Langoliers

Chicago, IL

#123 Apr 9, 2012
Fighting the battle wrote:
<quoted text>Well obviously you do cause your reading the post..its "not so nice" ppl like you that come here and judge others that run ppl off that are trying to help, here's a tip if ya dont have a cure or helpful you should not be hanging around here what good are you doing anyone..really????
All I have been doing is telling people that after having scabies for 3 months and trying everything suggested on this board that I found something that worked for Atwood two other friend who also are currently bite free. Is this not what this form is for?

Right now I think the 3 of us are all cured but we need more time to be sure. Anyway we are way better then before we did the last treatment.
The Famous

Hollywood, FL

#124 Apr 9, 2012
Desperate girl wrote:
<quoted text>
MW- when u did the Advantix, how'd you make 2 of those little cont go over your whole body & scalp? My scalp is what I'm having the most trouble with right now with the treatment I'm on, I'm trying to decide what to try next. I did try the Advantix before but never had enough to cover scalp.
Read the Imidacloprid thread from start to finish. Drink coffee so you will not fall asleep while reading it. All the answers to your "Advantix" questions are in that thread. I think the posters used a carrier oil with the pippettes. Again, Advantix contains 45% permethrin and imidacloprid. That's quite a bit of permethrin to be applying to your skin day in and day out. Again, VERY DANGEROUS!!!! It was finally discovered that this approach didn't work for some people.
In many studies, it was determined that a good topical, along with ivermectin taken at 200 micrograms per kilogram of body weight worked well. It is safe to go as high as 300 micrograms per kilogram of body weight Benzyl Benzoate is a good topical. Elimite 5% is good and is what doctor's prescribe. Yes, the mites are becoming immune to this percentage, but when you skip from 5% to 45% permethrin, you are GETTING INTO THE DANGER ZONE.
Fighting the battle

Wapakoneta, OH

#125 Apr 9, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
All I have been doing is telling people that after having scabies for 3 months and trying everything suggested on this board that I found something that worked for Atwood two other friend who also are currently bite free. Is this not what this form is for?
Right now I think the 3 of us are all cured but we need more time to be sure. Anyway we are way better then before we did the last treatment.
I think it is great you found what worked for you all! I also think it is nice of you to take your time and come and post your suggestions as to what helped you,( I do hope that is your cure) as you know there is many ppl battling this an it is NO fun, so thank you for trying to help.:)
The Famous

Hollywood, FL

#126 Apr 9, 2012
Fighting the battle wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it is great you found what worked for you all! I also think it is nice of you to take your time and come and post your suggestions as to what helped you,( I do hope that is your cure) as you know there is many ppl battling this an it is NO fun, so thank you for trying to help.:)
Pretty flowers.
Langoliers

Chicago, IL

#127 Apr 9, 2012
The Famous wrote:
<quoted text>Read the Imidacloprid thread from start to finish. Drink coffee so you will not fall asleep while reading it. All the answers to your "Advantix" questions are in that thread. I think the posters used a carrier oil with the pippettes. Again, Advantix contains 45% permethrin and imidacloprid. That's quite a bit of permethrin to be applying to your skin day in and day out. Again, VERY DANGEROUS!!!! It was finally discovered that this approach didn't work for some people.
In many studies, it was determined that a good topical, along with ivermectin taken at 200 micrograms per kilogram of body weight worked well. It is safe to go as high as 300 micrograms per kilogram of body weight Benzyl Benzoate is a good topical. Elimite 5% is good and is what doctor's prescribe. Yes, the mites are becoming immune to this percentage, but when you skip from 5% to 45% permethrin, you are GETTING INTO THE DANGER ZONE.
Almost every post on this board is in the danger zone

Go to a doctor.

For me I went and got Perm 5% and ivermectin pills after 3 treatment things were better but did not stop them. I will say I took (most likely too much) horse paste and more perm 5% cream
I took a lot of horse paste and it cleaned them out of my eyes and ears and scalp
And have now gone like 5 days bite free

My 3 friends did the same and are also bite free.
Bit nomore

Naperville, IL

#128 Apr 10, 2012
I followed what Death by SCABIES said on the first posting " 4 Day cure "

I am 4 days bite free. And I did take precautions as to not to infect anyone.

