So one could say, you're a smelly smoking spokesperson for stinken smokers.

just a human being who smokes, now do you

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Linda is not a very nice person at all

Actually I'm a very nice person just don't try to walk on me, you be you and i'll be me and we will get along famously

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Linda obviously is not in this category!

Ah, and how would you know, you appear to approve of a product of fraud, do you?

[TruthBeTold]

Sheri wrote:

<quoted text>
When I asked what your education and profession is, what answer did you give?

So you have been doing this shit for so long you cannot even remember who you talk to, what you say, or where you even are?

Whatever....freedom of speech, freedom of awareness, freedom to be selective...its all your choice!

Freedom of smoking in public is not though.

;o)

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text>Actually I'm a very nice person just don't try to walk on me, you be you and i'll be me and we will get along famously

Hmmmm...I dont remember anyone calling you an azz or prick!
Even though I do not believe it was directed at me, maybe I read it out of context?

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text>Ah, and how would you know, you appear to approve of a product of fraud, do you?

Product of fraud...assuming you mean the majority of Ohio voters overwhelmingly voting for smoking bans, I would again say...the ends certainly justifies the means. I also think those responsible should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The masses have spoken in O..h...io!

[u cannot own me]

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Hmmmm...I dont remember anyone calling you an azz or prick!
Even though I do not believe it was directed at me, maybe I read it out of context?

I called you one though LOL Wanna see it again

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text> just a human being who smokes, now do you

If you ever protested, signed a petition, carried a sign, or attended an event about smoking, then you go beyond being a simple "human being that smokes" (not good or bad, just goes beyond).

[TruthBeTold]

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text> I called you one though LOL Wanna see it again

Well I guess you are showing your true colors, and again I say...you are obviously not a very nice individual!

I guess we could expect nothing less!

[Jed Hill]

Sheri wrote:

<quoted text>
When I asked what your education and profession is, what answer did you give? Do you consider the response you gave and that I quoted to be the path that we should take?

I have an M.D. from Harvard. I am board certified in cardiothoracic medicine and trauma surgery. I have been awarded citations from seven different medical boards in New England; and I am never, ever sick at sea.

[Sheri]

Jed Hill wrote:

<quoted text>
I have an M.D. from Harvard. I am board certified in cardiothoracic medicine and trauma surgery. I have been awarded citations from seven different medical boards in New England; and I am never, ever sick at sea.

I didn't ask, and I'm not interested.

[Jed Hill]

Sheri wrote:

<quoted text>
I didn't ask, and I'm not interested.

So I ask you, when someone goes into that chapel and they fall on their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry, or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death, or that their mother doesn't suffer acute neural trauma from postoperative shock, who do you think they're praying to? Now, you go ahead and read your Bible, Dennis, and you go to your church and with any luck you might win the annual raffle. But if you're looking for God, he was in operating room number two on November 17th, and he doesn't like to be second guessed.

[Tim T]

So if people are knowningly violating the rules, why dont the bar staff ask them to put out the smokes and if they refuse, kick them out. Sounds easy to me.