Collembola/Springtails

Since: Jun 12

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#327 Sep 16, 2013
This person on this video claims great success with springtails!

Tormented

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#328 Sep 16, 2013
Munch Thanks Hungry Ghost!

I do not have anymore collembola bugs (at least I have not seen one for months) only the black specks and the burning itching, tingling, pin prick sensation that is horrendous. What do you recommend for the burning? In the morning I always feel quite alright till the day progresses then i start to feel all the symptoms again always commencing from my feet. Sometimes, I feel that it tricks around with me. For example there are some days (those are very few) that I don't feel nothing as if I am cured but then there are those days were the symptoms never stop. Please help. Any input you give me will be greatly appreciated.
Tormented

Summerland Key, FL

#329 Sep 16, 2013
I would also like to mention that I try to never wear cotton clothing and pants but skirts and shorts. This includes all of my jeans in which were all infested with the actual bug I belive because everytime I would slip one on I felt thousands of bugs crawling on me. I had to trash all of my jeans because nothing, not even soaking them in 91% alcohol was killing them. It has helped me live almost a normal life to the point where I do not feel the crawling tingling sensation.

Also iron all of your clothes real well before putting them on. It WILL kill the bugs and possibly the fungus. You may leave the iron within one spot for a time or so, enough not to burn it, and then move it around. It worked real well for me.
Tormented

Summerland Key, FL

#330 Sep 16, 2013
FRED wrote:
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No one has the same problem that you came up with from those stupid drama websites you go to. Collembola don't infest people. I asked you several times to post some substantiated science saying they do and you posted a bunch of incoherent gibberish.
Just because your finding "collembola" in glue traps doesn't mean they infest people . You can find mice in glue traps too but they don't get inside you.
Any collembola that are where you live are feeding off the mold you described in your place. This has been what you've been posting for at least 3 months now. If you can't figure out how to abate some mold and treat the environment for collembola in 3 months or move out in 3 months that's pretty lame.
If you can't figure out how to do that call the county health board. Spraying white vinegar around kills mold and putting a moth ball every 3 feet and leaving for a day will kill the collembola. Allow for ventalation because the moth ball trick puts out some toxic vapor so you'll want to open a couple windows for a while to ventilate before you go back in and pick up the moth balls.
You may want to research the diseases that collembola pas to people when they incidentally bite them , they do not infest people. Wolbachia and Bartonella are common infections of colembolla.
Collembola do not infect people except on drama websites. The Neurological problems associated with the infections that an incidental collembola bite will pass to a person explain the nature of your posts.
Going to a Dermatologist for these types of problem is useless, you might as well go to a podiatrist.
It is interesting how most non believers want scientific proof when the scientists themselves even admit that they do not have answers to many many things. If you want links to prove anything I have one. See below.

http://soilbugs.massey.ac.nz/collembola.php

There are millions of different types of springtail species worldwide and only 6,000 have been studied. The rest as the site puts it are "unknown" Interesting point. Could we be dealing with one of those millions that no one knows about? I am not sure. However, if you research more on these creatures some of those springtails, known to mankind, have turned out to be carnivores especially when they are in desperate need of food and nothing else is around. This tells me that they find ways to survive at any cost and therefore this tells me that they can and will become parasitic if they have too.

The fact that Hungry Ghost and I as well as many others started off with a collembola infestation within our homes tells me that they do play a huge significat role here. Many of the other symptons like the tingle, burning, black specks came right after. What scientist will come out and help us indentify it? That I have seen it is as if no one cares to find out. Maybe it will happen when their children or even grand children get infected by it.

I really do not desire this on anyone, as it has been hell for me and has affected every part of my life, but after a year of suffering with this I am beginning to realize that this will definately need to infect millions of people (including doctors and scientists) before anyone takes us seriously.

I also know that at this moment there are over hundreds of people with these symptoms reading this but not sharing or voicing out what they have to doctors and family members for fear of looking like a nutcase. If ALL of us take a stand and come out of the hidding places maybe something will get done about it. After all it is our life...
It is very sad to say but so true.
FRED

Golden, CO

#331 Sep 16, 2013
When you say that a colembola infection is THE problem then it's simple. Move out of your moldy surroundings or call the exterminator.

That's because collembola DON'T infest people.

