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Important: where do the vocies of schizophrenia come from?

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Ralp Peterson

Brampton, Canada

#1 May 16, 2007
Hi,
Thanks for your replies. I have done some studies on how the voices are perceived to be located as coming from inside the head, or from certain objects located externally, and feel that certain areas of the brain are overactive and make these things possible.
It seems that a lot of people who first hear voices coming from external objects or people believe that the t.v. is talking to them or that people are speaking about them. However, when they are later educated that what is happening is because of a brain dysfunction, they start to realize that the sounds that they perceive are coming from inside of their own head. However, SOME people often act rashly in the earlier stages of the illness, when they believe that they are being talked about or threatened by others, and end up harming others and get into serious trouble with the law.
If only they were educated in the early stages of the illness that the voices are coming from inside their head, and if the government were to institute some kind of program whereby everyone (in the general population) were warned about the danger of the illness striking them - we wouldn't have people killing or hurting other people because of misperceptions about where the voices come from.
Sincerely,
RR
dirty whiteboy

Traverse City, MI

#2 Nov 18, 2007
hi ralph, i've "realized" that what is going on in my head is not real for about 15 years now but even knowing that it is still a minute to minute struggle battling the delusions,paranoia and hallucinations and trying not to believe them. even knowing what i know it doesn't make them any less real.

i do agree with you though about increasing the public awareness of mental illness and think it would help both the public and the individual dealing with the illness.
there is a huge stigma associated with people with mental illnesses and anything that could potentially smooth the relations between the two groups would benefit everyone(IMO).

if you have an idea on how to go about this in a fresh way i'd be happy to help you as much as i can.

"STRONG PEOPLE last longer than HARD TIMES"
JBL

Portland, OR

#3 Feb 10, 2008
I agree with dw in that sometimes delusions can't just be rationalized away, particularly when the delusion is based heavily 'in reality' and you don't have others there to constantly inform you that you are not being rational. Rather than educate people from an angle of "one day you might wake up and hear voices which tell you to go off people so in the interest of the public we need to let you know that if in the future you ever hear a voice telling you to go off people, it's not real, it's all in your head... OK children?"--you know ;)-- I'd take a less frightening approach, one that teaches the general public that, for one, schizophrenia does not equate to being a murderer or a psychopath. For another, the basics would have to be taught (e.g., it is not DID). And finally, I'd hope to decrease the fear that people have of getting the illness, perhaps by showing that, as someone else put it, it's not a 'death sentence' and that it's possible to lead a manageable life.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#4 Mar 3, 2008
My 2 adult sons have it, and it's a living hell, not only for them, but for us too. Like right now, my 26yr old is being tormented by the voices and even after 8 years of this, it's still very upsetting to me as his mother. I'm helpless. I'm also angry at a so-called loving god who would allow one family to suffer so much over the past 30 years, long before we even had 2 sons who grew up to have this. It's caused me to question the existence of a god.
From A Schizophrenic

DrÝbak, Norway

#5 Jun 6, 2008
Check out this site?
Crazy world we livin` in or what???
I don`t know what to beleve anymore???
http://youtube.com/watch...
Melissa

Alpharetta, GA

#6 Jun 20, 2008
From A Schizophrenic wrote:
Check out this site?
Crazy world we livin` in or what???
I don`t know what to beleve anymore???
http://youtube.com/watch...
I was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia about a year ago. I hear negative voices and have "delusions". I have noticed that I never get depressed. I haven't been depressed in over a year since it began. It started off depressed, extremely paranoid, off balance, and terrified of people but began to pray a lot and ask Christ for guidance and it works. I stopped taking abilify and symptoms have subsided a lot. I still hear voices but ignore them as the work of the devil. It sounds crazy but I do believe that schizophrenia is a spiritual disease and can be cured by faith. Most psychiatrist including my own would discard this belief as another delusion but I seriously believe that most schizophrenia cases are caused by evil, occult, or demonic forces.
James

Penang, Malaysia

#7 Jun 23, 2008
'Entice, then, with thy voice such of them as thou canst, and bear upon them with all thy horses and all thy men, and be their partner in [all sins relating to] worldly goods and children, and hold out [all manner of] promises to them: and [they will not know that] whatever Satan promises them is but meant to delude the mind.'

