Feeling Lousy

Bronx, NY

#449 Sep 23, 2013
Steam or iron clothes before putting them on will kill them. I saw a bug when I was streaming my clothing sprayed Lysol on it, it kept moving grabbed the steamer handle died on site.
Feeling Lousy

Bronx, NY

#450 Sep 23, 2013
FRED wrote:
Please be advised;
Any post originating from Hollywood Fla. is VSS or virtual scabies or joe or Arron. I'm referring to the poster who just posted as "torment" The real posters registered name is "Jodyy". She is a bitter person and has been on this forum for over two years. Part of her problem is the central nervous system infections that cause her to act the way she does. The other part is that she is bitter she is still going through this after all this time.
As I've posted. Childhood behavior patterns get amplified when a persons brain is infected because they lose their "presence" or moderating inner voice.
Joe/Aaron has been here longer then 3 years...it's more like 5+ I read old posts, what a jerk! Messed with everyone SKF, Bill, Sam, RK.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#452 Sep 23, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
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Fred's protocol is great.... good herbs.... I like nutramedix, Dr. Cowden seems alright. I'm not sure why he doesn't recommend andrographis or any of the ayurvedic herbs....
It seems relatively easy on first glance... although that wait 15 minutes between this and that is a pain...
I did banderol, samento and cumanda for a while - helped a little, but the house I was living in was basically soaking wet all the time and completely infested with collembola. I'd love to try it again now that I've moved, but Fred has since called me a liar, crazy, that there are no bugs - it's my imagination, what I see isn't real because of some lyme disease symptom... blah blah blah.
I really don't like it when people claim to know what they couldn't possibly know in a million years .... whether I have lyme disease, if collembola can infest human skin, what God thinks, the intention of the founding fathers, etc. I just find it incredibly annoying and makes me not trust that person one tiny bit.
So... sorry Fred... I'm do I different detox to rid myself of whatever is calling the bugs to me. And yes, there are bugs.
Actually the Nutramedix stuff is way overpriced, The Samento itself is a giant scam that is triple priced.

http://www.rain-tree.com/toa-poa-article.htm#...

Samento isn't as effective as high quality cats claw.

They sell their Barberry for $30 an ounce because they put a 30c homeopathy pellet that costs 10cents in a 10 dollar bottle.

I used their Banderol because it was established by Dr. Eva Sapi it's effect. But Banderol made from the Otoba tree has no reference in traditional medicine . It makes knowledgable herbalists shrug their shoulders. I also suggest their quina because they produce it very consistently in quality and Quina isn't something you want going all over the place. It crosses the blood brain barrier in less than 2 minutes so you want something that you know what it will do.

Nutramedix in general is a for profit company. Cowden lives in Panama city and gets his checks in the mail.

http://jarla.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/dissect...

Personally I think Cowden is as phoney as his hair color.



Good luck HG.
collembolachick

Easton, CT

#453 Sep 23, 2013
FRED wrote:
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The RATIONAL explanation is that your environment is full of them and that is the first step of your recovery. Fix that. OR get a magnifier.
Either way the collembola, weather there or not, are a very minor issue compared to the infections they pass.
Hi Fred,

My environment is fine. I have a microscope camera. They are collembola. just looked at another one today.

Again, my house is taken care of between the menthol crystals, the cedarcide the ozone generator and Kleen green.

It has stopped jumping off me because of the enzymes. Still, the lyme is gotten worse since the change of season, and further, since I lost my job, I can no longer afford what I was taking for it. Carnivora was working great.

I have spoken with Dr. Sapi personally and she recommended Cowden technique. She was quite helpful, and understood exactly what is going on. She was also, a bit distant, which is understandable due to the magnitude of how this illness is at the onset. They are collembola. and wormy like things and flourescent green eggs. They used to fly off me before enzymes.

Do you have any idea how much one months supply is of your protocol? Im dealing with a family member and her dog too. Do you have an testimonials besides yourself with it?

Appreciate your time...
FRED

Golden, CO

#454 Sep 23, 2013
Cowden got it wrong.