You very well might get infected with another bacterial pathogen from a collembola bite but the collembola DON'T infest people.

For some crazy reason HG likes to pass off these completely unsubstantiated falsehoods.

The bacterial infection you get from a "incidental" collembolla bite will cause crawling and itching feelings.

If you are going to base your idea of what is happening to you on something that defies science then how do you expect to ever be cured?

On the other hand if you base your understanding on scientific studies you will be able to actually understand what is happening to you.

COLLEMBOLA DON"T INFEST PEOPLE.

If you are pulling what you think is a collembola out of your nose then your living arrangements suck and you should use all that mental acuity to figure out that simple problem because the real problem is going to take much more understanding and you'll need the mental exercise.

They are all over the place in the grass in Colorado and if they infested people everyone here would be a mess, but they aren't because COLLEMBOLA DON"T INFEST PEOPLE.
FRED

Golden, CO

#332 Sep 16, 2013
Tormented wrote:
Munch Thanks Hungry Ghost!
I do not have anymore collembola bugs (at least I have not seen one for months) only the black specks and the burning itching, tingling, pin prick sensation that is horrendous. What do you recommend for the burning? In the morning I always feel quite alright till the day progresses then i start to feel all the symptoms again always commencing from my feet. Sometimes, I feel that it tricks around with me. For example there are some days (those are very few) that I don't feel nothing as if I am cured but then there are those days were the symptoms never stop. Please help. Any input you give me will be greatly appreciated.
The life cycle of bacteria is anywhere between 20 minutes and a month. When they are born and emerge from your endothelial cells then the symptoms will peak.
torment

Hollywood, FL

#333 Sep 16, 2013
FRED wrote:
When you say that a colembola infection is THE problem then it's simple. Move out of your moldy surroundings or call the exterminator.
That's because collembola DON'T infest people.
You very well might get infected with another bacterial pathogen from a collembola bite but the collembola DON'T infest people.
For some crazy reason HG likes to pass off these completely unsubstantiated falsehoods.
The bacterial infection you get from a "incidental" collembolla bite will cause crawling and itching feelings.
If you are going to base your idea of what is happening to you on something that defies science then how do you expect to ever be cured?
On the other hand if you base your understanding on scientific studies you will be able to actually understand what is happening to you.
COLLEMBOLA DON"T INFEST PEOPLE.
If you are pulling what you think is a collembola out of your nose then your living arrangements suck and you should use all that mental acuity to figure out that simple problem because the real problem is going to take much more understanding and you'll need the mental exercise.
They are all over the place in the grass in Colorado and if they infested people everyone here would be a mess, but they aren't because COLLEMBOLA DON"T INFEST PEOPLE.
. Collembola don't search for people to infest them that I can agree with you, however, in order to survive they will do everything they can. I have personally seen this. Like HG my previous apartment became infested with these anthropods. In my case it started off with my dog who wouldn't stop biting or itching then after i treated her with comfortis pills believing it was fleas they started to attack me!! I never saw a flea in the house btw but felt every nasty bite...turned out i had springtails everywhere in tub and kitchen sink even in my clothing. I eventually had to move since they wouldn't die not even with the thousands of money i spent on fumigating the place. After I moved I eventually took some with me cuz I found some in bathroom and I friend of mine who would visit felt some bites in her house and found a springtail on her bed. After I advised her to through out mattress she got better. My point is they can infest humans if they have too.
FRED

Golden, CO

#334 Sep 16, 2013
I have read several entomology studies on them. I also done extensive searches for anything that is scientifically substantiated saying they infest people.

It's not there.

You choose to misinterpret what you are experiencing. Not everything can be understood by just looking at something.

You have to look to read some real science so that you can actually understand what is happening.

The mattress probably had mold or mildew and that's what they feed off of. You see you didn't throw out the "friend" you threw out the mattress. If they were infesting your friend the mattress wouldn't have mattered.
FRED

Golden, CO

#335 Sep 16, 2013
If they were in your tub and kitchen sink they were feeding off the drain slime and mold in the p- traps.

