ivermectin dosage chart and info
lairiesellock

United States

#359 Sep 25, 2013
paranoid wrote:
I really think people who are misdiagnosed need to write letters to the cdc and board of dermatology. The level of ignorance physicians have about this condition is an embarrassment to the profession
very true the ignorance of dermatologist is over rated. Its more like there are to many skin disorders to make an accurate diagnosis of these parisites when you have psoriasis over 85% of your body and they mimic scabies so the dermatologist leaves the room scratching his head thinking wow I have failed this person. A big no there cuz these guys were awesome and still are. So yes and no to your post. Just saying.Thanks for listening . oh and I have to do seven pills for two days wish me luck.
Mike

Helmville, MT

#360 Sep 26, 2013
I'm thinking we are over whatever it was, but just wanna a check up, basically. She didn't find much. Gave us a prescription for some pills, and some lotions for our skin. Check back with her in three weeks. No big itching now, anyway. Good Luck with your issue.
Honey

Springfield, NJ

#361 Sep 26, 2013
Mike wrote:
I'm thinking we are over whatever it was, but just wanna a check up, basically. She didn't find much. Gave us a prescription for some pills, and some lotions for our skin. Check back with her in three weeks. No big itching now, anyway. Good Luck with your issue.
Mike you should post your cure story on the cure thread for 2013 it's good to have one central place were newbies can see what worked for others.
Congrats on getting cured!
Mike

Missoula, MT

#362 Sep 27, 2013
Honey, my posts all along have done just that, except I get responses that I am lying or just a troll. I honestly came here for help, and have tried to give back to the forum, but of course,get told i'm trying to spam when I tell everyone where I bought the ivermectin without prescription, after they asked. Someone asked me where to buy the iver, and I told them. Next thing I get responses that I am spamming and trolling. I still come back here, but I have noticed a lot of BS here too. One thing I will post here is that all these people giving Fred such a bad time really need to think about what he is posting. I had my doubts at first about him, myself. I have come to believe that Fred is here to try and help others. Many of the things he has posted I have found were the case with me. I just wish people here could get along better as it would do us all a favor by possibly helping us to get cured. I also believe many here don't actually have scabies. Some people here may have a combination of other things going on, or have been misdiagnosed by either themselves or a Doctor.

Since: Sep 12

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#363 Sep 27, 2013
Mike what kind of ivermectin did you use?
I tried looking through older posts but couldn't find it.
SufferingImmense ly

Portland, OR

#364 Sep 27, 2013
andreaamericangirl wrote:
oh and the second and third times i got it i knew what i had right away because i was familiar with the symptoms so i was able to take the ivermectin within 3 weeks the second time and within days the third time. i didnt even have to see a doctor the third time, i knew. and please dont think i re-infested myself because i was cured for 2 years between the first and second times and i was cured for 9 months between the second and third times. each time it gets easier and shorter and the third time i wasnt even itchy, i just noticed i had about 5 red bumps that came up and itched after a really hot shower so i quickly dosed with ivermectin and i didnt really have any itching at all except that one time in the shower and then in the shower a few times for like 2weeks after that. i get it from my contact with the homeless and i will probably get it again but now i know that its no big deal, just dose properly with ivermectin and throw everything that can be thrown in the drier on hot for 20 min. i dont even spray with pesticides, clean with borax, nothing beyond normal cleaning, because i realized by looking at how the same mite sarcoptes scabiei is treated in livestock, they dont clean the pasture with bleach, they dont bleach the barn or the stalls that the horses are in, they dont put the saddle in the drier, they just dose the horse or cows with ivermectin properly and the host cant support the mites, they die off. its that simple. the two main reason people get re-infested is because they are using things like permethrin and arm and hammer detergent that dont work to kill all the mies, just most or some. also there are asymptomatic carriers who are crawling with scabies and never develop symptoms which means they are never itchy, they never get bumps or pustules or anything but they are conagious! im sorry that ivermectin is not being used by doctors to treat scabies or head lice because it would make things so much easier on everyone- esp school childern who are missing school. there is plenty of info out there about permethrin resistant lice and permethrin resistant scabies i dont know for the life of me why the doctors havent got this yet- as far as ivermectin being perscribed for either condition- it has to do with the FDA approving it for use for those conditions- if you walk into a doctors office infested with the parasite that causes river blindness which many third world children adopted by parents from the U.S. are- then the doctor sends you home with ivermectin to give to your little new son or daughter but if you come in 3 months later with the same child and he or she had contracted lice or scabies at daycare, you can forget about getting ivermectin from the same doctor for the same child. its madness, but maybe will change soon. in the meantime, there is ivermectin available at the feed and farm stores.
Andrea, I've done so many treatments with permethrin, but I can't wash all my things. Some of my things are irreplaceable pashminas from other countries. I've destroyed so much of my clothing washing and drying on high. I'm a poor college student and I just wanted to drink the ivermectin and be DONE. I've spent hundreds of dollars trying to eradicate these things and I am over it. Please tell me just drinking it is sufficient. Please.
Mike

Helena, MT

#365 Sep 27, 2013
I will need to look back and find the website I ordered it from if anyone wants to know. I placed three orders from them, and never had any issues. The ivermectin comes from India and takes about three weeks to arrive. It is sealed just like it would be if you bought it here. I want to say it said "merck" on the back of the foil. I felt safe using it. I made sure to order enough for two months, so I was sure to kill the entire life cycle. That was my problem before, as I tried to take it for shorter periods of time, but never caught the whole life cycle. The permethrin cream 5% only helped a little for me, but they were back within weeks. I had used it three different times.

