A living nightmare.

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Since: Jun 13

Whitstable, UK

#1 Jun 17, 2013
Hello,

My name is Shane, and hopefully someone will tell me this is all a bad dream, I will wake up and It'll all be over. But I doubt that will happen.

I recently caught scabies and, obviously, infected my house too. Its me, my mum and cat who live here, plus my mum's boyfriend who comes occasionally.

Me and my mum have scabies and my cat is carrying them on her fur as she's itching intensively despite flea treatment being used on her, which suggests the scabies are in her fur irritating her.

The scabies are in our hair, nose, ears, as well as every other part of our body. Trying to rid ourselves of scabies is immensely difficult due to my mum currently going through secondary bone cancer, meaning she is constantly in bed usually sleeping with strong pain killers, and she finds it extremely difficult to move, therefore her bathing and showering EVERY DAY is out of the picture, its simply too much for her.

I am incredibly worried the scabies will manifest on her into the variation of crusted scabies, due to the chemotherapy she is currently undertaking, thus weakening her immune system. I have taken action and I have bought diatomaceous earth which I have spread around the house, in the beds and on my cat. I have mixed the DE into olive oil, a formula I found on here, which we rub into our skin morning and night. I have bought sulfur soap, neem soap as well as sulfur shampoo. I wash our clothes with borax in the washing machine, on a hot wash. However, we do not have a dryer nor an airing cupboard so I find myself resorting to ironing everything 2 or 3 times on a high setting with steam. I have purchased mattress and pillow cases to trap the mites in the pillows and mattresses and I am ironing the bedding everyday 3 times to, hopefully, kill the mites. I have bagged and put away many items which are likely to be infested. We have a steam cleaner for the floor coming, hopefully soon. Its only been a few days and its already making me lose the will to live, I can't imagine having it for years which is what I've read on here.

I am really trying all that I can. Its only been a few days we've started with the DE treatment. However if anybody else has any other suggestions or words of advice I would really appreciate it. I will update anything new on her and thank you for reading.

Since: Jan 13

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#2 Jun 17, 2013
Have you and your mom used the perm cream? If not the both of you should. You should use it at least 3x 7 days apart. If you could get a hold of some iver I would take that also. Your cat needs to be treated also. Sorry about your mom. I hope she gets better soon. I bought a steamer for the floor and I think it works really well. I have a steamer for clothing it helps alot. Keep us posted on you and your moms treatment.

Since: Jun 13

New York, NY

#3 Jun 18, 2013
If you haven't yet, I would go see a doctor about this as soon as possible. Two applications of Permethrin seems to be the standard prescription and will cure most cases. Are you confident that sulfur/borax/DE treatments are effective, safe, and necessary, despite what some (non-doctors) in these forums suggest? I'm not a doctor either, but my doctor advised me to use Permethrin, and that's all that I needed.
FRED

Golden, CO

#4 Jun 18, 2013
misterchief wrote:
If you haven't yet, I would go see a doctor about this as soon as possible. Two applications of Permethrin seems to be the standard prescription and will cure most cases. Are you confident that sulfur/borax/DE treatments are effective, safe, and necessary, despite what some (non-doctors) in these forums suggest? I'm not a doctor either, but my doctor advised me to use Permethrin, and that's all that I needed.
Some people say that what you don't know won't hurt you but that is not at all the case.

Since: Jun 13

Whitstable, UK

#5 Jun 18, 2013
misterchief wrote:
If you haven't yet, I would go see a doctor about this as soon as possible. Two applications of Permethrin seems to be the standard prescription and will cure most cases. Are you confident that sulfur/borax/DE treatments are effective, safe, and necessary, despite what some (non-doctors) in these forums suggest? I'm not a doctor either, but my doctor advised me to use Permethrin, and that's all that I needed.
I forgot to mention we did go through 2 treatments of Permethrin. I'm afraid to take anymore as they may develop an immunity to the Permethrin. The clove oil has been proved to kill them, which is a natural substance. Itching is bearable, a lot better than it was last week
misterchief

