Collembola/Springtails
FRED

Golden, CO

#189 May 3, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
Yes - please stick to giving information instead of fighting. It's not helping anyone.
I think I have springtails now too... first I thought it was scabies... but last week I bombed my car with 12% perm before a road trip and after 4 hours in the car my kid (who hasn't gotten them except one or two crawling/itching/biting moments) complained of pinpricks and crawling on his legs. Same thing on the way home. Thank God he's easily cured with herbal oils.
I had covered myself in perm for the drive up, taken iver (along with all the herbal supplements), and bombed the house before we left. Now I'm right back to square one. And I do get bites in the kitchen and bathroom on my legs.
Crap. I so can't move. And the poisons sound poisonous. And the DM everywhere sounds like an asthma attack. Ugh.
It's going on 5 months for me. So depressing.
You should go to an infectious disease specialist and get a proper diagnosis. Your kid will be proud of you for making the right decision down the road.
If your skin scraping comes back negative then there are other tests Like the western blot that will reveal your condition.

Also taking organic clove capsules kills eggs and mites, it takes a couple weeks to build up in your skin, take 12-16 every day , 4 or 5 after meals. Take them for a month. If you still have "mites" after that then you should definitely go to an infectious disease specialist.

Since: Jan 13

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#190 May 3, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
Yes - please stick to giving information instead of fighting. It's not helping anyone.
I think I have springtails now too... first I thought it was scabies... but last week I bombed my car with 12% perm before a road trip and after 4 hours in the car my kid (who hasn't gotten them except one or two crawling/itching/biting moments) complained of pinpricks and crawling on his legs. Same thing on the way home. Thank God he's easily cured with herbal oils.
I had covered myself in perm for the drive up, taken iver (along with all the herbal supplements), and bombed the house before we left. Now I'm right back to square one. And I do get bites in the kitchen and bathroom on my legs.
Crap. I so can't move. And the poisons sound poisonous. And the DM everywhere sounds like an asthma attack. Ugh.
It's going on 5 months for me. So depressing.
Do you think you might have a bird mite infestation? Did you check around the house to see if you have any nests? Bird mites are usually in the bathrooms. Also many bird mite suffers always say they can feel them biting when they enter a certain room. I know it's depressing. Keep fighting for you and your baby. I know how fustrating it is each time you treat hoping that this will be it.

Since: Jan 13

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#191 May 3, 2013
I think these are springtails since they're bigger... they look like a really little flea.

I live in a basement - which apparently is their favorite habitat. I'm going to try the house cleaning regime from this guy http://www.invisibleparasites.com/ #

I like that he doesn't give a crap what bug they are.

I think that I got scabies, the springtails perked up and started biting me, and either/or gave me secondary infections - fungal, nematode, whatever.
FRED

Golden, CO

#192 May 4, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
I think these are springtails since they're bigger... they look like a really little flea.
I live in a basement - which apparently is their favorite habitat. I'm going to try the house cleaning regime from this guy http://www.invisibleparasites.com/ #
I like that he doesn't give a crap what bug they are.
I think that I got scabies, the springtails perked up and started biting me, and either/or gave me secondary infections - fungal, nematode, whatever.
Do you have a 40x or 60x eye loupe? if not you can get a cheap microscope or something like that on ebay. 60x is a good mag to use, with that you'll be able to see exactly what they are.
Mitey-sad

New York, NY

#193 May 4, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Do you have a 40x or 60x eye loupe? if not you can get a cheap microscope or something like that on ebay. 60x is a good mag to use, with that you'll be able to see exactly what they are.
I agree with Fred Hungry Ghost. Find out what mite you are fighting. They all have different life cycles and can not be killed the same.

Since: Jan 13

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#194 May 4, 2013
I just got a 100X microscope... two definitely look like bugs (rather than keratin fibers) but I'm having a hard time getting them without destroying their legs!
Mitey-sad

New York, NY

#195 May 4, 2013
That good! At least you are able to see the bug, does it look like springtails?
FRED

Golden, CO

#196 May 5, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
I just got a 100X microscope... two definitely look like bugs (rather than keratin fibers) but I'm having a hard time getting them without destroying their legs!
Bear in mind that the fibers actually wind themselves into tight little balls that very closely resemble mites. This next link explains how the "black specks" are actually very tight wound up fiber balls. Also once the fibers are wound up they get coated with collagen so you'll have to scrutinize these closely.

http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

Since: Jan 13

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#197 May 5, 2013
Oh yeah... I saw threads... even blue and red ones. But I was expecting that, and I'm doing the co-infection treatment for the "Borrelial Dermatitis". I'm not really worried about Morgellons.

What I was looking for was springtails, and I found them!