Since: Sep 12

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#367 Sep 28, 2013
Yeah I saw that they don't ship to Canada right now.
I'm going to try the Noromectin Injectible liquid I just got and hope that works before I try the India route.Thanks for finding it for me tho Mike.
SufferingImmense ly

Portland, OR

#368 Sep 28, 2013
Okay, can ANYONE tell me if I drank my first dose of ivermectin liquid:

1. Is itching afterward and the next day normal (I drank it yesterday afternoon)?

2. Will I still feel any crawlies or does that diminish each week?

3. Do I have to go on a crazy cleaning rampage and wash every single article of my clothing on hot and dry them on high heat? Or can I get away with only washing the clothes I've worn and that are actually dirty?

4. Should I do this once a week for a month, or longer? These are neurotoxins we are putting in our bodies, and one too many and your brain is broken. I'd like to keep my very awesome brain, but at the same time be scabie free.

Please, anyone?

Since: Sep 12

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#369 Sep 28, 2013
What did you drink? and how much?
I haven't drank it yet so I'm not sure.

Since: Sep 12

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#370 Sep 28, 2013
Katee are you still around?
I've got my Noromectin injectible but I'm not sure I want to try it. It says right on it NOT TO BE TAKEN BY HUMANS. It makes me nervous its the 50 ml 1% version. Does anyone have any positive experience with the injectible taken internally by drinking?
Katee

Homewood, IL

#371 Sep 29, 2013
I did take the injectible mixed in some juice. It was fine for me. There's not a lot of choices available if you don't see a doctor. Natural cures are BS, tried them all and mad as heck about it. As someone who used both stromectol and ivermectin, the reaction was the same for both. A little achy in the lower back for a couple days after the first usage, not so much during the subsequent usages. I was worried about the achiness because I think the med is hard on your liver and/or kidneys, but it was exactly the same ache from stromectol pills as it was from the ivermectin injectible liquid. I do believe it is the same medicine.

I didn't personally have a problem because of the warning on the label. All the brands of ivermectin have that warning. Warnings are often to cover butts, not because of danger, IMO. I had gotten to the point of desperation quite frankly and didn't care anymore.

I had a very bad reaction to the ivermectin paste, broke out in a rash around my midsection every time I tried that stuff. I DONT recommend it.

I feel I am still cured as of now. I had a doctor's prescription of Stromectol and permethrin, together. Two times, a week apart. But then, because I was paranoid it wouldn't work, I had gotten the injectible ivermectin online from Amazon and used it again 2 more times, a week apart. I also happened to have extra permethrin, so all in all I used both meds together 4 weeks in a row. My whole family and boyfriend did the treatment for only 2 weeks.

From my experience with ivermectin in the past, it DID NOT work for me by itself. It didn't work until I paired it with the permethrin. The two together did the trick. Like Mike said, maybe you have to use ivermectin for a longer amount of time if you use it alone. I personally would have been afraid to use it more than the 4 weeks in a row.

Following my treatments, still itched, still felt crawly, still was getting itchy red bumps but they were bigger. My doc biopsied 4 of those bumps and all 4 biopsies came back as folliculitis. He said that this is not uncommon after scabies.

What I am dealing with now is hives, constant and spreading and I can't make them go away. Talk about itchy!! So much worse than what I had before but this is only because I had a severe allergic reaction to an antibiotic that the doctor gave me for the folliculitis (cephalexin). I am taking prednisone and antihistimines to deal with this now.

Aside from the hive welts, I no longer have any red bumps and my skin is cleared up. I used to have a lot of scars that are faded and almost gone now. I can't speak to whether I still itch or not because I have other issues going on. It seems though that the only itching I have now is in the areas where the hives are, but it's hard to tell. Doc said I would have itching for some time. I have resisted using more ivermectin or permethrin and am happy that the red bumps are gone.

I had seen that permethrin can be also be bought on Amazon, but I don't know if it is any good. Also, it is in tubes half the size of the American permethrin, so if you buy it, make sure to get twice as much.

I really hope it works for you and ends the nightmare. I hope that telling you all what I used helps. If anything changes and I find out I'm not cured, I'll definitely keep folks informed.

