Collembola/Springtails

Since: Jan 13

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#147 Feb 5, 2013
Hi Shelly! Ugh soo sorry about your cat. I hope she pulls through. This mite is deffinatley the devils spawn! I'm doing ok. The crawls have stopped since Friday (touch wood) I've had a few hiccups here and there. Going to the derm next week, see what she says. Skin is dry as hell! Please keep us updated on you cat and family.

Since: Apr 12

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#148 Feb 5, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
Hi Shelly! Ugh soo sorry about your cat. I hope she pulls through. This mite is deffinatley the devils spawn! I'm doing ok. The crawls have stopped since Friday (touch wood) I've had a few hiccups here and there. Going to the derm next week, see what she says. Skin is dry as hell! Please keep us updated on you cat and family.
Good to hear. The dry skin is going to make you feel Ill for awhile.
My hair is so dry let me know what the derm says on how to fix that.

Since: Jan 13

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#149 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Good to hear. The dry skin is going to make you feel Ill for awhile.
My hair is so dry let me know what the derm says on how to fix that.
Thanks Langoliers. I will let you know what she says. The dry skin sucks. I'm not trying to use lotions or oils, drinking a lot of water though. I told my dad I was using DE, and he said that he used it a few years back when he had an ant issue at his house and he said it worked like a dream!

Since: Apr 12

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#151 Feb 5, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks Langoliers. I will let you know what she says. The dry skin sucks. I'm not trying to use lotions or oils, drinking a lot of water though. I told my dad I was using DE, and he said that he used it a few years back when he had an ant issue at his house and he said it worked like a dream!
We live on a lake out in the woods and have always had a big fly problem.

Not this year! DE took care if those too.

Finding DE is the little silver lining of this horrible experience.
lost

Crystal Lake, IL

#152 Feb 5, 2013
What is the Linden soap that you used Lang? Do you buy it over the counter or is it a script?

I got the perm cream from my dr for two applications a week apart but I'm afraid to use it. Read horror stories on the internet about mites attacking you in places you didn't put the cream on. What do everyone think based on your experiences? Should I try it for the two weeks?

My hair is still crawling and itching. Using peppermint oil, tea trea, cinnamon leaf and clove oil in my shampoo. But nothing is working. Last night was the worse. Got attacked all night. Any suggestions anyone?
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#153 Feb 5, 2013
lost wrote:
What is the Linden soap that you used Lang? Do you buy it over the counter or is it a script?
I got the perm cream from my dr for two applications a week apart but I'm afraid to use it. Read horror stories on the internet about mites attacking you in places you didn't put the cream on. What do everyone think based on your experiences? Should I try it for the two weeks?
My hair is still crawling and itching. Using peppermint oil, tea trea, cinnamon leaf and clove oil in my shampoo. But nothing is working. Last night was the worse. Got attacked all night. Any suggestions anyone?
Lindane has resulted in seizures and deaths and is the most dangerous treatment anyone can do. Langoliers id the last person you want to take advice from because he belongs in a psychiatric institution.

http://www.calpoison.org/hcp/2010/callusvol8n...

http://specialchildren.about.com/od/medicalis...

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/m...

Also the DE he recommends, which is silica, causes long term severe health problems. This guy is nothing but trouble. He is also a habitual liar.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

Since: Apr 12

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#154 Feb 5, 2013
lost wrote:
What is the Linden soap that you used Lang? Do you buy it over the counter or is it a script?

I got the perm cream from my dr for two applications a week apart but I'm afraid to use it. Read horror stories on the internet about mites attacking you in places you didn't put the cream on. What do everyone think based on your experiences? Should I try it for the two weeks?

My hair is still crawling and itching. Using peppermint oil, tea trea, cinnamon leaf and clove oil in my shampoo. But nothing is working. Last night was the worse. Got attacked all night. Any suggestions anyone?
It's a prescription Medicine.
It's called 1% lindane shampoo.

Since: Jan 13

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#155 Feb 5, 2013
lost wrote:
What is the Linden soap that you used Lang? Do you buy it over the counter or is it a script?
I got the perm cream from my dr for two applications a week apart but I'm afraid to use it. Read horror stories on the internet about mites attacking you in places you didn't put the cream on. What do everyone think based on your experiences? Should I try it for the two weeks?
My hair is still crawling and itching. Using peppermint oil, tea trea, cinnamon leaf and clove oil in my shampoo. But nothing is working. Last night was the worse. Got attacked all night. Any suggestions anyone?
Hi Lost, what helping me is using vinegar when I take a bath. I pour it on my scalp and leave it there till I'm done bathing. Then I wash my hair with demnenox (sp?) shampoo. Dry it off and put sulfur 8 conditioner on my scalp. I have been crawl free only since Friday but even just a little relief is awesome!
What kind of mites do you have? Are the mites on you? Burrowing? The prem is pretty good. I would do it with the iver pills so you can not them out. With out have to do tons of prem. have you tired sleeping with a shower cap on?
Lost

