Lyle

Missoula, MT

#253 Aug 4, 2013
I agree with what Katee is saying. We tried about everything possible, but it only prolonged what I had. After two straight months of taking ivermectin pills, I believe I am done. Tried all this other stuff in between and beforehand, but I didn't see much for results. The cream did nothing for me, so I went on to the invermectin pills. Had to buy them out of India because local doctor's would not give me a prescription for them. If you can use both the cream and the ivermectin, that should do it. My issue with the cream was, the tubes are very small, and don't cover the body well of anyone over about five foot six. I explained that to the doctor, but she acted like I was crazy. We tried the cream 3 times with not much luck, although it did slow them down. As time went on, they were back in full force. Also, the cream is sometimes hard to disperse all over the body, especially in your hair if it is long or thick. Good Luck! I personally believe the pills is what did it for me. My scabies lasted about ten months!
Katee

Homewood, IL

#254 Aug 4, 2013
I haven't used the permethrin offered on Amazon so I'm not sure of its effectiveness. I'd like to hear from anyone who has purchased it there and how it worked. Also, be aware that the ones on Amazon from "Switzerland" are sold in 30g tubes, and a regular U.S. prescription of permethrin should be 60g. You'll need at least 2 of those per person. Again, the cream is worthless in my opinion without also using ivermectin at the same time.
Hi Lyle, where were you able to get the ivermectin pills? In case others would rather do that than have to resort to animal meds. How pathetic is this that we are suffering and can't get an ounce of help from the medical community. Instead they take our money and tell us its in our heads... ching ching... thank you for the new hot tub.
RedneckN2EggFLA

Crestview, FL

#255 Aug 10, 2013
andreaamericangi rl,
You are correct that Ivermectin for cattle is the same drug used for human; however, I would suggest using the Ivermectin pour on cattle wormer. No needle needed and if you rub it on the areas you have the infection of scabies it will kill them instantly as it goes through the skin. I had scabies one time and I used the ivermectin pour on an used it in the areas I had the infection. The drug is a transdermal drug, meaning it is absorbed through the skin. As the drug is absorbed in the it kills the scabies mite on contact. My infection was limited to my legs at the time I used it and my scabies was gone with one application. 13 days latter I applied a second application just to be safe. The bottle of Ivermectin pour on I bought was $19.85 for a bottle that treated 10 550 LBS cows. The rate of application is 200 mcg/KG of body weight. I weigh 220 lbs so I used 20 mg of the drug. The drug was 5 mg/ml so I applied 4 ml per dose.

You made on mistake in your post dated 10/18/2011. The dose for cattle IS NOT the same as for humans. Humans should use a dose of 200 mcg/kg of body weight. No more than that!!!!!

Hope I have helped others cure their Scabies infections.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#257 Aug 10, 2013
Lyle, at first I was skeptical about the link you posted but it actually looks good. Thanks.
lyle

Missoula, MT

#258 Aug 16, 2013
I have personally used this company about three times already, with no issues! I was scared myself that I might lose my money, but they came through every time for me. Just trying to help others.
Lyle

Missoula, MT

#259 Aug 17, 2013
Why do some of you wanna judge my posts as spam? I was asked for the link, I did not just go and post it. It really doesn't matter anyway, since you go and try to help others, and draw negative feedback for your efforts. If you don't want to believe what worked for me, that's fine, keep trying what your doing now. If you disagree with what I mention here, no problem, either! Good luck getting the cure!
Lyle

Missoula, MT

#260 Aug 17, 2013
"ivermectin dosage chart and info" When people ask about usage in any fashion, how is telling them where you obtained it (when asked), or how you took it "off topic"? amazing......
BYHORNS

Cedar Hill, TX

#261 Aug 18, 2013
What's the best place to inject the invermectin at to get the best results and also to not do any damage to myself??
xyz

