feel bad

United States

#313 Jan 16, 2013
Continued: keep exposing myself 2 these ppl when they dont even want 2 admit that they even have da problem u know. becuz they have 2 have it if I got it. Im just tired of recontaminating self and putting others at risk too. Lets be honest, this aint no picnic. My doctor even said it was not gonna be eazy getting rid of them cuz they liike hiding in creases of undergarments anthing like that. He said, hate 2 say this but it is easier 22 get rid of crabs than this pesty mite. honest he did say this. so bak 2 exsele, will be on my way 2 ask a pharmacist about this treatment I gave myself and will hope 2 get back 2 u soon. But so far, I took another shower and really scrubbed off the shampoo and I feel pretty good. Thank u Lord. And guess what my cell s ringing and its those "friends" probably wanting a ride... what I need 2 do is give a buena chinga-- no just kidding but they need prayer indeed. o and buena chinga s tex mex 4 a good a$$ whopping.lol... get bak 2 u later friends

Since: Aug 12

Philadelphia, PA

#314 Jan 16, 2013
Feel bad, it's nice of you to be nice, but your "friends" with scabies need to find another ride until they are better! I have no doubt crabs would be easier to get rid of than scabies. I don't think crabs burrow into our skin and lay eggs and give birth under our skin and all that. Ugh. You just gotta treat yourself and get rid of them and stay away from these people who have them and are somehow in denial. How someone could be in denial of something so itchy and infuriating I have no idea-- I was obsessed with them and killing them when I had them, and I still freak out when I have an itchy, eczema day. Good luck! Do remember that you can still have bumps after you are cured though-- that's what this thread was originally about.
PermTwiceThenWai t

United States

#315 Jan 27, 2013
hello everyone. theirs a ton of posts on this website so ill try and skip some of the BS ppl post on here. i got scabies from my ex gf. ive had psorisis my entire life so stupidly i thought it was that. i didnt see a doctor for over a month. finally he told me i had scabies and gave me permethrin creme. i put it on and waited 1 week. then went and got the perscription refilled 5 times total. after 5 tubes of this crap i think ive finally killed them all. im 85% sure and have had sex with my new gf for over a month and she has no signs or symptoms. ive had the scabies bumps and rashes all over my body. completely :( im pretty sure the post scabies is happening. perm is the only thing ive used and it caused the pin prick crawling sensations because i never had those while i had the active scabies. iys been a month since my last treatment and i still have the occasional bump with a white centre on it. im pretty sure its just my body purging the dead mites. i still have dime sized raised patches on my butt but i have a compulsion to pick scabs so they look different from any pics on the internet. also i have dark spots from where the scabies were on some parts of my body.
- My advice to everyone is to stop using perm wait 2 full months and see what happends. the perm cream kills them but if you use too much it is horribly bad for your skinand causes more harm than good. it also causes itching and pin pricks. just wait it out to know for sure. if it starts rapidly spreading then your reinfected but to be honest reinfection isnt that common. ppl act like its super duper infectious but i didnt even clean couches chairs or carpets. i just washed all cloths and sheets pillows. and never wear the same cloths twice. i hope everyone gets better. my rashes are only on my butt now. thats where it was the worst from the start. even if you itch here and there doesnt mean its back. just keep that in mind. i will repost on this forum in about a month and let you know.
PermTwiceThenWai t

United States

#316 Jan 27, 2013
also just thinking about scabies can and will make you itch. the fact that ur on this forum will leave you crawling. ive told friends 3months ago and the night i told them they started itching. they have no symptoms and ate gratefull that i told them. itching doesnt mean their back. and as for the cortizone creams i didnt use them or any other medication. just permethrin 5% wish i woulda only used 2 tubes cuz my skin is f'ed up now. dark blimishes everywhere on my calfs. but no pin pricks and mild itches. so i think im fine
-good luck guys this mite is the worst thing u can go through. id personally rather have shingles than this.
misery_in_au

