Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#221 May 9, 2013
Aha wrote:
I do not like to speculate, but this poster apparently used nicotine topically on scabies on skin. Maybe mixed 100% pure chewing tobacco with water and applied topically. Or steeped non chemical treated tobacco leaves in boiled water and applied as a topical tincture. Tobacco does kill parasites, that is why smokers have statistically less asthmatic conditions then non smokers (hookworms and microfilarial parasites, threadworm parasites etc infect the asthmatics lungs and liver)Studies found tobacco smokers have less asthma due to higher immune to these lung parasites because they smoke tobacco. Tobacco repels worms. That is why american indians and tribal communities and herbalists use tobacco as a medicine, for its anti helminth/anti worm properties.
As poster noted unless you do your homework on nicotine, applying it topically could be harmfull unless you know what you are doing.
Remember every non independant study you read could be a lie, SALESMEN and SALESWOMEN lie constantly to sell products, some SALESPEOPLE lie to sell misdiagnosis to make people sick to get more medical business. Bad mds are SALESPEOPLE who sell fabrication studies, no cure and misdiagnosis for thier own profit or ulterior motives. Pure research is INDEPENDANT RESEARCH not tied to any money, sale, product or ulterior motive. The BEST research is subjective self research, self trial and error based on self study and common sense,that works and helps you.
Interesting post on tobacco, bet it does kill scabies dermally. Topical dosage would be the critical factor.
I have had the scabies going on two months now, I have used the cream three times and the pills twice with the cream, I have done every thing I have read to do plus more and I still have them. I had been spending a lot of time with my lady friend and her family 3/4 days and nights per week, In the beginning I did not realize I had scabies and thought I was experiencing the itching because of a lack of vitamin B, I have had itching before when my levels fall off, I took vitamin B and the itching continued, a trip to my doctor and I was told I had scabies. I was horrified thinking that I must have given the scabies to my lady friend and her children.My lady friend was treated and had never had symptoms, her children were not treated but had no symptoms. Why did I have scabies while my lady friend in her family never had them or symptoms of them? It finally dawned on me it was not luck it was the fact that my friend and her daughters are all smokers, nicotine is a poison and has been used as an insecticide for years. I do not smoke. I went to the pharmacy and purchased the 21mg patch. I am on my second day with the patch and my symptoms have decreased. The eggs of the scabie mite hatch out in four days, I expect to be scabie free in another 4 days.Excited by the possibility of having found a cure for scabies I did a search to see if their was a patent on using the nicotine patch. It appears that I am too late to file a patent it has already been filed. You can view the patent by going to
http://www.freshpatents.com/Non-systemic-cont...

I will back in four days to report my progress with the nicotine patch. Till then good luck with your scabies I hope they are gone and you and your family are scabie free
Foofooinpain

Peninsula, OH

#222 May 9, 2013
Please its been two and a half years help!
Foofooinpain

Peninsula, OH

#223 May 9, 2013
Anyone out there I cant sleep its 2:17 am need to tal to someone who is in my shoes!
Dawn

Duluth, GA

#224 May 12, 2013
Foofooinpain wrote:
Anyone out there I cant sleep its 2:17 am need to tal to someone who is in my shoes!
Go swimming, the chlorine will kill the mites.
losing my sanity

Portland, OR

#225 May 14, 2013
That's bs because I've been a heavy smoker for 10 yrs and I'm being bit to shit by mites.
PTSS wrote:
I was wondering about nicotine so I did a search on scabies and nicotine and it brought me to this thread. My lady friend did not get scabies we were together before I knew that the itching I was feeling was from scabies, She is a smoker I quit 12 years ago. I doubt if you have to bathe in nicotine for it to work on scabies, I do not want to start smoking again but I am thinking about using the patch to get the nicotine into my blood. Any thoughts from anyone?
losing my sanity