The infections form a symbiotic relationship and readily exchange DNA information. The Cowden protocol treats in stages and that is it's fatal flaw it has failed for many people including brilliant Lyme researcher and author Connie Strasheim. She will tell you though that it failed because she didn't use protease enzymes but you only need protease enzymes with a synthetic ABX protocol. The reason Connie is still fighting is that the herb concentration wasn't high enough and didn't have enough working components.

I've exchanged emails with Sapi, she got lucky and caught her Lyme right away.

DNA+ nutrition=life, the infections regenerate when they are treated in stages, it's one of the defense mechanisms. They use pleomorphism.

My protocol is not like any others, it is a new paradigm. I read what everyones problems with other protocols were and figured out how to overcome those.
For example these infections are all intracellular. When you kill the infections usually the cell dies too because of the endotoxin release inside the cell. What nobody else treats for that I have seen is the anemia that this causes and is responsible for that dragging ass feeling. You need something that actively rebuilds cells, that's what the moringa leaf in the protocol does. You also need to regenerate the macrophages in your immune system, the t-cells and b-cells so your immune system can ASSIST the artificial immune system. Moringa.

If you'll look carefully at the protocol I listed there is a "detox smoothie in there too. I posted it with several links as supporting evidence but this forum is a bad venue for it, the moderators pull posts for whatever reason, I posted it again without the links.
The Niacin in the smoothie dilates blood vessels so the treatment gets into places that are plugged by biofilm that the herbals would take care of but in a longer time span. Some small capalaries ar only big enough to let a couple cells pass.

I tried to create the best protocol possible for the money, hey it's my money too. I don't have a website, I don't sell anything. What I'm recommending costs less than half of cowdens.

I don't care if it was Einstien telling me how to do it, I found issues with all the top protocols.
collembolachick

Easton, CT

#455 Sep 23, 2013
collembolachick wrote:
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Hi Fred,
My environment is fine. I have a microscope camera. They are collembola. just looked at another one today.
Again, my house is taken care of between the menthol crystals, the cedarcide the ozone generator and Kleen green.
It has stopped jumping off me because of the enzymes. Still, the lyme is gotten worse since the change of season, and further, since I lost my job, I can no longer afford what I was taking for it. Carnivora was working great.
I have spoken with Dr. Sapi personally and she recommended Cowden technique. She was quite helpful, and understood exactly what is going on. She was also, a bit distant, which is understandable due to the magnitude of how this illness is at the onset. They are collembola. and wormy like things and flourescent green eggs. They used to fly off me before enzymes.
Do you have any idea how much one months supply is of your protocol? Im dealing with a family member and her dog too. Do you have an testimonials besides yourself with it?
Appreciate your time...
To add, I don't have morgellons. I don't have fibers. I have eruptions that become like volcanoes when I treat those areas, bugs and eggs come out. Further, there are exit points in the body.(right now at my ankle, where I was itchy. after spraying kleen green on it, out came 5 collembola. My house is completely treated. No mold. Just change of season. Seems lyme knows when that is. Since, I am having pain in my left wrist and shoulder. something I have not had in a long time.

im going broke.
FRED

Golden, CO

#456 Sep 23, 2013
In Sapi's case she was lucky in a way to get infected by a strain or co-infection set that showed right away. It also depends on blood type. Type O's like me can walk around for years with infections and be pretty functional before it catches up with them.

I learned something from everyone but I didn't just buy it lock stock and barrel. I triple checked everything. Cowden is a naturopath and didn't take the genetic factors into consideration at all. His compatability chart is an outright lie too.

Buhner made some mistakes too but he his spot on here;

Stephen Harrod Buhner’s opinion on biofilms.

“I am not a big fan of the biofilm hysteria that is common among the lyme community right now. ALL bacteria form biofilms. It is just a grouping of bacteria together in one location and the formation of a kind of rigid structure, similar to coral formation in the oceans, that they use to protect themselves. This is just ONE of a great many mechanisms bacteria use to protect themselves from immune responses or antibacterial substances and so on. It is no more dangerous or important than the bacterial ability to use efflux pumps to remove antibacterial substances from their cells or to use the immune system itself to hide from assault. Most herbal medicines are effective against biofilm formations just as are most immune systems. A biofilm may slow down effectiveness of immune response or herbal antibacterials but it does not stop them. It is not the terminator of bacterial protection. Biofilms have been around for eons and plants and immune systems have developed mechanisms for dealing with them. I would not worry about them as of being of particular importance in becoming healthy”

The herbs in proper concentration and using pharmacodynamic synergy and pharmcokenetic synergy clear out the biofilms too.

