Morgellons and Lyme from mite infections

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FRED

Golden, CO

#1 May 22, 2013
Mites carry infections that they pass to humans who have mite infections.

*borriela

*Bartonella

*Babesia

*Erlichia

*Mycoplasma

The above are the most common but there are more.

Bartonella in mites, mites are arthropods.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/18/1/11-0186...

http://web.ncsu.edu/abstract/science/bartonel...

http://web.ncsu.edu/abstract/science/bartonel...

http://web.ncsu.edu/abstract/science/bartonel...

Babesia in mites;

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Mi...

" Mites and ticks carry viruses, bacteria, spirochetes, babesias, anaplasmata, theileriae, and microfilariae"

Mycoplasma in mites;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7159311

There needs to be much more research in this neglected area but there are sufficient studies to draw a conclusion that if you have or have had a mite infection you more than likely have also been infected with another pathogen.

Borrieia is the spirochete bacteria associated with Lyme disease although it is now known that chronic lyme is a collection of infection that affect health in many ways, It is also known as multiple infection syndrome.

Borrielia in mites;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16187890

The Lyme disease a person acquires from a mite infection can develop into Morgellons disease. Morgellons disease is actually a skin manifestation of Lyme disease but the lyme disease is fully systemic in the body.

http://f1000research.com/articles/2-25/v1

http://f1000research.com/articles/2-118/v1

The mite infection is difficult to get rid of, clove capsules work, but the impression that people still have scabies on this forum for sometimes years after they treated extensively is wrong. This why doctors will tell you that if you have treated that much and still have mites your crazy. What the doctors aren't aware of is that these infections can and do cause very similar symptoms on the skin to scabies. Then the person doesn't realize that the mites are gone and they are now dealing with something that has more severe long term consequences. I could name a lot of scabies forum veterans who refuse to or can't make this connection.

In this thread there is a lot of information, the borax cure itself is not effective. I have posted pertinent information from post #1400 on.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T7U...

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FRED

Golden, CO

#2 May 23, 2013
A huge part of the equation to returning to health is getting your detox pathways working. Taking herbal remedies to kill internal pathogens is part of the health equation but you need to get your detox pathways up and running or you could just make yourself sicker.

Pathogens release toxins into your system in order to push your PH toward acidic , it is the environment they thrive in and when you have a pathogenic infection that in itself changes your bioterrain. You'll never be able to get back to a healthy body PH unless you treat for pathogens and if you have gotten to the point where you have a mite infection then you definitely need some work.

When you kill a pathogen inside you there is a toxin release and you might get a herxheimer reaction from it but that toxin release also pushes your body environment toward acidic. Mycoplasma is actually an intracellular infection from DNA remnants from other pathogens that have died inside you so you definitely want to get that stuff out of you.

If you don't fix your detox pathways you won't return to health , it's that simple. Yes you definitely need to treat for pathogens, even the ones your not aware of.
What is important before you start doing this is that your detox pathways are open. Take a Lecithin supplement for 3 weeks prior to starting the above to get your liver working. Take taurine to increase bile production. Take a probiotic rectally to get your G.I. Tract working. Only 2-4% of probiotics make it through stomach acid and these are essential for detoxing. Thatís right probiotics are not taken orally otherwise you get little benefit from them. I would also start using Oxylift at this point to help get cellular function up, thatís important. You should also take a good omega 3 like cod liver oil capsules. You need a balance between omega 6, lecithin, and Omega 3ís.

Toxins stay in your fat cells and Lipids, or the right fatty acids help remove these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...



http://huntgatherlove.com/content/theres-pill...

"Taurine promotes the flow and production of bile, which is the fluid produced in the liver that is essential for digesting fats. It prevents the condition known as cholestasis where the bile flow is blocked."

http://www.healthaddictz.com/lecithin-health-...

You need lecithin to restore liver and cell function.

http://hbmag.com/probiotics-implants-how-frie...