Sydney, Australia

#317 Jan 28, 2013
PermTwiceThenWait wrote:
iys been a month since my last treatment and i still have the occasional bump with a white centre on it. im pretty sure its just my body purging the dead mites. i still have dime sized raised patches on my butt. also i have dark spots from where the scabies were on some parts of my body.

i didnt even clean couches chairs or carpets. i just washed all cloths and sheets pillows. and never wear the same cloths twice.
sounds like you still possibly have them, just in lesser numbers. Whitish coloured blister-like swellings are the start and then they progress to dark raised sores.
gary

United States

#318 Feb 17, 2013
Ray wrote:
I am experiencing something similar to what many of you have posted, though it is on a much longer time scale. I was wondering if there is anyone out there who could relate.
I had scabies when I was 8 or 9--on my hands. The most severe area that persisted the longest was my left index finger. There was an area on the middle segment where the skin damage was pretty bad, with some deep ugly scabbing going on.
The scabies was eventually cured--I don't remember how long it lasted, but it seemed like forever to me at the time. I'm now 25 and was diagnosed with eczema at that exact same location (the midle segment and knuckle of the left index finger) a few years back. Basically I get the vessicles, itching, and cracking, and it is most pronounced in the winter months.
The physician who diagnosed me said there was no relation, but I can't help but think it is an enormous coincidence. Could it be possible that there was some permanent damage that make me susceptible to eczema in later years?
I know this isn't quite the same thing others have been talking about, as the eczema is mostly right after the scabies, during the healing phase, but I can't help but get the feeling it is related in some way.
Does anyone else have experience with long-term eczema on the same areas s/he previously had scabies? Has anyone come across any literature that might support this?
Thanks for your help, and good luck to everyone!
.

Hey man. We need to talk. I have the same story. Exactly. I'm 25 in albuquerque. Had scabies 2 years ago and stilll get rash on my right pointer finger. It is most definitely related.
chris

Parkersburg, WV

#319 Feb 23, 2013
I'm 3 weeks from my 2nd treatment from "permethrin" or however you spell it. And i'm sitting hear itching right now. It sucks. And I have no clue if I'm cured or not. My friend who had it years ago seems to think I'm cured but I'm starting to wonder (doubt) it... I have to go to the laundry mat to clean clothes and sheets... EXPENSIVE AFTER 20 LOADS OR SO... I don't have it in me to keep fighting this.... Wonder if I'm cure or not? Any ideas?

Since: Aug 12

Philadelphia, PA

#320 Feb 23, 2013
chris wrote:
I'm 3 weeks from my 2nd treatment from "permethrin" or however you spell it. And i'm sitting hear itching right now. It sucks. And I have no clue if I'm cured or not. My friend who had it years ago seems to think I'm cured but I'm starting to wonder (doubt) it... I have to go to the laundry mat to clean clothes and sheets... EXPENSIVE AFTER 20 LOADS OR SO... I don't have it in me to keep fighting this.... Wonder if I'm cure or not? Any ideas?
Chris, I really empathize with you. 3 weeks after your last treatment is an infuriating place to be. And treating scabies is expensive-- thought I was probably cured after my 2nd perm, and certainly after my 3rd, I continued doing the daily laundry and obsessive cleaning for about 2 months total because I was so scared I wasn't cured, because I was still itchy and rashy. I added approximately what I spent on prescriptions, non-prescription treatments (essential oils, benadryl, special soaps, etc.), cleaning and laundry products, and it was over $1000! I had to borrow money for food!