1. change the p-traps ~or
2. pour white vinegar down the drains and let set over night.
torment

Hollywood, FL

#336 Sep 16, 2013
FRED wrote:
I have read several entomology studies on them. I also done extensive searches for anything that is scientifically substantiated saying they infest people.
It's not there.
You choose to misinterpret what you are experiencing. Not everything can be understood by just looking at something.
You have to look to read some real science so that you can actually understand what is happening.
The mattress probably had mold or mildew and that's what they feed off of. You see you didn't throw out the "friend" you threw out the mattress. If they were infesting your friend the mattress wouldn't have mattered.
Your misinterpreting what I am saying..I never said my friend got infested with springtails only that she felt bites. She originally felt the bites at my house then afterwards started feeling them at night while she slept at her home. I gave her tips for cleaning her environment, including, throwing out the mattress and she never felt bites afterwards. It didn't get a good grasp of her to infest her cuz she cleaned everything out before it could. It took me several months to realize what I was dealing with so it was too late for me. New things come up.all the time mayb this is something that has not yet been scientifically proven but it does exist.
torment

Hollywood, FL

#337 Sep 16, 2013
FRED wrote:
If they were in your tub and kitchen sink they were feeding off the drain slime and mold in the p- traps.
1. change the p-traps ~or
2. pour white vinegar down the drains and let set over night.
been there done that..we even poured Clorox down the drains..n they kept coming back.
torment

United States

#338 Sep 16, 2013
FRED wrote:
I have read several entomology studies on them. I also done extensive searches for anything that is scientifically substantiated saying they infest people.
It's not there.
You choose to misinterpret what you are experiencing. Not everything can be understood by just looking at something.
You have to look to read some real science so that you can actually understand what is happening.
The mattress probably had mold or mildew and that's what they feed off of. You see you didn't throw out the "friend" you threw out the mattress. If they were infesting your friend the mattress wouldn't have mattered.
reading something online doesn't necessarily prove anything. We, who are experiencing this our truly suffering. It is the reason as to why we are here. It isn't something we even knew about prior having this. I, for example, had no idea what collembola even was. It wasn't till I started feeling all the symptoms I have now, and after being blown off by the docs, when I sought out information. To my surprise there are thousands of others going through the same exact things. But we can't make no one believe us. To some it requires personal experience. How about u sleep in an infested home for a month and let me know how it goes?
geez

Florence, KY

#339 Sep 16, 2013
Shelly wrote:
Tried posting what has worked for us on a blog for collembola, but apparently the blogger refuses to approve my post... Whatever. So for anyone who is suffering from a collembola/springtail infestation, here is what works for the environment... Transport Mikron. You can buy it online from domyownpestcontrol... Mix 1.25 oz per gallon of water in a pump sprayer... Maybe $15 for the pump sprayer. We also used Martin's IGR every other week. One day, Transport... Exactly one week later, IGR... Repeat each a few times to be sure. Transport is a crack and crevice treatment, but we found it very effective when sprayed on all flooring, baseboards, windowsills, and inside lower cabinets. We lost nearly $30k during this nightmare, and if this bit of information saves someone else from doing the same, that's all I want. God only knows why a blogger who is going through the same thing would refuse to approve my post... Ammonia and borax in the wash... Blow up mattress... Arbonne body wash and the Salux Japanese wash cloths help. So do nystatin pills. Good luck!
Why oh why did I read this before bed? I'm terrified of bugs and had never even heard of these and just googled them now I'll be worried about them, too. How did you get them?
I'm absolutely petrified of getting an infestation of any kind on myself or home to the point I get panic attacks if I think I've been bitten or anything. It's not normal. Does anyone else deal with this?

Since: Jan 13

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#340 Sep 17, 2013
FRED wrote:
I have read several entomology studies on them. I also done extensive searches for anything that is scientifically substantiated saying they infest people.
It's not there.
You choose to misinterpret what you are experiencing. Not everything can be understood by just looking at something.
You have to look to read some real science so that you can actually understand what is happening.
The mattress probably had mold or mildew and that's what they feed off of. You see you didn't throw out the "friend" you threw out the mattress. If they were infesting your friend the mattress wouldn't have mattered.
Yeah, because if it isn't in a scientific paper, it's not happening.

Riiiiight.

Fred says that Collembola don't infect people because there's no science to prove that they do.

Hey Fred! How do scientific studies come about? What makes a scientist study something?

ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.

(duh).

