ivermectin dosage chart and info
vss

Hollywood, FL

#380 Sep 30, 2013
katee,
most people on here do not end up with folliculitus and hives. come on. quit being so dramatic.

even someone who has been through alot of treatments, once they are cured, their symptoms reduce to the point of knowing, or just using some basic common sense to stop treatment, or at least slow down. But, maybe you don't have common sense? or are just prone to skin infections?? don't know; but most people KNOW when they are cured.

drama queen. chatter box.

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vss

Hollywood, FL

#381 Sep 30, 2013
katee and company. get the eff off this thread. it's an ivermectin thread... geez...
Katee

Homewood, IL

#382 Sep 30, 2013
Itchee, the 1.5 ml looks to be the right amount for your body weight. You won't feel it stop right away but it should be "better".

I guess I should have gave you a little more info. When you take it, take it on an empty stomach, at least 30 minutes before or 2 hours after food. Lots of water! I also read something that grapefruit juice helps make it more effective. It will stay in your system about 30-48 hours and I've read concentrates in your skin layers, so lots of people have said it helps to not shower for as long as possible.

Eggs won't be killed. When they hatch, those critters will be killed when you do another treatment 7 days later BEFORE they are old enough to lay more eggs. I'm not sure if there are other stages of the bugs that ivermectin doesn't kill but I suspect the young ones without a developed nervous system could survive (just a guess) which is why I did at least 4 treatments, each a week apart. Without the permethrin, maybe more treatments of ivermectin are needed to kill them at all their life stages - Mike did 2 months worth.

Don't get discouraged. There will still be some itching and crawling, just wait and do it again 7 days later, then again, then again, then again. I hope this goes smoothly for you!
Katee

Homewood, IL

#383 Sep 30, 2013
VSS, I think you should go pick a fight with someone else. I happen care about how people are dealing with all the issues surrounding this. I've had several failures with ivermectin alone and have an opinion on it. What comes after the ivermectin is just as important to people as what happens while they are doing it.

VSS, venimous sad sack. What a crumungin.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#384 Sep 30, 2013
Not your thread, who do you think you are? Oh yeah, you are scabies god who knows all jack about scabies. Like no one else has done ANY research on the subject, only you. Praise VSS, everyone bow and kiss the ring! You have no right to tell anyone to get off any thread who is trying to help others. I only came back because Itchee is someone I know and asked a question.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#385 Sep 30, 2013
get off this ivermectin thread, jerk. that's my opinion.

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Katee

Homewood, IL

#386 Sep 30, 2013
Ummm, actually some people do end up with hives after scabies treatment, there's a thread on that too. Gonna go there and pick a fight too?
Katee

Homewood, IL

#387 Sep 30, 2013
If I was LIKE YOU I would think EVERYONE gets folliculitis after a bout of scabies, and then I could tell them to just get over it. So you come here such a big bad bully, hiding behind your TINY keyboard. Not everyone is like you or had your experience and you should get off people's backs. I can't figure out why you even bother.

Everyone, if you want to be told to get over it, say hi to vss. I've got no more use for you, ignoring you from now on, you're no one, zilch, non-person, just another scabie, a pest. You get off bully.

Since: Sep 12

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#388 Oct 1, 2013
Thanks so much Katee, I appreciate every response and it definitely helps. I plan on doing another round this weekend. I hope the nightmare ends soon for me too.
relief at last

Kissimmee, FL

#389 Oct 1, 2013
Katee wrote:
If I was LIKE YOU I would think EVERYONE gets folliculitis after a bout of scabies, and then I could tell them to just get over it. So you come here such a big bad bully, hiding behind your TINY keyboard. Not everyone is like you or had your experience and you should get off people's backs. I can't figure out why you even bother.
Everyone, if you want to be told to get over it, say hi to vss. I've got no more use for you, ignoring you from now on, you're no one, zilch, non-person, just another scabie, a pest. You get off bully.
Katee-I also appreciate your posts and have felt very grateful for the support of you and others on this forum while trying to deal with this. Nobody really understands unless they have been through it. Thank you and please keep posting.
scabiephobiagirl

