Collembola/Springtails
yikes_in_ca

United States

#211 Jun 3, 2013
So recently I discovered that I had a shower (water) leak between my bathroom and outside wall. The leak was immediately fixed. A week later, I removed my bathroom baseboards to paint my and install new baseboards. With my busy schedule 3 weeks lapsed in replacing my baseboards (still not replaced) when I noticed grey in color speck like insects. I'm finding 1 or 2 or 3 (not bunches)on my bathroom tile floor. I had Terminix out the other day and they said I had Mites do to the moisture and possibly mold from the shower leak. I'm paranoid that they will migrate to my bedroom or other areas of my home. What puzzles me is that these little teeny tiny speak like insects do not look like Springtail pics on-line. I cannot see legs or antenna's. Nor do they jump. When I do find one, I tap the floor with my nail and it simply runs. I'm going to my son's science call later today to look at one under a microscope.
misery_in_au

Wollongong, Australia

#212 Jun 4, 2013
Shelley- they were thrips- they look like a lot of different bugs in their many stages of development- using Malathion now (very very sparingly) and they are dying off right now even with the microscopic amount of chemical I'm using.
stock

Sweden

#213 Jun 5, 2013
Many times I think scabies are what people think they have got when they have other parasites, for ex. some type of nematod like Strongyloides. Rodents; perhaps eccinoccucus; but I do not know how well the symptoms agree with the last. Almost all parasites, like trematodes and nematodes for ex. have both animals and humans as hosts! Borrow GOOD medical literature concerning INFECTION DISEASES, literature that med students and doctors uses! An remember that many times the books are very UNexact. Some books list symptoms different from another, and so forth.

Many, many parasites use your whole body; the tissues, the blood, the guts, especially the stomach and lungs, even though you just feel them on the skin, or see soars or similar. For Strongyloides and many other parasites the cure is primarily Albendazole, Thiebendazoel or a few other medicines. Read about the doses. The parasites can live in the earth for as long as one and a half month, many times. The house and the clothes must be desinfected (Cook the clothes, usa chlorin and boiling water when cleaning. Deworm your pets and wash them several times.

A warning; When ordering medicines: Avoid Canadian Health and care Mall !!! My medicines got delayed over TWO monthe , twice and they did not even try to make it rigt, just said "OK, Contact us if you have not recieved the medicin about ten Days": Totally mad! I actually used the once Before (but forgot about it) and then I did not even get my medicin).

SO, a warning: Do not use Canadian Health and care Mall !!!
Shelly wrote:
Hi Needpeace! In the beginning, I felt a few intense itches and when I applied peroxide to some "bites" what looked to me like a few tracks would show up. We never got a diagnosis of scabies officially from any doctor, but they did prescribe permethrin to us a bunch of times and a few doses of stromectol. I don't know if what we had in the beginning was scabies or not. It could have been a whole slew of things, as we were renting a house for a few months while in between our old house and our new one, and a family member opened the attic one day and the nightmare immediately began. Leaves fell out into the house and a lot of insulation... Squirrels were also living in the attic. Itching, intense crawling, and pin prick bite feelings ensued for months. The red pin prick dots under the skin have not and probably never will go away. My baby has some, as well. I feel like we could have possibly gotten scabies at the same time from a family member who visited at the same time, or it could have been rodent mites from the squirrels in the attic... Or it could have been springtails all along. We will probably never know. What I do know is after dumping all but a FEW belongings we had with us in that house, we managed to still bring them with us to our new construction home. After we moved, the bite feelings decreased substantially, but the few that traveled with us rapidly increased and infested our new home.
FRED

Golden, CO

#214 Jun 5, 2013
stock wrote:
Many times I think scabies are what people think they have got when they have other parasites, for ex. some type of nematod like Strongyloides. Rodents; perhaps eccinoccucus; but I do not know how well the symptoms agree with the last. Almost all parasites, like trematodes and nematodes for ex. have both animals and humans as hosts! Borrow GOOD medical literature concerning INFECTION DISEASES, literature that med students and doctors uses! An remember that many times the books are very UNexact. Some books list symptoms different from another, and so forth.
Many, many parasites use your whole body; the tissues, the blood, the guts, especially the stomach and lungs, even though you just feel them on the skin, or see soars or similar. For Strongyloides and many other parasites the cure is primarily Albendazole, Thiebendazoel or a few other medicines. Read about the doses. The parasites can live in the earth for as long as one and a half month, many times. The house and the clothes must be desinfected (Cook the clothes, usa chlorin and boiling water when cleaning. Deworm your pets and wash them several times.
A warning; When ordering medicines: Avoid Canadian Health and care Mall !!! My medicines got delayed over TWO monthe , twice and they did not even try to make it rigt, just said "OK, Contact us if you have not recieved the medicin about ten Days": Totally mad! I actually used the once Before (but forgot about it) and then I did not even get my medicin).
SO, a warning: Do not use Canadian Health and care Mall !!!
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Canadian Health Care and Mall is actually a big scam operation out of Russia. There is tons of info about their scam operations on the internet. They may send you something and they may not and it's validity is questionable. They will use your email. Any credit card you used should be canceled and replaced.
Before you buy from anyone make sure there is a valid address and phone number that you can pin down.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...

