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It keeps coming back. Starting to become really worried. 6 mos.

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#1 Jan 28, 2014
Hi everyone, been reading this forum for a couple of mos. when I can and when I'm not washing my clothes, bedding or posioning myself w/ permethrin (hope not). ha ha funny and yet not.:( I think I contracted scabies around 6 mos. ago summer of 2013. I had been mowing the lawn a lot that summer in cropped jeans and I thought it was poison ivy at first. But now, I'm starting to think I may have got it from my daughter who had been staying at a hotel while she worked on a short film. Also she is the one that is sexually active so it may have nothing to do with the hotel but who knows for sure? Or I contracted it from working in the yard and I gave it to her we can't figure it out. But we both have scabies and I have also passed it to my Mom who is in her 70's and I'm her caregiver. Thankfully my Mom's in not bad because I was able to recognize scabies quickly by the time it showed up on my Mom and I've been able to keep hers in check but not eliminate it as it keeps coming back on her too. I have used a lot of tubes of Permethrin cream, the brand of mine is Lyclear, that I (My father) ordered online on ebay because it's cheap on there and I don't have to go see a dr. because I'm a caregiver and I don't have money to see a dr. and truthfully from what I read on this forum, these dr.s haven't seemed like they don't know much more than just reading about it yourself and self-diagnosing. My daughter thinks we should go to the dr. and see if there is a pill we can take since I guess she heard me mention that there is a prescription for Ivermectin or whatever it is everyone is talking about on here. But I have a feeling I could still get it from my environment. I have done about 5 total body treatments of permethrin and spot treat in between those and it keeps coming back. The permethrin lotion will get rid of the spots but it comes back and always reappears somewhere else nearby. The favorite places it likes to attack me at are my ankles and forearms. So I am wondering if I am getting reinfected by my socks and shoes or my clothing. The latest of tactics I used was to buy the plastic mattress covers that zip around your mattress and I bought the pillow ones too. And I also have been washing and drying my bedding on hot dryer for like an hour. Not everyday but about every 3 days. My head has been itchy and I don't know if it's scabies or dry scalp. I think it's scabies because I've never had such an itchy scalp. I just don't know how you can live almost a half a century without contracting scabies and then get it and can't get rid of it?? I don't think my immune system is compromised, I've been really healthy and haven't been sick in a very long time. And also my daughter who is half my age has the scabies returning on her too. I do wonder if she is the one who keeps passing it back to me though? Because she is still sleeping with her bf and sleeping over at her girlfriend's house but she says none of them have it. I have never been officially diagnosed with scabies but i recognized it from the tunnels they make and also from the fact that it won't go away permanently but permethrin cream will work on it and the red patches do go away but come back in other areas and they itch but I never scratch them no matter how itchy they become I just spot treat with Lyclear and tough it out. I guess my next move is to bag up the rest of my clothing because I have put plastic bags on my computer chair and bagged up the bed with that mattress cover. Just can't believe this stuff. I'm so worried I'm going to give it to others. My Dad says he doesn't have it. Thankfully he and I aren't sharing a computer anymore and I have my own. Oh another thing is I wear disposable latex gloves for the better part of the day because I don't want to pass this to my family anymore than I already have or reinfect them. Just got another package of 4 tubes of Permethrin in the mail today that my Dad bought. I'm so worried about what this stuff is doing to me.:(
bran0406

London, KY

#2 Jan 28, 2014
stop using permethrin! does nothing! i posted on several threads in details.. we used dawn dish liquid initially, and borax in laundry with arm and hammer detergent.. its not easy getting them out of home and everything, but possible! check out the thread scabies, psoriasis, any... and i will try and help what i can. there are many good ideas on here people have come up with, but try to use least amount of chemicals/drugs, effects in long run could potentially be a lot worse! also, antihistamines help tremendously with reactions, but even if symptoms goes away w antihistamines, the mites haven't.. also, many don't show symptoms like they say within couple months, we never did in 8 months, only our baby! killing them off your body does make you more sensitive when coming in contact w them again.. so if your reactions keep getting worse, it is good sign you are actually killing them off your body.. just need to find the source that keeps bringing them back..
Janadel

