Morgellons and Lyme from mite infections
vss

Hollywood, FL

#391 Sep 18, 2013
The easiest thing for a derm to say to you is, Oh, it's probably fleas. smiling. That's just them observing your behavior and from what you describe, but fleas are visible. Flea debris, feces are highly visible on the pet and in the environment.

This person is asking Fred many many questions which Fred cannot answer.

One being questions related to pets. He/she/it cannot answer any questions relating to pets... Why? Because he/she/it has absolutely no experience with pets, or friends, or family members that have this... Why? Because he/she/it lives ALONE, is very isolated. What he she does know is everything they have learned from the net... and what has worked for him. That's about it.

If you ask any question relating to your pet, you will not get a response. What you will get is some sarcastic remark like this. Well, I really don't know what your dog has and I really don't care... blah blah blah.

If you think your pets have this, then they need to be seen by a vet derm. They need to be put on a very healthy diet to build their immunity. They need some medication for mites, like the injectible ivomec; can be taken orally. You need an exact dosage for the weight of your pet. They will need at least 4 injections to even begin a cure for them. In the meantime, you will need to build your immunity up any way you can. You can follow all of what Fred prescribes here to fight bacterial infections, fungal related infections. It's good to go see a lyme literate doctor or an infectious disease specialist or a derm. If you still have this after a few years, then yes, read this entire thread, get tested for some of the co-infections related to lyme and morgellons. They are all treated with antibiotics. But, mites are parasites and they need to be treated with ivermectin and other scabicides. Yes, one poster on here used very small amounts of lye to open up their nests of mites and eggs and continual bathing in this solution cured him. Was it dumb? Maybe... Did it help him? You can bet IT DID. Is Fred dumb because he calls everyone here dumb? Oh eff yeah. Dumb as an effing stiff effing BOARD.
FRED

Golden, CO

#393 Sep 18, 2013
That's a website that looks like where HG gets all of her info for sure. I however never noticed it and if you would look back in the Morgellons/Mite infection thread I have already sourced these at various places that are the best quality and cheapest, nothing to do with that $$ operation though.
Anonymous

Atlanta, GA

#395 Sep 18, 2013
seriously..I get the debates but people we have one life.. that's it & all care for is a cure. I am waiting on the iver as we speak..That is the only thing I haven't tried..@vss Yes I love both of my doggies & i think they are depressed because I am scared to touch them as much as I normally do. So is my immune system low? I haven't gotten sick in years...I don't have big sores just little pimples that pop up randomly on mostly my arms and legs...I do need to buy a better microscope because I can't tell if these "black specks" are red when magnified. This is the creepiest Sh!t i have ever dealt with and it scares me. I have ripped my carpet up got rid of my bedroom furniture and I am currently typing on an air mattress on concrete. so understand my desperation for a cure! and FYI yall argue like a married old couple & I hope noone intentionally gives out BS to people that are already desperate for help.
HKK1

Atlanta, GA

#396 Sep 18, 2013
Additionally, if this is caused by a lowered immune system how is it that I continuously read stories how entire families are affected including their pets? Everyone's immune system happened to be weak at the same time? this ish is so confusing. Thanks @fred I read the info. I will not admit to being a scientist so some of the articles are for people that paid attention in chemistry. Not the ones that smoked behind the school during chemistry..:) My apologies but I will keep reviewing. I did read your protocol. bought all of it. I am ready to eradicate..Just have to figure out how to treat my pets at the same time. One year right?

Since: Aug 13

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#397 Sep 18, 2013
There are no reported cases of Lyme disease in Australia and Lyme disease is spread from ticks not mites.

Do not self analyse your condition or jump to conclusions from this forum or at least consider your options. Go to a doctor, get blood work done as here you will get a difinitve answer on whether you have lymes, staph and any other infections.

Recognise post scabies syndrome to active infections.
Treat your pets, its easy. Once you start treating your mite count in your environment drop drastically. There is hope, do not get paranoid about other conditions that mimic scabies.
Anonymous

Atlanta, GA

#398 Sep 18, 2013
Scabiesxnightmare wrote:
There are no reported cases of Lyme disease in Australia and Lyme disease is spread from ticks not mites.
Do not self analyse your condition or jump to conclusions from this forum or at least consider your options. Go to a doctor, get blood work done as here you will get a difinitve answer on whether you have lymes, staph and any other infections.
Recognise post scabies syndrome to active infections.
Treat your pets, its easy. Once you start treating your mite count in your environment drop drastically. There is hope, do not get paranoid about other conditions that mimic scabies.
I did get a scraping also blood work is fine and it was due to an "arachnid class category specie" which was determined as some sort of "mite" they could not determine which one...but the freak out came with specks started coming out of my skin.. Has this happen to scabies patients? I already looked like a looney to my doctor & dermatologist trying to magic shows with spray bottle & kleen green demonstration..(looking back rather hilarious)..if its scabies yes easier..if its morgellons I am dealing with a whole new monkey

Since: Jan 13

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#399 Sep 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
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http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

I'm very healthy so the information I'm posting actually works, makes sense on many levels, and it is all scientifically substantiated.
Fred - you know that one of the researchers on this study was convicted of scientific misconduct on a study about AIDS. Not only did he falsify data, but his hypothesis was egregiously homophobic and downright offensive.