Since: Jan 13

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#215 Jun 7, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
Shelley- they were thrips- they look like a lot of different bugs in their many stages of development- using Malathion now (very very sparingly) and they are dying off right now even with the microscopic amount of chemical I'm using.
How are you using it?
misery_in_au

Sydney, Australia

#216 Jun 7, 2013
Hi HG, basically just dipping a cotton wool bud or folded and rolled tissue into the bottle and dabbing the teeniest amount onto affected areas. Haven't even used a few millilitres its that strong.

very curious about your econazole nitrate - what is the product name. Suspect there may be fungal or bacterial involvement here as well.

Since: May 12

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#217 Jun 7, 2013
lotus_fan wrote:
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Misery, can you go and find a substantiated scientific article about thrips and how they infect humans to give the kind of symptoms you are experiencing? These drama websites like birdmites.org and anecdotes from people should be discredited as substantiated science. I did a search using "thrips", "humans" and "entomology" and sacnned about 10 entomolgy sites and found no evidence at all of this. Please if you can find any real evidence of this please post it here.
If you have some substantiated evidence I'd love tor read it.
misery_in_au

Toukley, Australia

#218 Jun 8, 2013
I will try to look for other infestations online. I did have a couple in my history- will take about a day to find. With so many hundreds of thousands of mites and the fact that we are in our infancy regarding any sort of parasitic infestation I think that doctors should at least listen and investigate. There are lots of medical anomalies that do not conform to the statistical norm, and parasitic infestation is a much-understudied realm.
misery_in_au

Toukley, Australia

#219 Jun 8, 2013
see on my malathion- possible cure thread for some links- found them quicker than expected in my history by using keyword search

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#224 Jun 12, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
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Yep I agree definitely other factors in conjunction with the bug life... thanx for the clarification of the name. And yes environment is a factor too- am still over-cleaning. Will try clove oil too- think I bought a small tube somewhere- unsure now if this is thrips. The characteristics all point towards it but recent anecdotal info suggests not- having some tests so will see what occurs.
Thrips and springtails look the same to me under a scope... except the adult thrips have wings. I've also considered thrips, but I know it doesn't really matter what they are - it's the fungus that's making me interesting to them, and killing them is basically the same. Fogging, soaking and anti-fungals is working for me.
lola

New York, NY

#225 Jun 13, 2013
Hi Shelly, THank you for your posts !
I have had this for years, spent thousands of dollars. My question to you is, what really worked in the end? I got the name of the enviromental sprays and what worked to get rid of them on your bodie? I have them insalely in my hair and have been on a candida diet for a year now. Is it just getting nyastatin and Arbone body wash, what about clothes? Have you rid yourself?

Since: May 12

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#226 Jun 13, 2013
lola wrote:
Hi Shelly, THank you for your posts !
I have had this for years, spent thousands of dollars. My question to you is, what really worked in the end? I got the name of the enviromental sprays and what worked to get rid of them on your bodie? I have them insalely in my hair and have been on a candida diet for a year now. Is it just getting nyastatin and Arbone body wash, what about clothes? Have you rid yourself?
Doctors will tell you that if you have treated that extensively and you still think you have mites then you are nuts. Doctors are wrong , you aren't nuts. But they are right when they say that the mites are dead. The supermite doesn't exist. What people end up with are infections that mic the symptoms of scabies very closely so they don't even recognize when the mites are gone because the symptoms of the infections that mites give you persist.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies
lola