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#262 Aug 18, 2013
Lyle wrote:
Why do some of you wanna judge my posts as spam? I was asked for the link, I did not just go and post it. It really doesn't matter anyway, since you go and try to help others, and draw negative feedback for your efforts. If you don't want to believe what worked for me, that's fine, keep trying what your doing now. If you disagree with what I mention here, no problem, either! Good luck getting the cure!
Because there are people on here who do not want you to use ivermectin, because it actually cures scabies. There are plenty on this forum who want you to buy their products which do not work. They want you to buy homeopathy, essential oils and overpriced things. They are dead set against the real cures here and will do anything to steer you away from the real cures. Please understand this. Realize that this is not a true forum anymore, and you are not dealing with normal people who have scabies. This entire forum is now a haven for sales people who do NOT care about you getting cured.
xyz

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#263 Aug 18, 2013
BYHORNS wrote:
What's the best place to inject the invermectin at to get the best results and also to not do any damage to myself??
You don't ever inject ivomec.
You take it orally. Better to obtain a prescription from a doctor of Stromectol ivermectin in the tablet form. Make sure the doc gives you at least two to three refills.
Lyle

Missoula, MT

#264 Aug 18, 2013
XYZ, I believe you are correct. I am fairly new here, so I can't say much. I was only trying to help others, as to what worked for me. Katee asked where I had bought my ivermectin, and I merely responded. For me, it was what cured my scabies, but it may not work for everyone. Since my Doctor would not give me a prescription for it, I had no choice but to chance buying it elsewhere. It also worked for my Wife, I believe! I wish those people fighting this terrible deal, the very best. It is one of the very worst issues I have ever had to deal with in my life. We spent probably three thousand dollars on things trying to cure it, but found they only worked for a short time, and they were back. Ivermectin for me I believe, was the cure. It may not work for everyone. House cleaning daily is necessary.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#265 Aug 18, 2013
I agree! I'm not spamming anyone either, just curious because you had said you bought ivermectin pills and not the injectible or paste, and I've not seen the pills available online anywhere! What is wrong with people. I can care less where you get the ivermectin or stromectol, get it where you want. Lyle was just answering me because I was curious about him buying pills online. And seriously... off topic, geez, it's not like I decided to talk about snoring or warts. Some of you are ridiculous.

Now, back on topic before I get rated again...my doc did prescribe meds for me for two weeks, permethrin and stromectol. By the end of the third week I was getting new bites and crawlies/biting again, so I did try the ivermectin injectible (in orange juice). I had leftover permethrin and used that too. Still itchy and new bites. Is this just not curable? My son now has red marks too (he was also treated tho he wasn't showing symptoms - now he has marks).

Another thing, I'm not so sure that ivermectin injectible for animals is the same as stromectol. I had very little reaction to stromectol, but the ivermectin gave me a rash across my mid-section. I've had the same response to the paste. Makes me wonder how safe that really is for people to be taking that. I understand the desperation when nothing works or no one will help you, but that might have worse consequences! Today, a little more than a day later, not feeling so great. Granted it could be what I had for dinner, but then again, who knows. Just be careful everyone.
Lyle

Missoula, MT

#266 Aug 19, 2013
Katee, how many weeks was your prescription for ivermectin from your doctor? I also spoke with a dermatologist's office in the area who has dealt with many scabies cases, and they claim it is curable. The receptionist I was speaking with had scabies in her own family, and she claims it was cured through the office. Since I don't have insurance, I was on my own as he does not take payments, but wants to be paid after each visit. I, honestly don't believe that your "regular" doctor out there has any clue just how bad the scabies really are, and how to get rid of them. This isn't to say some know how to treat it, but I don't believe most do. It usually takes a skin specialist, in my opinion.
relief at last