And F1000 isn't a recognized peer reviewed publication.

Just sayin'.
love guru

Mumbai, India

#400 Sep 19, 2013
all problem solved here.website....bhriguastrolog er.com
FRED

Golden, CO

#401 Sep 19, 2013
Scabiesxnightmare wrote:
There are no reported cases of Lyme disease in Australia and Lyme disease is spread from ticks not mites.
Do not self analyse your condition or jump to conclusions from this forum or at least consider your options. Go to a doctor, get blood work done as here you will get a difinitve answer on whether you have lymes, staph and any other infections.
Recognise post scabies syndrome to active infections.
Treat your pets, its easy. Once you start treating your mite count in your environment drop drastically. There is hope, do not get paranoid about other conditions that mimic scabies.
http://www.lymedisease.org.au/
FRED

Golden, CO

#402 Sep 19, 2013
The Hungry Ghosts wrote:
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Fred - you know that one of the researchers on this study was convicted of scientific misconduct on a study about AIDS. Not only did he falsify data, but his hypothesis was egregiously homophobic and downright offensive.
And F1000 isn't a recognized peer reviewed publication.
Just sayin'.
I know about Stricker except like you I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I put things in context. Being a conspiracy theorist like you are is a psychological disorder. Just Sayin'.
FRED

Golden, CO

#403 Sep 19, 2013
HKK1 wrote:
Additionally, if this is caused by a lowered immune system how is it that I continuously read stories how entire families are affected including their pets? Everyone's immune system happened to be weak at the same time? this ish is so confusing. Thanks @fred I read the info. I will not admit to being a scientist so some of the articles are for people that paid attention in chemistry. Not the ones that smoked behind the school during chemistry..:) My apologies but I will keep reviewing. I did read your protocol. bought all of it. I am ready to eradicate..Just have to figure out how to treat my pets at the same time. One year right?
Ivermectin is a toxin and is counter productive, it also doesn't work. The more you read this stuff the easier it gets.

Your going to get way more bad advice on this site than good that's why I was try to give you a better source but you wouldn't have any of it.

You need to invest the time in understanding this or a year from now when you could be cured you'll be in the same boat. It's you that is going to help you,i'm just giving you the info. It's more than just using the right stuff and you need a good working knowledge that you
understand to drive your own future.

Since: Aug 13

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#404 Sep 19, 2013
HKK1 wrote:
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I did get a scraping also blood work is fine and it was due to an "arachnid class category specie" which was determined as some sort of "mite" they could not determine which one...but the freak out came with specks started coming out of my skin.. Has this happen to scabies patients? I already looked like a looney to my doctor & dermatologist trying to magic shows with spray bottle & kleen green demonstration..(looking back rather hilarious)..if its scabies yes easier..if its morgellons I am dealing with a whole new monkey
My basic understanding of morgellions is that it's a human genetically engineered organism that is part plant part insect. If you have a morgellions sore it will never heal, will hurt, will spread and is attached to you and comes out of you as a thread.Keep pulling it out it will regrow. You would know if you were suffering anything like this.

Rat mites have been confused with morgellions as they have long legs that fold under them inside the skin, when pulled out they resemble a thread.

Black/dark red specs are common in scabies. I have had specks myself although they do not pile up on the floor after my shower or my wash basin. I took the specs to be female mites. The burrows are always described as a trail with a female at the end ( black dot) or a small pile of debris. Often when I used permithrin or soaked my hands I would have dark specs. If I could flick them off then they were dead/lifeless specs. If they didn't move easily then I would think they were alive female mites.One poster used oil with cling wrap and noticed lots of black specs emerge, she kept repeating this until no specs emerged.


You should of got a second opinion on your mite scrape. Go again to a new derm but say you have only done a couple of treatments. Focus on staying calm this time! we have all freaked our dermo's out at some point! chances are they prob wont find anything now as you have treated many times.

black specs are the least of your worries.

Since: Aug 13

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#405 Sep 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
Well I stand corrected and you can probably guess why seeing as there is a whole 5 articles proving cases in Australia, even as the debate rages on to this day.

Ticks are toxic no doubt.
FRED

Golden, CO

#406 Sep 19, 2013
Your wrong in a lot of areas. Instead of articles here's a book.

http://restormedicine.com/lyme-disease-austra...

As far as morgellons;

Morgellons is caused by a gram negative bacteria that is in the same bacterial family as bartonella. It's either agrobacterium or an agrobacterium/ bartonella mutant/ hybrid.