"Implantation directly into the rectum greatly increases the absorption and effectiveness of probiotics since they are deposited directly into the sigmoid region of the colon and they do not have to survive the acid bath of the stomach in order to reach their destination."

When you actually understand body function then you will start to understand why you got sick in the first place. If you don't optimize your detox pathways as well as treating for pathogens you won't get healthy , you might make some progress but what lies around the next corner.

Making progress is about making good decisions and everyone has to make their own. The more you know the better equipped you are to do that.

Lecithin, Taurine, probiotics and lots of hydration. I also suggest you use an herbal detox tea like the "yogi" brand.

This doesn't happen overnight but it will happen, this is something doctors completely ignore, why? because they don't get it.

You should start to work on your detox pathways a few weeks before beginning the treatments I will post here that will clear insect vectored infections.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#3 May 23, 2013

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#4 May 23, 2013
VSS wrote:
That is a good article but you don't need to buy what they are selling. The fact is that if you are healthy your body can synthesize anything it needs from a good diet.

You should eat 100% organic, no sugar or white flour and no starch. Eat plenty of greens , small portions of protein etc. The first step is to get your liver up and running and get you digestion working right then work on cell function. Excercise will help to get your lymph system going. It's ok to eat gluten as long as you make a point of staying very hydrated, unless you are allergic. Bear in mind that many allergies are misinterpreted and are actually cause by something else.
The thing with gluten is it gets gooey inside your body and holds pathogens unless you are very hydrated. A good bread like ezekiel holds a lot of lipids and sterols that are essential for health. If you want to go gluten free that's fine but you have to supplement lipids and sterols or you'll become a giant mess.

The Tre-en-en is a good product but it costs about $30 a bottle.

http://www.gnldcontent.com/pages/BusinessGuid...

http://www.slideshare.net/sfyoder/lipids-in-f...

Why you need to eat organic;

Since: May 12

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#5 May 23, 2013
Something I consider very important in preparation for actually treating the infections is the Oxylift formula. It will help to restore cell function so the treatments can get inside the cells. It also will help to kill infections in the mitochondria of your cells the same way your body does and doesn't cause oxidative stress like most other oxygen therapies.

Oxylift is;

"A highly efficient synergistic blend of powerful nutritional supplements providing the body with oxygen, hydrogen, structured water, etheric respiration energies, major and trace minerals, enzymes, and amino acids."

It costs about $20 a bottle but 1 bottle will last you over a month, I consider it a must have for succesful treatment to full recovery.

When you are actually ready to start treating you infections after you have made some effort to get your detox pathways up then this is a good first treatment. You must start out with much lower doses and taper up as this little gem will cause a major die off and you be going through a very uncomfortable herx. You must be familiar with what to expect from the herx. Your choices are either don't do it and live with the infections or do it and put up with the herx for a while.

http://www.encognitive.com/node/18232

The oxylift cocktail consists of;

30 drops Rosemary tincture- to inhibit quorum sensing
30 drops cinnamon bark tincture- varietal antimicrobial
10 drops Usnea tincture- it's the bomb
8 drops Oxylift

* the herb-pharm tincures are reasonably priced and very high quality.

Since: May 12

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#6 May 23, 2013
Usnea- The Bomb.

Usnic acid is the active ingredient in Usnea.

Usnic acid, a potent antibiotic and antifungal agent is found in all species of the lichen that is found growing on trees.

The wiki sight says it has a history of hepatoxicity but in my reading I have found that ďhepatoxicityĒ is being misunderstood. If you have liver flukes or another pathogen or parasite living in your liver and you find something that works against them then the die off releases a lot of toxins that are going to fill your liver up, but the Usnea is not hepatoxic it is the effect of the die off from something that is working. I saw the statement of being hepatoxic as a very good sign for the actual effectiveness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usnea

It has been used for a variety of medicinal applications and I read one site where it said it had been used to cure just about everything, I think they are being optimistic there but it has shown some very positive results.

