Ozone to kill mites?
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Since: Jun 10

Denver, CO

#1 Jun 20, 2010
(I'm pretty peeved, apparently I just lost a HUGE post breaking down the scientific materials I had typed up to some bug in Topix. Hey Topix, etadik)

I know for a fact that ozone will kill mites on the surface, I went and had an ozone/steam treatment at a local ozone therapist office about two weeks ago and I was pretty good for a day or so until re-infested from the environment.

I found this, which backs up my experience (no relation, I get nothing):

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=a...

Killing Effect of Ozone on House Dust Mites, the Major Indoor Allergen of Allergic Disease

Authors: Jae-Hyuk Hana; Byung Soo Ohb; Sung-Yon Choia; Byoung-Chul Kwona; Myung Hyun Sohna; Kyu-Earn Kima; Joon-Wun Kangb

Affiliations: a Department of Pediatrics, Yonsei University College of Medicine, Youngdong Severance Hospital, Seoul, Korea
b Department of Environmental Engineering, Yonsei University at Wonju, Wonju, Korea

Abstract
This study examined whether ozone could kill house dust mites (HDMs), one of the most common causes of allergic diseases, and if an ozone application might be helpful in the environmental control of allergic patients. The experiments were performed in a small chamber (50 cm3), in which the continuous contact between the gaseous ozone and 40-60 live HDMs could be maintained during the reaction time (temperature=25C and relative humidity=75%). Within the ozone range of 0.19-10.62%(v/v), the higher concentration dose resulted in a more rapid inactivation of the live HDMs. The CT value of ozone showed a linear relationship with the inactivation efficiency (%) of the live HDMs. From our results, it was found that a CT value 400 mg-min/L was required to obtain an almost 100% removal efficiency of the 40-60 live HDMs.

So, if you can pump a room full of high quality ozone (1-10%), you can basically kill EVERYTHING in that room and all it takes is a couple of hours or an open window/door and the ozone will break back down into oxygen and leave nothing behind. This is pretty much the cleanest, least toxic (assuming you're not dumb enough to breath it directly) that I can find. I even found that someone tried to patent a system designed SPECIFICALLY for this issue.

http://www.google.com/patents...

With a good generator, you could theoretically do your house a room at a time, your car, your clothes (I'm considering a big 90 gallon can), shoes, anything. I don't really see a downside to this methodology. I'll keep you posted.

WMF

“Skin”

Since: May 10

Knoxville

#2 Jun 21, 2010
WMFelt wrote:
(I'm pretty peeved, apparently I just lost a HUGE post breaking down the scientific materials I had typed up to some bug in Topix. Hey Topix, etadik)
I know for a fact that ozone will kill mites on the surface, I went and had an ozone/steam treatment at a local ozone therapist office about two weeks ago and I was pretty good for a day or so until re-infested from the environment.
I found this, which backs up my experience (no relation, I get nothing):
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=a...
Killing Effect of Ozone on House Dust Mites, the Major Indoor Allergen of Allergic Disease
Authors: Jae-Hyuk Hana; Byung Soo Ohb; Sung-Yon Choia; Byoung-Chul Kwona; Myung Hyun Sohna; Kyu-Earn Kima; Joon-Wun Kangb
Affiliations: a Department of Pediatrics, Yonsei University College of Medicine, Youngdong Severance Hospital, Seoul, Korea
b Department of Environmental Engineering, Yonsei University at Wonju, Wonju, Korea
Abstract
This study examined whether ozone could kill house dust mites (HDMs), one of the most common causes of allergic diseases, and if an ozone application might be helpful in the environmental control of allergic patients. The experiments were performed in a small chamber (50 cm3), in which the continuous contact between the gaseous ozone and 40-60 live HDMs could be maintained during the reaction time (temperature=25C and relative humidity=75%). Within the ozone range of 0.19-10.62%(v/v), the higher concentration dose resulted in a more rapid inactivation of the live HDMs. The CT value of ozone showed a linear relationship with the inactivation efficiency (%) of the live HDMs. From our results, it was found that a CT value 400 mg-min/L was required to obtain an almost 100% removal efficiency of the 40-60 live HDMs.
So, if you can pump a room full of high quality ozone (1-10%), you can basically kill EVERYTHING in that room and all it takes is a couple of hours or an open window/door and the ozone will break back down into oxygen and leave nothing behind. This is pretty much the cleanest, least toxic (assuming you're not dumb enough to breath it directly) that I can find. I even found that someone tried to patent a system designed SPECIFICALLY for this issue.
http://www.google.com/patents...
With a good generator, you could theoretically do your house a room at a time, your car, your clothes (I'm considering a big 90 gallon can), shoes, anything. I don't really see a downside to this methodology. I'll keep you posted.
WMF
Could you please let me know which machine you decide on?
Or if brands cannot be mentioned just the ones you are looking into.
I have wondered about ozone for insects.

