psoriasis and scabies?!!!

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itchyzscratchyz

Santa Ynez, CA

#1 Jul 18, 2010
I Have psoriasis my whole life tho not bad until i started working in a nursing home and got scabies.. at first didnt think it was scabies and saw my derm for psoriasis... but later found out that it was scabies causing my psorisis to flare... permethrin didnt work because it cant penetrate under my psor patches... and derm are retarded because they keep telling me its not scabies just psor even tho my 10 mo old baby was diagnosed with scabies as was my husband which im sure they both got from sleeping in bed with me. Im so frustrated because there are not many treatments for extra sensitive skin most things cause my psor to flare really bad. Also i dont want to rub a bunch of chemicals on my sweet little baby as ive already done the permethrin twice on her and there is no point when it does not work on me and i heal her from these awful things only for her to get reinfested by me again! im so miserable and guilt stricken i am open to any advice or support as my family hate that i talk anout it all the time and probably think im crazy... but nobody understands what we all go through until they are stripped from the freedom to wear shorts and tanktops or low neckline shirts in summer weather...

If anyone out there has any similar experience with hope at the end please share with me because i have been battling this for 2 years and am only 23 years old. Im so tired of staying home and avoiding public places and covering my arms and legs and chest... I just want to be normal again and at this point it feels like it will never happen... did i mention im unemployed with no insurance? Anywho im sorry to be such a negative post but i would love some similar ppls story and how they overcame or are dealing with it... Thanks for listening and god bless all...
noscratchymyitch y

Birmingham, AL

#2 Jul 18, 2010
I am so sorry for anyone that has this horrid condition. I have suffered with it for months. I am getting better now finally! I spent tons of $$(that I didn't really have) on all kinds of treatments. Four (4) rounds of Perm, plus many other treatmenst. I tried everything! After much research, I purchased Ivermectin at a local Tractor Supply. I got the kind for swine the first time, and used it topically. It was working, but not fast enough. About a week later I went back and got the kind for horses. I took a dose of it by mouth. WOW! It is working, and fast! I am improving daily! On the 7th day, I will take a follow up dose to make sure I am totally healed.
I had no ill effects from the Ivermectin.
itchyzscratchyz

Santa Ynez, CA

#3 Jul 18, 2010
noscratchymyitchy wrote:
I am so sorry for anyone that has this horrid condition. I have suffered with it for months. I am getting better now finally! I spent tons of $$(that I didn't really have) on all kinds of treatments. Four (4) rounds of Perm, plus many other treatmenst. I tried everything! After much research, I purchased Ivermectin at a local Tractor Supply. I got the kind for swine the first time, and used it topically. It was working, but not fast enough. About a week later I went back and got the kind for horses. I took a dose of it by mouth. WOW! It is working, and fast! I am improving daily! On the 7th day, I will take a follow up dose to make sure I am totally healed.
I had no ill effects from the Ivermectin.
did u buy the horse paste? i purchased the 1.87 horse paste yesterday its apple flavor but am iffy to use it as i pump milk for my baby and dont want to accidentally poison her? also have heard to use the paste mixed with aloe vera 1:3 ratio and apply topically... let me know the outcome of ur paste use as i would like to try it without being scared of the outcome... thanks and good luck!
been there

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Jul 19, 2010
Hey,i've never had any skin conditions until 4 months ago when i got scabies by staying at an unclean cousins house,on her couch,who had the condition and didn't tell me,and i gave it to my (then) year old daughter.I went through 4 doctors.I talked about it a lot tried the different creams and it helped only so much.And every doctor just gave me that look like i brought it apoun myself.(which isn't true)I was guilt stricken and felt helpless,so much that i was contemplating rubbing gasoline on my skin to get them off me (not my daughter)and was using the cream for her 24/7 .That is until i moved to another state with my daughter.I found that the more sun my daughter and i got the more the scabies went away.It took a lil while for the borrowed holes and wounds from the critters went away.but they did.I read on here the best thing ever.And that was to pick a treatment plan that you believe in,trust that it's going to work,and TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER and all the NEGATIVE influences around you.VACCUM, VACCUM,AND VACCUM!!!I used to cry from staying up late at night reading these wishing i could be one of the few that wrote on here saying they finally got out of this torturous condition.Now from just trusting my method of the 5%cream and finding out that the critters hate the sun i'm living normal again.so good luck to you all.I hope this gives you some what little piece of mind that you can find.
-savannah from MI
itchyzscratchyz

Santa Ynez, CA

#5 Jul 19, 2010
thanks that is reassuring i think i will try the sun method... im glad to hear ur doing bettr
Kooterdan

