ivermectin dosage chart and info
Miss diagnosis

Des Moines, IA

#421 Oct 18, 2013
Why:
I was initially infected by someone I was daily in close proximity to at a weekend retreat and shared a space with. They were constantly itching. Night one I had 3 large bites form on my ankles that I thought were chiggers; I went to bathroom and put baking soda on them, they minimized greatly by next morning; The next day, another person broke out in a rash that resembled staph. That person and I went to the health store; at the health store, the back of my arm appeared to have the same thing. We got apple cider vinegar and blended it with bentonite clay for a head to toe body mask. The next day, our previous symptoms subsided, but we noticed another individual repeatedly scratching (elbows, face, junk, knees, arms, torso); I asked what was up and this person said they had eczema. Fishy, we noticed more people who'd sat where that person was that were itching + scratching too. By the end of our retreat, new bumps had formed. Instinctually, it felt like crawling sensations. After seeing my doctor when I returned, they confirmed it was scabies.

I initially treated with permethrin; my symptoms because I caught them within 5 days of contact appeared like I would miss the horror that could've met me. Wrong. The contagious person had affected other people at the retreat center that had gone previous than me and had contact with the SAME individual and the center had not notified (as it was confirmed eczema was infact Norwegian scabies, the difference of 5-50 mites average scabies infection to millions of mites). I became reinfected because these people were NEVER told and presented zero symptoms for weeks). I believe this has something to do with my immune system (it's lower due to a previous parasitic lad discovery early this year plus a highly stressful career where self care takes a back burner).

1 month out, I awoke to many subcutaneous bumps that were pussing and itchy. I retreated with 5% perm; began aggressively taking my wormwood black walnut herb and burned my skin with clove oil.

It took 3 weeks more to get my skin rehydrated and the skin infection to heal.
Glassoul clay, tamanu oil, boaboa oil, and rose hips and aloe vera juice internal/external were essential. Rose hips would make many mites surface after simply applying it straight to the skin. After wiping with cotton balls and apple cider vinegar, I'd apply it to my skin, voila- I proved to my partner right before their eyes what I knew: mites were thriving off of me! 3-10 little black microscopic and translucent dots would surface (oh the horror!)

Prior to the intense eruption, I used cayenne pepper scrubs in cold showers which would minimize the spots and revel burrows if timing was on followed by my oil blend.
Miss diagnosis

Des Moines, IA

#422 Oct 18, 2013
My direct protocol now will be:
Protocol A--Day 1 -7: cayenne pepper scrub bumps visible below skin with enzyme face mask; rinse cool water, wait 30 min to do shower protocol, oil, clothing,(go to work), hydrate aloe water juice, take liver herbs in am, vitamins with food midday, hydrate well, evening tanning (day 3 or 4 sauna to sweat) bath protocol with aloe elixir, herbs+antibiotic; shower protocol, cottonswab apple cider vinegar to rub off dead skin or mites that have surfaced, air dry then sulfur rub + diatomaceous earth clothing on (white is best) 1 hr before bed 14mg ivermectin take with Benadryl
Protocol B--Day 8: 1/2 tbsp tincture wormwood, black walnut, clove orally, then cayenne pepper scrub all areas where scabies bumps, rash, or itching has been present with enzyme face mask , rinse cool water, wait 30 min to do shower protocol, oil, clothing,(go to work), hydrate aloe water juice, take liver herbs in am, vitamins with food midday, hydrate well, evening tanning, bath protocol with aloe elixir, herbs+antibiotic; shower protocol, air dry then sulfur rub + diatomaceous earth, chlortrimeton to prevent itchy sensations/sleep
Protocol C--Days 9/10: cayenne pepper scrub all areas where scabies bumps, rash, or itching has been present with enzyme face mask, rinse cool water, wait 30 min to do shower protocol, oil, clothing,(go to work), hydrate aloe water juice, take liver herbs in am, vitamins with food midday, hydrate well, evening tanning, bath protocol with aloe elixir, herbs+antibiotic; shower protocol, air dry then sulfur rub + diatomaceous earth, chlortrimeton to prevent itchy sensations/sleep
Days 11-14, 18-21, 25-28 repeat protocol A
Days 15, 22, 29: repeat protocol B
Days 16-17, 23-24, 30/31 : repeat protocol C
Miss diagnosis