In the below link it is listed in their lyme protocol

http://infectionconnection.net/wp-content/upl...

The Usnea is used in the Byron White A-Bart and A- Myco formula as;

"This herb is a broad-spectrum antimicrobial that affects viruses, protozoa, Candida, trichamonas, Chlamydia and other microorganisms. It also is used as an analgesic and cyst buster."
http://byronwhiteformulas.com/

Also there is this;
http://altmedicine.about.com/library/weekly/a...

"Usnea appears to kill bacteria by disrupting their metabolic function. Specifically, it uncouples oxidative phosphorylation by acting on the inner mitochondrial membrane and also has ATP-ase activity. Both of these mechanisms ultimately kill bacterial cells by cutting off their energy supply. Unlike bacterial cells, human cells are less permeable to usnic acid and are not adversely affected.
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/usnea-a-5252.h...
Antifungal - effective against tinea infections such as ringworm, athletes foot and also against Candida albicans.

Antiparasitic- effective against Trichomonas and Chlamydia in vaginal infections.
Antibacterial - effective against gram positive bacteria in local or systemic infections
Immune regulator & supporter - boosts the immune system in cases such as acute and chronic lung infections (pleurisy, TB and pneumonia, colds and flus and any other time of poor immune function.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16132842

ďIn addition, these extracts were inhibitory against Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus subtilis and Staphylococcus aureus with MIC values of 5-10 microg/ml.Ē

There are quite a few sites listing Usnea for Lyme applications and other general health applications.

http://www.beneficialbotanicals.com/tincture-...

The herbsforlyme site lists its abilities as this;
Applications: Cyst form of Bb.
Other Applications: Ehrlichia, Bartonella, Mycobacteria, Mycoplasma, Candida
*Antibacterial, antifungal

Iíve read in a few places that when Doxycycline is used it killed the lyme spirochetes but the cyst form doubled. So it didnít really kill the spirochete they just changed form to avoid the doxy. Iím not a fan of synthetic antibiotics at all but I think there could be a place for Usnea alongside doxycycline use for people who want to go that route, ill advised though.

To avoid the appearance of liver toxicity it could be a good idea to start with a low dose of 2 drops 2 x a day and then take a couple days off so you can detox the liver then go back at 3 drops 2 x a day and continue in some such manner until you have killed what it will kill in the liver and detoxed that in steps then go to 10 or 15 drops twice a day depending on herxís. I found the herb-pharm brand at my local health store for $9 a bottle.

Since: May 12

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#7 May 23, 2013
Usnea kills both gram positive and gram negative bacteria, wow.

This is a good study on Usnea, "IN-VITRO ANTIBACTERIAL SCREENING OF EXTRACTS OF
USNEA LONGISSIMA LICHEN" from the International Journal of Applied Biology and Pharmaceutical Technology.

http://www.ijabpt.com/pdf/97003-Abdur%20rauf%...

"The results of antimicrobial activity of Usnea longissima extracts showed a wide range of antibacterial activity against Gram positive and Gram negative bacteria."

http://www.academia.edu/1088393/Antimicrobial...

"most of the lichens have been reported to be active against Gram positive bacteria, but
it is of great interest to note that the extracts of E. nepalense and U. longifolia (Usnea)
equally inhibited the growth of both Gram negative and positive bacteria."

Don't get sloppy with usnea, like I said it is the bomb and will take you for a ride when you are herxing.

Since: May 12

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#8 May 23, 2013
More post will be made her on different treatments that can be very important in a full recovery. You can't do everything at once or you'll just get sick. In the meantime start drinking a good detox tea like "yogi".

The oxylift cocktail should be taken twice a day on an empty stomach.
FRED

Golden, CO

#9 May 24, 2013
One of the insect vectored infections that mites carry is babesia. I always like to find herbals that are specific to the particular infection as wel as extremely broad spectum. One that would work well for babesia is Anamu.

http://www.rain-tree.com/anamu.htm#.UZ_QVZzQ_...