Elmendorf Afb, AK

#390 Oct 2, 2013
Katee wrote:
VSS, you are reading things into posts than aren't there. When I said it is difficult to deal with post scabies, I meant it. During post scabies, you still itch, your skin still feels crawly, you don't know if you are truly cured or not and you have to retrain your brain to stop putting chemicals on yourself everytime you feel something weird. It IS DIFFICULT because you need to tell yourself to refrain from treating and just heal. The post scabies part that is difficult is the part in your head, ending the war.
Some people are cured after a short amount of time, some people have some real skin damage from dealing over a long amount of time like I did with failure after failure from improper treatments and resistant mites. I ended up with a bad case of folliculitis, and now hives. Don't sit there in your judgment and tell me this is not tricky. I'm glad it was easy for you, but you are not the whole world, everyone's experiences are different. What do you do, just pop in to pick a fight every now and then?
I agree that it shouldn't be hard, but people don't all know what to do. They have no healthcare, or they have clueless doctors. Many people (like me) started feeling like they didn't want to live anymore and all they are looking for is hope and an answer. I'm cured, yes, well pretty sure, but I went through heck getting here because I had a lot of $%#@ obstacles that I'm sure others could benefit to know about. If you have positive help to offer people who really are lost and don't know what to do, offer it. Otherwise, you don't know jack about anyone else here to the point of quoting them and judging them, thanks...
I have had a very similar experience. Got scabies about a year ago and am pretty sure I am experiencing post scabies now. It is almost as bad as scabies. I live in fear that every new bump is still scabies. I h as ve a check list I go through in my head: Does it itch? Any new burrows? Anybody else get them from me? Are the bumps different? And the hard one is will it go away by itself if I just leave it alone? I think all the neurotoxins are making us have these compulsive behaviors. And Fred is not nuts. I sincerely hope most of us are just experiencing post scabie syndrome. It has made me nuts! Or nuttier, lol.
scabiephobiagirl

Elmendorf Afb, AK

#391 Oct 2, 2013
I go through the checklist to convince myself I really am scabie free. I did everything everybody else is doing. Now I'm doing a liver detox. I read something recently that said most skin problems are a result of a liver problem. So if you've had scabies a long time and took lots of insecticides you may have a long road ahead of you and you need to do a liver detox over a long period of time at the very least. And take Fred seriously. I looked up some of the things he was talking about and that's what helped me to finally see that I need to quit treating the outside and take care of the inside (thanks Fred if you're still out there). Hope this helps someone.
Mike

Victor, MT

#392 Oct 2, 2013
As I mentioned previously, Fred does know what he is talking about. Some on here have given him quite a bit of flack, but I believe the guy! My Derm appointment I had last week went great, and I am only taking some Allegra (1 pill) in the am, Hydroxazine (1 pill pm), Tagament ((3 times a day)morning, lunch time, and pm. Also prescribed vani-cream bar soap for using once per day in shower, vani-cream lite for face (use once a day), and vani-cream "regular" (for body use)once a day. It was great to find a derm who only charged $61.00 US Dollars for my first visit. Just thought I would share this. She says out skin has memory, and since we have been itching for so long, that the skin retains that memory, and will continue to itch, The hydroxazine and the tagament are prescriptions. The alklegra is over the counter as well as the vani creams would be. I got it all at Walmart, but they had to order in the vani products, which took over night. Hopes this info helps someone.
Mike

Victor, MT

#393 Oct 2, 2013
alklegra=Allegra
vss

Hollywood, FL

#394 Oct 2, 2013
Mike wrote:
As I mentioned previously, Fred does know what he is talking about. Some on here have given him quite a bit of flack, but I believe the guy! My Derm appointment I had last week went great, and I am only taking some Allegra (1 pill) in the am, Hydroxazine (1 pill pm), Tagament ((3 times a day)morning, lunch time, and pm. Also prescribed vani-cream bar soap for using once per day in shower, vani-cream lite for face (use once a day), and vani-cream "regular" (for body use)once a day. It was great to find a derm who only charged $61.00 US Dollars for my first visit. Just thought I would share this. She says out skin has memory, and since we have been itching for so long, that the skin retains that memory, and will continue to itch, The hydroxazine and the tagament are prescriptions. The alklegra is over the counter as well as the vani creams would be. I got it all at Walmart, but they had to order in the vani products, which took over night. Hopes this info helps someone.
None of this will cure scabies, but you go ahead and treat for allergies. Good luck with that.
The cure for scabies is Elimite Permethrin Cream 5% and if you have a virulent strain of scabies, use ivermectin stromectol. These two meds cure scabies. Most of the posts on this forum are from people who are selling products which do not cure. It's a group of people posting here that want you to treat from the inside out. That's all well and good, but you need tried and true scabicides to treat scabies. If you want to get healthy, following all of Fred's posts on here, but it doesn't cure scabies.
All the very lengthy posts are from the same people just citing story after story, which is the same thing over and over here for a very long time, 3 years, as a matter of fact.
Every once in a while they will post a link that sells sulphur soap, or naturasil, or another website that sells Kleen Green like Natural Genesis - it's all disguised in their postings. Alot are from diatamaceous earth sale people. Some of their posts seem real and you can easily get caught up in it. I am very surprised that they have people wasting their time on this forum with such nonsense.
It's alot of pyscho babble. That seems an appropriate word for it. Pyscho babble. But, if it works, and they make a few bucks with it, then have at it. Just warning the newbies here what's going on.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#395 Oct 2, 2013
scabiephobiagirl wrote:
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I have had a very similar experience. Got scabies about a year ago and am pretty sure I am experiencing post scabies now. It is almost as bad as scabies. I live in fear that every new bump is still scabies. I h as ve a check list I go through in my head: Does it itch? Any new burrows? Anybody else get them from me? Are the bumps different? And the hard one is will it go away by itself if I just leave it alone? I think all the neurotoxins are making us have these compulsive behaviors. And Fred is not nuts. I sincerely hope most of us are just experiencing post scabie syndrome. It has made me nuts! Or nuttier, lol.
No, Fred is not nuts.... well, he could be. What he did was to take a very active forum and use it as he went through a mid-life crisis. He never had scabies, but was fighting a bacterial infection and used this forum as his platform. Now he posts a picture of himself on a blog, as if he is now finished with his mid-life crisis. He used tinctures to fight his infections and pulled all of us on here down with him. No, he's not nuts. He's a selfish, self-centered character who used this forum for his personal mid-life crisis.
Kaywood