Sebastian, FL

#6 Jul 21, 2010
the microscopic insect(s) that I feel are causing this suffering are the collembolans. The Nat. Pediculosis Assoc. had found them embedded tightly in the skin of 18 out of 20 patients in a study in 2006. I've been experimenting with parasitic insects ever since I became allergic (sensitive) to them in the mid 90's. Freezing, Boiling, storing away for years and yet no results, they were still alive! Only the collembolans can accomplish this. They can even dehydrate themselves in a kind of suspended animation state and survive any kind of freezing. I do believe this most primitive non-insect in the fossil record
even travels around on icy comets and meteors terra-forming our entire linear-time membrane (universe).‘Speaking of linear time. our brains have been wired (by the ALMIGHTY GOD) for non linear time but SATAN saw to it that those areas were buried deep in our subconscious by narrowing our natural metaversal scope to a simple, single, demonic, linear-time membrane by using the EVIL chronometer (think 60 sec, 60 min, etc.) God warned us but no one seems to take heed! I have a time-displacement experiment (paper) in which you can prove this to yourself, if anyone would like to conduct this simple 2-3 hour mind-expanding technique in bringing one of these areas back into our conscious mind where GOD intended it to reside!! email me Dhfade@yahoo.com and I'll send you my paper.’
Back to these insects(?) The best bet for control that I've found is to do as follows:
You need 4 things as they are already breading and contaminating your entire environment! Thereby turning you into a super carrier before you know it. These bugs killed my mom! Pyrethrins (no permethrins), Safeguard Soap (triclocarban), and a Seal a Meal Vacuum sealer, oh and plenty of Garbage bags! Seal a Meal everything that touches your skin, including shower curtains, mice, books, all clothes and bedding for at least 4 days! Plastic off everything your skin touches, car seats, pillows, mattresses, chairs, and replace shower curtains regularly (use cut large trash bags and dispose of make shift curtains regularly! etc. Make homemade 'Elimite' by mixing 3 parts lotion to one part pyrethrin (home depot Rose Pesticide. active ingredients pyrethrin and sulfur(white spray bottle)). any further questions please feel free to contact me. Dhfade@yahoo.com
Ryan

Thunder Bay, Canada

#7 Oct 1, 2012
Scabies can mimic psoriasis as the scabies will leave your skin dry and in areas they burrow they leave the skin scaly and dry. Also keep in mind the scabies treatments themselves will contribute to the dryness.

Source: http://ScabiesHelpNow.com
Penn

South Bend, IN

#8 Nov 7, 2012
I cannot get rid of these things! It is awful! I was told I may have gotten them thru a nursing home visit. I have been through the permathrin treatment 5xs. I bag everything until I can wash it, never use the same thing before washing it. Am thinking about wrapping myself in plastic. My furniture and bed are now wrapped in plastic. Any, ANY other suggestions? I am a vaccuming madwoman. Please??
bill_noack

Summerfield, FL

#9 Feb 3, 2013
5 derms said its psoriasisevery time i treat with permethrins it all gos away.till about 5 days later im itching like crazy again.i knowm its scabies & they have me o mixed up i dont know what to do anymore
Big J

Hollywood, FL

#10 Apr 17, 2013
This is for the original poster. I have smilier stuff going on now, 3 years ago I got some patches of things on my legs, feet, arms, elbows and hands. So I went to my dermatologist that is also a family friend of our family for at least 20 years, so the first time I went he diagnosed me with psoriasis. At 1st for 3 years we tried tropical cream twice a day and nothing worked at all. So then like a month and a half ago he gave me soriatane witch is pills for paoriasis and took them for 3 wewks until my next doctor visit. So when I went to the doctor 3 weeks later I told him the pills are making me depressed and worn out 24/7 so he told me to stop taking them cold turkey so I did. With that being said he said to me there is nothing else he can do for me, So he refered me to a another dermatologist that specializes in psoriasis at the University of Miami(FL). So I went to this doctor at the University of Miami(FL) 3 weeks ago and when I was there he took some skin off me and took it to another room to look at it under a microscope for about 5-6 min comes back and tells me its not psoriasis that it's scabies and the whole time for 3 years it was scabies and that he was 100% sure. Now I took 6 little white pills(I for got the name of it) all at once the 1st day and also put on permethrin for 8-14 hours twice exactly within a week of each other. Right now it had been 4 coming up on 5 weeks(friday) and 85-90% of it is gone so far. If its not all gone by this upcoming monday I'm going back to the doctor ASAP.
billy boy

Ocala, FL

#11 Apr 17, 2013
itchyzscratchyz wrote:
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did u buy the horse paste? i purchased the 1.87 horse paste yesterday its apple flavor but am iffy to use it as i pump milk for my baby and dont want to accidentally poison her? also have heard to use the paste mixed with aloe vera 1:3 ratio and apply topically... let me know the outcome of ur paste use as i would like to try it without being scared of the outcome... thanks and good luck!
this is from billy boy.did you ask for ivermectrin or horse paste I would like to know if its safe for humans to use.no derm would ever say its scabies to me always psoriasis.but every time I treat for scabies it goes away but comes back in like a week later im pretty sure I have psoriasis to but my itch is so terible at night please reply yhsnk you

Since: Jan 13

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#12 Apr 19, 2013
billy boy wrote:
<quoted text> this is from billy boy.did you ask for ivermectrin or horse paste I would like to know if its safe for humans to use.no derm would ever say its scabies to me always psoriasis.but every time I treat for scabies it goes away but comes back in like a week later im pretty sure I have psoriasis to but my itch is so terible at night please reply yhsnk you
Just make sure you get the horse paste that is JUST ivermectin. There are a few with Praziquantel in them. Don't take that. Take Ivermectin only.

