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#433 Oct 23, 2013
This is a very good protocol but it does not cure all. But I would suggest it cures most. I was cured by Albendazole aka Valbazen for animals 5ml every 12 hours. It caused a massive die off within 24 hours that required I begin Amoxicillin 500mg treatments due to the bacterial infections from the die off. I took the Valbazen oral suspension every 12 hours for 12 days then stopped to let my liver recover for 7 days then I repeated twice. I am completely cured. I can't believe it. I have been the oldest poster on the Topix Scabies Forum. I have suffered for over 6 years and nothing cured until this. There are no side effects. Fred's protocol was not strong enough to cure me although it did a lot of good, making it easier for the Valbazen to finish the job.

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#434 Oct 23, 2013
Most people have multiple infections, not just Scabies. Follow Fred's protocol and you will slowly see results that cannot be denied. Forget about Ivermectin and Permethrin.
FRED

Denver, CO

#436 Oct 24, 2013
sweetkitten wrote:
This is a very good protocol but it does not cure all. But I would suggest it cures most. I was cured by Albendazole aka Valbazen for animals 5ml every 12 hours. It caused a massive die off within 24 hours that required I begin Amoxicillin 500mg treatments due to the bacterial infections from the die off. I took the Valbazen oral suspension every 12 hours for 12 days then stopped to let my liver recover for 7 days then I repeated twice. I am completely cured. I can't believe it. I have been the oldest poster on the Topix Scabies Forum. I have suffered for over 6 years and nothing cured until this. There are no side effects. Fred's protocol was not strong enough to cure me although it did a lot of good, making it easier for the Valbazen to finish the job.
Before you say your cured you have to understand that these infections like what you had get in the bone marrow and it takes about 3 months of treatiing wiith the right stuff to just get it out of there.

If you go and look at all the threads for albendaziole you'll find I researched and spoke about it extensively. It does kill a variety of pathogens but when you actually understand what you are really dealing with and actually take the time to read what I have written so that you understand it too then you will see what is taking place in your body and see that albendazole is not a good choice.

Also having submission of symptoms after a couple weeks of albendazole is not a cure. First off it won't cure you because the microbes do a variety of things like shut off and infect your immune system, create biofilm fortresses that act as command centers, exchange DNA to sjhare resistance and use quorum sensing for almost immedieate chemical signaling in the body. When you understand these things and more then you will be able to understand that you need to treat all infection types , bacteria, fungi, parasites and viruses, at the same time.

Just taking some pharmaceutical that is a syntehetic chemical i9solate is meaningless.

Understanding is everything and, Sweet Kitten, you didn't have time to do my protocol in any way meaningful at all.
FRED

Denver, CO

#437 Oct 24, 2013
sweetkitten wrote:
Most people have multiple infections, not just Scabies. Follow Fred's protocol and you will slowly see results that cannot be denied. Forget about Ivermectin and Permethrin.
If you go down and read the end of the article you will see where I outline the "artificial immune system" in action with the natural immune system. You have to get your natural immune system up and running again so it can assist the artificial immune system. You can only do that by using a complex of amino acids. The artificial immune system can't become infected and it is a new paradigm. The protocol is very strategic.

This doesn't have anything to do with immune system "enhancement", It has everything to do with creating new immune system cells because treating these intracellular infections causes cell death from released endotoxins. In Red Blood Cells that is called Anemia, that's the source of fatigue , in your immune system when the T-cells, B-cells, macrophages and helper cells are infected and dying then that would register as a low CD-57 count , etc.
Honey