Spring Valley, CA

#3 Jan 28, 2014
Ihateuscabies wrote:
Hi everyone, been reading this forum for a couple of mos. when I can and when I'm not washing my clothes,.....:(
Hi, I can't give you any sure fire answers, but I can give you some ideas and suggestions. I learned a lot from Bran0406...but one thing that I did that really helped that Bran0406 got me started on, was I wash heat to toe, 2xs a day with Dawn dish soap. What I do different than Bran0406 is that I put it all over my dry skin before I get into the shower, so I'm coated with it head to toe.I also wear Crock like shoes, all the time that I got on eBay (but much cheaper than Crocks), so I wear them into the shower to clean them off at the same time I'm showering. Once in the shower I use a bath brush all over then rinse and then I use Head and Shoulders, menthol for men (reason I use that is I've read these mites don't like menthol and from my experience that is true) After I lather up with the Head and Shoulders, head to toe and rinse, Then I condition my hair with Loreal deep conditioner. Then I'm done this part and I dry off with paper towels (A tip I leaned on here) and then cover myself with hand sanitizer (which is 62% alcohol ( in case any mites are still one me an somehow still alive) and when it dries I put on all over my body Olive Oil then on top of that I put Alveno lotion. Yes I'm pretty greasy by then, but I also end up with eggs coming out of my skin...here and there ( I guess the mites have been smothered and the Head and Shoulders and the Dawn is drawing out the eggs) Long and short of it, since I've been using the Dawn and changing my bedding daily and my cloths every 12 hrs and spraying my environment every 12 hrs with 91% Isopropyl alcohol. I'd say I'm 60% better than I was 3 weeks ago.(BTW I sleep on the couch which is totally covered with 3 mil plastic you can get at Walmart, 10' x 25' for about $11). No I'm not cured yet and I'm still working on it, but I'm better. As for your daughter..have you heard of tough love? Maybe it's time for a little of that. I had to tell my husband either he got on board and helped and supported me or I was going to a hotel and leave him here to deal with this entire mess....Dont' you you know that he changed his tune within 15 min and said he'd do whatever he could to help and asked me what to do....my answer was simple..when he comes in from work to take off all his cloths, bag them and take a shower and wash head to toe with Head and Shoulder and I'd be happy with that...for now..All I'm saying is maybe you need to be a bit firmer with those around you and maybe that will help...if nothing else taking control and possibly setting up some new rules might make you feel more in control and right now. Not feeling helpless is really important for your mental stability. Feeling mentally stable and that you can beat this, is ultra important right now...don't let it ever get you down...come here and get support and gather strength...you can do this...you just have to make up your mind that you are not going to let this defeat you...OK?
Janadel

Spring Valley, CA

#4 Jan 28, 2014
Opps..I said 60% better...that should have been 80% better!

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#6 Jan 30, 2014
Thank you bran0406 for replying. I will get some borax and arm and hammer detergent. I am really afraid to stop using permethrin though because when I don't spot treat as they come up they spread and I see more raised areas that are pink then when I get my new permethrin they fight them back again. I'm convinced I can't keep them off of me long enough because my daughter just told me that hers hasn't come back and I think it's because she has been staying at her bf's house which is something new she wasn't doing before, she was staying at her bff's house and yes I hope to god she hasn't given them scabies. She says they don't have it but I told her it takes time to show up but it has been 6 months and she said nobody is itching, scratching or complaining of scratching at the bff's house. I'm starting to think, I was reinfecting my daughter and she was reinfecting me for awhile. And now that she told me hers hasn't come back, I think it's my socks and clothing. I plan on wearing some flip flops and no socks even though it's winter. Right now I'm typing this wearing latex gloves and some metallic gladiator sandals just because I haven't worn these shoes since summer and don't want to put back on my house shoes or my flats for fear that I am reinfecting myself. Thank you so much for your reply, it means a lot.
bran0406 wrote:
stop using permethrin! does nothing! i posted on several threads in details.. we used dawn dish liquid initially, and borax in laundry with arm and hammer detergent.. its not easy getting them out of home and everything, but possible! check out the thread scabies, psoriasis, any... and i will try and help what i can. there are many good ideas on here people have come up with, but try to use least amount of chemicals/drugs, effects in long run could potentially be a lot worse! also, antihistamines help tremendously with reactions, but even if symptoms goes away w antihistamines, the mites haven't.. also, many don't show symptoms like they say within couple months, we never did in 8 months, only our baby! killing them off your body does make you more sensitive when coming in contact w them again.. so if your reactions keep getting worse, it is good sign you are actually killing them off your body.. just need to find the source that keeps bringing them back..