This is one with just iver: http://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-Paste-Deworm...

The dosage is the same for humans as for horses... take the amount for your weight.

Ivermectin is prescribed for humans under the name Stromecol.... if your doctor listens to you they might prescribe it.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#13 Apr 19, 2013
sorry - typo "STROMECTROL" is the human ivermectin.
billy boy

Ocala, FL

#14 Apr 20, 2013
thank you ghosts.did you use the ivermetrin paste dewormer or did you get stromectrol from your doc/
itchyitchy

Omak, WA

#15 Aug 26, 2013
Hello noscratchymyitchy what size did you get to take orally...i bn through using permethrin and i have psorasis so it has aggravated the condition please help i know this is a old post i hope you canhelp me
At my wits end

Chicago, IL

#16 Aug 27, 2013
So sorry for anyone going through this nightmare. I'm now into 4 years of misery, numerous physicians specializing in dermatology, allergy, immunology and many in between!:( I started with bumps that itched like crazy on my scalp. They proceeded to eventually attack everywhere. I have become OCD in regard to reinfestation. However, to no prevail. I've tried all the treatments. I just ordered sulfur soap and sulfur cream. Going to use lice shampoo for my hair, and the lice household spray.(Lice and scabies are related.) Cross your fingers I can once again find peace in my life.
itchyzscratchyz

New York, NY

#17 May 21, 2014
Hello everyone, it has been quite a long time since I posted on here but I thought I would follow up a bit. I have been continuing my psoriasis treatments and have found that clobetesol (clobex) spray has helped the psoriasis symptoms and for awhile I began thinking it was all in my head. That was until recently, I had another child who is now 5 months old. I started noticing small light pink bumps on his feet and cheeks, and my daughter who is now 4 also began scratching like crazy saying she was itching like crazy.

I think what happened with our rounds of permethrin a few years back we may have actually cured ourselves because she never itched this way after that. Well of course I still work in a nursing home and just a few weeks back a patient was diagnosed with scabies. Not even a day later I had the crawling feeling on my arms and face, I knew it was back. I took my kids to the pediatrician the next day explaining that there was an outbreak at my work and that they had a rash. I also explained that I already have psoriasis but that I was itching too. She told me what we have always thought to be true, the scabies use people like us with skin conditions as easy targets to infest. I asked about stromectol but was quickly assured that it wasn't necessary as long as I applied the cream and massaged it into my plaques. At first I was skeptical because I didn't think it would penetrate deep enough but I decided it was better then nothing. So last week my whole family was treated and I immediately saw my skin clearing the following day all my flaky skin was gone. Now 5 days later I have continued to use my clobex spray twice daily and I am seeing remarkable results. My psoriasis is almost completely clear which means my psoriasis medicine is doing what it's designed to do and though I am slightly itchy, we are going to retreat with the permethrin tomorrow evening. I am confident that I will be able to put this all behind me well at least I am hopeful.

I know that there are strains of scabies that are becoming resistant to permethrin but I Am wondering if it is being applied correctly because I scrubbed my body in a hot shower with a lofa to exfoliate. When I got out I let my body cool off and then applied the lotion, I massaged it on my scalp in the crevices of my ears on my entire face avoiding the eyes nose holes and mouth, and into the rest of my body and put it underneath my nails and toenails. This hole application took me about 40 min because I wanted to be covered head to toe and I did the same for the rest of my family. I also removed clothes from the closets and drawers that are hardly worn and put them into vacuum sealable bags in the garage. I removed all the bath rugs and even after washing did not put them back in the bathrooms. I also washed all the hand towels and left them in bags as well. I put rolls of paper towels in each bathroom for drying hands. I also put dirty clothes into a garbage bag when changing or showering and take it into the garage. I bought vinyl zippered mattress covers and covered the mattresses.

I am not saying in cured but I am amazed at how clear my skin has gotten and I am praying that the next treatment will b the last. I did read that those with psoriasis should do two rounds of permethrin one week apart and then a third application the day after the second one to ensure no reinfestation. So tomorrow after we do the second and I clean the house again, I will be doing a third application the following day. I will post an update but I should add that I have faithfully been tanning in a stand up tanning bed(so as not to infect other users) and since the initial treatment the red itchy bumps I had are drying out. Not sure if the heat helps but it definately helps with the psoriasis aspect. I hope this helps and I will post an update after the next (and hopefully last) treatment. &#128515;

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