New York, NY

#227 Jun 13, 2013
Shelly wrote:
Tried posting what has worked for us on a blog for collembola, but apparently the blogger refuses to approve my post... Whatever. So for anyone who is suffering from a collembola/springtail infestation, here is what works for the environment... Transport Mikron. You can buy it online from domyownpestcontrol... Mix 1.25 oz per gallon of water in a pump sprayer... Maybe $15 for the pump sprayer. We also used Martin's IGR every other week. One day, Transport... Exactly one week later, IGR... Repeat each a few times to be sure. Transport is a crack and crevice treatment, but we found it very effective when sprayed on all flooring, baseboards, windowsills, and inside lower cabinets. We lost nearly $30k during this nightmare, and if this bit of information saves someone else from doing the same, that's all I want. God only knows why a blogger who is going through the same thing would refuse to approve my post... Ammonia and borax in the wash... Blow up mattress... Arbonne body wash and the Salux Japanese wash cloths help. So do nystatin pills. Good luck!
Hi Shelly, THank you for your posts !
I have had this for years, spent thousands of dollars. My question to you is, what really worked in the end? I got the name of the enviromental sprays wondering what worked to get rid of them on your bodie? I have them insalely in my hair, have lost a lot of hair and have been on a candida diet for a year now. Is it just getting nyastatin from the dr and Arbone body wash, what about clothes? Have you been able to get rid of the collembola ?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#228 Jul 8, 2013
lola wrote:
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Hi Shelly, THank you for your posts !
I have had this for years, spent thousands of dollars. My question to you is, what really worked in the end? I got the name of the enviromental sprays wondering what worked to get rid of them on your bodie? I have them insalely in my hair, have lost a lot of hair and have been on a candida diet for a year now. Is it just getting nyastatin from the dr and Arbone body wash, what about clothes? Have you been able to get rid of the collembola ?
I got rid of them in my hair by using Ketoconazole shampoo... plus the anti-fungal pills... and some peppermint in my conditioner. You might also try Sulfur8 which you can get at the drug store.

Clothing is the real pain. I have to soak my clothes in vinegar (or PCO - expensive) for 24 hours before washing. I also found these blogs helpful
http://www.morgellonsandme.com/morgellons-and...
http://collembolahumantreatment.wordpress.com...
http://invisibleparasites.com/

It's great when you put on clothing and it doesn't crawl! Although I made the mistake of putting on something I dry cleaned months ago thinking it was safe... immediately I felt the pin pricks on my back so I took it off - too late! It's been 2 weeks and my back is starting to feel normal again. One infected piece of clothing and it's weeks of suffering. UGH!

I was hoping that Shelly would pop back in... I'm looking for other doctors who are treating collembola infestations... my derm wants to present about my case. He didn't believe me until he saw (through a magnifying glass no less!) a springtail crawl out of my skin and hop away!

Anyone who has a doc that believes them, let me know!
FRED

Golden, CO

#229 Jul 9, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
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I got rid of them in my hair by using Ketoconazole shampoo... plus the anti-fungal pills... and some peppermint in my conditioner. You might also try Sulfur8 which you can get at the drug store.
Clothing is the real pain. I have to soak my clothes in vinegar (or PCO - expensive) for 24 hours before washing. I also found these blogs helpful
http://www.morgellonsandme.com/morgellons-and...
http://collembolahumantreatment.wordpress.com...
http://invisibleparasites.com/
It's great when you put on clothing and it doesn't crawl! Although I made the mistake of putting on something I dry cleaned months ago thinking it was safe... immediately I felt the pin pricks on my back so I took it off - too late! It's been 2 weeks and my back is starting to feel normal again. One infected piece of clothing and it's weeks of suffering. UGH!
I was hoping that Shelly would pop back in... I'm looking for other doctors who are treating collembola infestations... my derm wants to present about my case. He didn't believe me until he saw (through a magnifying glass no less!) a springtail crawl out of my skin and hop away!
Anyone who has a doc that believes them, let me know!
Springtails don't infect humans period. You go to these stupid websites that are dramafests and present them as scientific fact, that is dumb.
Try using some real scientific studies not something written by Nancy Grace or someone selling something.

You actually haven't accomplished anything toward a real cure because you are completely lost about what is happening to you. You haven't accomplished anything except making these useless dram posts!, with a dumb amount of exclamation points!
fiaff

Hollywood, FL

#230 Jul 10, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Springtails don't infect humans period. You go to these stupid websites that are dramafests and present them as scientific fact, that is dumb.
Try using some real scientific studies not something written by Nancy Grace or someone selling something.
You actually haven't accomplished anything toward a real cure because you are completely lost about what is happening to you. You haven't accomplished anything except making these useless dram posts!, with a dumb amount of exclamation points!
Saying springtails don't infest humans is like saying mites don't carry co-infections. still calling everyone and anyone stupid and dumb?

Since: Jan 13

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#231 Jul 10, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Springtails don't infect humans period. You go to these stupid websites that are dramafests and present them as scientific fact, that is dumb.
I don't present anything as scientific fact - I'm telling someone what has helped me. You saying that springtails don't infect humans doesn't mean that I haven't seen them come out of my skin. I have a microscope. I'm not the only one who has experienced this. Just because you haven't, doesn't make you right Fred.
FRED wrote:
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Try using some real scientific studies not something written by Nancy Grace or someone selling something.
You mean like the world expert on collembola? http://46.18.32.69/~doehetzelf /publicat/sidney.htm

There. If you love PubMed so much there's a few studies there as well.
FRED wrote:
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You actually haven't accomplished anything toward a real cure because you are completely lost about what is happening to you. You haven't accomplished anything except making these useless dram posts!, with a dumb amount of exclamation points!
How would you know what I've accomplished? I have an 80% reduction in symptoms. Are you going to tell me that I don't? Now who is the dumb one?