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#7 Jan 30, 2014
Thank you for your reply Janadel, you and Bran have been very kind to reply. I know there is a lot of info on this scabies forum and I have read so much but I feel that each person's situation is slightly unique for reinfection and someone may have insight for what is going on with that particular person based on the info they gave. Okay, I really like the idea for the crock like shoes, I'm convinced I'm getting reinfected from my socks and shoes no matter how many times I have washed and dried them. And I think you are right about menthol, I asked my Dad if he contracted scabies from me yet and he said he had an itchy red spot but he put vicks vabor rub on his and it went away. I ask him if he has had anymore spots but he says no, I still think I should ask to inspect his back though because he said it's been itchy but it may just be because he's a man and needs to have my Mom put some lotion on his back. lol I'm a caregiver to both of them. I also need to put some plastic on our leather couch or a sheet, I keep sitting there in that same spot. Since I've had it 6 mos there is no telling where all these scabies are. I need some head and shoulders too, will buy that at your suggestion. I wonder if I should lysol wipe or alchohol wipe my wall near the bed and my bed frame? I also need to bag up more clothes. I have bagged some of them but not all of them. And yes I will use paper towels after a shower, excellent idea. I was thinking of throwing away my towel and getting a new one but I could easily reinfect a new one. I love the paper towel idea, maybe my towels are the biggest culprit! Hopefully this process of elimination will help. Once again thank you for sharing your insight into my situation and thanks to bran too.
Janadel wrote:
Opps..I said 60% better...that should have been 80% better!
bran0406

London, KY

#9 Jan 30, 2014
and please update me on you alls progress! antihistamines too, daily!
bran0406

London, KY

#10 Jan 30, 2014
i am on a mission to cure as many people as possible as safely as possible! we got rid of these, our problem has been keeping them out!
wantmylifeback

Dover Plains, NY

#11 Jan 30, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
i am on a mission to cure as many people as possible as safely as possible! we got rid of these, our problem has been keeping them out!
Hello bran0406 I have bee using the Advantix II treatment for dogs for the past week in a half. I'm still getting some rashes but they seem to come an go. I still have the crawling sensations but I have a searing burning sensation that I seem to get in the evening around dinner time. It seems to come and go but mostly at night. I have not noticed any new burrows but did notice the black pepper like specs coming off my skin. Now, I'm wondering if I still have active scabies because of the constant burning sensation and black specs. I had this burning sensation and black specs PRIOR to using the Advantix II. What do you think? I['m sooo upset.

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#12 Jan 31, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
and please update me on you alls progress! antihistamines too, daily!
Well bran even though you said to stop using permethrin cream, I couldn't help myself. Last night I put the Lyclear creme all over every square inch of my body, I even put a little on my scalp and slept in a bed that I washed the mattress pad, sheet and blanket in hot water and dried for an hour. I didn't wash them in the same load btw. I'm wearing a new pair of sandals than what I was wearing yesterday because I'm trying to rotate my shoes. My scalp doesn't feel as itchy as it has been. It must be scabies on my scalp if the Lyclear (permethrin cream) can calm it down like that and not dry scalp, like I thought or was hoping it was. I'm not saying the Lyclear will make it stay gone for good but it does seem to be telling me it's scabies on my scalp. Not itchy today, no new spots, but that doesn't mean they are not coming back. I haven't had a chance to buy the head and shoulders yet. I'm going to try to buy some this weekend. Daughter came back home and her hands had some red areas on them, I wondered if it was scabies and asked her to please put the Lyclear creme on her hands just in case to be on the safe side. My daughter saw the red blotches and asked if that was scabies again and I said yes. You know, how they become redder after permethrin creme is applied before they go away? That's what mine looked like bright red. I still haven't showered yet because I want the permethrin cream to work as long as it can. Probably isn't good for you but, I think when I first treated this stuff w/ permethrin cream 6 mos. ago I didn't leave it on long enough. I showered it off the next day after about 8 hours. I'm wondering if I should do another permethrin cream all over in 3 more days or just spot treat again. I feel like doing an all over cream again because I have never done two treatments close together because I never had enough of the cream to do this but now I do. I've read on here that some people wait a week and do the cream all over but I've wondered if that is waiting too long. Wondering when the ideal time is to retreat for the life cycle of the eggs that hatch, 3 days or 1 week? Other than the red blotches on my daughter's hands which could be just redness and dryness and not scabies it appears that not spending time in our house got rid of her scabies.
bran0406