So far we have spent over $2500 on having pesticide companies spray most of this was for other insects the mites no one could ID.
I see them now in my windows and these are not clover mites plus I find them on my skin when I take a bath.

Thanks,
Sandy
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#3 Jun 21, 2010
I know one poster who bought two of these machines and kept one near his closet, where the bird mites were entering into his home. They were expensive, over $2,000 a piece.

I have heard that these machines cause damage to some things in the home, and now I was just looking for facts on this. Here is an article I found.

http://www.thecanaryreport.org/2008/12/09/war...

Althought it doesn't mention about household items being damaged by ozone generators, it does mention the health problems associated with them.
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#4 Jun 21, 2010
another link on ozone generating machines.

http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html
sandelis

United States

#5 Jun 21, 2010
Joe wrote:
another link on ozone generating machines.
http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html
I am some familar with ozone uses since I have lymd dx.
Some people use it for ozone saunas.
I read up some on them and I think they can damage plastic or maybe rubber things.
Can't repomember any other things.
I read different things about ozone for mold so I just got so confused with how good it was and then how bad.
I think if it does help with insects and mold how could you beat that.
Something good to have on hand.
Even if you didn't get one that expensive could you buy something and move it around the house to different rooms just not be around to breath it?
Keep me posted on what you learn, I am not the best reader that understands some of this type of thing.
What was the brand your friend bought?
Thanks for your reply,
Sandy

Since: Jun 10

Denver, CO

#7 Jun 21, 2010
@joe:*facepalm*
The biggest issue, other that the EPA, who have done a right jolly good job in the Gulf, is that yes, ozone is harmful if you breath it. That's.. you know.. kinda what kills the mites bud.. Seriously.. That's the whole point of this thread.

The biggest problem is that there are three types of machines that I can find:

Ones that get their oxygen from the atmosphere and DON'T filter out nitrogen (VERY dangerous as it creates nitric acid, nitrous oxide, and other harmful/caustic components). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitric_acid

Ones that get their oxygen from the atmosphere and DO filter out nitrogen (much safer, but not as ideal).

And finally, ones that run off of bottled oxygen, which makes them the least dangerous.

But bear in mind that there is NO KIND OF OZONE THAT CAN BE INHALED WITHOUT TRAUMA. PERIOD, END OF STORY.

It is this VERY property that makes it desirable as a miticide. It can penetrate ever nook and cranny of a room and asphyxiate anything that it comes in contact with (however, it tends to settle to the floor because its heavier than normal air).

Mammals, invertebrates, mold, some plants, etc, etc are all susceptible to ozone asphixiation. It also can be destructive on certain plastics, rubbers and other elastic/polymer compounds. I will say that this seems to be an more issue with ozone generated from machines that use oxygen from atmospheric sources.

Pure ozone does NOT leave anything behind after it breaks down, simply put, pure ozone breaks down into its base form which is 3 oxygen molecules. Any residue left behind is most likely damage from nitric/acidic compounds as a result of impure ozone generation.

@sandelis: The gent built his own back in the day. Back in the 90's you had two choices, buy from Europe (multithousand dollar machines) or build your own from scratch and use medical grade oxygen.

@sanelis: I'm looking into the Jenseco line at http://www.jenesco.com/ I'm not affiliated and get nothing from them. So far I've heard decent things about their line of equipment but I'm having a hard time getting quality time with sales person (apparently they only have one) to answer some questions.

I think that this has the potential to be the 'nuke' option of miticide. Given what we're all spending on pomades, insecticides, soaps, etc, it might be the most cost effective as well. Time will tell.

WMF
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#8 Jun 21, 2010
WMF - Who are you?? William The Great? Or could it be William, the great Mo Fo? don't come on the forum with an attitude, "Bud."
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#9 Jun 21, 2010
If you have an environmental mite, such as bird mites, a good option is to buy a dehumidifier. The mites need moisture to survive for any length of time in the environment. Make the environment dry, and they will dry up and die. Keep the dehumidifier running 24/7, until all moisture is gone from the floor and walls in the home.