Portland, OR

#226 May 14, 2013
I gave up... it never really went away. I have more bites then ever. What do they look like? I haven't seen anything. Every time i feel something bite the crap out of me i look and don't see anything. I was thinking of taking pictures of my bites and get some feedback on what it is. Maybe i have some other mite.
Itchy99 wrote:
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As far as the Post scabies question, I don't know, I have crawling on my feet and scalp and it has not subsided even with my normal clove oil/olive oil regime. I did put hand sanitizer on some parts of my body and scalp a few days ago and it stoped the crawling for almost half a day, so I will be doing this again tonight for relief. Also, with my symptoms and with the last three doctor appointments, they say I don't have scabies (nothing on hands and feet and no visible bumps because I've been treating with clove oil/sulfer for two months), possibly folliculitis (staph infection), and if I do , it could be parasitic because I definitely have crawling and can visually see the mites (not just black specks, actual bugs), which alot of people get pissed off and say you can't see them, but I can definitely see what has come out of me the past month. I saved some of the mites and will send photos to anyone who wishes to view them. My next venture is to go back to my internist after she reviews my bloodwork (which includes parasite tests) I will then ask her to refer me to and infectious disease specialist, not a dermatologist (last derm refused to give me a scraping because of no visible scabies like bumps). I know I don't have morgellons, no lesions, no fibers, no bumps anymore...so it must be some kind of mite infestation. all feedback is welcomed.
losing my sanity

Portland, OR

#227 May 14, 2013
Please look at my pics and tell me if it looks like i have scabies or not. Please :(

http://m1364.photobucket.com/albumlist/losing...

Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#228 May 15, 2013
Foofooinpain wrote:
Please its been two and a half years help!
After 3 treatments with the cream and pills I was still fighting with the little --------- I did every thing suggested plus more and still they survive. Finally it dawned on me that my lady friend and her family with whom I spend at least half of my time had not become infected "thank goodness". So why me and not them? The answer was right under my nose they are all smokers that's all smokers and all have nicotine in their systems.Nicotine is a deadly insecticide.I don't want to smoke but I want to rid of these little b--t--ds, I put on the patch, the 21mg patch, I have been wearing it day and night for 5 days now and my symptoms now may only be the bodies immune system acting on the dead bodies and feces. I am not a scientist but do believe it could take 2 weeks on the patch to deal with any unhatched eggs. But so far during this nightmare this is the only time that I have felt very little biting and almost no crawling two sure signs that they are alive and chewing. I would guess that the hatching juveniles will have to feed before the nicotine takes effects and kills them.

The prescription meds we take have a half life of no more then 18 hours that means that any eggs that hatch out or any mites that may be on rugs, clothing, furniture, bedding ect could still re-infect you since the mite can live without a host for 72 hours and the eggs can take 10 days or more to hatch out. The patch should continue to put a deadly poison in your blood and any where that the blood circulates to for as long as you use it.

So far the patch has greatly reduced almost to the point of where I feel little to no biting or crawling. The medical field is limited to what it can do treat these little b--t--ds. Our minds are only limited by our failure to use them.

Researching has shown me that their are patents in effect now that cover using nicotine as a treatment on humans to deal with scabies and other mites. Why they are not being used to treat scabies, lice and other parasites may have to do with the fact that a 14 day supply of 21mg patches can be purchased for as little as $35.00. One treatment of the cream costs me over $113.00 x 3=$339 dollars. I can't remember the cost of the prescription pills bujt it is around $80.00 x 3 =$240.00 dollars. Not counting the sprays and disinfectants I used that adds up to a woping $579.00. So draw your own conclusions on why the patch has not been used not just to treat but to CURE scabies? Helpful hint prescription meds $579.00 dollars to treat opposed to $35.00 to eradicate the little b--t--ds.
ice

UK

#230 May 15, 2013
I want us to get malathon to be available it shld not be banned it works medication shld be stored correctly and used correctly this work so we need it to be available

Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#231 May 15, 2013
Foofooinpain wrote:
Please its been two and a half years help!
If you or anyone you know has a scabies infestation, please have them read this. The scabies are very small mites you can get them from just about any where, but are mostly transmitted by skin to skin contact even a handshake could act as a vehicle for them to move from one person to another. Sleeping in the same bed or sitting on a piece of furniture any where could pass them on. The scabies female once on you burrows into the upper layers of skin where she feeds and lays her eggs, The eggs hatch in about ten days, they quickly reach maturity mate with the males and the whole cycle begins again. You don't have to be in a poorly kept environment or practice poor hygene to become a scabies host. There are about 300 million cases of scabies in the world today. The medically approved treatments leave windows of opportunity for the scabies and their eggs to survive The treatment which can only be used once a week start to lose there effectiveness in 18 hours, the scabie eggs take 10 days to hatch and are not killed by the treatments.
Here is my story
After 3 treatments with the cream and pills I was still fighting with the little biting buggers I did every thing suggested plus more and still they survived. Finally it dawned on me that my lady friend and her family with whom I spend at least half of my time had not become infected "thank goodness". So why me and not them? The answer was right under my nose they are all smokers that's all smokers and all have nicotine in their systems.Nicotine is a deadly insecticide.I don't want to smoke but I want to rid of these little biting buggers so I put on the patch, the 21mg nicotine patch, I have been wearing it day and night for 5 days now and my symptoms now may only be my bodies immune system acting on the dead bodies and feces. I am not a scientist but do believe it could take 2 weeks on the patch to deal with any unhatched eggs. But so far during this nightmare this is the only time that I have felt very little biting and almost no crawling two sure signs that they are alive and chewing. I would guess that the hatching juveniles will have to feed before the nicotine takes effects and kills them.
The prescription meds we take have a half life of no more then 18 hours that means that any eggs that hatch out or any mites that may be on rugs, clothing, furniture, bedding ect could still re-infect you since the mite can live without a host for 72 hours and the eggs can take 10 days or more to hatch out. The patch should continue to put a deadly poison in your blood and any where that the blood circulates to for as long as you use it.
So far the patch has greatly reduced almost to the point of where I feel little to no biting or crawling. The medical field is limited to what it can do treat these little biting buggers. Our minds are only limited by our failure to use them.
Researching has shown me that there are patents in effect now that cover using nicotine as a treatment on humans to deal with scabies, other mites, bedbugs and lice. Why they are not being used to treat scabies,other mites, bedbugs,lice and other parasites may have to do with the fact that a 14 day supply of 21mg nicotine patches can be purchased for as little as $35.00. One treatment of the cream costs me over $113.00 x 3=$339 dollars. I can't remember the cost of the prescription pills but it is around $80.00 x 3 =$240.00 dollars. Not counting the sprays and disinfectants I used that adds up to a whopping $579.00. So draw your own conclusions on why the patch has not been used not just to treat but to CURE scabies? Helpful hint prescription meds $579.00 dollars to treat opposed to $35.00 to eradicate the little biting buggers once and for all.
The nicotine patch is available across the counter with no prescription, I am not the doctor in my family so just be sure that you are medically able to wear the patch safely.

Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#232 May 16, 2013
losing my sanity wrote:
That's bs because I've been a heavy smoker for 10 yrs and I'm being bit to shit by mites.
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I don't know what you have tried to get rid of the scabies. For how long you have had them.Just applying cream and or taking the pill is not enough. We went through this whole house changing out bed lining every day,clothes went from being worn right to a plastic bag along with towels and wash clothes. We encased our box springs in plastic and put zippered plastic mattress covers on our mattresses. All furniture was covered in plastic. We put on plastic gloves in the morning and left them on until we went to bed,we keep socks and a slipper or shoes on all the time,We have sprayed the carpets with Lysol. We shower every day.Every thing wasable goes into thw washing machine on a hot water cycle and then into the dryer on high temperature. All of the above plus and we still had the scabies.

Smoking for me was never an option I quit 12 years ago so I and my younger brother who also quit smoking before me, started using the 21mg nicotine patch a week ago, I might as you so nicely said be full of BS but I no longer have the scabies and neither does my younger brother.

It's a free world I just wanted to offer an alternate treatment to others who have have had a hard time getting rid of this biting little monster, There was a tremendous amount of research done by the person or company who have a patent on using micotine as an human pesticide.