Anyway, you say you are itchy. How itchy compared to before you treated? Do you have rashes and how do they compare to before? In what ways do you feel/look different since before you used the perm?
chris

Parkersburg, WV

#321 Feb 23, 2013
DesperateInPA wrote:
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Chris, I really empathize with you. 3 weeks after your last treatment is an infuriating place to be. And treating scabies is expensive-- thought I was probably cured after my 2nd perm, and certainly after my 3rd, I continued doing the daily laundry and obsessive cleaning for about 2 months total because I was so scared I wasn't cured, because I was still itchy and rashy. I added approximately what I spent on prescriptions, non-prescription treatments (essential oils, benadryl, special soaps, etc.), cleaning and laundry products, and it was over $1000! I had to borrow money for food!
Anyway, you say you are itchy. How itchy compared to before you treated? Do you have rashes and how do they compare to before? In what ways do you feel/look different since before you used the perm?
- I'm not even sure if this is where I'm supposed to write this... I can't even remember for sure what I was like 3 weeks ago... at this point it doesn't seem quite as bad or often (itching) I gave up on the washing stuff after my second treatment which was a week after my first (just to be sure).. but for two weeks i've just been back to normal with laundry... I can't afford to do anything else... guess I'll have to manage if i'm not cured... but now it's just like infected mosquito bites for the most part... i'm paranoid about some "new" spots on my side torso, but they're not bothering me greatly... it's almost like i have chicken pox (i don't) but just the areas of mosquito bite like sores aren't healing as fast as i thought they should...(if they're healing at all... i thought after successful treatment it should be better by now... but who know... I am a very allergic type of person... allergic everything (nothing severe) just mildly allergic to cats and pollen and stuff... but anyways thanks for responding... i really don't have the energy to keep worrying about it... it's almost like you can become comfortable suffering... thanks again..

Since: Aug 12

Philadelphia, PA

#322 Feb 25, 2013
Chris, if you're able to not have the energy to keep worrying about it, my guess is the mites are gone and you're dealing only with the aftermath. When you have them, you are never able to forget it unless you drug yourself heavily with antihistamines (and/or alcohol), it feels so horrible. So that's good!(You should never let yourself become comfortable with suffering though, IMO, if there is something you can do about it, and with scabies there is, and you've done it.) I think you're just going to start feeling better and better and this will be a distant memory very soon. It's definitely tough when you already had allergies though, I'm in that boat too. Rashes and itching lingered even though the scabies were all dead. But having allergies is a cakewalk compared to having scabies! So best to you, I bet you are cured and things are only going to get better for you.
TEJA

London, UK

#323 Feb 26, 2013
Cured wrote:
Hello all, I had scabies like 3 weeks ago and i realised it was scabies because my thighs were all covered in red slightly raised marks not just my thighs my but buttocks alot, and legs, and der were sore and ticklish to touch, and there was some on my under arms, i realised it was scabie, so i went to the doctor and told him it was scabies, he gave me permitrin 30ml tube of 5%conc. and it put it all ove my body! after i got even more itchier and the red marks spread alll over my body all on ym arms and chest and back... i cudnt sleep at all!! i used a second treatment a week later and from there they got better less itchy less tickilish and started to reduce, everyday it got better and not the symptoms are totally gone, howeve they do leave marks and be slight darker than orignal skim tone and my skin is veerrrrry dryy!! and flakey i only after been using e45, but im advisig to use e45 during the scabies torment, as it will reducing the eczema after!. alos try not to itch... when i had scabies i was reading all online and all the comments and forums all the people say they took a long time to cure or they still have it, this is because once people cure they dont come back to write that they been cured, and it doesnt take long to cure up its all individiual cases,most people cure and get rid of themn but there are some cases that dont, and they're are the ones that post on forums, its a biased sample. im only saying this because when i was researching scabies and reading the forums and seeing all these failed cases, i thought im never going to get rid of them, but i did, and very fast, like most people, but cured cases dont post on forums, so if your reading this you will most likely get cured quick, and dont worry they do go away!
Hi,
Thank you very for your post mate you gave me some confidence, really appreciate that.
chris

Parkersburg, WV

#324 Mar 4, 2013
Tomorrow will be 5 weeks since my first treatment, and 4 weeks since my 2nd treatment. Thought I might be getting better last week... But now I've been itching like a bitch for the past few days... Weird...I'm at my wits end... My legs are basically covered with what looks like chicken pox. the torso not so bad, but I don't think it ever was... arms suck and itch, and the torso too, but it's the legs that are the worst... the worst part is just not knowing... Maybe I need to see a doctor to find out... Please won't this just go the hell away...