London, KY

#13 Jan 31, 2014
wantmylifeback wrote:
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Hello bran0406 I have bee using the Advantix II treatment for dogs for the past week in a half. I'm still getting some rashes but they seem to come an go. I still have the crawling sensations but I have a searing burning sensation that I seem to get in the evening around dinner time. It seems to come and go but mostly at night. I have not noticed any new burrows but did notice the black pepper like specs coming off my skin. Now, I'm wondering if I still have active scabies because of the constant burning sensation and black specs. I had this burning sensation and black specs PRIOR to using the Advantix II. What do you think? I['m sooo upset.
not sure if that works, or how safe it is.. coat your skin in olive oil, virgin, real thick, head to toe in bathroom, mix up bottle of vinegar/water 50/50 with little borax, spray everything in bathroom while u have oil on, just not urself,, it takes anywhere from 10 to 30 mins, it brings these to surface, but doesn't kill. we do that, then get in bath water with like 4 to 5 capfuls of bleach and dawn, gage ur skin sensitivity and such, but we do this with our 10 month old and 7 yo too.. these i really think have adapted, evolved, changed, however you want to word it, for their survival. i think many people tend to not show symptoms for a lot longer. we were absolutely covered and didn't at all until we killed them off of us, no we are literally like detectors to these. i also truly believe they jump now, i was at health dept waiting to get these identified, i didn't sit in the chairs cause i knew how bad we got ate up with these at dr office, and girl come in, i started to move away, seriously have become that worried about this, n could of swore i felt one on my neck! i went outside to call my husband, told him hopefully it was just in my head, by time i got home i had huge scratch across back of my neck from it! i swear! i wouldn't believe the stuff we have learned if i hadn't seen w my own eyes! yes, people carry these without symptoms now! symptoms are different than what cdc has, and they get worse when u are actually killing them off you! i am constantly calling state dept of health, wearing them out with this, as well as the military, cdc, they have to do new studies very soon! their info is outdated as well as their treatments. like any allergen, everyone reacts differently. ur reactions to these are allergy based, allergic reactions, antihistamines help tremendously! we all have to start wearing our officials out and demanding action to get a change! i know i sound crazy, but i know i am right! i have been responding on cell phone, lol, many times in gloves, hard to do, but i will get on computer, try to real soon, and type out detailed instructions on what we did to clear our environment. we are no where in the clear tho, cause of how bad these have spread.. i am hoping the black walnuts, eating some every day really works for us.. i ordered 4 lbs today! should be here by Monday. i swear as long as we have no outside contact, we have none, but i know that is completely not feasible! it is a very scary thought if these become capable of transmitting diseases, which could happen, that is how the black plague spread, fleas from rats.. our officials and public health workers have to start taking action!
bran0406