Danielson, CT

#438 Oct 24, 2013
sweetkitten wrote:
This is a very good protocol but it does not cure all. But I would suggest it cures most. I was cured by Albendazole aka Valbazen for animals 5ml every 12 hours. It caused a massive die off within 24 hours that required I begin Amoxicillin 500mg treatments due to the bacterial infections from the die off. I took the Valbazen oral suspension every 12 hours for 12 days then stopped to let my liver recover for 7 days then I repeated twice. I am completely cured. I can't believe it. I have been the oldest poster on the Topix Scabies Forum. I have suffered for over 6 years and nothing cured until this. There are no side effects. Fred's protocol was not strong enough to cure me although it did a lot of good, making it easier for the Valbazen to finish the job.
Hi SweetKitten congrats on getting cured I have seen your name on old posts. How long did you have to take Albendazole? Did you end up not having scabies? How long have you been sympytom free? Again Congrats

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#439 Oct 24, 2013
Honey wrote:
<quoted text>Hi SweetKitten congrats on getting cured I have seen your name on old posts. How long did you have to take Albendazole? Did you end up not having scabies? How long have you been sympytom free? Again Congrats
Thank you. I took Albendazole for 14 days then 7 days off a total of three times. I've been symptom free going on two months. I did Fred's protocol for 1 month and realized it wasn't strong enough for me even if I did 6 months on it. Plus the $500 a month cost was beyond ridiculous. The $45 bottle of Albendazole set me free!
just someone

Denver, CO

#440 Oct 25, 2013
sweetkitten wrote:
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Thank you. I took Albendazole for 14 days then 7 days off a total of three times. I've been symptom free going on two months. I did Fred's protocol for 1 month and realized it wasn't strong enough for me even if I did 6 months on it. Plus the $500 a month cost was beyond ridiculous. The $45 bottle of Albendazole set me free!
It takes a month to to just start feeling it. It doesn't cost $500 a month, It costs about $1500 for a year. Your current assessment of you symptoms is naive.

Your results will be based on your understanding, stay tuned for further developments.

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#441 Oct 25, 2013
just someone wrote:
<quoted text>It takes a month to to just start feeling it. It doesn't cost $500 a month, It costs about $1500 for a year. Your current assessment of you symptoms is naive.

Your results will be based on your understanding, stay tuned for further developments.
The tinctures alone cost $280 a month, add the supplements and you hit $500 easily a month!

I am anything but naive. One of the posters on this thread "Shonda" claims she was cured by Albendazole and has been symptom free for well over two years. She told me that she hasn't suffered any permanent damage that she is aware of. One month on your extract protocol is enough time to evaluate it's effectiveness. I saw positive results but no way was it going to cure me. I saw almost immediate results with the Albendazole. You don't know enough about Albendazole to argue.
FRED

Denver, CO

#442 Oct 25, 2013
You're not a very good shopper.

I covered all the ground on albendazole 2 years ago.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TGG...

Some questions for you;

Since you think you have cured yourself of this then how long does it take albendazole to treat intracellular infections? Does that treatment induce Anemia?

How long does it take albendazole to penetrate biofilms?

What is albendazoles effect on violacein released by the infections that mites carry, that also kills components of your immune system like Phagocytes, t-cells and b-cells?

If you can't answer these questions it only means that you don't realize what is actually happening to you.

Enjoy your weekend.

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#443 Oct 26, 2013
FRED wrote:
If you can't answer these questions it only means that you don't realize what is actually happening to you.
Enjoy your weekend.
Fred - Sweet Kitten ENDORSED your protocol. She endorsed it. She said it was good. That it worked. She chose to go a slightly different route.

Why are you berating someone who makes different choices than you? She's on your side. She decided to do something different. It's her choice, she is free to do what she thinks is best. May not be what you suggest, but let her do But when you put her down and act like a dick, you've just lost an ally.

You could say "I don't recommend doing hardcore pharma during this protocol" or "If you give the natural method more time you'll see results without the antibiotics."

You cannot say that she's not cured. You would never, ever be able to know that information in a billion years, and saying it makes you look exceedingly arrogant. You cannot say that I'm not infested with collembola. You cannot say that everyone who gets scabies is going to get Lyme.

Once she does or doesn't relapse, that's when we'll know if she's been successful long term. Until then congratulate her on her successful treatment and offer your help if she needs it in the future.

That's how people behave. Not these endless demands that we listen and follow every single thing you say or be insulted.

