Collembola/Springtails
Shelly

United States

#23 Jan 20, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
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Yes! On hot. And brush and nit-comb your hair outside at least 3x daily. Dozens of dust-like black/grey nymphs. I also use dog flea spray with perm on brushes combs and hair. Buy new brushes and combs every week (they're cheap from Daiso).
What you could try instead is getting just a regular black plastic comb and spray it down with 91% isopropyl alcohol after every use... Seems to have worked for me...:) Also, an occasional soak in bleach water doesn't hurt.
Shelly

United States

#24 Jan 20, 2013
Shelly wrote:
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What you could try instead is getting just a regular black plastic comb and spray it down with 91% isopropyl alcohol after every use... Seems to have worked for me...:) Also, an occasional soak in bleach water doesn't hurt.
Aaagh!! Also, if you use pony tail holders (the rubbery hair ties... Whatever they are called) you might want to throw those away after each use... 30 of them cost about $3.50... Seems like these bugs can survive in elastic a lot of the time...
Aurore

Acworth, GA

#27 Jan 21, 2013
Shelly,
Can it be used on caRPETS AND FURNITURETOO?
Shelly wrote:
Tried posting what has worked for us on a blog for collembola, but apparently the blogger refuses to approve my post... Whatever. So for anyone who is suffering from a collembola/springtail infestation, here is what works for the environment... Transport Mikron. You can buy it online from domyownpestcontrol... Mix 1.25 oz per gallon of water in a pump sprayer... Maybe $15 for the pump sprayer. We also used Martin's IGR every other week. One day, Transport... Exactly one week later, IGR... Repeat each a few times to be sure. Transport is a crack and crevice treatment, but we found it very effective when sprayed on all flooring, baseboards, windowsills, and inside lower cabinets. We lost nearly $30k during this nightmare, and if this bit of information saves someone else from doing the same, that's all I want. God only knows why a blogger who is going through the same thing would refuse to approve my post... Ammonia and borax in the wash... Blow up mattress... Arbonne body wash and the Salux Japanese wash cloths help. So do nystatin pills. Good luck!
Aurore

Acworth, GA

#28 Jan 21, 2013
Shelly,
Can i be sprayed on furniture and carpets also?

Since: Oct 12

Sydney

#29 Jan 21, 2013
Shelly wrote:
I'm sorry you're going through this, too... But that most definitely sounds like springtails... the body wash and the Salux both on amazon.com .
I'm afraid it's not easy getting rid of these springtails, but it's possible. I do hope you find your way through this soon. Holler if you have any questions... We've been through it all and tried everything...
Mine have a few different stages similar to, but not identical to, scabies. They differ in the fact that they can be seen, the eggs are larger and the tracks used to be way long until I reduced numbers. There's a sand-like stage and black dots too. The last stage is a hard splinter-like thing which is a few mm long.

Shelly, is this springtails? Could the uni student who told me it was bird mites have been wrong?

Since: Oct 12

Sydney

#30 Jan 21, 2013
Shelly wrote:
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Aaagh!! Also, if you use pony tail holders (the rubbery hair ties... Whatever they are called) you might want to throw those away after each use... 30 of them cost about $3.50... Seems like these bugs can survive in elastic a lot of the time...
Ha, you must be reading my mind... I buy a pack of 30 every two weeks. Though Ive cut my hair to ear level now, so I don't need hair elastics except in hot weather.

BTW, the splinter things were the things that jumped. I've been saying this on the boards for ages though nobody picked it up before. However, they haven't been able to develop to splinter stage for a few weeks due to the extremely aggressive nature of what I'm throwing at 'em. What is their life cycle?
Shelly

United States

#31 Jan 21, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
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Hi again Shelly. Don't know if UK2 got better, as his condition it turned into chronic myiasis in the end, due to all of the bad treatments and advice he'd received. Think it was thrips. Would love to hear from him again if only to hear he's ok and what's been happening.
Mine were originally diagnosed as scabies, then a uni student said bird mite D Gallinae, but after extensive reading think its a combination of that and spring-tails. Anything is possible from what could have been lurking on our roof and in ceiling.
Docs know nothing as there's literally 10s of 1000s of mites that haven't been studied at all. Those studies stating they can't be transferred between human/animal should see my skin and that of the thousands, probably millions, of other sufferers.
Thank you for the update on UK2... I wondered what happened to him once he went back to the UK... Poor guy went to such great lengths to get help...