Thank you Death by SCABIES if I'm not cured I sure do have them on the run now.
once bitten

Chicago, IL

#129 Apr 13, 2012
Sounds like a lot of work and money. Is this really what you have to go through to get rid of them? OMG what the hell did I catch? Or should I say caught me.
bugged out

United States

#131 Apr 14, 2012
I did as Death said in the first few post on this posting and I am surprised how well that worked. Warning to all the Nair can really burn the best is to put it on in the shower and don't move for 3 to 5 minutes. Walking around with it on will burn skin where ever it rubs.

I didn't have them to bad because this was the second time I had them. So I caught the fast. I did so much the first time and wound up doing something like Deaths suggest to get rid of them the fist time but that was after I tried everything posted first. This time went and moved out and well everything else Death by SCABIES points out. It works people.
Langoliers

United States

#132 Apr 14, 2012
I'll tell you it helped me out big time

One bite in the last ten days.
I bleached and perm that bite to death.
Desperate girl

Azle, TX

#133 Apr 14, 2012
bugged out wrote:
I did as Death said in the first few post on this posting and I am surprised how well that worked. Warning to all the Nair can really burn the best is to put it on in the shower and don't move for 3 to 5 minutes. Walking around with it on will burn skin where ever it rubs.
I didn't have them to bad because this was the second time I had them. So I caught the fast. I did so much the first time and wound up doing something like Deaths suggest to get rid of them the fist time but that was after I tried everything posted first. This time went and moved out and well everything else Death by SCABIES points out. It works people.
So you did the lindane too?

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#134 Apr 15, 2012
Aturn81 wrote:
As I sit here covered from the neck down in DE powder I am contiplating the nair stratedgy. I haven't tried any ivermectin yet either. All the other stuff mentioned I have tried. My husband thinks I might be crazy since I've had it for almost five weeks and no one else in our big family has had one sign of them. Yay for nair!
I think I'm gonna end up in the looney bin with this stuff. Yikes!
Well aturn ...my hubby broke out more tonight... and he is starting to listen to me.... about doing some other things..........that are listed here from others that have been in the battle longer... i just hate it that it is all we think about ... but I want to be cured and all of us.......... i'm new to this & hoping the others don't give up on us ....newbies to scabies...:(
Langoliers

United States

#136 Apr 15, 2012
augustmidwest wrote:
So thinking about the Nair it makes sense that this may be a tool for use in some big areas but the reality is that the mites get in just about every square inch of your skin, even inside your ears a little and up the nose a little. I don't think you could put it on your eyelids or under your eyes without damage.And I don't think many would want to put it on the scalp.

The idea that the infection is somehow localized to a bite area in contrast with the reality that you were infected for 4-6 weeks before you started having symptoms and that the mites can travel about an inch or two in an hour would suggest that the "bite" is just another symptom of a whole body problem.
This is all very true that's why the NAIR really helps. You'll see what I mean when you Nair an area on your body that has no signs of bites or tracks and you never even itched there, then you Nair it and hundreds and hundreds of red bumps appear and sand comes pouring out. That is how you kill a hive.
The Famous

Hollywood, FL

#137 Apr 16, 2012
augustmidwest wrote:
1.Your very proud of your self but don't know s**t
2. a strong dose of reading will let you know people here have taken 5x doses, WTF are you talking about?
3. A big Bong in every room, sure.
4. Only selfish as*h*les spread this by going to hotels.
5. That's it you're stupid, it wasn't the permethrin or Ivermectin , must be the nair!!!!!!!!
Desperate girl, this is the reason I am here. She's gotten ALOT nicer within the past few days. A huge change of attitude, I would think.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#138 Apr 22, 2012
I think by putting plastic over everything including your mattress and box spring then spaying it down with the perm 39% SPF that you mix with water for indoor use ( you can buy it on eBay or fleet and farm stores) I also sprayed my socks with it. That all this is about the same as moving out to hotels. But you can last longer money wise with the plastic then hotels.