Buhner is clearly a brilliant researcher but he stated that the immune system will help from the beginning. That's not true. It can only assist an artificial immune system, when all the infections are gone it will take it's old job back.

I don't have a legion of followers like "Mel". Btw his skin color looks like he drinks bleach. People with health forums try to build dependencies and spout a relentless amount of disconnected data so people will follow them. Mel said he got run over by a car and spent time in the hospital so he knows how the body works, so all researchers should jump in traffic?!. His website is suggesting using two very toxic , antibacterial substances and the rest are formulas that he gets kickbacks from. He should be taken to court.

I made a point of not using any formulas because they are expensive and inadequate.
FRED

Golden, CO

#457 Sep 23, 2013
It doesn't mater if you have MD or not your still fighting pathogenic synergy produced by symbiosis.

When you take into account that there are a collection of infections inside a person that are causing this “Chronic Lyme” then what is happening is pathogenic synergy.

Pathogenic synergy is a commonly occurring phenomenon in nature and can be demonstrated by the phenomenon of “colony collapse disorder”, this is where whole colonies of bees die. What is happening there is that a parasite called Varroa Destructor changes the internal host dynamic so the deformed wing virus can take over.

That would be an example of kinetic synergy:

http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info%3Ad...

There are numerous examples of pathogenic synergy in the scientific literature.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6397141

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2...

I can't spend much time here any more. Good Luck.
FRED

Las Vegas, NV

#460 Sep 23, 2013
Here is a video of myself harvesting my secret ingredient.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#461 Sep 23, 2013
FRED wrote:
I don't have a legion of followers like "Mel".
You don't have any followers because you're not nice to people. Mel is nice.

It doesn't matter how superior your protocol is if no one does it.

Be kind and you can help lots of people who are suffering.
torment

Miami, FL

#462 Sep 24, 2013
Feeling Lousy wrote:
Steam or iron clothes before putting them on will kill them. I saw a bug when I was streaming my clothing sprayed Lysol on it, it kept moving grabbed the steamer handle died on site.
your right. Its worked wonders for me too

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#463 Sep 24, 2013
torment wrote:
<quoted text> your right. Its worked wonders for me too
Even Jeans????

I found a nest... I pulled out the cheap rubber baseboards in my kitchen.... between the lino and the wall something that looked like soil from a few feet away spilled out. UGH! I sprayed it, but still got absolutely covered from head to toe. I think many were dead already since I've been spraying the baseboards, but I haven't been so itchy in ages. I filled the crevice with foam, they had even eaten away at the dry wall in one spot, and will be covering the foam with silicon.

Disgusting. No wonder I feel attacked at the kitchen sink and table.

Thank you to the person of the Bird Mites Yahoo Group who recommended that you pull up the baseboards and seal the crack between the wall and the floor. Gross. I knew the cheap plastic baseboards were harboring the little monsters in my old house, but it was a yucky apt with a lame landlord so I wasn't going to do anything there except abandon it. Some PCO said that he's seen loads of springtail problems - all in concrete slab houses with tile floors.

And I'm sorry but f*ck cheap ass 1970's redecoration. Worst decade for aesthetics ever. The only good thing to come out of the 1970's was punk rock. And f*ck springtails!
torment

Hollywood, FL

#464 Sep 25, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Jeans????
I found a nest... I pulled out the cheap rubber baseboards in my kitchen.... between the lino and the wall something that looked like soil from a few feet away spilled out. UGH! I sprayed it, but still got absolutely covered from head to toe. I think many were dead already since I've been spraying the baseboards, but I haven't been so itchy in ages. I filled the crevice with foam, they had even eaten away at the dry wall in one spot, and will be covering the foam with silicon.
Disgusting. No wonder I feel attacked at the kitchen sink and table.
Thank you to the person of the Bird Mites Yahoo Group who recommended that you pull up the baseboards and seal the crack between the wall and the floor. Gross. I knew the cheap plastic baseboards were harboring the little monsters in my old house, but it was a yucky apt with a lame landlord so I wasn't going to do anything there except abandon it. Some PCO said that he's seen loads of springtail problems - all in concrete slab houses with tile floors.
And I'm sorry but f*ck cheap ass 1970's redecoration. Worst decade for aesthetics ever. The only good thing to come out of the 1970's was punk rock. And f*ck springtails!
nope. Ironing jeans won't work. With everything else it definitely will.
torment