London, KY

#14 Jan 31, 2014
Janadel wrote:
<quoted text> Hi, I can't give you any sure fire answers, but I can give you some ideas and suggestions. I learned a lot from Bran0406...but one thing that I did that really helped that Bran0406 got me started on, was I wash heat to toe, 2xs a day with Dawn dish soap. What I do different than Bran0406 is that I put it all over my dry skin before I get into the shower, so I'm coated with it head to toe.I also wear Crock like shoes, all the time that I got on eBay (but much cheaper than Crocks), so I wear them into the shower to clean them off at the same time I'm showering. Once in the shower I use a bath brush all over then rinse and then I use Head and Shoulders, menthol for men (reason I use that is I've read these mites don't like menthol and from my experience that is true) After I lather up with the Head and Shoulders, head to toe and rinse, Then I condition my hair with Loreal deep conditioner. Then I'm done this part and I dry off with paper towels (A tip I leaned on here) and then cover myself with hand sanitizer (which is 62% alcohol ( in case any mites are still one me an somehow still alive) and when it dries I put on all over my body Olive Oil then on top of that I put Alveno lotion. Yes I'm pretty greasy by then, but I also end up with eggs coming out of my skin...here and there ( I guess the mites have been smothered and the Head and Shoulders and the Dawn is drawing out the eggs) Long and short of it, since I've been using the Dawn and changing my bedding daily and my cloths every 12 hrs and spraying my environment every 12 hrs with 91% Isopropyl alcohol. I'd say I'm 60% better than I was 3 weeks ago.(BTW I sleep on the couch which is totally covered with 3 mil plastic you can get at Walmart, 10' x 25' for about $11). No I'm not cured yet and I'm still working on it, but I'm better. As for your daughter..have you heard of tough love? Maybe it's time for a little of that. I had to tell my husband either he got on board and helped and supported me or I was going to a hotel and leave him here to deal with this entire mess....Dont' you you know that he changed his tune within 15 min and said he'd do whatever he could to help and asked me what to do....my answer was simple..when he comes in from work to take off all his cloths, bag them and take a shower and wash head to toe with Head and Shoulder and I'd be happy with that...for now..All I'm saying is maybe you need to be a bit firmer with those around you and maybe that will help...if nothing else taking control and possibly setting up some new rules might make you feel more in control and right now. Not feeling helpless is really important for your mental stability. Feeling mentally stable and that you can beat this, is ultra important right now...don't let it ever get you down...come here and get support and gather strength...you can do this...you just have to make up your mind that you are not going to let this defeat you...OK?
you are so right! been trying to get update from you :) hope all is getting better! would love to hear from you!
bran0406

London, KY

#15 Jan 31, 2014
i know you start to feel crazy, or think its just u cause seems no one else is showing symptoms.. we seriously showed no symptoms, had them 8 months, absolutely covered, and had no itching or anything! our baby had only few little red tiny dots on him at any given time, one would assume he just had a few.. u can use white lotion and black light to see these, we were absolutely ate up! his symptoms would not have been really linked to a mite, runny nose for months, cough, ear infection that would clear, and severe allergic reactions to things, dairy particularly.. all that has cleared finally, and no reactions to straight milk! i tested that just 4 days of having these off of us, of course w Benadryl readily available, and nothing! no reaction whatsoever! before any type dairy product, even toaster strudel, would literally blister his mouth and body start turning red! very scary! we about instantly get what looks like paper cuts as soon as coming into contact, n i know these were brought here 8 months ago when my sister and baby moved in with us from Missouri.. they have literally spread that easy and quickly.. if people we been around doesn't take me seriously and at least use black light, like janadel said, get tough, we avoid them, grandparents and all family included. everyone is currently banned from our house! i ain't even playing! this has become a very drastic situation for us! i will be going to media probably in about a week with all evidence i have gathered thus far, and get their help.. also kinda waiting on outbreak at hospital too, tho i have spoke w infectious control nurse there already.. i know how crazy this really sounds, but i know i am right, and will do what i have to to protect my family!

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#16 Feb 1, 2014
Day 2 post permethrin cream (Lyclear) full body treatment , no new raised pink areas so far on second day after treatment, which is how scabies presents itself on me at first, then some of the areas become tunnels. I want to stress I have done full body treatments in the past but didn't retreat after a week, that's why I'm thinking about retreating within a week of this first full body treatment. Did that make sense? Did not wash the bedding after the treatment, I had washed everything the day of treatment, probably should have but I'm so sick of washing the bedding only to break out again even when I have washed the bedding the next day. I probably should have at least put the bedding in the dryer for an hour, oh well, tomorrow, I will wash the bedding again. Have been changing clothes everyday and haven't put on socks. Still wearing disposable latex gloves everyday, have to wear up to three pairs a day because my hands start sweating in them after Ive been doing housework and I have to take them off and throw them away. I'm thinking about retreating in a few days, total body again. Just really scared about these permethrin toxins but also equally as frightened about no getting rid of these scabies. After 6 mos, I'm just so ready for this to be gone. I miss my former healthy self. I was reading about bird mites today and I have a bird house on a fence outside my bedroom window and Im going to take it down. I hope to god I don't have bird mites. I read a on the blog about how long bird mites can live (up to 1 year) and if they have infested your house how many could be in the tens of thousands!! I hope to god that I only have human scabies and not bird mites. I will take that bird house down tomorrow, with gloves of course. Scabies is making me not want birds around the house anymore, we feed the birds and now I don't want birds around because of what scabies has put me through. I'm sure none of us will ever look at anything quite the same and become major germaphobes because of scabies.