New York, NY

#6 Jun 19, 2013
shanest wrote:
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I forgot to mention we did go through 2 treatments of Permethrin. I'm afraid to take anymore as they may develop an immunity to the Permethrin. The clove oil has been proved to kill them, which is a natural substance. Itching is bearable, a lot better than it was last week
After successfully being cured, itching and outbreaks on the skin commonly continue to occur for weeks. Unless you've waited for more than a month, you shouldn't assume the Permethrin treatments did not work.
misterchief

New York, NY

#7 Jun 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Some people say that what you don't know won't hurt you but that is not at all the case.
I'd say, if someone wants to use alternative forms of treatment, the prudent approach would be to at least consult with their doctor about those treatments.
FRED

Golden, CO

#8 Jun 19, 2013
misterchief wrote:
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I'd say, if someone wants to use alternative forms of treatment, the prudent approach would be to at least consult with their doctor about those treatments.
Read the thread from the start and all the studies too. I'd love to hear
your insight.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...
FRED

Golden, CO

#9 Jun 19, 2013
misterchief wrote:
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I'd say, if someone wants to use alternative forms of treatment, the prudent approach would be to at least consult with their doctor about those treatments.
Doctors are trained in medical schools that receive money from pharmaceutical corporations and that drastically effects the curriculum. Pharmaceuticals are synthetic chemical isolates that the body identifies as toxins, they do not occur in nature and are unsuitable to put into an organism. Doctors do not look at treating the whole body when all the body systems are connected and mutually influence each other. Doctors use targeted poisons to exploit specific weaknesses. If you don't think they are poisons just listen closely to the commercials. These toxic pharmaceuticals stay in your fat cells and leach out for the rest of your life slowly poisoning your body functions.The whole philosophy of the western medicine profession is fundamentally and seriously flawed. So by all means check with your doctor.

Doctors are pretty good at fixing broken arms and such but that is as far as it goes.
FRED

Golden, CO

#10 Jun 19, 2013
misterchief wrote:
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I'd say, if someone wants to use alternative forms of treatment, the prudent approach would be to at least consult with their doctor about those treatments.
An even better approach would be to educate yourself.

Since: Jun 13

New York, NY

#11 Jun 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Read the thread from the start and all the studies too. I'd love to hear
your insight.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...
The average person who has scabies does not have lyme disease. Readers should probably be skeptical about treating scabies with the treatments used for lyme disease.

Since: Jun 13

New York, NY

#12 Jun 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
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Doctors are trained in medical schools that receive money from pharmaceutical corporations and that drastically effects the curriculum. Pharmaceuticals are synthetic chemical isolates that the body identifies as toxins, they do not occur in nature and are unsuitable to put into an organism. Doctors do not look at treating the whole body when all the body systems are connected and mutually influence each other. Doctors use targeted poisons to exploit specific weaknesses. If you don't think they are poisons just listen closely to the commercials. These toxic pharmaceuticals stay in your fat cells and leach out for the rest of your life slowly poisoning your body functions.The whole philosophy of the western medicine profession is fundamentally and seriously flawed. So by all means check with your doctor.
Doctors are pretty good at fixing broken arms and such but that is as far as it goes.
If you reject Western medicine, that's fine, but for people who don't subscribe to your view and who aren't here to debate it, they owe it to themselves to consult with a doctor, particularly since the usual methods of curing scabies that are prescribed in the West are based on studies showing that such methods are generally effective and preferable in most cases.

Since: Jun 13

New York, NY

#13 Jun 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
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An even better approach would be to educate yourself.
Call me crazy, but speaking to a doctor is a valuable component of educating oneself.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#14 Jun 19, 2013
misterchief wrote:
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The average person who has scabies does not have lyme disease. Readers should probably be skeptical about treating scabies with the treatments used for lyme disease.
So your basing your assertions on your extensive research? You really don't know what you are talking about. Also the information you have posted in this forum so far can be found on google in 10 minutes.

That's the problem with this forum you get people like yourself who are really clueless trying to step up and lead.