I've seen them come out of my skin. So has my doctor. They've been ID'd. You have no rational basis to say that it isn't happening. You're not here, it's not you. There are thousands of people to back me up on this. Oh wait... you've been thrown out of all the moderated forums on mites and morgellons. I guess you'll just have to wait for the scientific study to be published on it. Buh bye.

Since: Jan 13

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#341 Sep 17, 2013
geez wrote:
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Why oh why did I read this before bed? I'm terrified of bugs and had never even heard of these and just googled them now I'll be worried about them, too. How did you get them?
I'm absolutely petrified of getting an infestation of any kind on myself or home to the point I get panic attacks if I think I've been bitten or anything. It's not normal. Does anyone else deal with this?
OK... you're the person who the infectious disease doctor should refer to a psychologist.

Go to bed. We're fine. We're dealing with it. If it happens to you, you'll deal with it.

Irrational fears need to be dealt with... live your life. Enjoy it. I have an great life with or without bugs. We're all going to die, and in order to really live you just need to figure out how to live without fear.

Goodnight.

Since: Jan 13

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#342 Sep 17, 2013
Tormented wrote:
I would also like to mention that I try to never wear cotton clothing and pants but skirts and shorts. This includes all of my jeans in which were all infested with the actual bug I belive because everytime I would slip one on I felt thousands of bugs crawling on me. I had to trash all of my jeans because nothing, not even soaking them in 91% alcohol was killing them. It has helped me live almost a normal life to the point where I do not feel the crawling tingling sensation.
Also iron all of your clothes real well before putting them on. It WILL kill the bugs and possibly the fungus. You may leave the iron within one spot for a time or so, enough not to burn it, and then move it around. It worked real well for me.
No jeans and t-shirts? Gah!

I don't mind throwing all my stuff away (I did that mostly)... but on a day to day basis.... jeans! Wah!

OK. I will go to Goodwill and get a bunch of poly dresses. hrmph.

As to your earlier question... I never saw springtails in the number you describe, I had to put out glue traps in order to ID them (although later I got some good samples from my nose, and a few decent ones from my skin). They are the world's fastest bug, so they are probably still hanging out in your house, just not in the thousands. I get a few jumping on me in the kitchen or bathroom, especially if I don't treat heavily, but I never see them out and about in the house.

The first time I saw a live one in the "wild" it was 6 months into my infestation. I was walking to the bathroom and at eye level was a shelf with a plastic bag on it. There was a red springtail right there, and I went to touch it, to see if it was living and it hopped away! After that I got a live one coming out of my skin... and I was taking it to the microscope to ID and it hopped away. Bastard.

I got some GREAT retro products that I love... JH McClean's Volcano Oil (since 1841!) and Alkalol Nasal Wash (since 1896!). Both awesome, but strong. The latter has Benzoin in it, the former has "camphor sassafrassy oil". Worth it for the packaging.
woa

Florence, KY

#343 Sep 17, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
<quoted text>No jeans and t-shirts? Gah!

I don't mind throwing all my stuff away (I did that mostly)... but on a day to day basis.... jeans! Wah!

OK. I will go to Goodwill and get a bunch of poly dresses. hrmph.

As to your earlier question... I never saw springtails in the number you describe, I had to put out glue traps in order to ID them (although later I got some good samples from my nose, and a few decent ones from my skin). They are the world's fastest bug, so they are probably still hanging out in your house, just not in the thousands. I get a few jumping on me in the kitchen or bathroom, especially if I don't treat heavily, but I never see them out and about in the house.

The first time I saw a live one in the "wild" it was 6 months into my infestation. I was walking to the bathroom and at eye level was a shelf with a plastic bag on it. There was a red springtail right there, and I went to touch it, to see if it was living and it hopped away! After that I got a live one coming out of my skin... and I was taking it to the microscope to ID and it hopped away. Bastard.