There are a lot of unscrupulous entrepeneurs making money off of morgellons sufferers and there is a government problem. They want to call it mass hysteria but it is actually this;

1.Naturally occurring agrobacterium is cultured.
2.Agrobacterium DNA is extracted from some agrobacterium.
3. The DNA undergoes a gene splicing operation where a segment of DNA from another organism is inserted as well as genes for antibiotic resistance.
4.The now T-DNA is in the form of a plasmid and this plasmid is reinserted into the agrobacterium through use of an electric pulse.
5.The subject plant to be transformed genetically is infected with the agrobacterium now holding the T-DNA.
6. The natural ability of the agrobacterium transfers the T-DNA to the subject cells through horizontal gene transfer.
7. Since the T-DNA was also encoded for antibiotic resistance the subject plant is now treated with antibiotics and only the cells that successfully took the T-DNA transfer survive.
8.The now transgenic plant cells are cultured and grown to mature plants with the genetically modified trait.

Now here is the reality as it affect MD.

Not all of the agrobacterium is killed with the antibiotic treatment. The agrobacterium with T-DNA remnants get sent with the seed or plants to the farmers field. From there the agrobacterium T gets back in the soil,is spread by pollen shedding from transgenic plants, is taken up by insects and then distributed through the food chain.

It's in the food we eat.

It has been shown in several studies that gut bacteria readily take up the transgenic DNA in the genetically modified foods we eat.
The bacteria itself is readily absorbed in the mouth.

Agrobacterium being a gram negative bacteria with transgenic abilities is slow growing and opportunistic. It uses chemical signalling in the body to know when the the body is run down. This is why it normally appears well after someone acquires an immune compromising infection like Lyme disease. a lot of people who get it only find out they had Lyme when they become symptomatic with MD.

Agrobacterium is very closely related to Bartonella, in the bacterial kingdom they are both in the Rhizobiales order. Ag can do everything that Bart can do and then some.

You are also wrong about your scabies assertions.
FRED

Golden, CO

#407 Sep 19, 2013
Do your homework, as smart as you are I shouldn't have to supply this for you.

#t=35

Since: Aug 13

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#408 Sep 19, 2013
Fred, I am assuming you are responding to me with this.....fact is nothing is certain with morgellions and with scabies one of the main issues is permithrin side effects on the body, which is not recognised correctly and is confusing to any true scabie sufferer.

Your insights and research into morgellions and lyme is important but it is also confusing to people who have scabies or post scabies.

You jumped on my thread with all this which I found disrespectful to my condition, you see we don't have mass amounts of people walking around with Lymes and morgellions in Australia so really I can not be lumped into your diagnosis. My perspective is about scabies only and my experience. I am cured now and suffering from permithrin effect so I feel a little more qualified than you to be discussing this topic to other sufferers who are experiencing what I did.

Your info should be seen as useful and insightful into health not as a diagnosis tool on a scabies forum. I do not like to see people panic for no reason, beating scabies is easy, thinking you still have it is hard on the mind. This forum does more damage than good in most cases.

I keep my analysis simple becasue in truth this condition is not that complex.Disagree with me all you want, a difference of opinion is healthy to someone weighing up the odds on their condition ( if they have not seen a doctor to verify their condition)

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#409 Sep 19, 2013
Lastly, I am not suffering from permithrin effect any more, just some dry skin in spots now, all crawling sensations are at a minimum and I ignore it.If I wear shoes that had perm sprayed in them before I will have tingling and a be a bit itchy on my feet.Same goes for clothes. My blood work also came back clear for pathogens and I do not have fungus/candida.

I will leave you all to it now. I have left my experiences for all to see and I do not want to give out bad or wrong advice or argue with people.

Be nice to each other :D
Anonymous

Atlanta, GA

#410 Sep 19, 2013
FRED wrote:
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The information I need to send you is about 10 pages long and I am not writing that again.
If you P.M. me i can furnish you with a link. Otherwise you can read this, if you feel this applies then start at the beginning of this thread
and read the FRED/Lotus fan posts.
http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1
There is a certain amount of information to understand and there aren't any hurry up solutions. There also aren't any solutions where people say "try clove capsules", these simple minded approaches always fail as Sweetkitten will tell you she is still infested after several years trying.
The solutions for this problem do not come from any previous information by other posters on this forum. There a a lot of veteran posters here who have tried multitudes of things and failed, they are still infected. One of them is even suggesting taking baths in Lye, that is really dumb.
I'm very healthy so the information I'm posting actually works, makes sense on many levels, and it is all scientifically substantiated.
Thanks and your appreciated. Know that this is still an emotional roller coaster seeing science fiction happen in your own life. I dig your matter factly approach but I can sympathize with everyone here. I will try your protocol Olive Leaf has already arrived waiting on the others.

Best,
FRED

Golden, CO

#411 Sep 19, 2013
@ Scabiesxnightmar ~ Fact is I am in personal contact with some leading researchers and although there is a vast array of misinformation I can assure you with certainty that what I said is completely valid. In other words my statements are backed up by genomics.
FRED

Hamilton, Canada

#413 Sep 20, 2013
And every night the men in white jackets come to put me in my padded cell and give me my meds to calm me down.

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