Glen Ellyn, IL

#156 Feb 5, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
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Hi Lost, what helping me is using vinegar when I take a bath. I pour it on my scalp and leave it there till I'm done bathing. Then I wash my hair with demnenox (sp?) shampoo. Dry it off and put sulfur 8 conditioner on my scalp. I have been crawl free only since Friday but even just a little relief is awesome!
What kind of mites do you have? Are the mites on you? Burrowing? The prem is pretty good. I would do it with the iver pills so you can not them out. With out have to do tons of prem. have you tired sleeping with a shower cap on?
Looks like I lost my reply. Have to do again

Did you use reg vinegar or apple cider ?

I tried the swim cap at night but then stopped when I read fungus likes moisture. The swim cap kept hair moist so I don't know if I can still use it

Don't know what kind if mites yet. Sending samples to Purdue university tomorrow. I don't know if I gave burrowing. How can you tell ?

Why not use an exterminator for the house? Are their products not as good as transport or the IGR ?
Aurore

Acworth, GA

#157 Feb 5, 2013
I'm trying to get her internally and her skin where they don't like her so.Not moving to leave bugs-already tried that! Just need cheaper rent lol! I have purchased some Benzarid that I read about. Can be used on furniture,matresses,inside cars and is oderless and non staining. Some have had great luck with it so will let you know how it works.
Shelly wrote:
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Oh no!!:( I'm so sorry you're going through this... We tried leaving ours behind, too, but it didn't work... Even after tossing everything. I hope you have better luck... We were relying on a pest control guy at the time.., hopefully since you are spraying the chemical yourself, you can get a handle on them.... Praying for you, lady...

Since: Jan 13

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#158 Feb 5, 2013
Lost wrote:
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Looks like I lost my reply. Have to do again
Did you use reg vinegar or apple cider ?
I tried the swim cap at night but then stopped when I read fungus likes moisture. The swim cap kept hair moist so I don't know if I can still use it
Don't know what kind if mites yet. Sending samples to Purdue university tomorrow. I don't know if I gave burrowing. How can you tell ?
Why not use an exterminator for the house? Are their products not as good as transport or the IGR ?
I have used with acv or regular vinegar. It can be the cheap stuff. Just be really careful with your eyes, it stings. I would have a wash cloth near by. How about wrapping your hair with a scarf?
Do you have lines or scratch marks made by the devils? Sometimes there near a bite. That great that you will know soon what your dealing with. I read a story where a woman kept getting bit at night, at the docs said she had DP, and she was like umm no I'm getting but she thought it was scabies but come to find out bird mites. So she had to get her house gassed. It's expensive, but she said she's bite free and happy. She had to get just about everything dry cleaned. Poor woman spent a lot of money. At least she's all better!

Since: Jan 13

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#160 Feb 6, 2013
Hey Shelly how's the cat?

Since: Dec 12

Rosedale, NY

#161 Mar 20, 2013
Hey. Did you guys notice that those small hair piece like stuff is everywhere; in the toilet sink, on the tables, and even in the Apple store.. I think tap water carries this kind of parasites. So I would say everyone has it, symptoms depend on people's immune system.
marty

Dearborn, MI

#162 Mar 20, 2013
I have springtails. Pest control identified but didn't think they could help. Sort of thought I was delustional. I found sleeping in a sleeping bag that has the insecticide barrier works. I reall feel I got these because my immunity was low and I got a really bad fungal infections. I think the springtails infested my body to eat the fungus off skin cells. Tractor Supply has great chemicals to kill these presisitant devils. The itch has driven me insane and my car is so infested. I covered my carpet with seven's dust and put it under my bed. All drapes had to go. These things ruin my painting that were canvas. I can't believe how they embedded in the fabric. God help us all this is the worst hell I have ever been thru. Dear God all I have left is my FAITH!