Normally, the schizophrenic person feel likes somebody or perhaps many peoples are planning to him/her with many ways, such as by spying etc.
They feel that they been spying at nearly all the places they have been including in the car while driving or sitting with the feeling that somebody from the other cars talk to him/her.
They also feel that some people talk to him/her secretly/whisper in the gatherings.
They also feel that their life been control by somebody and make him/her feel sick.
Cerberus

Winchester, UK

#8 Jun 23, 2008
Melissa wrote:
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I was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia about a year ago. I hear negative voices and have "delusions". I have noticed that I never get depressed. I haven't been depressed in over a year since it began. It started off depressed, extremely paranoid, off balance, and terrified of people but began to pray a lot and ask Christ for guidance and it works. I stopped taking abilify and symptoms have subsided a lot. I still hear voices but ignore them as the work of the devil. It sounds crazy but I do believe that schizophrenia is a spiritual disease and can be cured by faith. Most psychiatrist including my own would discard this belief as another delusion but I seriously believe that most schizophrenia cases are caused by evil, occult, or demonic forces.
I would suggest that you pay much closer attention to your psychiatrist. Schizophrenia is not caused by evil, occult or demonic forces. Beleive this and you would have taken a big step to recovery.
Okg

Stow, OH

#9 Jun 29, 2008
No, it's not caused by the devil, but since super capitalism forces everybody to be a high pressure salesperson to get ahead in life, it causes major problems in the way schizophrenics function. Like the I'm either happy like an 11 year old or crazy mood swings. Vicious mood swings for some people that are like turrets syndrome. Society is constantly speeding up your brain which feels like satanism. Me, me, me syndrome. But if spirituality is helping you, I'm glad for you.
Cerberus

Winchester, UK

#10 Jun 30, 2008
Okg

"turrets syndrome"...Huh???
"Society constantly speeding up your brain....." Huhhh???
WTF ???
Okg

Stow, OH

#11 Jun 30, 2008
Cerberus, I'm not sure what you're not understanding. Turrets syndrome is when you have an outburst you can't control. Like a mini seizure or verbally or physically attacking hallucinations/voices in your head.

Society constantly speeding up your brain...

Haven't you had a job where you're constantly expected to speed things up instead of the boss keeping everything paced? It's a big problem in capitalism. They keep too few people at a job, and expect the employees to do more work than they're realistically getting paid to do, saving the company money which is abusive to people who need the job to pay bills. Add that to the turrets syndrome like symptoms, and you have a recipe for disaster in people with severe mental illnesses.
nikinice

Australia

#12 Aug 10, 2008
Hi,
Thanks for your replies. I have done some studies on how the voices are perceived to be located as coming from inside the head, or from certain objects located externally, and feel that certain areas of the brain are overactive and make these things possible.
It seems that a lot of people who first hear voices coming from external objects or people believe that the t.v. is talking to them or that people are speaking about them. However, when they are later educated that what is happening is because of a brain dysfunction, they start to realize that the sounds that they perceive are coming from inside of their own head. However, SOME people often act rashly in the earlier stages of the illness, when they believe that they are being talked about or threatened by others, and end up harming others and get into serious trouble with the law.
?????????? are you telling me when i think the radio or tv is talking about me its voices in me head?????????? or me having delusions and interperating the words to something else?????????? this is all new to me!!!
JJJ

Lakeland, FL

#13 Jul 30, 2009
Cerberus you need to stfu because i am schizophrenic and agree 100% with Melissa, and the F'ing reason is because i was demonic possessed for years and actually had an exorcizm preformed on me(not a delusion) this was before i was diagnosed schizophrenic and after( literlly days) i started hearing voices in my head and am now medicated and on SSI because the disease makes it impossible for me to work so before you go and reply to others that ARE DEALING WITH THE DISEASE you need to get more information.
Greg

Gainesville, VA

#14 Aug 13, 2009
Hi, i hear voices and although it started off to be a terrifying experience, i have gorwn to love the voice in my head very much and im a productive member of society now. It is a good person, I was hoping I could find a social outlet for the person because although we love eachother the voice still gets lonely. If anyone knows about a forum which other people or voices could speak to mine I would greatly appreciate the information. Thank you

Since: Jul 09

Hampton, VA

#15 Aug 20, 2009
I spent about 5 months at Easter State in Williamsburg VA a few years ago after a suicide attempt. I had depression.