I have yet to get a perfect picture of one, but I saw a nymph that came out of my hand, white with black eyes... unfortunately in removing him I mangled his butt badly. And a juvenile I caught on a glue trap... but his antennae were missing, so I think what happened is he walked up to the glue trap, his anntenae got stuck, he took a step forward and his antennae went under him. At first I didn't think it was a collembola, because he had a weirdly shaped head, and more round body... but lo! There are collembola with weirdly shaped heads and rounder bodies!

If I get a perfect picture I'll post it. I can't sample the ones I take off my body, I completely mangle them in the process. If I could I would send one to http://delusion.ucdavis.edu/ - I really hate doctors/scientists who say something is a delusion. All those poor Morgellons folks. Makes me mad.
FRED

Golden, CO

#198 May 6, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
Oh yeah... I saw threads... even blue and red ones. But I was expecting that, and I'm doing the co-infection treatment for the "Borrelial Dermatitis". I'm not really worried about Morgellons.
What I was looking for was springtails, and I found them!
I have yet to get a perfect picture of one, but I saw a nymph that came out of my hand, white with black eyes... unfortunately in removing him I mangled his butt badly. And a juvenile I caught on a glue trap... but his antennae were missing, so I think what happened is he walked up to the glue trap, his anntenae got stuck, he took a step forward and his antennae went under him. At first I didn't think it was a collembola, because he had a weirdly shaped head, and more round body... but lo! There are collembola with weirdly shaped heads and rounder bodies!
If I get a perfect picture I'll post it. I can't sample the ones I take off my body, I completely mangle them in the process. If I could I would send one to http://delusion.ucdavis.edu/ - I really hate doctors/scientists who say something is a delusion. All those poor Morgellons folks. Makes me mad.
I have a microscope too and it took a while to realize that what I was looking at wasn't mites. The fibers roll themselves up into tiny little tapered cylinders then coat themselves with collagen somehow and look just like solid tiny bodies of insects, at least they did in my case. To say you your not worried about morgellons only means that you don't understand it. You clearly have it. You may have mites as well. Morgellons is not a skin disease , it's symptoms just show up on the skin but it grows throughout the body.

Why don't you get the best pictures of what you have and post them, I would love to see them.

In the mean time you can get rid of any mites you do have by taking clove capsules. You have to take 12-15 a day, 4-5 after meals. Take them for a month. In a couple weeks the clove will start to build up in your skin so much that you will feel this weird coolness. The mites hate it and it kills them and their eggs but won't hurt you. I know this worked for 4 different people on this forum. "Fightingheretoo" made her own clove capsules from cloves she bought at mountainrose herbs and said they were very powerful. You can buy something like this though at the health store. Borax in the carpets and borax in the laundry. Borax is all you need although some people put enough stuff in the laundry where it sounds like they are making rocket fuel in the washing machine.

http://www.oregonswildharvest.com/owh/browse/...

To put it in perspective , mites aren't that hard to get rid of but a certain Phd microbiologist who was also a nobel prize nominee and has been working with morgellons called it an intractable disease. I don't accept that notion though but treating morgellons takes a year and you have to do it with varied strategies.
Iittle specks

Concord, CA

#199 May 6, 2013
You should get a 500x microscopic camera.
With a 60 or 70x magnification you will be still unsure if what you're looking at is a bug or fibers rolled up in a micro-ball, so don't waste your money and time on something that does not answer your questions. 500x magnification or higher is the way to go. Also, a microscopic camera is easier to use than a regular microscope.

On another page, resistant strains of scabies are a reality certified by many research studies.
In many studies researchers found resistance to both, permethrin and ivermectin. We cannot ignore that and should advocate for new studies to find new medications.

Since: Jan 13

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#200 May 6, 2013
FRED wrote:
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To say you your not worried about morgellons only means that you don't understand it. You clearly have it. You may have mites as well.
FRED - I'm not worried about Morgellons. Don't tell me what you could not possibly know in a billion years. I understand it. I may or may not have it. I don't need to worry about it. What I need to worry about is my leaky basement and the tiny bugs I have found coming out of my skin.

And the ARE springtails. I found two excellent examples on a glue board, and I definitely don't need 500x - they aren't as small as scabies. I could see it remarkably well... one is dessicated and I can see what he had for lunch. Legs, anntenae, head, tail... and the other is a bit of side view.

I'm annoyed that it's not a simple problem like Morgellons where you just change your diet and take a bunch of suppliments (which I already do). Eradicating them is apparently a pain.

Since: Jan 13

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#201 May 6, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Why don't you get the best pictures of what you have and post them, I would love to see them.
In the mean time you can get rid of any mites you do have by taking clove capsules.
I will... but the microscope I have is handheld through the tv (a kid's toy!) and it's to hard to hold the scope stead and take a photo of the HEXAPOD (not a mite) on the tv.