Des Moines, IA

#423 Oct 18, 2013
Daily: launder all clothing; bedding; towels hot with tide, dry 100 min high (they hate bounce...I tied sheets of it one night to my wrist just so I wouldn't itch!)
Every final day of protocol A, vacuum + spray car
My mistake in first incurring this was a. Not following through for 30 days aggressively (I waited to wash infected personal items from retreat) b. encountering and having skin to skin contact with individuals who had been infected, reinfecting myself c. Not taking care of my immune system sooner, as I evidently had a high parasitic load.
The things that kill parasites are enzymes that affect the protein exoskeletons, clove oil if it can penetrate the surface to the mite/egg, alkalyzing agents for your blood help to minimize yeast and fungus, which in turn effect your immune system, sulfur kills them (cheap flowers of sulphur at local rx is ~$7); an oral offense becomes necessary if burrows or mite load infects hair follicles; the health of your skin (hydration and health) are necessary to heal you. Sweating is also necessary to help hatch or eliminate eggs deep in your skin. I included tanning into my protocol as I could better see burrows in the black light AND I felt like I had seasonal affective disorder, the tanning greatly improved my mood, lowered my fungal load on my skin (from using grapefruit seed extract too much, killing all bacteria)
I'll confirm at day 32. Don't be embarrassed; I have impeccable hygiene and know my body really well. Do yourself a favor and use what is prescribed and look at the sarcopic mite lifespan, be proactive with your health and do inquire with your physician of choice their experience and success rate for treating this; all physicians I consulted refused to give more than 1 tube perm and refused ivermectin, telling me it was in my head. Days 1-4 in a mites life cycle are crucial for catching them...it takes 21-29 days to catch all life cycles, regardless of how soon you caught it or how many years youve had them. Parasites are real, and everyone in society claims its a third world problem. Their in our food, water supply, and in virtually every human you encounter. We treat our dogs and cats with flea/tick prevention s and de worm them bi-annually. If scabies is your first parasitic reaction, please be preventative in your lifestyle (household sanitation, laundry, and personal hygiene, internal diet) this is the only way as a society we demand herbs and treatments that will eliminate these pests (that harbor viruses and bacterium) for good.
Fruit Jar Gal

South San Francisco, CA

#424 Oct 18, 2013
R u injecting it if so where on your body. if not injecting how did u take it.?
andreaamericangirl wrote:
there are so many people commenting here that they dont know how much ivermectin to take and so on. i have cured myself of scabies two times with ivermectin. i have had scabies 3 times in 3 and 1/2 years because i work in close contact with the homeless in san francisco and there is a very high infestation rate among them. i started out begging a dr for a prescription for stromectol but realized that was getting me nowhere and i was losing precious days/weeks trying to convince her while the scabies were reproducing and getting worse. i decided to take matters into my own hands and bought liquid ivermectin injectable meant for cattle and swine- the brand name i bought was noromectin made by norbrook. it is 1% ivermectin. you can use that brand or any other brand that is 1% ivermectin. the dosing for humans is the same as the dosing for cattle! im not a kook. ive taken it 6 times now- 3 times one week apart for the first time i used it and then when i got infested again 9 mos later 3 times one week apart for the second time i used it. you want to take it once and then again 7 days later and then again 7 days later. 21 days- once a week for 3 weeks. dont take it if you have liver disease. take it on an empty stomach and take at least 8 oz of water with it. when you do put something in your stomach a few hours after taking it try eating grapefruit or drinking grapefruit juice- it helps the ivermectin work better. you will need a hypodermic needle and syringe to draw the liquid medicine out of the bottle with. in many states/cities that are progressive and have a good attitude towards making hypo syringes avaiable to the public to decrease HIV and Hep infection you can buy a single syringe at a walgreens or other drug store- this is true of NYC and san francisco just walk up to the pharmacy counter and ask for a syringe. it costs about a dollar. if you live in the bible belt or some such place, you can get hypo syringes at any feed store or livestock supply store- they are marked "for veterinary use only" and are there for anyone of any age to buy. order online from www.farmandfleet.com if you have to. you can get your ivermectin from them too. the marks on the side of the syringe tell how many ml are in there. the smallest syringe is a 1ml diabetic syringe and that is what you will get when you ask for a syringe at walgreens in NYC or other pharmacy. it is broken down further into tenths of a ml with marks for that too which are represented by .1,.2,.3,.4,.5,.6 etc up to 1.0 which is a whole ml. the syringes from farm and fleet and other feed stores etc are bigger and hold usually 3 or more ml and are marked off with lines for each .1.2.3.4 but those numbers arent on there just the full ml numbers are so there will be nine marks with no number next to them- like the minute marks on the face of a clock then a 1ml like the 1 hour is marked by a 1, then nine more marks then a 2ml and so on. stick the needle thru the rubber top of the bottle and then draw up however much your dose is into the syringe using the numbers and marks on the side of the syringe as a guide.
Miss Diagnosis