One thing I do know is springtails love paper, moisture, wood, and any kind of fungus or mold. Being that your problem started with moisture and your attic (is it an older home?) springtails are a likely cause of your grief... Maybe all of it. We will never know if it was just springtails in the beginning, but I really would not doubt if it was what we were dealing with from day one. Evil little bastards they are. Off subject, but before this nightmare, I would spare almost all bugs... I'd tell myself that they were here before me and they'll be here after I'm gone.. God created us all, so who am I to squish this spider crawling in my house? Hah!! I hate them all now. The only good bug is a dead bug.
Shelly

United States

#32 Jan 21, 2013
Aurore wrote:
Shelly,
Can i be sprayed on furniture and carpets also?
Hi Aurore! Do you have children? The reason I ask is because this insecticide is pretty strong and is only recommended as a crack and crevice treatment. We did spray our carpet, but we ended up removing it all, as we were still finding a couple of bugs in those rooms... Dead, of course, but it seemed like they had nested in the carpet. I don't think this is necessary, but we've already accrued so much debt from this mess, what's a little more? I did read on the shanspirations blog that they injection cleaned their carpets with Biokleen Bac Out (think you can find it on drugstore.com ) and had no problems after that. They also sprayed the IGR on their carpets frequently and used DE (I honestly wouldn't recommend the DE... It decimated our Dyson and it's very messy)... I think with persistence, you could rid your carpet of these bugs. The furniture, I really don't know. We threw away all we had with us and the rest was and still is in storage... Bug free, I hope... What's left in storage never went to that house or our new one as of yet. The Transport Mikron isn't recommended on any areas with frequent skin contact... That's why I'm not sure about furniture... I wish I had a better answer for you. Perhaps you could call the people at domyownpestcontrol.com and ask what they suggest? I know Bedlam Plus aerosol spray is used for furniture and other stuff that may come in contact with skin.. And it's supposed to be effective against bed bugs... We tried the Alpine aerosol spray and it seemed to help temporarily... Wouldn't really recommend that one unless you spray it daily, and it's pretty pricey...
Shelly

United States

#33 Jan 21, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
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Thanks again for sharing! There is soo much stuff out there! Did you use the cedarcide?
Hi there! We did used the cedarcide with the tri jet fogger and it brought zero relief in the house... In fact, it seemed to set them into a frenzy on us... Tried four days in a row and nothing changed... Except for the worse. Used it in the car, too, after each use but I'm positive I'd already eliminated them in there with the IGR, Orange TKO cleaner, and menthol crystals... I guess it was more of a "just in case" and since I still had about a gallon of the shite left, might as well use it up.:0/
Shelly

United States

#34 Jan 21, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
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Ha, you must be reading my mind... I buy a pack of 30 every two weeks. Though Ive cut my hair to ear level now, so I don't need hair elastics except in hot weather.
BTW, the splinter things were the things that jumped. I've been saying this on the boards for ages though nobody picked it up before. However, they haven't been able to develop to splinter stage for a few weeks due to the extremely aggressive nature of what I'm throwing at 'em. What is their life cycle?
Hah! Tortured minds think alike?:) About their life cycle, I've read different things... From five weeks to five months... I really don't think a whole lot is really known about them... Most of what I've read said they don't infest humans and are just an unsightly nuisance in the home... Riiiight. I have read that there are some estimated 30,000 types of them...:0/

Since: Jan 13

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#35 Jan 21, 2013
Hi Shelly, How long did it take to get rid of them?
Aurore

Acworth, GA

#36 Jan 21, 2013
I have grandkids so I will just use as crack crevice. I was going to get onslaught and use with Nylar. I will check and see which they recomend. Thanks!
Shelly wrote:
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Hi Aurore! Do you have children? The reason I ask is because this insecticide is pretty strong and is only recommended as a crack and crevice treatment. We did spray our carpet, but we ended up removing it all, as we were still finding a couple of bugs in those rooms... Dead, of course, but it seemed like they had nested in the carpet. I don't think this is necessary, but we've already accrued so much debt from this mess, what's a little more? I did read on the shanspirations blog that they injection cleaned their carpets with Biokleen Bac Out (think you can find it on drugstore.com ) and had no problems after that. They also sprayed the IGR on their carpets frequently and used DE (I honestly wouldn't recommend the DE... It decimated our Dyson and it's very messy)... I think with persistence, you could rid your carpet of these bugs. The furniture, I really don't know. We threw away all we had with us and the rest was and still is in storage... Bug free, I hope... What's left in storage never went to that house or our new one as of yet. The Transport Mikron isn't recommended on any areas with frequent skin contact... That's why I'm not sure about furniture... I wish I had a better answer for you. Perhaps you could call the people at domyownpestcontrol.com and ask what they suggest? I know Bedlam Plus aerosol spray is used for furniture and other stuff that may come in contact with skin.. And it's supposed to be effective against bed bugs... We tried the Alpine aerosol spray and it seemed to help temporarily... Wouldn't really recommend that one unless you spray it daily, and it's pretty pricey...
Shelly

United States

#37 Jan 22, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
Hi Shelly, How long did it take to get rid of them?
Hi Needpeace! We sprayed weekly for about six weeks, alternating the Transport and IGR. Hadn't seen any dead ones in over three weeks, but found a couple dead in our living room windowsill yesterday.:( My husband went back to school last week and started using his truck again. I guess he is bringing them in from the truck. Back to spraying we go. I never used the menthol crystals in his truck, so I'm wondering if maybe that was the key to truly eliminating them from my car. We used the IGR, Alpine spray, and cedarcide fogger in his truck randomly. We had used his truck to store our stuff (mostly in bags) last summer (and let it all cook in the Texas sun) when we still thought it was scabies. Ugh. Still not feeling any pin pricks inside the house, so I think it must not be many that made it inside. Lord, I hope we can all find an end to this madness.
Shelly