Kissimmee, FL

#267 Aug 19, 2013
Thank you so much for this info. After a few months of infestation, tube after tube of permetherin, referrals to the dermatologist who did nothing for me, having my house professionally sprayed, vinegar and cayanne pepper baths, clove oil, etc etc I got 2 doses of ivermectin from my doctor. took the first one and it helped for 12 hours but it was the first real relief in 3 or 4 months. Ordered the horse paste. I had to take it every couple of days to keep up with the hatchlings. Ordered the injectible and have taken it orally a couple of times 3 days apart and am having almost no symptoms. I will keep taking it for a couple of weeks. The medical community has a lot to learn about this.
andreaamericangirl wrote:
there are so many people commenting here that they dont know how much ivermectin to take and so on. i have cured myself of scabies two times with ivermectin. i have had scabies 3 times in 3 and 1/2 years because i work in close contact with the homeless in san francisco and there is a very high infestation rate among them. i started out begging a dr for a prescription for stromectol but realized that was getting me nowhere and i was losing precious days/weeks trying to convince her while the scabies were reproducing and getting worse. i decided to take matters into my own hands and bought liquid ivermectin injectable meant for cattle and swine- the brand name i bought was noromectin made by norbrook. it is 1% ivermectin. you can use that brand or any other brand that is 1% ivermectin. the dosing for humans is the same as the dosing for cattle! im not a kook. ive taken it 6 times now- 3 times one week apart for the first time i used it and then when i got infested again 9 mos later 3 times one week apart for the second time i used it. you want to take it once and then again 7 days later and then again 7 days later. 21 days- once a week for 3 weeks. dont take it if you have liver disease. take it on an empty stomach and take at least 8 oz of water with it. when you do put something in your stomach a few hours after taking it try eating grapefruit or drinking grapefruit juice- it helps the ivermectin work better. you will need a hypodermic needle and syringe to draw the liquid medicine out of the bottle with. in many states/cities that are progressive and have a good attitude towards making hypo syringes avaiable to the public to decrease HIV and Hep infection you can buy a single syringe at a walgreens or other drug store- this is true of NYC and san francisco just walk up to the pharmacy counter and ask for a syringe. it costs about a dollar. if you live in the bible belt or some such place, you can get hypo syringes at any feed store or livestock supply store- they are marked "for veterinary use only" and are there for anyone of any age to buy. order online from www.farmandfleet.com if you have to. you can get your ivermectin from them too. the marks on the side of the syringe tell how many ml are in there. the smallest syringe is a 1ml diabetic syringe and that is what you will get when you ask for a syringe at walgreens in NYC or other pharmacy. it is broken down further into tenths of a ml with marks for that too which are represented by .1,.2,.3,.4,.5,.6 etc up to 1.0 which is a whole ml. the syringes from farm and fleet and other feed stores etc are bigger and hold usually 3 or more ml and are marked off with lines for each .1.2.3.4 but those numbers arent on there just the full ml numbers are so there will be nine marks with no number next to them- like the minute marks on the face of a clock then a 1ml like the 1 hour is marked by a 1, then nine more marks then a 2ml and so on. stick the needle thru the rubber top of the bottle and then draw up however much your dose is into the syringe using the numbers and marks on the side of the syringe as a guide.
FRED

Golden, CO

#268 Aug 19, 2013
relief at last wrote:
Thank you so much for this info. After a few months of infestation, tube after tube of permetherin, referrals to the dermatologist who did nothing for me, having my house professionally sprayed, vinegar and cayanne pepper baths, clove oil, etc etc I got 2 doses of ivermectin from my doctor. took the first one and it helped for 12 hours but it was the first real relief in 3 or 4 months. Ordered the horse paste. I had to take it every couple of days to keep up with the hatchlings. Ordered the injectible and have taken it orally a couple of times 3 days apart and am having almost no symptoms. I will keep taking it for a couple of weeks. The medical community has a lot to learn about this. <quoted text>
When you have not been treating or had any symptoms for a month then post that.

The actual cure rate for ivermectin on this forum is less than 1%.
relief at last

Kissimmee, FL

#269 Aug 19, 2013
What would you recommend then , Fred?
FRED wrote:
<quoted text>
When you have not been treating or had any symptoms for a month then post that.
The actual cure rate for ivermectin on this forum is less than 1%.
FRED

Golden, CO

#270 Aug 20, 2013
relief at last wrote:
What would you recommend then , Fred?<quoted text>
A mite infection isn't that hard to get rid of. It's the infections that mites carry that cause such similar symptoms to scabies that have everyone on the scabies forum thinking they still have scabies when they have other infections left over from mites. The classic case is "tried everything, they still won't go away".