“Skin”

Since: May 10

Knoxville

#10 Jun 21, 2010
Joe wrote:
If you have an environmental mite, such as bird mites, a good option is to buy a dehumidifier. The mites need moisture to survive for any length of time in the environment. Make the environment dry, and they will dry up and die. Keep the dehumidifier running 24/7, until all moisture is gone from the floor and walls in the home.
I think they could be a good asset just to have for many uses.
I just wouldad a like to find one that could be less than a $1000, I have a rife machine also that was over $2500.
So if you see a brand that looks good that is in that price range please let me know.
Thanks,
Sandy
Big Ozone

Canton, OH

#11 Jun 29, 2011
I have found the BiO3blaster to be the best ozone machine bar none! High Output kills mold destroys odors. www.ozonegenerator20000.com

They even created a new Ozone based bed bug system!
Ozone Guru

Quito, Ecuador

#12 Jan 2, 2012
sanelis wrote:
<quoted text>
Could you please let me know which machine you decide on?
Or if brands cannot be mentioned just the ones you are looking into.
I have wondered about ozone for insects.
So far we have spent over $2500 on having pesticide companies spray most of this was for other insects the mites no one could ID.
I see them now in my windows and these are not clover mites plus I find them on my skin when I take a bath.
Thanks,
Sandy
I discovered the best ozone generators on the market and they cost much less with higher outputs. With ozone bigger is better ie the more ozone produced the better the results. Some mites especially bird mites require a whole lot of ozone gas for eradication. In fact the inventor of these machines even invented a bedbug system using ozone gas. www.ozonegenerator20000.com
surfdesigner

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Jan 20, 2012
You can build your own ozone generator for less than $100. 2 pieces of steel wire mesh, 2 glass containers (one that fits into another) and a neon sign transformer (mine is 15,000V) that you can buy off eBay. Look it up there are many sites that show you how to build it. Granted this type does create nitrogen gas since it uses ambient air (gas will affect plastics/rubber). But it creates a TON of ozone and leaves the room smelling like a fresh air cloud. I've been using it for years and it really helps control the asthma symptoms and eczema outbreaks I get from my dust mite allergies.
lmcc

Modesto, CA

#15 Jan 23, 2012
WMF - Who are you?? William The Great? Or could it be William, the great Mo Fo? don't come on the forum with an attitude, "Bud."
Joe wrote:
If you have an environmental mite, such as bird mites, a good option is to buy a dehumidifier. The mites need moisture to survive for any length of time in the environment. Make the environment dry, and they will dry up and die. Keep the dehumidifier running 24/7, until all moisture is gone from the floor and walls in the home.
WHO ARE YOU JOE?
You are running off anyone with ideas that could help us.
Sure, your idea is a good one ...
but we want to hear all of the ideas .. we are smart enough
to research and make our own decisions.

Get over yourself!
Seattle_girl

Edmonds, WA

#16 Feb 26, 2012
Geez...I see I am not the only one with this problem! Started last year and my landlord, who lives in another state, and my father thought I was crazy when I showed up at his house at 3am with my two cats. Somthing was eating us alive! I live next to a wetland and don't believe in pesticides, so I ozonated, brought in a dehumidifier, that I still use, and got rid of almost all of my apoulstry and appliances, bedding, couch, etc. I also used Dr. Ben's evictor, natural cedar/quartz and the yard gaurd too. Well, I let my guard down and they are back! I think the cause is a bird nest that my be in my bathroom vent...heard the chirping late spring early fall, along with possible roof rats and decaying vegitation/fungus in my yard do to oversaturation of the house built next door in a wetland! Disrupted the water table. I try to tell myslef that I cam one of the lucky creatures because I can do somthing about it or at least try. What about the poor birds and creatures who just have to suffer? I think it's a combination of overdevelopment, dieying of species..these mites used to feed on birds and plants...and when a host isn't present, turning to humans. So sad how our ecosystem is disrupted.
Seattle_girl