United States

#38 Jan 22, 2013
Aurore wrote:
I have grandkids so I will just use as crack crevice. I was going to get onslaught and use with Nylar. I will check and see which they recomend. Thanks!<quoted text>
Hi Aurore! Have you ever tried the Onslaught? Any ideas if it works?
Shelly

Longview, TX

#39 Jan 22, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
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Mine have a few different stages similar to, but not identical to, scabies. They differ in the fact that they can be seen, the eggs are larger and the tracks used to be way long until I reduced numbers. There's a sand-like stage and black dots too. The last stage is a hard splinter-like thing which is a few mm long.
Shelly, is this springtails? Could the uni student who told me it was bird mites have been wrong?
Hi Misery in AU! I believe I misspoke previously... The slivers that jump definitely sound like springtails... The burrowing, I really don't know. I did have a few straight short burrow looking things in the beginning that itched, but I never found out if we had scabies or what in the beginning. The pin prick sensations and crawling sensations were most definitely from the springtails and fungus. The pin prick feeling comes from their little forked tails sticking into your skin when they spring off of you... Most I have found are the size and color of a splinter... Though back in November, I combed one out of my hair in the shower that was the size of a pill bug!! Hope this helps someone...
Lost

Harwood Heights, IL

#41 Jan 22, 2013
Shelly, Has anyone infected their work? How do you solve that problem? I leave for work feeling halfway good, but then after an hour at work the crawling and pin pricks begin.

Is anyone on a special diet to take care of themselves internally? I hear we have to keep our PH level at neutral and stay away from sugar and starches.
Shelly

Longview, TX

#43 Jan 22, 2013
About the cedarcide, it was nearly $100 a gallon from what I remember... And it took us over half a gallon to fog our house each time... Really too expensive for me to continue to try it when it produced zero results after four foggings... Actually made everything worse. I know it has worked for some people, but I don't have any moolah left after this poop, so I gave it up.

As far as your work environment goes, one of my family members was visiting when the other family member opened up the attic (Pandora's box) and is still suffering with these bugs. She took them home with her and to her job... What you could do is fill up a large spray bottle with a mix of Transport Mikron (it is good even after left sitting) and take it to work with you on a Friday... Maybe stay late and spray everything down really good? Alternate with the IGR?? Just make sure no one else is around... Or if you have access, come in on a weekend... Or quit??:) Who needs a job anyway? I kid, I kid...:)
Shelly

Longview, TX

#44 Jan 22, 2013
With the Arbonne, are you applying it with a Salux washcloth or a rough nylon scrubby to dry skin and allowing it to dry completely before rinsing? The first few weeks I used it, I failed to do this, but once I did, it helped immensely. Felt SO much better. For hair, I added tea tree oil and peppermint oil to my shampoo right before applying it to my head, scrubbed really well and left on for at least five minutes... I know that works to kill the bugs because I combed through it after rinsing (while still in the shower) and combed out a humongoid springtail... It twitched a few times and died. Hooray!!:)
Shelly

Longview, TX

#45 Jan 22, 2013
Also, my husband is 99% unaffected by these bugs... Which has added to the strain. Yet another person who doesn't quite believe me... But humors me most of the time.Other than a nose tickling and itchy legs once, he doesn't feel them. His stuff and truck are infested, though... He just simply doesn't feel them. I think it has to do with how sensitive your skin is... My daughter, me, and my other family member all have fair, sensitive skin... They are pretty difficult to get out of clothing, but A&H powdered soap, borax and ammonia during a good super hot soaking in the washer can rid your clothes of them. Whether it kills the eggs, I really don't know. We have tossed most of our clothes, with the exception of a few sets that we constantly rotate.
Shelly

Longview, TX

#46 Jan 22, 2013
About diet, thecandidadiet dot com is very helpful. I notice a big difference in the crawly feeling in my scalp when I cut out the sugar and coffee... The coffee is the hardest. Can't quite seem to get that habit completely kicked... But I'm working on it.

Also, any natural antifungals and a GOOD probiotic are a definite help. I'm still struggling with all of this, but I'm learning a bit here and there.

Also, wanted to tell you that if you don't find anything in your environment, you may need to spray once or twice to find any dead ones... Look in the windowsills.. Really.:) If that still fails to reveal anything, you can always try doing your own skin scraping. Amazon has all the supplies you need... If your Derm has ever done one for you, you have probably realized how simple it is. I actually did this a couple ofttimes right before I found my first springtail... Just be careful.:)

PS--That microscope really is the best $200 I ever spent.:)

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