And since it's a springtail, clove won't work. It's not biting my blood. Clove in conjunction with other anti-fungals (pau d'arco, oregano etc) will help rid me of the fungus that they eat, but it will not kill them. And I'm taking those. And I'm going to get some allopathic meds because I like to fire all my guns at once.
Mitey-sad

New York, NY

#202 May 7, 2013
HG how do you get springtails out of your skin? Are you able to move out? So they have burrowed under your skin? It's crazy you read that springtails don't do that obviously that's not true. What are the symptoms they are giving you?

Since: Jan 13

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#204 May 8, 2013
WHOA!

I just put Econazole Nitrate on my body for the first time and literally HUNDREDS if not thousands of black specs came out of my skin. And not just specs... the bigger ones are the size of small fleas.

Can't wait to get these under a microscope.... doesn't matter if they're bugs, or fungus or fibers... better out than in!

They exited with all sorts of sensations - from nothing to sharp pin pricks... but it's the first time they left without ANY rubbing other that the initial application of the cream. Usually I get a pin prick, rub, and see the spec. This time it was of their own accord.

Still a few sensations an hour later, but much less. I wonder what tomorrow with bring!
Mitey-sad

New York, NY

#205 May 8, 2013
Let us know what the black specks are. Did you doc rx the med?

Since: Jan 13

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#206 May 11, 2013
Mitey-sad wrote:
Let us know what the black specks are. Did you doc rx the med?
It's definitely a fungus.

Fred would say it's morgellons, since it looks like fibers, but since it's being cured with anti-fungal meds (and not just Econazole... I also got oral Lamasil, Nystatin, and Ketoconazole shampoo - I don't do anything halfway), then it's a fungus/yeast.

The caveat is that there are several things in the samples which definitely look buggie - but those are all tannish. My experience is that pin pricks yielded black specs, but crawlies yielded white larvae things or tan nymphs. Perhaps these are the bugs... I need to capture more to be certain.

But the black specs are "fibers"... however according to her they were ID'd as a kind of malassezia yeast by scientist (although most malassezia strains cause harmless things like dandruff and tinea versicolor) and mine look like hers under a scope. http://malassezia-yeast-mystory.blogspot.com....
FRED

Golden, CO

#207 May 11, 2013
Mitey-sad wrote:
Let us know what the black specks are. Did you doc rx the med?
I would tend to agree with top level researchers , Peter Mayne, John S English, Edward J Kilbane, Jennie M Burke, Marianne J Middelveen1, Raphael B Stricker, who have extensive labratory facilities at their disposal rather than some half baked hypothesis founded on narrow research.

http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

"Figure 5. A "black speck" removed from the skin in Morgellons disease is red and magnified 500x."

The above article i posted is only a month old and is done by credible respected scientists , it's not someones blog, there is a big difference.
Mitey-sad

New York, NY

#208 May 11, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
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It's definitely a fungus.
Fred would say it's morgellons, since it looks like fibers, but since it's being cured with anti-fungal meds (and not just Econazole... I also got oral Lamasil, Nystatin, and Ketoconazole shampoo - I don't do anything halfway), then it's a fungus/yeast.
The caveat is that there are several things in the samples which definitely look buggie - but those are all tannish. My experience is that pin pricks yielded black specs, but crawlies yielded white larvae things or tan nymphs. Perhaps these are the bugs... I need to capture more to be certain.
But the black specs are "fibers"... however according to her they were ID'd as a kind of malassezia yeast by scientist (although most malassezia strains cause harmless things like dandruff and tinea versicolor) and mine look like hers under a scope. http://malassezia-yeast-mystory.blogspot.com....
So you have fungus and bugs? I know you were saying springtails? It's great that you were able to get the meds from your doc. My doc would laugh and say no you don't have fungus. Are the meds providing you with relief? I checked out the blog you posted her story was interesting. So the fibers you have seen are just black? I like seeing your posts so please keep us updated on your road to recovery.

Since: Jan 13

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#209 May 12, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
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It's definitely a fungus.
Fred would say it's morgellons, since it looks like fibers, but since it's being cured with anti-fungal meds (and not just Econazole... I also got oral Lamasil, Nystatin, and Ketoconazole shampoo - I don't do anything halfway), then it's a fungus/yeast.
The caveat is that there are several things in the samples which definitely look buggie - but those are all tannish. My experience is that pin pricks yielded black specs, but crawlies yielded white larvae things or tan nymphs. Perhaps these are the bugs... I need to capture more to be certain.
But the black specs are "fibers"... however according to her they were ID'd as a kind of malassezia yeast by scientist (although most malassezia strains cause harmless things like dandruff and tinea versicolor) and mine look like hers under a scope. http://malassezia-yeast-mystory.blogspot.com....
Hey HG how are you feeling after taking the meds you listed?

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