I got some GREAT retro products that I love... JH McClean's Volcano Oil (since 1841!) and Alkalol Nasal Wash (since 1896!). Both awesome, but strong. The latter has Benzoin in it, the former has "camphor sassafrassy oil". Worth it for the packaging.
Coming out of your skin? How did you see that? Is there debate on if they actually burrow into your skin or not?
Angel

Chicago, IL

#344 Sep 17, 2013
Tormented wrote:
I would also like to mention that I try to never wear cotton clothing and pants but skirts and shorts. This includes all of my jeans in which were all infested with the actual bug I belive because everytime I would slip one on I felt thousands of bugs crawling on me. I had to trash all of my jeans because nothing, not even soaking them in 91% alcohol was killing them. It has helped me live almost a normal life to the point where I do not feel the crawling tingling sensation.
Also iron all of your clothes real well before putting them on. It WILL kill the bugs and possibly the fungus. You may leave the iron within one spot for a time or so, enough not to burn it, and then move it around. It worked real well for me.
I agree cotton is the worse but I still wear them. Jeans too every day. I soak my colored clothes in Borax for 30 minutes. Then rinse and wash normal with Tide, Borax and either Oxy Clean or A&H soap added Whites I soak in bleach for 30 minutes first I keep all my clean clothes in plastic zippered garment bags. All dirty clothes go in garbage bags.

Putting on certain body lotions keep the itching and biting down to almost zero. I use Neem oil in all my lotions. For lotions I use organic coconut lotion, or organic lavender lotion. Coconut oil with neem oil works good to. I also spray Tinactin on my feet. Wear only Croc shoes and wipe them down with rubbing alcohol

The bugs are only attracted to you and your house because you have a fungus that they feed off of. The fungus is internal and external. Take fungicide meds internally. Cats claw, oil of oreganol , GSE , Clove leaf, neem oil pills , coconut oil. Mix them up every week.

Clean your home of any mold. We changed our faucets and it made a huge difference.

Wash home with Kleen green, windex or rubbing alcohol. The alcohol works great in the bathrooms.

Be patient. Will take a long time. A year or longer. But it goes get easier and better.

Keep your immune system very strong. Take probiotics, trace minerals and make sure you protect your liver. Very important.

Don't loose hope. Dont loose faith. God is with you.
FRED

Golden, CO

#345 Sep 17, 2013
"Take fungicide meds internally. Cats claw, oil of oreganol , GSE , Clove leaf, neem oil pills , coconut oil. Mix them up every week."

Everything there is good except the GSE. That is actually toxic, to your liver.

http://chemicaloftheday.squarespace.com/most-...

The neem is a waste of time and there are plenty of other good solutions to add to your protocol like usnea tincture or barberry root tincture.

"Clean your home of any mold. We changed our faucets and it made a huge difference."

You can usually find a good dehumidifier on craigslist for cheap and that is helpful. It is very hard to abate mold that has taken root in wood though.

"Wash home with Kleen green, windex or rubbing alcohol. The alcohol works great in the bathrooms."

If your bored you can clean like a fanatic but the reality is;

"Be patient. Will take a long time. A year or longer. But it goes get easier and better."

If it takes a year or longer to get rid of your scabies then it's not scabies you are treating.

"Keep your immune system very strong. Take probiotics, trace minerals and make sure you protect your liver. Very important."

The problem is here that the newer evolved infections actually infect the immune system and they readily share DNA so different types of pathogens in the same person achieve the same immunity.

Here is an example.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/...

"Building your immunity" doesn't do very much because these types of infections aren't on the radar of your immune system. They infect the macrophage cells and the thymus gets infected so T-cell count is way down, B-cells in the bone marrow are also infected.

The way to beat these types of infections is to introduce an artificial immune system. That is what you need and it takes a comprehensive strategy.

Protecting your liver is well achieved through the use of Chanca Piedra tincture.

http://www.rain-tree.com/chanca.htm#.UjjEeT_Q...
FRED

Golden, CO

#346 Sep 17, 2013
If you want a comprehensive plan then read the thread, "morgellons and lyme from mite infections". I've laid out a clean slate protocol that takes all pathogens out of the body.

Why is it important to follow a clean slate protocol that addresses fungi, bacterial, parasitic and viral infections all at the same time?

Because of mycoplasma for one reason. Mycoplasma is the remnants of DNA from pathogens that have been killed inside you. DNA plus nutrition equals life. This pathogenic DNA gets inside your cells and sets up camp.

Cinnamon bark tincture treats mycoplasma infections.

http://biomed.papers.upol.cz/getrevsrc.php...

If you think you are only dealing with a fungal infection then you are mistaken.

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