United States

#425 Oct 18, 2013
She is not injecting/mixing into liquid is what all other posts stated.
ppink089

Ireland

#426 Oct 27, 2013
Ok. I have had scabies for 7 years. Was given it by somebody who tho.ks it dont exist. Looking at his parents i think thats because he was born.with it. I have an 11 yr old boy who has had it 7 yrs also. Now our cat has finally got it also. I habe tried every legal treatment out there.but if i take the cat to the vets he will treat her for mande and it will come back from us. I have goven up pn the doctors and have some hourse ivermectin on the way. Obviously i dont want to kill any of us.but i m most worried i will kill my cat.but she is getti.g so bad she will die in end anyway and i cant do us without her. I know it has killed dogs. Has anybody used it on.a cat.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#427 Oct 27, 2013
ppink089 wrote:
Ok. I have had scabies for 7 years. Was given it by somebody who tho.ks it dont exist. Looking at his parents i think thats because he was born.with it. I have an 11 yr old boy who has had it 7 yrs also. Now our cat has finally got it also. I habe tried every legal treatment out there.but if i take the cat to the vets he will treat her for mande and it will come back from us. I have goven up pn the doctors and have some hourse ivermectin on the way. Obviously i dont want to kill any of us.but i m most worried i will kill my cat.but she is getti.g so bad she will die in end anyway and i cant do us without her. I know it has killed dogs. Has anybody used it on.a cat.
NEVER USE HORSE IVERMECTIN ON A CAT.
You use the Ivomec and only put two tenths of a milliliter between her shoulder blades. That's only a few drops, too.
You cannot measure the horse ivermectin small enough for a ten pound cat. It's made for a horse which weighs over 1,000 pounds. Your cat will not die from sarcoptic mange. Now way. Bath her and treat her with Revolution. Take it to the vet and let the vet determine what is going on with it. Ask how to measure the dose out the ivermectin for your pets. I find it really really really hard to believe that your son has had this for seven years. Quit effing around on the net and go do your homework, kid.

Since: Sep 12

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#428 Oct 29, 2013
Well I've done 7 doses with the Noromectin using the amount for my bodyweight of 165lbs and they still remain. I haven't used them simulataneously with the permethrin because I don't have any so I"m not sure what else to try. I am thinking of getting some permethrin and using it in conjunction with ivermectin but I don't really know now.So very strange these things.I dosed once a week for the first 5 weeks and the last 2 weeks i took two doses a week. I don't quite know what I did wrong really.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#429 Oct 29, 2013
Hi, I don't have any advice because ivermectin didn't work for me by itself, but I have some questions. Do you still get lesions? Have you noticed any improvement? One thing I noticed right away is that the marks began fading after starting the meds. You had said you have a doc appt coming up. Is that soon? And if so, make sure to ask the doc to do a scraping and even a biopsy of one the lesions if possible. What is it exactly that makes you feel like they are still there?

Itching, crawlies and some lesions are part of post scabies. It feels as bad as the scabies only there's not all the red bites (only a few but that's supposed to be your skin ridding itself of the debris).

Hmmm? I was kind of hoping you'd come back with great news, I'm sorry to see this.

Since: Sep 12

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#430 Oct 29, 2013
I notice a bit of an improvement. It seems I'm still getting bites but not as many as before. I'm still itchy and crawly almost the exact same as before, so I'm assuming they are still active.
I'm still waiting on the dco appt and will def ask for a scraping.

I'm sorry to be saying this too, I was really really hoping the ivermectin would cure me. My only other idea was to up the dose. Maybe I screwed up somehow but I don't know how. I took 1.7 and even 1.8 ml my last two doses.

Since: Sep 12

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#431 Nov 3, 2013
Katee are you completely cured now do you think?
I'm thinking of trying the ALbendazole next since I don't think this is working for me, makes no sense
Katee

Homewood, IL

#432 Nov 3, 2013
Ivermectin didn't work for me alone (sorry for being redundant). However, I do still have terrible itching, and starting to get more lesions so I have no idea. I've started taking ivermectin again on weekends and it really stops it but comes back a few days later which is what happened before. Ivermectin doesn't work for me. I don't know what to think. My doc keeps telling me I don't have scabies anymore but only follicullitis, still the itching seems to be increasing and getting worse. I have another doc appt at the end of the month for something else unrelated so I'll get checked again then.

I've not heard about albendazole so just did some searching online. There are repots that patients with crusted scabies have been treated successfully with albendazole for 3 days at 800 mg but also with a topical crotamiton with salicylic acid 5 percent that is applied twice a day for a week. I'm curious now. I wonder if the addition of 5% salicylic acid is to help with treatment of the crusted skin, and maybe not needed for regular scabies. Just pondering.