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FRED

Golden, CO

#10 May 24, 2013
I will be posting shortly on Biofilms, Intracellular infections, Central nervous system infections and pleomorphic forms. Understanding these conditions will serve to guide you in your treatment strategy.

*Detoxing properly is half the battle

*You must know what to expect from the herxhiemer reaction.
Please help

United States

#11 May 24, 2013
[you are to smart for me Fred but i am very willibg to learn step by step if you would please help me. i have had a very bad case of scabies for 3/4 months after the six weeks of original infection of not knowing. each thing you have mentioned i have had. i could not understand what has happened to my body but no doctors here no anything or wont help just found obe testerday willing to help but she too admits she will have to study and we are all praying. fred a four week mange pig infected six adults and two nine year olds, a local farm. a vet gave it a lime bath and ivemectin shot and its now fine. although everyone got rid of this horrible scabies i have been resistant and swarmed with them. reading your posts i see many things that i have and you have made so much clear to me. fred i am taking my second dosing of ivemectin and using several natural and pesticid tropicals the movement has been something impossible to cope with. in my hair, face, feet and hands. black specks, white string fungus, after using germ x. i meed to start step by step to cure myself for the long run and of course i pray the ivemectin will work but i now no from your posts its not going to totally cure me. please go slow for me naming 3 or 4 even 5 things i can buy to stop the bugs and lead me back to my sanity and then my health. i will go to health food stores or chinese dr's or herb shops, and follow your lead. will you help me get better? i no ur not s doctor but i trust you. thank you. abd fred am i always catchey? im always cleaning my area, changing or throwing my clothes away. scarded to touch or be touched. its sad these scabies. QUOTE who="FRED"]I will be posting shortly on Biofilms, Intracellular infections, Central nervous system infections and pleomorphic forms. Understanding these conditions will serve to guide you in your treatment strategy.
*Detoxing properly is half the battle
*You must know what to expect from the herxhiemer reaction.
FRED

Golden, CO

#13 May 25, 2013
Please help wrote:
[you are to smart for me Fred but i am very willibg to learn step by step if you would please help me. i have had a very bad case of scabies for 3/4 months after the six weeks of original infection of not knowing. each thing you have mentioned i have had. i could not understand what has happened to my body but no doctors here no anything or wont help just found obe testerday willing to help but she too admits she will have to study and we are all praying. fred a four week mange pig infected six adults and two nine year olds, a local farm. a vet gave it a lime bath and ivemectin shot and its now fine. although everyone got rid of this horrible scabies i have been resistant and swarmed with them. reading your posts i see many things that i have and you have made so much clear to me. fred i am taking my second dosing of ivemectin and using several natural and pesticid tropicals the movement has been something impossible to cope with. in my hair, face, feet and hands. black specks, white string fungus, after using germ x. i meed to start step by step to cure myself for the long run and of course i pray the ivemectin will work but i now no from your posts its not going to totally cure me. please go slow for me naming 3 or 4 even 5 things i can buy to stop the bugs and lead me back to my sanity and then my health. i will go to health food stores or chinese dr's or herb shops, and follow your lead. will you help me get better? i no ur not s doctor but i trust you. thank you. abd fred am i always catchey? im always cleaning my area, changing or throwing my clothes away. scarded to touch or be touched. its sad these scabies. QUOTE who="FRED"]I will be posting shortly on Biofilms, Intracellular infections, Central nervous system infections and pleomorphic forms. Understanding these conditions will serve to guide you in your treatment strategy.
*Detoxing properly is half the battle
*You must know what to expect from the herxhiemer reaction.
These are complicated issues and in order for you to conquer them you must stay engaged. I am creating this thread as a data base for people to follow because weather they realize it or not it applies to them. If they read and understand the material I will post then they will know how to move forward. I have been on this forum too long and have no need to be here . I am providing this information to serve who has the ability to use it. Self determination means taking steps to take charge of your health. Everyone should be making their own decisions, the more they understand the more capable they will be to do that. I won't be helping anyone here personally as this forum has been a giant source of grief. I will be posting information on this thread that if people bother to read and understand will lead them out of their mess.
FRED