Many people here have given you credit for creating a good protocol. Thank them. Be respectful of their right to make their own choices. If they want to follow your thing to the letter, great. Hopefully they will have the same success you did. If they don't, then telling them they are stupid makes you look bad, not them.
Skipper

Matthews, NC

#444 Oct 26, 2013
sweetkitten wrote:
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Shonda: I just read your post on the "How long does Ivermectin take to work?" thread where you tell your story and recommend Fred's approach. Well, you are either Fred himself, and most here will believe that because Fred uses several usernames and in the past has tried to sell all of us on his many failures. Many of us, myself included, ended up much worse off after following Fred's advice. So just a heads up. Whoever you are. I will take you on your word and do my own research and google the herb extracts, their purposes and uses as well as review what other doctors are doing to cure or manage Lyme Disease and EVEN scabies infections with basically the same protocol. But if this is just another one of Fred's fads you will end up as disliked as he is.
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The mind, like a parachute only functions when open. I do not understand the bickering! If Fred has a solution, try it. If it works, you win. If not move on like you probably have in the past. All of us battling this scourge on humanity should be pulling together unless you are part of the folks who manufactured these bugs, whatever they are. What do you think Fred is doing, trying to poison us or something. Drugs taken over prolonged periods of time, damage the body by clogging the liver and breaking down the blood. The body recognizes natural products and can metabolize them. My family is close minded; will not except anything but what they already know. They are sick with this stuff, but so in denial. I have begged them to listen, but they, like some of you on this forum, wish to bicker. I say, stay sick then! The longer you wait to treat, the deeper the infection. Everything I have tried, and believe me, I've tried a lot of things, has helped me in some way, but has not cured. I am thankful for the relief and know that I will eventually get better.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#445 Oct 31, 2013
I thought this post was very informative, although it was written back in 2010. Notice how she says NOT to take herbals, MMS, etc.

But, says to take both

ALBENDAZOLE and IVERMECTIN at the same time for Morgellons.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp...

Hopefully, this link works...

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#446 Oct 31, 2013
vss wrote:
I thought this post was very informative, although it was written back in 2010. Notice how she says NOT to take herbals, MMS, etc.

But, says to take both

ALBENDAZOLE and IVERMECTIN at the same time for Morgellons.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp...

Hopefully, this link works...
Interesting. But the Ivermectin was not necessary in my case, and my condition was severe. Shonda said she took Praziquantel with Albendazole, not Ivermectin and was cured. But you are convinced Ivermectin is a magic bullet and no one is going to convince you otherwise.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#447 Nov 1, 2013
sweetkitten wrote:
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Interesting. But the Ivermectin was not necessary in my case, and my condition was severe. Shonda said she took Praziquantel with Albendazole, not Ivermectin and was cured. But you are convinced Ivermectin is a magic bullet and no one is going to convince you otherwise.
Praziquantel is for TAPE WORM.
Why keep mentioning Shondatime??? She wasn't a real poster. She was one of Fred's aliases.
I know from personal experience that Albendazole does not work as well as ivermectin. That's right, you will not convince me otherwise, and I will let you know, too.
Why waste your money and time, "b*tchkitten"?
I am speaking the truth here....
I have no personal interest in DE, sulphur soap, kleen green, cedarcide, stopskinmites websites, or anything else being sold here on this forum.
You see, b*tchkitten, I posted a link to some good information here, but you had to turn it into a b*tch fest.

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#448 Nov 2, 2013
vss wrote:
<quoted text>Praziquantel is for TAPE WORM.
Why keep mentioning Shondatime??? She wasn't a real poster. She was one of Fred's aliases.
I know from personal experience that Albendazole does not work as well as ivermectin. That's right, you will not convince me otherwise, and I will let you know, too.
Why waste your money and time, "b*tchkitten"?
I am speaking the truth here....
I have no personal interest in DE, sulphur soap, kleen green, cedarcide, stopskinmites websites, or anything else being sold here on this forum.
You see, b*tchkitten, I posted a link to some good information here, but you had to turn it into a b*tch fest.
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Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA

#450 Nov 13, 2013
Hey Fred and Lotus Fan, still doing very well after doing a few fruit pectin cleansing and taking the CP, Usnea and Quina drops as you directed (July 2013). I wanted to say that yes, I did experience in late July, the chronic fatigue symptoms as described as herxheimer reactions, all in all I am feeling way better, about 90%. Currently I am still trying to get my G.I tract to work properly, a work in progress.