When you get these types of infections the generic term for them is Lyme disease. Now the problem becomes a lot more complicated. It is the case here with veterans here. I chased this nightmare for almost 2 years until I finally figured it out.

Figuring out what you really have is one thing then figuring out the cure is another.

Here is an example of another poster.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T6U...

Here is the thread you need to understand, but that will only work if it is read.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...
FRED

Golden, CO

#271 Aug 20, 2013
If you had a scabies infection, Lice, a spider bite or even other insects carry these infections. It's not just ticks so it's become harder to protect yourself from infection.

A lot of people are working outside the meddical system because the antibiotics that doctors use don't cure and cause a lot of suffering in the process.
Borrelia becomes much more virulent in the presence of Bartonella which is more common than Borrelia. The most aware doctors think Borrelia should be considered a coinfetion to Bart.

Agrobacterium is used extensively to modify our food supply. The closest relative to Agrobacterium Is Bartonella bacteria. They share genes and abilities. Bartonella is intracellular so evades the immune system that way as well as releasing chemicals to shut down immunity. Agrobacterium is so like Bartonella it should be considered a Bartonella like organism.

Agrobacterium has the ability to readily change your DNA and is an opportunistic infection. The mutant DNA from agrobacterium is most likely responsible for Lyme disease developing into morgellons disease. Morgellons is linked to Lyme.

Since there is not much real research going on and after reading huge amounts of material Morgellons is likely to be a "Chronic lyme" infection with agrobacterium as a "co-infection". This wasn't caused by the government being evil it was cause by the government being incompetent.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#272 Aug 20, 2013
Lyle wrote:
Katee, how many weeks was your prescription for ivermectin from your doctor? I also spoke with a dermatologist's office in the area who has dealt with many scabies cases, and they claim it is curable. The receptionist I was speaking with had scabies in her own family, and she claims it was cured through the office. Since I don't have insurance, I was on my own as he does not take payments, but wants to be paid after each visit. I, honestly don't believe that your "regular" doctor out there has any clue just how bad the scabies really are, and how to get rid of them. This isn't to say some know how to treat it, but I don't believe most do. It usually takes a skin specialist, in my opinion.
I did see a dermatologist, he's the 5th doctor so far but I'm thinking he's a good one. He is the only one that wanted to treat both my sons, my boyfriend, and my son's girlfriend (she declined). He is doing things right in my opinion right from the start. He gave us all permethrin and stromectol, two doses a week apart. The difference I noticed was a huge improvement. But... I was still itchy and crawly and was getting new lesions still. So on the third weekend, I used leftover permethrin which was just enough and the ivermectin injectible I bought online. I used Americangirl's dosage chart.

The marks all over my body faded almost immmediately finally after the 3rd dose of ivermectin and permethrin. I only got a couple new lesions after that. I saw the doc again tonight who was not happy with me but in his opinion, thinks I'm cured. He took biopsies of those straggler lesions just to make sure. He knows I don't have any money but am desperate, so he isn't charging me for the biopsies.

The hard part is that I'm still a soldier at war. After over a year of fighting this, it's hard to let go and heal. Right now, I'm going to just see what the next few weeks brings and hope that it is progress. I have a doctor that is sticking with me and that's worth so much.
Katee

Homewood, IL

#273 Aug 20, 2013
Oh, and it is important to find a dermatologist that has actually dealt with and seen scabies cured. You can google it! Google "doctors who specialize in scabies in YOUR TOWN". This doctor I see had "skin lesions" listed as one of his special interests. After talking to him, he has also successfully treated people with crusted scabies. Not all dermatologists have actually treated scabies or know how to in today's world (the world where they actually exist above your neck... drives me nuts when a doctor gives you a tube of permethrin and says to put it on from the neck down). Sadly many of them have become experts more in botox and beauty treatments.

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