Since: Aug 12

Philadelphia, PA

#326 Mar 4, 2013
chris wrote:
Tomorrow will be 5 weeks since my first treatment, and 4 weeks since my 2nd treatment. Thought I might be getting better last week... But now I've been itching like a bitch for the past few days... Weird...I'm at my wits end... My legs are basically covered with what looks like chicken pox. the torso not so bad, but I don't think it ever was... arms suck and itch, and the torso too, but it's the legs that are the worst... the worst part is just not knowing... Maybe I need to see a doctor to find out... Please won't this just go the hell away...
Chris, do the rashes come and go? If so, I think it's the mite crap exiting your body and your immune system overreacting to every little thing since the mites set off an immune reaction. I'd see a dermatologist if you can though, to help set your mind at ease. If you get a good one, she can scrape areas where you have rashes and see if there are mites. I am still getting itchy and rashy on a daily basis all these months later and I am 100% positive I no longer have scabies. Some days are worse than others, but overall it HAS gotten better over time. It will for you too.
chris

Marietta, OH

#327 Mar 5, 2013
DesperateInPA wrote:
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Chris, do the rashes come and go? If so, I think it's the mite crap exiting your body and your immune system overreacting to every little thing since the mites set off an immune reaction. I'd see a dermatologist if you can though, to help set your mind at ease. If you get a good one, she can scrape areas where you have rashes and see if there are mites. I am still getting itchy and rashy on a daily basis all these months later and I am 100% positive I no longer have scabies. Some days are worse than others, but overall it HAS gotten better over time. It will for you too.
-Thanks for your reply... I really don't know if rashes are coming and going... It's hard to tell... It's funny, when I thought i was cured I didn't itch as much, but when I doubt it I itch more ofcourse... Really it's just like having a ton of infected mosquito bites on my legs or chicken pox... there are spots here and there that you can't see much of anything buy you can feel slight bumps and they itch too... It's hard to keep track of what's new or not when your whole body just seems to itch. I guess it's not as bad as it had been, so hopefully I'm cured, but I really got no idea. I figured after 4 or 5 weeks I'd be back to normal. Is that a dumb thought? I don't itch much during the day... or whenever my mind is off it. Basically just when getting ready for bed and relaxing on the couch. I would have guessed the mite "crap" would have disolved in days or a couple of weeks after treatment, but what do I know. Now i'm scared to death to scratch my head, although I do anyways... this crap is one pain in the rear and super aggravating... It's a lot of fun on top of some other extreme health issues I have that I won't go into here (lol... play me a violin)--- Thanks for responding. It helps to be able to talk about it...
Casslynn

Forest Hills, NY

#328 Apr 3, 2013
DesperateInPA wrote:
<quoted text>
Chris, do the rashes come and go? If so, I think it's the mite crap exiting your body and your immune system overreacting to every little thing since the mites set off an immune reaction. I'd see a dermatologist if you can though, to help set your mind at ease. If you get a good one, she can scrape areas where you have rashes and see if there are mites. I am still getting itchy and rashy on a daily basis all these months later and I am 100% positive I no longer have scabies. Some days are worse than others, but overall it HAS gotten better over time. It will for you too.
Reading your posts makes me feel a bit better! I treated for scabies in late November with Perm three times one week apart, along with my husband (who never had any symptoms after I suffered for months!) I, too, am a very allergic person and have always had sensitive skin, and since those treatments, I am still itchy and get rashes.