Clermont, FL

#396 Oct 2, 2013
jennifer wrote:
I agree that ivermectin is the way to go . The equine paste can be purchased at Tractor supply or at amazon . It is cheap and safe and same as the overpriced drug . I also agree it may take a dose a week for three or four weeks .
Doctors are largely clueless about how tenacious this organism is .
I like the Durvet apple flavor and it is easy to dose . Just use the marks on syringe same as horse weight . It has a good margin of safety even if you dose it a bit high .
Hey...I did the same thing! Only I ate Half the Tube of Horse Ivermectin first day! Then 2nd day 1/4. I have Myasis! It is a foreign Parasite that the Doctors wont even believe me long enough to look at my skin. It doesn't show up on Biopsies. That's the Nature of the Beast. It's listed as "Rare" in the United States and will remain listed that way because NO ONE will believe anyone who contracts it! It is from a Fly. Look it up! The Fly population will double in Florida in year. So many Pestisides are being used to stop Myasis in Cattle to protect the Milk & Beef industry, that Flies are looking for new Hosts to complete their Life Cycle. The new Hosts are...Humans! It is as Common as the Cold in Foreign countries. It is the heat and Humidity that will make it so in Florida and Texas as well. We must make People and Doctors aware of this so thehy stop throwing truely sick People into Psych Wards for having a Real Parasite!
Katee

Homewood, IL

#397 Oct 4, 2013
Hi Itchee, did you get any relief from the ivermectin? Any side effects? Any updates would definitely help some people.

Mike, that's kind of a new one to me. I hadn't heard that about skin "memory", just heard the your skin itches from continuing allergic reaction while it purges out the dead stuff.

I keep thinking I'm reinfected, so itchy and crawly still and starting to get bumps on my back again dammit. Pretty sure I'm over the other thing (hives) now, so I don't know what's going on. The doctor keeps saying there's no way anything is still alive after 4 treatments of permethrin/stromectol together. Like Scabiephobiagirl says, it feels just as bad now as it did before I did the meds but gonna NOT treat again.

Scabiephobiagirl, how long has it been since your last treatment? Just wondering how long it lasts.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#398 Oct 4, 2013
Scabiesphobiagirl, not too long ago I would have never considered liver detox but my boyfriend really wants me to get a liver function test because I've taken so many harsh pesticides and meds for the last 1.5 years with this. That's why I get so mad at the medical community!! If my first doctor had done it the right way, I would not have used so much. It's important to ASK them straight out before you go in for your doc appt... have you dealt with scabies before, how much, and have you actually cured it. My last doc did. The pathetic thing is I work in corporate healthcare, the FIVE docs I saw were colleagues or recommended by colleagues. I am so discouraged by the whole thing.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#399 Oct 5, 2013
Hi Katee

I was actually going to post an update today. Its hard to say actually. I took my second dose today same amount. During the week I was still itchy but some days it seemed I was less itchy than usual but I'm not 100% if that was the ivermectin or my hope. I hate how confusing this nightmare is. I didn't have any side effects at all from the ivermectin except a slight headache, but that might have been unrelated anyway. I'll update again today if I get another headache.I think I only got a small bump on my back during the week so that could be a good sign but its probably still too early to tell. I will update again and I hope you are feeling better as well. Everyone needs this to be over.

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