I looked at Amazon and they do sell it but it would be expensive for about $5 a pill at 400 mg. The website Mike mentioned on page 13 here has it in 400 mg tabs in greater quantities and cheaper. He was ok with that site, but for me it would be hard to pull the trigger on that. I'm terrified of foreign sites having my financial information!

I wonder if you could use it along with a dose of permethrin? Not sure if crotamiton needs a prescription and I've not seen it sold with the salicylic acid added. I might try this as well and see if the itching stops.

AHA! I found the thread on albendazole and see that you found it too. It's interesting but I don't know if I would take it the way the poster suggests. Have to think about this.

Since: Sep 12

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#433 Nov 3, 2013
Yes me too. I haven't got any new bites for a few days now but I'm still itching and crawling so I'm still just as confused as ever. I'm giving it some thought and doing some more research as well.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#434 Nov 3, 2013
Sweetkitten had used it for a long amount of time, probably longer than I would feel comfortable with. The report I saw online was about one patient in paticular from Syria. Not sure if that's enough evidence for me to go on but again, when you start getting desperate you'll try anything just about. My problem is my boyfriend has it too and won't go to these lengths to cure it on him. He did the same ivermectin and permethrin treatments but only for 2 weeks, and is now getting more lesions now. He doesn't have the itching and crawling that I still have. I feel like I may find a way to cure this, but then he'll just reinfect me because he won't use anything more than what the doc says to use.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#435 Nov 3, 2013
The other thing I'm worried about is the fact that there is ivermectin resistance out there as well. And using it every weekend for a few months...don't want to end up with buggers that have built up resistance to everything! In that light, I may just switch to the albendazole to see if anything changes in my symptoms.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#436 Nov 3, 2013
I posted this on the albendazole thread so I'll post it here too. I read that if you try it, you need to take it with a HIGH FAT meal. Here it is:

You must consume 40g fatty meal w/each dose (e.g, grilled cheese sandwich, ice cream, cheese pizza, cheesecake, buttered popcorn, peanut butter, cheese, cottage cheese, whipped cream, sour cream, melted real butter, or salad dressing over food, etc). Check labels for fat gram content. Fat acts as a carrier & increases absorption & plasma concentration. If you omit this step, you'll just flush $ & meds down the drain!

OK...so there's that too. I've also read this before about ivermectin, that it should be taken with a high fat meal. So its confusing when I the directions say to take ivermectin on an empty stomach.

Anyway, gotta rake the leaves!!! Good luck. I'm going to order some and post when I use it to let people know how it goes. I may be posting on the other thread though:

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TSK...

Since: Sep 12

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#437 Nov 3, 2013
Ok Katee
Thanks for the updates, I will continue to post my updates as they come as well, I hope it ends soon completely for us

Since: Feb 12

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#438 Nov 3, 2013
Katee wrote:
The other thing I'm worried about is the fact that there is ivermectin resistance out there as well. And using it every weekend for a few months...don't want to end up with buggers that have built up resistance to everything! In that light, I may just switch to the albendazole to see if anything changes in my symptoms.
The Albendazole / Valbazen will kill all the mites and eliminate your symptoms so you can live a normal healthy life. Make sure you take the liquid, not the tablet because the human body doesn't digest the tablets well. And make sure you have plenty of Amoxicillin 500mg to treat bacterial infections caused by the daily die off.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#439 Nov 3, 2013
Katee wrote:
Sweetkitten had used it for a long amount of time, probably longer than I would feel comfortable with. The report I saw online was about one patient in paticular from Syria. Not sure if that's enough evidence for me to go on but again, when you start getting desperate you'll try anything just about. My problem is my boyfriend has it too and won't go to these lengths to cure it on him. He did the same ivermectin and permethrin treatments but only for 2 weeks, and is now getting more lesions now. He doesn't have the itching and crawling that I still have. I feel like I may find a way to cure this, but then he'll just reinfect me because he won't use anything more than what the doc says to use.
There is a virulent strain of scabies out there and you will need to treat for about five months with ivermectin. Ivermectin is the key to a cure for scabies. Albendazole does NOT work as well.

Your boyfriend needs to treat longer, NOT TWO WEEKS. No way...

Since: Sep 12

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#440 Nov 3, 2013
how long are we supposed to treat vss?
does everyone need to treat for a few months with ivermectin? its really confusing and there is so much conflicting advice and reports online, i just want it to end. I've just finished month two of ivermectin and i still get the crawlies

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