Hollywood, FL

#465 Sep 25, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Jeans????
I found a nest... I pulled out the cheap rubber baseboards in my kitchen.... between the lino and the wall something that looked like soil from a few feet away spilled out. UGH! I sprayed it, but still got absolutely covered from head to toe. I think many were dead already since I've been spraying the baseboards, but I haven't been so itchy in ages. I filled the crevice with foam, they had even eaten away at the dry wall in one spot, and will be covering the foam with silicon.
Disgusting. No wonder I feel attacked at the kitchen sink and table.
Thank you to the person of the Bird Mites Yahoo Group who recommended that you pull up the baseboards and seal the crack between the wall and the floor. Gross. I knew the cheap plastic baseboards were harboring the little monsters in my old house, but it was a yucky apt with a lame landlord so I wasn't going to do anything there except abandon it. Some PCO said that he's seen loads of springtail problems - all in concrete slab houses with tile floors.
And I'm sorry but f*ck cheap ass 1970's redecoration. Worst decade for aesthetics ever. The only good thing to come out of the 1970's was punk rock. And f*ck springtails!
the problem with jeans is that they get within the deepest part of it but if you want to try it go ahead. Use lots of steam on your iron and be careful because they might jump on you will your doing this. I suggest you put something on your skin to keep them off if u can. Mineral oil helps or aveeno skin so soft.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#466 Sep 25, 2013
torment wrote:
<quoted text> nope. Ironing jeans won't work. With everything else it definitely will.
I think it works you have to iron the jeans inside out, if you have a steamer it works better....
torment

Hollywood, FL

#467 Sep 25, 2013
torment wrote:
<quoted text> the problem with jeans is that they get within the deepest part of it but if you want to try it go ahead. Use lots of steam on your iron and be careful because they might jump on you will your doing this. I suggest you put something on your skin to keep them off if u can. Mineral oil helps or aveeno skin so soft.
im sorry I meant Avon skin so soft bug repellant
torment

Hollywood, FL

#468 Sep 25, 2013
FRED wrote:
Here is a video of myself harvesting my secret ingredient.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FDKatUgkGtoXX
Fred, what were ur exact symptoms before? Did u have any sores? Thousands of black specks that sometimes pinched like a needle on ur skin? Happens to me a lot these days..a strong pinch on skin when I look there it is a tiny black dot sometimes smaller then this . As soon as I remove it the pinch is gone. Im not sure if the black thing is the fungus pinching me or the bug. Im still confused about it.
torment

Hollywood, FL

#469 Sep 25, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
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I think it works you have to iron the jeans inside out, if you have a steamer it works better....
it could work. I don't think I tried it like that but its worth a shot I guess
Laura

Tampa, FL

#470 Oct 2, 2013
After researching, I finally found out these are not baby bed bugs because we don't have any adults. They are in the bed and couch because the air conditioners are next to the bed & couch, coincidentally on my side. They get in through the wall especially after the rain. I took a bath in bleach water last night to kill any fungus on my skin & scalp. Today I sprayed insecticide around the AC. No itching after the midnight bath. Crossing my fingers for tonight. By the way, I live in Indiana where there are 29 species, one newly discovered in Wayne County. I'm not delusional. By gosh if I am, lock me up right now.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#471 Oct 2, 2013
Laura wrote:
After researching, I finally found out these are not baby bed bugs because we don't have any adults. They are in the bed and couch because the air conditioners are next to the bed & couch, coincidentally on my side. They get in through the wall especially after the rain. I took a bath in bleach water last night to kill any fungus on my skin & scalp. Today I sprayed insecticide around the AC. No itching after the midnight bath. Crossing my fingers for tonight. By the way, I live in Indiana where there are 29 species, one newly discovered in Wayne County. I'm not delusional. By gosh if I am, lock me up right now.
Do you have a microscope? That's how I figured out what they were.

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