I'm sure that the person I was talking to found the post useful. I wasn't talking to you FRED!

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#232 Jul 11, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
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I don't present anything as scientific fact - I'm telling someone what has helped me. You saying that springtails don't infect humans doesn't mean that I haven't seen them come out of my skin. I have a microscope. I'm not the only one who has experienced this. Just because you haven't, doesn't make you right Fred.
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You mean like the world expert on collembola? http://46.18.32.69/~doehetzelf /publicat/sidney.htm
There. If you love PubMed so much there's a few studies there as well.
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How would you know what I've accomplished? I have an 80% reduction in symptoms. Are you going to tell me that I don't? Now who is the dumb one?
I'm sure that the person I was talking to found the post useful. I wasn't talking to you FRED!
Your link doesn't work and this world expert is who? Go read some entomology studies on collembola not these drama sites that you are so fond of. Collembola only infest people if you are selling a cedar fogger or some nonsense like that.

READ SOME SCIENTIFICALLY SUBSTANTIATED ENTOMOLOGY RESEARCH.

You can get an 80% reduction in symptoms by rubbing tea tree oil all over your self , it is meaningless.

Morgellons isn't an infection of your closet, it's a collection of infections inside you, doing your laundry a certain way is meaningless.

Your dermatologist is either lying, humoring you or is the typical uninformed derm that just doesn't know very much.

Thanks for coming here to brag about still being infected though, you and hollywood make a good pair with your stupid laundry tips.

You haven't accomplished anything and I am talking to you.
bdnisv

Hollywood, FL

#233 Jul 12, 2013
lotus_fan wrote:
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Your link doesn't work and this world expert is who? Go read some entomology studies on collembola not these drama sites that you are so fond of. Collembola only infest people if you are selling a cedar fogger or some nonsense like that.
READ SOME SCIENTIFICALLY SUBSTANTIATED ENTOMOLOGY RESEARCH.
You can get an 80% reduction in symptoms by rubbing tea tree oil all over your self , it is meaningless.
Morgellons isn't an infection of your closet, it's a collection of infections inside you, doing your laundry a certain way is meaningless.
Your dermatologist is either lying, humoring you or is the typical uninformed derm that just doesn't know very much.
Thanks for coming here to brag about still being infected though, you and hollywood make a good pair with your stupid laundry tips.
You haven't accomplished anything and I am talking to you.
Although you can research better than most people here on this forum, it doesn't mean you can belittle everyone that comes here.

Remember Fred Lotus Fan Fcface, you NEVER EVEN HAD SCABIES. You have been belittling and degrading people ever since you first started here on this forum.

Although some people may get help from your herb protocol, it doesn't mean that you are helping people with

SCABIES

BIRD MITES

RODENT MITES

PSOROPTES MITES

COLLEMBOLA MITES

yes, people DO NEED help cleaning their environment. they do come here with not much knowledge on how to handle a persistent case of mites. they actually do need help with laundry, meds, environmental cleaning.

Just because you are studying lyme and morgellons and bartonella doesn't mean that you can belittle people who are coming here for help.

You have never had scabies. you have some type of infection going on in your body. You have hyjacked this entire forum to serve YOUR needs, and have posted things you have learned along the way.

taking leaf powder for bartonella doesn't help someone coming here who has contracted a mite that is difficult to get rid of. calling people stupid, dumb doesn't help anyone.

you cannot continue to hijack an entire forum to serve your own special needs. This is NOT A MORGELLONS FORUM. You don't have scabies and never will.

You can't hijack a morgellons forum on topix, because there is none. maybe you can focus on convincing the administrators of this website to start one. As much energy that you have put into studying this, and making yourself the guru of this disease, then surely you can convince them of this. Why don't you start a group of some sort on the net for morgellons and related co-infections. Your energy would be well spent.

I saw on the lyme forum here on topix that you posted and said exactly this. you said that you do not want to take antibiotics for the rest of your life for lyme, that you are looking for help with lyme. No one ever responded to your post there, because that forum is not very active. What you did was hijack a very active forum to serve your personal needs. It doesn't work like that.

This is not a lyme forum fred. this is a scabies forum. you don't know how to treat scabies BECAUSE YOU NEVER HAD IT. You don't know what it is like to have these mites. you only know how to treat your symptoms. you can't treat others here.
Mel007

Sydney, Australia

#234 Jul 14, 2013
I don't need to read more rubbish from idiots declaring springtails don't infest humans. I know they do because I'm living proof. Reading posts by other sufferers has helped me struggle through the past year, so if you just wanna abuse people go down your local pub and stop reading these posts.
Idk what I would've done without reading about others in my circumstance.

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