I really think that the most trouble I had during this whole thing was doing all the cleaning. The beater bar on the vacuum just sent them flying everywhere. The more I cleaned the more but up I got. They say that on average most people Carry about 12 egg layers the new borns go looking for new homes. The plastic keeps them in contact with the spray poison and drys them out faster.
And just let's them lay there and die while cleaning spreads them all over.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#139 Apr 22, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>This is all very true that's why the NAIR really helps. You'll see what I mean when you Nair an area on your body that has no signs of bites or tracks and you never even itched there, then you Nair it and hundreds and hundreds of red bumps appear and sand comes pouring out. That is how you kill a hive.
I spoke with a guy who tried "Nair" on his Scabies areas and says it helped kill lots of mites. He said the mites reacted in fear of "Nair" vs getting agitated like they usually do from Permethrin, Iver, or Clove Oil. But it is not a cure he said. The mites have burrowed so deep he believes nothing can reach them for a cure. Interesting though.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#140 Apr 22, 2012
Yes Nair kills unknown hives, horse paste kills from the under side of the skin it gets the deep ones.
Me Too

Hemet, CA

#141 Apr 22, 2012
I was watching an add for hair removal with a home treatment called NoNo. It uses a technology that desolves the hair root....some sort of heat. I was wondering how scabies would react to the treatment. It is suppose to be safe. Luckily, I don't have scabies any more, but I thought I would share my hunch about this......

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#142 Apr 22, 2012
Me Too wrote:
I was watching an add for hair removal with a home treatment called NoNo. It uses a technology that desolves the hair root....some sort of heat. I was wondering how scabies would react to the treatment. It is suppose to be safe. Luckily, I don't have scabies any more, but I thought I would share my hunch about this......
Not a bad idea. Nymphs go to the hair root to start feeding. You kill the root you interrupt the life cycle.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#143 Apr 25, 2012
Death by SCABIES appears to have been cured no new post by him.
That is solid proof that his cure worked for him.

I am still wondering if I have bird mites or Scabies or what.
BuggedButNotOut

Australia

#144 Apr 26, 2012
Langoliers: There are a few differences between scabies and bird mites, noting that there are several kinds of bird mites.

From what I can see and from what I have read the main difference appears to be:

1) Where are the mites on the body
Scabies mites live in the skin. They tend to burrow inside the skin. The classic 'burrow lines' usually appear.
Bird mites live on the skin. They can bite hard - like a mosquito or small ant or spider bites - but generally don't burrow

2) Where are the mites in the environment?
Scabies tends to live in the places where they will find you again quickly. Your bed. Your clothes. Your lounge and chairs.
Bird mites get everywhere. They can live anywhere in the house and can infest cupboards, walls, ceilings, powerpoints, books, anything.

While scabies gets into your environment, they need their host. Bird mites will be everywhere, all over the floor etc.

Iver generally targets and kills scabies more than bird mites. This is because the scabies are in the skin, whereas the bird mites are on the skin.

Bird mites can infest a location for months, and still be there, waiting, when you come back. I write this from personal experience. I have stuff from a year ago with bird mites in it.. open it up and they come rushing out. I assume that this means that bird mites can hibernate.
From what I can tell, scabies doesn't survive for months without a host.

Skin scrapings will show scabies / eggs / etc more easily than bird mites. In my experience it is very hard to catch a bird mite on the hop. It was only when I had thousands on me and they were all adult form that it was easy to see them.

Bird mites generally show up in the environment as black or white dots when they are in adult form. Put a piece of clean black plastic on the floor and wait. If after 10 to 20 minutes it becomes covered with white dots.. well.. there are your specimen examples.

In my experience, with the mites I have, you constantly feel the bird mites 'jumping' and 'crawling' around the feet and legs. They also crawl all over the skin and will bite any sensitive skin - eyelids are the current favourite.

So, have a look at your symptoms and make a list of the specific problems you are having. Don't rule out that you may have more than one problem.

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