Since: Apr 12

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#163 Mar 21, 2013
marty wrote:
I have springtails. Pest control identified but didn't think they could help. Sort of thought I was delustional. I found sleeping in a sleeping bag that has the insecticide barrier works. I reall feel I got these because my immunity was low and I got a really bad fungal infections. I think the springtails infested my body to eat the fungus off skin cells. Tractor Supply has great chemicals to kill these presisitant devils. The itch has driven me insane and my car is so infested. I covered my carpet with seven's dust and put it under my bed. All drapes had to go. These things ruin my painting that were canvas. I can't believe how they embedded in the fabric. God help us all this is the worst hell I have ever been thru. Dear God all I have left is my FAITH!
Here's a nice picture I took of one I found

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s536/Lang...
FRED

Denver, CO

#164 Mar 21, 2013
marty wrote:
I have springtails. Pest control identified but didn't think they could help. Sort of thought I was delustional. I found sleeping in a sleeping bag that has the insecticide barrier works. I reall feel I got these because my immunity was low and I got a really bad fungal infections. I think the springtails infested my body to eat the fungus off skin cells. Tractor Supply has great chemicals to kill these presisitant devils. The itch has driven me insane and my car is so infested. I covered my carpet with seven's dust and put it under my bed. All drapes had to go. These things ruin my painting that were canvas. I can't believe how they embedded in the fabric. God help us all this is the worst hell I have ever been thru. Dear God all I have left is my FAITH!
Mites are attracted to you if you have a fungus infection like candida. There are some simple remedies for that. You need to treat your fungal infection first.

http://www.naturalnews.com/027184_olive_leaf_...

http://www.taoofherbs.com/articles/116/Ellagi...

the food source for ellagic acid is raspberries. It kills internal fungal growths over time.
Tired

Hollywood, FL

#165 Mar 21, 2013
I found this post in a search,

Not knowing your specific causative agent -- it may or may not be collembola - or may be confounded by other co-infections or co-infestations.

Get your doctor to run an IGE and eosinophil count for a quick screen for parasites. For symptomatic relief and possibly some killing or "knock down" of possible skin parasites - try warm to hot baths with additives. try to do whole body immersions with attention to the scalp. If your tub is of normal size -- either flip the overflow over or duct tape to get a few more inches of water:

add: 2 cups or so of rock salt (buy 40 lbs at feed stores)

baby oil; 1 to 1 and 1/2 scoop of oxy clean or percarbonate; 1/3 cup of borax

you may alternate the oxy clean with biz or an enzyme based bleach (not chlorine or chlorox type) washing clothes with either is a good idea too and always include borax in the wash.

after the bath -- use a lotion that contains dimethicone. Walgreens has an 'after sun' with alo vera that serves as a nice base. Add cedar oil to this -- to make about a 15 to 20%. I use Himalayan Cedar oil - rather than the market cedarside. Himalayan Cedar contains certain terpenes and other components which have killing properties to insects - and arthopods.

I then add a 2nd layer of 25% benzyl benzoate lotion (avoid the eyes).

for the scalp and bit of hair i have now -- i found that compounding essential oils with an olive oil base with Himalayan cedar, orange oil or lemon juice, rosemary, eucalyptus and sulfur (3% if using the liquid vet lime product, 10% if using precipitated flowers of sulfur). I spray this on and rub it into the scalp. I then use a spray benzyl benzoate preparation that you can make or order through vet suppliers.

I had long lusious hair but had to boy cut it to adequately get at the scalp.(Oh buy the way -- none of the usual medicinals - lindane shampoos, eurax and permethrin have any effect on these)

soak in the tub as long as you can and then shower down with dawn using a loofa gently on whole body. follow up with a bit of selsun blue shampoo with menthol on scalp for 2 min and then rinse well. finally add a bit of sulfurized cream rinse (suggest the head and shoulders or generic version as the base).

menthol and lavendar are repellants -- so keep in environment everywhere. observe clean technique throughout house and life style. all of your clothes are washed and unless you can confim that your dryer get to 200 degrees F -- cook in the oven for 20 min or so. use an old tea towel etc. lining a large cookie sheet to place a small stack of clothes -- careful on to allow any portion touch the rack as this will scorch and some items will melt.

so limit yourself to clothes you can wash - bleach would be even better and always use borax (is toxic to most arthopods etc.) and that you can wear out. same applies to bedding -- go to simple sheets -- microfiber is best - and a managable blanket so as to be able to wash and/or cook daily.

it is a sparse way of living -- but remove all upholstered items from your sleeping area and keep bedroom and bath very dry -- use heat blower as needed.

dust your car and bedding area and other areas of your home with roach pruff type boric acid and diatomaceous earth -- include your shoes and find a water type slipper or flip flops to be your house shoes so you can soak these daily in biz and hot water.

windex commercial brand strength -(find at home depot or other) to spray down floors, counters, toilet seats and bathing areas several times a day.

it is hard to live without comforters and soft down pillows -- but go to poly and vinyl covers on all bedding - mattresses and box springs - and remove bed to just the steel frame.

there is so much more to observe to tackle the environmental component of these -- but use common sense and be hopeful that you will be able to return to a normal exisitence in the future.
Tired

Hollywood, FL

#166 Mar 21, 2013
Oops, first post didn't post, I'll do this again.