God bless all.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#372 Sep 29, 2013
Just to let all know how long I had this, it was a 15 month nightmare. 5 doctors.

My last dose of ivermectin/permethrin together was on Aug 23. So it's been about a month since my last use of meds. After you're done, please read up on post scabies. That's another thing to deal with and it's not easy either. It could last a while so you'll still have to stay strong.
Mike

Missoula, MT

#373 Sep 29, 2013
Yeah, my ordeal was almost one year. The itching continued for many months after I stopped taking the ivermectin. I figured right away the itching would about be over, but that was not the case. Always wondering if I was done, still had it, etc. Pretty scary and depression to deal with. Ya, I agree the home remedy stuff doesn't work. I spent probably 2K just messing with this stuff. I should have just went to a derm to start with. Wasted a whole year dealing with this crap! Even now I itch a little, but nothing much. Biggest thing is never give up and try to stay positive while fighting this crap. I know it's tough to try to find the reason to smile, but you must!

Since: Sep 12

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#374 Sep 30, 2013
Well I did my first dose of the Noromectin yesterday but I'm not sure if I did it right or not. I also don't feel any less itchy at all. I weigh about 168 pounds so I took 1 and 1/2 ml mixed in a glass of water which according to my math should be the right dose. I plan on doing the second dose but am wondering if I should take more?
vss

Hollywood, FL

#375 Sep 30, 2013
itchee wrote:
Well I did my first dose of the Noromectin yesterday but I'm not sure if I did it right or not. I also don't feel any less itchy at all. I weigh about 168 pounds so I took 1 and 1/2 ml mixed in a glass of water which according to my math should be the right dose. I plan on doing the second dose but am wondering if I should take more?
Have you read anything on ivermectin? Do you even know how it works? I suggest you study ALL the ivermectin threads on this forum. Look it up on the net and study it. Go on pet and animal forums and read about it. It is extremely effective. It all depends on the type of mite you have, how well your immunity is holding up. Many factors. If you have a virulent forum of scabies you will need to take it about six times, once a week. If your scabies are not that bad, and you can tell, then you only need about 3 doses of it. It's not about being "itchy." It about how badly you are infested, how long you have had scabies, and how your immunity is. Many factors to consider...
vss

Hollywood, FL

#376 Sep 30, 2013
Katee wrote:
Just to let all know how long I had this, it was a 15 month nightmare. 5 doctors.
My last dose of ivermectin/permethrin together was on Aug 23. So it's been about a month since my last use of meds. After you're done, please read up on post scabies. That's another thing to deal with and it's not easy either. It could last a while so you'll still have to stay strong.
I think all of you guys talk WAY TOO MUCH about post scabies. When you are done with scabies, with all the biting and itching and crawling, then you are done. The post scabies is not as bad as you all keep saying it is. What is horrible, is having a mite that is extremely virulent. That's when it gets tricky. No clove oil, tea tree oil, borax, will kill a virulent strain. Quit saying post scabies is tricky, because it isn't!!
Katee

Homewood, IL

#377 Sep 30, 2013
VSS, you are reading things into posts than aren't there. When I said it is difficult to deal with post scabies, I meant it. During post scabies, you still itch, your skin still feels crawly, you don't know if you are truly cured or not and you have to retrain your brain to stop putting chemicals on yourself everytime you feel something weird. It IS DIFFICULT because you need to tell yourself to refrain from treating and just heal. The post scabies part that is difficult is the part in your head, ending the war.

Some people are cured after a short amount of time, some people have some real skin damage from dealing over a long amount of time like I did with failure after failure from improper treatments and resistant mites. I ended up with a bad case of folliculitis, and now hives. Don't sit there in your judgment and tell me this is not tricky. I'm glad it was easy for you, but you are not the whole world, everyone's experiences are different. What do you do, just pop in to pick a fight every now and then?

I agree that it shouldn't be hard, but people don't all know what to do. They have no healthcare, or they have clueless doctors. Many people (like me) started feeling like they didn't want to live anymore and all they are looking for is hope and an answer. I'm cured, yes, well pretty sure, but I went through heck getting here because I had a lot of $%#@ obstacles that I'm sure others could benefit to know about. If you have positive help to offer people who really are lost and don't know what to do, offer it. Otherwise, you don't know jack about anyone else here to the point of quoting them and judging them, thanks...
Katee

Homewood, IL

#378 Sep 30, 2013
Geez... Mike...know how you feel! Not sure this is worth the trouble.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#379 Sep 30, 2013
Oh, I know jack about post scabies....
And I'm offering here that you guys are way way obsessing about this topic. Post scabies is NOT as difficult as all of you are making it out to be. A few of you here "chat" way too much; quite excessive to be honest. When a person is cured, and only have a few remaining symptoms, the euphoria they feel is phenominal. They have no desire to be depressed anymore. The farther away in time you are to being cured, the less the depression becomes. You all are chatting WAY WAY too much on this topic. Get over it.

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