My skin has become hyper sensitive and will get a rash from my clothes rubbing on me, even. I'm certain that many of us are allergic to the permethrin, especially if you have ragweed allergies, as it's made from some "modification" of chrysanthemums, a ragweed relative (obsessive scabies research, of course). I have a very chronic, eczema like rash under my jaw and down the front of my neck (very attractive on fair skin), as well as rashes that come and go (mostly come) on the insides of my elbows, tops of my hands and on my arms...

This is all 4 whole months after my last permethrin treatment. I am going to go to a dermatologist next week, I had two follow ups post treatment in which that derm said I was post scabies and suffering from dermatitis, but it is hard to believe you're cured when you're still suffering with the itchies! Obviously, since I'm back on this forum, haha! Also, I work full time as a nanny and the babies I am with constantly have never had any symptoms (the family treated in Nov, as well, just to be sure)

How long ago was your last treatment, Desparate? If/when the new dermatologist (who specializes in skin infections, not cheap) confirms that it is indeed a prolonged reaction, I'm going to focus all my energy on healing my allergies. It is reassuring that others have had similar, long term symptoms, although I really hope we get relief in the near future!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#329 Apr 6, 2013
Hi Casslyn,

I'm glad my experience has helped you feel a little better! My last perm was all the way back in late September or early October (I'm allergic to ragweed too, didn't even think about the connection to that), and still, some kind of rashes, hives, urticaria, etc. every day. I did exactly what you are talking about-- the derm was helpful one time, but now I am seeing an allergist frequently to deal with the allergies. We did testing and of course I'm allergic to pretty much everything, including my cat, and of course we're all sensitive to dust mites now, if we weren't already. They love to hang out in shedded cat fur.:/

I'm taking more drugs for the allergies, which I hate, and though it's helping my asthma, I can't say it helps my skin much. Or maybe my skin would be even worse without the drugs? I'm also reaching alternative therapies for allergies. The allergist also recommended a humidifier in winter, dehumidifier in winter if you don't have central air, and a HEPA filter. How I'm supposed to pay for all of this I do not know. But I do think treating allergies is the way to go for the ultra-sensitives like us.

Must have been extra frightening for you, working with babies. I'm glad, though you are still suffering, you're over the period of madness where you really think you might still be infected! Those moments come back for me, and I just talk myself off the ledge. Though, I am still too paranoid to go to a gym again (got it from using a shared mat, which was really stupid). And I'm typing this from a hotel room-- always a little scared when I stay at them now too, since some people get it this way.

Anyway, I hope you find a great allergist who can help you deal with the rest of this!
Casslynn

Brooklyn, NY

#330 Apr 6, 2013
Hi, Desperate!

I did intensive allergy testing a couple of years ago and am allergic to everything, the worst being dust mites and cats (I also have a cat), so the scabies probably only intensified that already bad dust mite allergy and having a cat only puts more stress on the system. I'm sure your allergist told you to wash your sheets at least once a week in hot water to kill the mites, I used to do that more like every 4 days, but then I moved to NYC and no longer have a washer and dryer in house, which makes keeping up on that a lot more difficult!

I was/am in the process of some cleansing of the liver, as that is supposed to help with allergies. I actually have done a series of colonics (the desperate get very brave!) and I will say that it helped so much with the respiratory aspect of my allergies that I stopped taking my zyrtec... which is when my skin started to progressively get worse again. I began taking the zyrtec again last week and do notice that I itch much less than I did without it... my skin still doesn't look good, though.

I haven't used any of the steroid ointments prescribed to me for a while as I know they aren't good for me systemically and they are so bad for your skin, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to use them again after my dermatologist appointment to get back out of the "itch and scratch" cycle and heal up before returning to my emu oil and colloidal oatmeal lotion approach now that I'm back on the zyrtec. I really wish I was confident enough to just embrace that it is indeed my allergies and sensitive system causing this issue and not that I have scabies again, as I have no health insurance and the cost of going to the dermatologist is so outrageous. Most days reason prevails, but I just need to be certain.