Good luck, I hope you rid yourself of this monster, mine is gone, nicotine appears to be the reason.
Troubled mum

Brisbane, Australia

#233 May 25, 2013
I think we have gotten rid of the blitters. I have 4 kids at home. For the last week I have put everything thru the dryer. Scrubbed house in bleach from top to toe and vacuumed mattresses couches computer chairs and surface sprayed every inch of soft furnishings. Bagged all soft toys etc. washed out bathrooms in bleach daily.. We treated and are going to re treat tonight. But no one in house is itchy and no new bites. I agree good old fashioned elbow grease and being diligent and hygienic are the best course of action. It has been a lot of hard work. We even tracked down the source of the scabies source. They however have only chosen to do the child who has them so I will prob be doing this again:( until they decide to treat their family and put in the hard yards. But a big thank you to all the helpful ppl who have given information and support.
Troubled mum

Brisbane, Australia

#234 May 25, 2013
I am a heavy smoker so is my hubby. Our eldest son is also a smoker. We all got scabies and had them a while until doc told us what is was. Sorry to blow the nicotine theory out. I was wearing patches in an attempt to quit when I caught them:(
patty

Salem, OH

#235 Jun 1, 2013
stormyg wrote:
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I think this describes thousands of us out here, totally confused, shocked, ignored, treated with contempt, and we are wore out, wore down, out of time and energy to combat something we are getting so many different views on, with no concrete, real help!
I agree. I am the only one in my family that has got this. My family thought I was losing my mind that I was not being bitten and that it was all in my mind. My boys are older so we did not share anything so maybe that is why no one else got it. I let a homeless women sleep in my car. I felt sorry for her. I think I have body lice and scabes.(But it is in my hair too)I have health issues that pesticides are not an option. I think some people forget not everyone can use the pesticide treatments...I am making progress against it but not totally able to get rid of it. I will try everything that seems safe....I am smart enough to not do anything crazy ...but I agree...this takes over your life and no one understands.
patty

Salem, OH

#236 Jun 1, 2013
VSS wrote:
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I disagree totally. When someone first gets these mites, the very first thing you try, is permethrin cream prescribed by any doctor, including low income clinics.
It usually does NOT cause a rash, and generally, people are not allergic to permethrin.
The only reason you said that it caused you irritation, is because you want to push some natural essential oil cure, where you can buy these things from a whole foods place, or a vitamin shop either on the street or online, where most of you people here are pushing stuff like this, so you can make money from people who have scabies and are desperate.
These so called essential oils only prolong the infestation, until it gets out of hand. Then the people are basically screwed.
The people on this forum, like Canuckette, who keeps saying that natural is the way to go, have compromised immunities. She keeps saying that "this" works (meaning borax/h202) or (homeopathy works), when in reality, someone like her who has morgellons or a compromised immunity, NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK.
But, to come on the forum and start pushing neem and tea tree oil, when the person has not even tried the standard permethrin and ivermectin cure, is absolutely ridiculous.
Go see a derm and get your meds and treat. In between treatments, use the tea tree oil and neem oil with a carrier oil, but, with scabies you need to knock them out fast and move on with your life.
This poster says that they had a "terrible" case of scabies. When you have a "terrible" case of scabies, neem and tea tree oil doesn't do the job you think it will do. For most people permethrin does not cause skin rashes or irritation. The neem oil stinks and doesn't work. The tea tree oil is just an adjunct to the real meds needed to kills these mites.
Only for trolls who are pushing the so-called natural cures, does the permethrin causes "a horrible rash."
And when you tell people not to use "mineral oil," don't you think you should give an explanation for that statement? To just bluntly tell people not to use a mineral oil and not explain WHY, seems irresponsible to me.
But all this is just my opinion and I don't know anything, so don't take my word for it.
You are the one making the money.....we are coming up with inexpensive alternatives...stop blocking us from getting options...I have medical reasons why I can not use the pesticide...so stop!!!!!