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#17 Feb 22, 2014
My scabies came back, I mentioned it to my Mom's doctor when I took her to the doctor and he told me that he got rid of scabies by using Raid bug spray on the red spot of scabies. I decided I would spray a very small amount of Raid and mix it with the Lyclear permethrin cream and use a cotton swab to mix and apply the mixture. My Mom's doctor said that the Lyclear and other permethrin creams only have 5% and it's not strong enough. He said Raid is stronger and that he used it and it never came back. When I applied it to a small spot on my stomach it didn't do much but go away, it didn't spread or anything. But then I had some spots come up on my lower leg and I treated that area with the Raid + Lyclear mixture and that area became really red and angry looking, if it kills them I don't care. The doctor thinks that as long as Im not applying the Raid all over my body there will not be any ill effects to my health. I don't know if I'm using the right kind of Raid though, ours says it's for Ants and Roaches and I thought I read on here, someone used the Raid for spiders. I think we have some of that kind too, so I will make an effort to try that next if this doesn't work. Will report back soon.

Since: Feb 14

Brodhead, KY

#18 Feb 22, 2014
I was wrong! and i apologize, but hope our experience can help others! we had scabies, and got reinfected, but started thinking we had never got rid of them to begin with.. i posted more in details on a thread, crawling sensations caused by scabies or infection..

i am not saying i think every one dealing w scabies is actually dealing with an infection, but i do think many stories here on topixs that i have read sounds so familiar to our story!

I hate that anyone is suffering so bad from any of this, whatever it is causing ur suffering, and i wish the medical community would actually take this more seriously, cause so many lives are completely ruined from all of this! hopefully some time soon, the medical community will step up and actually start educating their selves to all of this!

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#19 Feb 23, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
I was wrong! and i apologize, but hope our experience can help others! we had scabies, and got reinfected, but started thinking we had never got rid of them to begin with.. i posted more in details on a thread, crawling sensations caused by scabies or infection..
i am not saying i think every one dealing w scabies is actually dealing with an infection, but i do think many stories here on topixs that i have read sounds so familiar to our story!
I hate that anyone is suffering so bad from any of this, whatever it is causing ur suffering, and i wish the medical community would actually take this more seriously, cause so many lives are completely ruined from all of this! hopefully some time soon, the medical community will step up and actually start educating their selves to all of this!
No need to apologize, you gave lots of really good tips for battling scabies. I have noticed my outbreaks aren't as bad as they used to be. Maybe I will slowly win the scabies war one small battle at a time. Thank you for all your tips Bran :)

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#20 Feb 23, 2014
I read a word press blog about scabies and LOL'd when I read that they recommended to use Menthol i.e. Absorbine Junior to smoke them out and then permethrin cream to kill them. It just sounded so funny to me when they said smoke them out. Maybe just reading about others trials and tribulations in itself is good for our immune systems so we can all laugh about this nasty scabies bug.:D Laughing has gotten me through many tough times in life so I will keep laughing my way through this scabies infestation. The thing is my Dad said he used menthol (Vicks Vapor Rub) on his scabies and it went away. I don't understand why, my, my daughter and my Mom's scabies keeps coming back but Dad's went away. I tried the Vicks it didn't make mine go away. I do wonder if the Menthol, smoke em out and then treat w/ permethrin cream will work? They said they bought Absorbine Jr. patches, anyone try those?

Since: Feb 14

Brodhead, KY

#21 Feb 23, 2014
"smoke em out", would bet money it was someone in military, or around military..:) only place I've heard those terms..

if using absorbin jr, be sure not to put on sores! butns really bad, even in burrows u can't see..

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#22 Feb 25, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
"smoke em out", would bet money it was someone in military, or around military..:) only place I've heard those terms..
if using absorbin jr, be sure not to put on sores! butns really bad, even in burrows u can't see..
Okay Bran, thanks for the tip. It may be too early to tell, but so far spot treating with Raid seems to be helping. I would never recommend anyone using Raid all over, that would be BAD. I've noticed it's not spreading after I spot treat with Raid. Better if I wait a few more days though before I start telling people I've found a cure. But it does seem to be helping. I haven't had any outbreaks on my forearms this time only on my ankles. I'm in shock that my forearms have been clear for over a week now. I will report back if spot treating with Raid works for good. It looks promising for now.

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