I found this in a search:

Not knowing your specific causative agent -- it may or may not be collembola - or may be confounded by other co-infections or co-infestations.

Get your doctor to run an IGE and eosinophil count for a quick screen for parasites. For symptomatic relief and possibly some killing or "knock down" of possible skin parasites - try warm to hot baths with additives. try to do whole body immersions with attention to the scalp. If your tub is of normal size -- either flip the overflow over or duct tape to get a few more inches of water:

add: 2 cups or so of rock salt (buy 40 lbs at feed stores)

baby oil; 1 to 1 and 1/2 scoop of oxy clean or percarbonate; 1/3 cup of borax

you may alternate the oxy clean with biz or an enzyme based bleach (not chlorine or chlorox type) washing clothes with either is a good idea too and always include borax in the wash.

after the bath -- use a lotion that contains dimethicone. Walgreens has an 'after sun' with alo vera that serves as a nice base. Add cedar oil to this -- to make about a 15 to 20%. I use Himalayan Cedar oil - rather than the market cedarside. Himalayan Cedar contains certain terpenes and other components which have killing properties to insects - and arthopods.

I then add a 2nd layer of 25% benzyl benzoate lotion (avoid the eyes).

for the scalp and bit of hair i have now -- i found that compounding essential oils with an olive oil base with Himalayan cedar, orange oil or lemon juice, rosemary, eucalyptus and sulfur (3% if using the liquid vet lime product, 10% if using precipitated flowers of sulfur). I spray this on and rub it into the scalp. I then use a spray benzyl benzoate preparation that you can make or order through vet suppliers.

I had long lusious hair but had to boy cut it to adequately get at the scalp.(Oh buy the way -- none of the usual medicinals - lindane shampoos, eurax and permethrin have any effect on these)

soak in the tub as long as you can and then shower down with dawn using a loofa gently on whole body. follow up with a bit of selsun blue shampoo with menthol on scalp for 2 min and then rinse well. finally add a bit of sulfurized cream rinse (suggest the head and shoulders or generic version as the base).

menthol and lavendar are repellants -- so keep in environment everywhere. observe clean technique throughout house and life style. all of your clothes are washed and unless you can confim that your dryer get to 200 degrees F -- cook in the oven for 20 min or so. use an old tea towel etc. lining a large cookie sheet to place a small stack of clothes -- careful on to allow any portion touch the rack as this will scorch and some items will melt.

so limit yourself to clothes you can wash - bleach would be even better and always use borax (is toxic to most arthopods etc.) and that you can wear out. same applies to bedding -- go to simple sheets -- microfiber is best - and a managable blanket so as to be able to wash and/or cook daily.
Tired

Hollywood, FL

#167 Mar 21, 2013
continuing on with previous post,

it is a sparse way of living -- but remove all upholstered items from your sleeping area and keep bedroom and bath very dry -- use heat blower as needed.

dust your car and bedding area and other areas of your home with roach pruff type boric acid and diatomaceous earth -- include your shoes and find a water type slipper or flip flops to be your house shoes so you can soak these daily in biz and hot water.

windex commercial brand strength -(find at home depot or other) to spray down floors, counters, toilet seats and bathing areas several times a day.

it is hard to live without comforters and soft down pillows -- but go to poly and vinyl covers on all bedding - mattresses and box springs - and remove bed to just the steel frame.

there is so much more to observe to tackle the environmental component of these -- but use common sense and be hopeful that you will be able to return to a normal exisitence in the future.

i have been battling this for 4 months and am much better now -- but it took gun shotting many different antibiotics and antiparasitics (most titers of bacteria were unrevealing)- and moving to a dry climate. sunshine is a great purifier too - if you can manage whole body sun bathing time with screens etc.

hang in there and take it a step at a time and good luck on the above. it has really helped me. but i would urge you to try to collect a sample for an entomologist to id - as the medical clinic isn't equipped to do this nor are the usual clinical labs able to id anything outside of the ordinary. also, if you have not been screened for simple parasitosis or ectoparasites -- please do so - as your situation may be more amenable to an actual treatment and cure.

if all of this has been done and you are certain that you have collembola -- then try the above. the white flaking is what has me perplexed -- could be chylletiella -- an animal fur mite that can get into the environment and be tough to rid if not dx. in that case you would need ivermectin and absolute environmental clean up, pesticides and boric acid and DE dusting -- but is curable.

Tired

Hollywood, FL

#168 Mar 21, 2013

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