It was a fascinating place and I really enjoyed my stay there. I saw a side of life that very few people get to see and the group therapy was fun.

Back on topic: I have a theory about schizophrenia.
It might be related to dreaming while not sleeping. Maybe there is a connection there, some way. Something in the brain plays a trick on some people who are actually dreaming while awake.

I have had many dreams that were actually more believable than life, while asleep. Why not when awake?

With all due respect.
Sasha

Plano, TX

#16 Nov 5, 2010
I dont have shitzophrenia but my mom does and she hears voices in her head and she does all kinds of weird stuff that she says "gets rid" of them but again they come back i dont understand she does this everyday can anyone help me?
In need of help

Telford, PA

#17 Jan 29, 2011
I strongly agree. The goverment needs to seriously do something to help this. My husband has schizophrenia and it is ripping everything apart. He doesn't believe he has this, times he has. He won't take his medicane and due to HIS RIGHTS we can't do anything about it. He has already beat his Mom? I believe someone with an illness as bad as this one CAN NOT MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES, I MEAN I HAFT TO STAY AROUND HIM 24/7, TELL HIM WHEN TO EAT, AND EVEN TO BATHE??
**BUT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT BE FORCED TO TAKE HIS MEDICANE OR THE RIGHT TO NOT BE HOSPITALIZED TO GET HELP???

**I THINK THEY DON'T CARE IF MURDERS AND RAPEST STAY ON THE LOOSE!!
In need of help

Telford, PA

#18 Jan 29, 2011
My husband believes he hears God and the Angels talking to him and wants us to start an occult where we all basicly love all equal and make love to everyone. Does anyone know about them hearing God? I have heard alot of schizophrenia patients hear such. The problem is he wants me to hear this and believe this is THE RIGHT WAY!!! I really NEED HELP!!! OUR FAMILY IS BEING TORN APART WITH THIS????
Hurricane

Eugene, OR

#19 Mar 4, 2011
To: In need of help,

I don't know much about schizophrenia, but it appears that your husbands illness is effecting you in a negative way. I know there are support groups out there for people who have friends and family members who have mental illnesses. Maybe finding a group of peers who can relate to what you're going through will help give you some peace. As for your husband not taking his meds...I don't know what to say. It might be one of those situations where you have to wait until he does something harmful that allows law enforcement to step in and make him seek help. Good luck. I hope you find some resolution.
littlegnostic

Granbury, TX

#20 Feb 3, 2012
Cerberus wrote:
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I would suggest that you pay much closer attention to your psychiatrist. Schizophrenia is not caused by evil, occult or demonic forces. Beleive this and you would have taken a big step to recovery.
Actually I got similar results as her. I threw Freud away, an atheist who admitted to having telepathy and described religion as a huge obstacle to overcome and forget. Freud commited suicide and was a tool of satan.(yes that sounds crazy). This is also somethings similar that happened to many people in the Bible. Schidzophrenia/epilepsy is usually offset by a traumatic event that seemed unforgiveable or the person was having trouble forgiving themselves, which can block the way to salvation. I did the same thing as her. I had a bad prescription drug reaction. The only thing that fixed it was praying for my faith in God and Jesus to be restored, even if I didn't believe in it. Psychiatry has never cured a so called schidzophrenic. Praying for God to fix you helps you clear the negativity and put the Holy Spirit in it's place. I was an atheist, but I got tired of being afraid to be Spiritual because of how I would be percieved. I relized though that my life felt empty and I actually became afraid of death for the first time in the past three years.

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