What alternative paths are you pursuing to treat your allergies? I see a naturopath and take whole food supplements that support my liver and immune system, and am in the process of doing a series of liver and gall bladder flushes (could be quackery, but there is the desperation again!) to see if I get any positive results. I am very interested in NAET, which uses acupressure and the meridian system to heal sensitivities and allergies. I babysit for a little boy on occasion and his mom brought me along to one of the treatments so I could see what it was all about. It helped her mother heal some very serious food allergies completely, actually. I've read mixed reviews, mostly positive, so I think it's worth trying since my allergies cause me so much grief and I have to expend so much energy to take care of myself and my environment.

I totally agree with the hotel room paranoia! Oh, the things you never considered before the plague of skin parasites! Hope you have a great weekend, thanks for the response!
chris

Parkersburg, WV

#331 Apr 10, 2013
Here's an update that I hope will help some people find hope. I'm now finally pretty sure I'm free of the scabies. It's been 9 weeks since my last treatment. I treated twice (8 days apart)-It was a roller coaster after treatment... Weeks after my treatment I didn't feel like I was getting better but I didn't really have the means to treat again. I'M SO GLAD I DIDN'T... The treatment worked... IT CAN TAKE 2 MONTHS or possible longer for some people to start to get relief. The worst part is it's hard to know whether you were cured or not. I didn't think I was for the longest time. That PERMETHIN (spelling?) can be probably cause some similar effects as scabies. I don't have advice because everybody is different. I just want you all to know that it might be 6-8 weeks or longer before your itching starts to subside even after successful treatment. So don't go crazy or mad. I thought I had "new" spots popping up (and I did) but those were just reactions I guess. I'm still itching a little on occasion here and there but it's nothing compared to weeks ago. Good luck. My scars are healing too. I'm glad I went through this over winter. man it would suck in the summer. God bless!!!

Since: Feb 13

Canton, MI

#332 Apr 14, 2013
Hi, Chris: Congratulations!! It's so good to hear that someone is finally well! I'm not sure if I'm in your stage or not--I think I am--but like you described, every new itch or little spot has got me stressing out. Yesterday, I thought I got bitten in the shower, and found out later on that it was a spider bite instead of the dang mites! I used an exfoliator that I hadn't used for over a month and had been stored up high on a shelf. It's weird how we all associate every little mark and itch with the dang mites instead of a more normal answer. Anyway, wonderful to hear your story!

Since: Aug 12

Philadelphia, PA

#333 Apr 14, 2013
Hi everyone, about 7 months since I've been cured, and I *still* freak out over every bump and rash and bug bite, but I get over it much more quickly and know it is not scabies again. I am now able to use logic to override my fears that I have somehow been reinfected. I have been so paranoid/careful, not going back to where I was exposed, it would just be too odd of a coincidence to have become reinfected. I just have worsened eczema now and my skin is more easily irritated. But the freak-outs and doubts get less! Scabies really does cause PTSD IMO, but it gets better.

CASSLYN,

I hope you continue to feel better from all the allergies. You've tried more than I had. I was doing accupuncture but I can't afford it. I've increased my probiotics; besides having other benefits, it is supposed to increase the barrier between our intestines and blood stream-- lots of us with allergies have "leaky gut syndrome" where proteins get where they shouldn't and cause allergies and other immune reactions (I have crohn's disease so I should be taking probiotics anyway). And then of course, there's avoiding wheat and most grains. Still taking the zyrtec, singulair, inhalers, etc. too. Can't say I've noticed much improvement over the last few months.:( But hopefully just getting out in the sun should help too. Have you been checked for vitamin deficiencies? They can worsen allergies and skin problems too. I had a very bad D one I just found about so am supplementing that. Please let us know how the liver and gallbladder flushes go. I wish so badly I could see a naturopath, but I cannot afford it, am currently on disability from the crohn's and depression :/

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