My son is doing very well, 100%. I also continue, daily to take my garlic oil capsules (allicin). I drink alot of water and organic cranberry juice (no sugar) from health food store, one bottle weekly.

I would encourage everyone with scabies or lyme symptoms, infections to buy the drops and start them as part of your daily cleansing, as described in fred/lotus fan's instructions.

Also, in May/June, I had started with Olive leaf extract and lecithin, this helped me also.

Blessings to all

:-)
Seriously

Johnston, IA

#454 Nov 19, 2013
@cindi - this guy has been spamming our website for months. He is literally insane. Like could be commited. His protocol seems OK - a bit overkill if you ask me but apparently it really brings out the crazy in someone!

Since: Oct 13

Fredonia, NY

#455 Nov 20, 2013
For what it's worth since this thread is about detoxing...I have a far infrared sauna that I was only using sporadically. I decided to get serious about being more disciplined with it. I have been using it every other day or every third day for about 2 1/2 weeks now and it really see a to be making a difference,
I heat it to about 117 to 120 degrees to start, and stay it until it hits 140 degrees which is usually 40 to 45 minutes.
At first I was getting a rash all a over my stomach, breasts and chest that would last until almost the next sauna session but after a week or so that stopped.
I've never been a big sweater but now I sweat a lot which is great.
The crawlies on my face and arms are gone completely.
I'm still dealing with what I think is scabies on my foot (at this point I'm not so sure anymore) but it seems to be Improving.

I'm hoping that the high, dry heat will kill any live mites and with continued use it will keep killing them as they hatch, but that is just my theory.
I keep breaking out with blisters on my toes every 4 to 5 days, but I have also been spot treating with lindane, eurax and iver topically. I think I just need to stop treating to see if they are post scabies but I am afraid to stop. We all know how fast it can spread and I want to keep it contained to my foot in case it is still an active case.
Jackie

Hollywood, FL

#456 Nov 21, 2013
Hopeful376 wrote:
For what it's worth since this thread is about detoxing...I have a far infrared sauna that I was only using sporadically. I decided to get serious about being more disciplined with it. I have been using it every other day or every third day for about 2 1/2 weeks now and it really see a to be making a difference,
I heat it to about 117 to 120 degrees to start, and stay it until it hits 140 degrees which is usually 40 to 45 minutes.
At first I was getting a rash all a over my stomach, breasts and chest that would last until almost the next sauna session but after a week or so that stopped.
I've never been a big sweater but now I sweat a lot which is great.
The crawlies on my face and arms are gone completely.
I'm still dealing with what I think is scabies on my foot (at this point I'm not so sure anymore) but it seems to be Improving.
I'm hoping that the high, dry heat will kill any live mites and with continued use it will keep killing them as they hatch, but that is just my theory.
I keep breaking out with blisters on my toes every 4 to 5 days, but I have also been spot treating with lindane, eurax and iver topically. I think I just need to stop treating to see if they are post scabies but I am afraid to stop. We all know how fast it can spread and I want to keep it contained to my foot in case it is still an active case.
You cannot expect to treat scabies with a sauna. These parasites need to be treated with meds, both topially and orally.

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#457 Dec 1, 2013
I don't see how a Bartonella infection can be confused with living mites crawling and biting the skin leaving physical manifestations like sores. Bartonella can be treated with doxycycline. The smoothie, extracts and supplements were not potent enough to cure me. Sweet Kitten had the same experience. Something is missing from your natural approach.

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