Maybe you think people need you here to think for them because your posts have absolutely no substance.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#15 Jun 19, 2013
misterchief wrote:
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If you reject Western medicine, that's fine, but for people who don't subscribe to your view and who aren't here to debate it, they owe it to themselves to consult with a doctor, particularly since the usual methods of curing scabies that are prescribed in the West are based on studies showing that such methods are generally effective and preferable in most cases.
In your case your not even here to consider anything other than what your already sure of. How brave of you.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#16 Jun 19, 2013
lotus_fan wrote:
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In your case your not even here to consider anything other than what your already sure of. How brave of you.
"your" shows possession

"you're" is a combination of two words, you are...

get it right, you dumb arse mf....

fkfce
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#17 Jun 19, 2013
Are you arguing with yourself again, Fred?

This is a scabies forum and I would think that 85% of the people here have scabies.

You need to take a long hike to hell, Fred.
Take a few HERBS with you.

Since: Jun 13

New York, NY

#18 Jun 19, 2013
lotus_fan wrote:
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So your basing your assertions on your extensive research? You really don't know what you are talking about.
No one has posted a shred of evidence indicating that most people who have scabies also have lyme disease, so there is no onus on me or anyone else to disprove as much.
lotus_fan wrote:
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That's the problem with this forum you get people like yourself who are really clueless trying to step up and lead.
Maybe you think people need you here to think for them because your posts have absolutely no substance.
The reason I've made any posts here is because the discussions on this forum are dominated by a minority of people who either are having an abnormally hard time curing their scabies, or who have something other than scabies. I'm not saying those discussions are inappropriate, and I very much sympathize with the people who are enduring such extreme cases.

However, I think it's important to acknowledge that the average person who comes to read here, logically, is "average", and for the average person infected with scabies, the regular cure regimen prescribed by a doctor will be sufficient to cure them.

The extreme measures that those of you with extreme cases have to take are not necessary for the average person. I speak from experience; when I first learned that myself and two loved ones had scabies, I lurked on these forums for quite some time, and if I would have followed most of the advice I read here regarding how to cure scabies, it would have been overkill because as it turned out, all three of us were easily cured by following our doctors' simple instructions.

So I'm not trying to refute what those with extreme cases have to say about how to treat their extreme cases. I just think reading this forum can be confusing for the average person because the average person does not need to resort to the extreme measures that the regulars here discuss at length.
FRED

Golden, CO

#19 Jun 19, 2013
misterchief wrote:
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No one has posted a shred of evidence indicating that most people who have scabies also have lyme disease, so there is no onus on me or anyone else to disprove as much.
<quoted text>
The reason I've made any posts here is because the discussions on this forum are dominated by a minority of people who either are having an abnormally hard time curing their scabies, or who have something other than scabies. I'm not saying those discussions are inappropriate, and I very much sympathize with the people who are enduring such extreme cases.
However, I think it's important to acknowledge that the average person who comes to read here, logically, is "average", and for the average person infected with scabies, the regular cure regimen prescribed by a doctor will be sufficient to cure them.
The extreme measures that those of you with extreme cases have to take are not necessary for the average person. I speak from experience; when I first learned that myself and two loved ones had scabies, I lurked on these forums for quite some time, and if I would have followed most of the advice I read here regarding how to cure scabies, it would have been overkill because as it turned out, all three of us were easily cured by following our doctors' simple instructions.
So I'm not trying to refute what those with extreme cases have to say about how to treat their extreme cases. I just think reading this forum can be confusing for the average person because the average person does not need to resort to the extreme measures that the regulars here discuss at length.
Unfortunately you are making up your own version of what "average" means or you got it off some cut and paste website like ehow.
Apparently the only research you've done is looking up your "doctors" phone number so he can explain everything to you. As I have done over a thousand hours of reading and am writing a book on these subjects your assumptions of what is "logical" are at best simplistic, baseless and naive. Your assumptions are logical to you because you're working with an extremely limited knowledge base.

You are not looking for information that people post about symptoms they have that are related to another type of infection because you are completely unaware of any of the complex issues going on in this forum, instead you are just proud of your own mindless gibberish.
FRED

Golden, CO

#20 Jun 19, 2013
VSS wrote:
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"your" shows possession
"you're" is a combination of two words, you are...
get it right, you dumb arse mf....
fkfce
I see the infections are very active in your brain tonight. That is quite a central nervous system infection you've got there. Can you hear the movement in your head? Can you feel the pathogens crawling inside what's left of what used to be you?

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