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA

#237 Jun 1, 2013
losing my sanity wrote:
I gave up... it never really went away. I have more bites then ever. What do they look like? I haven't seen anything. Every time i feel something bite the crap out of me i look and don't see anything. I was thinking of taking pictures of my bites and get some feedback on what it is. Maybe i have some other mite.
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Hey Sweety, I have had some good luck with MSM liquid (trimedica), this what I am doing:

1) Applying it after a shower, morning and night, I have much less crawling so far.

2) Taking it internally since thursday , I put two capfulls (equal to two tablespoons) in my fresh watermelon juice (morning), and within 10 minutes I started feeling better overall, I am serious.

Please try this, more than anything else, including my Clove bud oil/coconut oil regime and my DE/grapeseed oil regime, applying MSM and drinking it, so far is working a lil better than both...

It is worth a try, I would suggest after you apply the MSM liquid all over your body including face and scalp, that you stand there for a few minutes and let it dry into your skin before you get get dressed, go to sleep or start walking around. Also, please try it internally as well, mix two tablespoons into your juice each morning.

This is worth a try really, don't know if it is a cure, but I am telling you, I feel better than before.

God bless you

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA

#238 Jun 1, 2013
Also, I just wanted to add, that last week I shampooed my carpet with Resolve solution, a lil water, clove leaf oil (a few capfulls) and half a pippet of 45% permethrin (I know this is crazy thats why I only mixed in half). Anyway, the carpet, seems to be cleaner than ever and for some reason I feel this may be attributed to less crawling and biting (I was down to a few bites here and there).

I also clean everything with windex and 91% alcohol mixed together , walls, flip flops etc. The stuff I cannot really clean I bag up.

In the bathroom I use bleach wipes and the windex/alcohol solution.

Also, I my ears at night, I use 17% camphor (bought at an Asian store), I don't go all the way in with the q-tip to clean inside the ear, just partially in, in order to coat my inner ears with the camphor.

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA

#239 Jun 1, 2013
Also, you must keep all rooms ( your tracks ) very clean, for example, the computer room, computer, monitor, keyboard , mouse you use, chair you sit in, everything your touch must be clean before yous it in it, and wipe clean with bleach wipes after you get up. Same with my leather chair in the living room, everything I sit in or touch has to be cleaned when you get up and before you sit down. I wear flip slops at home, after work and on weekends, I wear these rubber things every wear..I spray the bottom and inside them before I stick my feet in them. Before I leave the house in the morning, I spray them in the bathroom with the windex/91% alcohol solution, bottom and inside. You also have to vacuum very day every morning and nitely if you can. I know this whole thing is so exhausting, it would be easier to give up, but don't. Stay persistent. The $1 dollar stores carry window cleaner and you can add the 91% alcohol to that. In my laundry I either use ammonia or bleach as an additive, and borax when I have it. just do not mix ammonia and bleach together. In shower use 10% sulfer, leave it for a few minutes and stand there, before rinsing off, use selsun blue or sulfer shampoo on head. DO NOT USE DULL RAZORS, if you think may may be dull, throw them out. If you shave make sure you have a new razor and only shave over the 10% sulfer soapy lather, this way you don't spread any mites.

Hope this helps.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#240 Jun 1, 2013
patty wrote:
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You are the one making the money.....we are coming up with inexpensive alternatives...stop blocking us from getting options...I have medical reasons why I can not use the pesticide...so stop!!!!!
I'm not making any money here. "We"? Who they hell are you? There are plenty of miticides/scabicides you can use. You don't have to use just permethrin. There's Eurax, Malathion Lotion, Ivermectin, Eprinex. You go ahead and dab that tea tree oil on yourself, and see where that gets you. Because your immunity is not up to par, means that these oils will not do squat for you. Stop what? You stop it, punk.
Look at the Poor Man's Protocol; it may help you with "medical reasons."
mms dude

Terre Haute, IN

#241 Jun 2, 2013
cindilu wrote:
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I've used 45% Permethrin for the past five (5) months! Does not cure!
what about mms?

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