Edmonds, WA

#17 Feb 26, 2012
BTW, I have a dehudifyer, that runs 24/7. It is not enough. I use an ozonator, Dr. Ben's evictor (natural cedar oil), put vinegar in my gutters....but it keeps returning...the problem is my house & environment...need to check for bird nests, and roof rats and do heavy maintenance, eliminate water sources. A house is just like an immune system. The immune system of my house is compromised. Can keep fighting it and fighting it endlessly, or fix the problem.
Seattle_girl

Edmonds, WA

#18 Feb 26, 2012
Hydrogen peroxide works really well too...I spray it on the walls and ceilings full strenght and wipe it down. I make sure to cover my hair though, since it can lighten. I don't worry about it hitting my skin. I have also read about somone who uses it for gardening and decks. I even put in on a towell and wipe my kitties down with it. No adverse reactions.
Seattle_girl

Edmonds, WA

#19 Feb 26, 2012
I am definately a believer in ozonators...I have been borrowing one from a friend until I can afford my own. Kills mold, fungus, bacteria and cleans the air too. I've seen some decent commercial units out there in the $300 dollar range. Just don't be in the room or leave pets in the house while ozonating...can irritate the lungs, so I've heard. I generally close off and leave te room/house while ozonating, then air out for an hour or two before returning to the room. But as I said, if there is a water leak problem...moisture, bird nests, rat infestation...the problem will keep returning until you fix the source.
Seattle_girl

Edmonds, WA

#20 Feb 26, 2012
On a side note, I was told by a hydro colonic therapist, that Ozone therapy (that kills mold) is used in just about every country but the US in hydrocolonics for colon cancer and to treat and cure other forms of cancer...cancer cells cannot live in a high oxygen environment, just like mold, bacteria and fungus that thrive in low oxygen environments.

Of course, our medical society and FDA won't endorse or allow somthing as simple as oxygen to cure cancer. Sodium chlorite (formerlly known as MMS solution)...when activated uses the same principle of oxygen to kill pathogens and return cells to normal. I have read that people use it to clean/decontaimate their homes. In fact my father found a video on U-tube of a company that tents and pumps it in to damaged homes (as in New Orleans)...

Patty

West Palm Beach, FL

#21 Apr 15, 2012
sanelis wrote:
<quoted text>
I think they could be a good asset just to have for many uses.
I just wouldad a like to find one that could be less than a $1000, I have a rife machine also that was over $2500.
So if you see a brand that looks good that is in that price range please let me know.
Thanks,
Sandy
I just got this one, and use my own box fan, place it up high and my ac unit on: http://foreverozone.com/products/basic-build-...
Scabies gone

Carbondale, CO

#22 Jan 11, 2014
Seattle_girl wrote:
Geez...I see I am not the only one with this problem! Started last year and my landlord, who lives in another state, and my father thought I was crazy when I showed up at his house at 3am with my two cats. Somthing was eating us alive! I live next to a wetland and don't believe in pesticides, so I ozonated, brought in a dehumidifier, that I still use, and got rid of almost all of my apoulstry and appliances, bedding, couch, etc. I also used Dr. Ben's evictor, natural cedar/quartz and the yard gaurd too. Well, I let my guard down and they are back! I think the cause is a bird nest that my be in my bathroom vent...heard the chirping late spring early fall, along with possible roof rats and decaying vegitation/fungus in my yard do to oversaturation of the house built next door in a wetland! Disrupted the water table. I try to tell myslef that I cam one of the lucky creatures because I can do somthing about it or at least try. What about the poor birds and creatures who just have to suffer? I think it's a combination of overdevelopment, dieying of species..these mites used to feed on birds and plants...and when a host isn't present, turning to humans. So sad how our ecosystem is disrupted.
After two years of scabies infestation- I finally got rid of them! I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING BEFORE! All I did was buy a pair of sweats, a tube of permethrin cream 5%, And left my house for three days. I jumped in the shower, scrubbed up and applied the permethrin cream. I then took the sweats out of a Walmart bag And put them on.
I then walked to a friends house, not driving my car. Although the chances of catching scabies from clothing or towels is very low, I did not want to take a chance.
I RETURNED THREE DAYS LATER AND NO PROBLEMS AFTER THAT!
The Center for disease control says that the Scabies mites cannot live longer than 72 hours OFF a HUMAN HOST. I found this information to be extremely accurate.
I DID NOT EVEN HAVE TO CLEAN A SINGLE THING IN MY APARTMENT!
I hope this helps somebody out there who has suffered like I have.

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