Golden, CO

#14 May 25, 2013
Their are several different types of pathogens that invade the body. Viruses, different types of parasitic organisms, bacteria, Piroplasms are protozoan parasites, etc. These pathogens use different strategies to evade the immune system, you need different types of treatments to access them .

Intracellular Infections:

Your cell walls have microscopic ports in them that allow the cell to process nutrients and waste created in the cell in and out of the cell. There are various way in which your immune system works , One of thes is by using Cd-57 killer cells, these work in the blood and tissue plasma and aren't intracellular. The creation of oxygen inside the cells is a naturally occurring defense mechanism but as the blood and tissue becomes polluted from toxins the cell ports become clogged and this capability is deminished. You will need to get your liver up and running to clean your blood. You will need to get your digestion working to process bad components out of the body.

Biofilms:

Biofilms are pathogenic communities created within the body. They contain a variety of pathogens and are a system the pathogens use so that they can't be reached by effective treatments. The need to be treated with treatments that both penetrate the biofilms and disolve the fibrin component that your body creates around the biofilm to protect itself from the infectious componenet. You can take serrapeptase, which is an enzyme, alone to dissolve the fibrin and Usnea(Usnic acid) will penetrate the biofilm and kill the pathogens there. If you don't support your cells and tissues at the same time with lipids and sterols and a good diet then these components will also work on other tissues.

Central nervous system infections:

To treat central nervous system infection you need treatments that cross the Blood Brain Barrier. Babesia and Bartonella both infect the central nervous system.

Pleomorphic states:

In the case of Borrielia there are several different forms it takes to evade the immune system and treatments. The borrielia will actually shed it's own cell wall in order to be small enough to enter your cell ports and become an intracellular infection. Biofilms are another form, the cyst form is another form.

The different pathogens have the ability to share DNA and they also communicate using quorum sensing. This enables them to become more resistant so you need treatments they can't develop resistance to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biofilm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleomorphism_%28...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_infectio...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathogenic_bacte...

To get healthy you have to support your detox pathways, get good nutrition and hydration , stop exposure to toxins, treat for the wide variety of pathogenic infections that you have and learn how to read and manage the herxhiemer reaction.

Unless you've been living in a bubble your whole life then you can count on having a variety of infections. If you ever have traveled abroad, eaten at restaurants, pet a dog or cat or worked in the soil you have infections.
FRED

Golden, CO

#15 May 25, 2013
Of course there is a lot more info on the net about the above topics.

I've already mentioned detox pathways in a previous post. It is important for you to eat a good diet and in this day and age it goes way beyond the 5 food groups. You don't want to eat foods that are genetically engineered that will produce pesticide inside you, you don't want to eat foods that will alter your DNA.

If you consider that there is the fluid genome relative to what genetic engineering has accomplished and how it is spread by our food chain and the animal kingdom's food chain and animal migratory habits then the potential for ever evolving pathogenic strains and species becomes clear.

The agrobacterium Ti was created to cause horizontal gene transfer in subject plants for benefit and was said not to effect other species but it effects all species, because organisms use similar DNA structures, this is a fundamental game changer in our environment.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/agrobacteriumAndMorge...

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/FSAopenmeeting.php

"Recent Evidence Confirms Risks of Horizontal Gene Transfer"

http://hstalks.com/main/view_talk.php...

I consider Dr. Mae Wan Ho to be one of the foremost authorities in the world on genetic structure and genetic engineering.



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

"A culture of cooperation"

Why you should eat an organic diet;

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
FRED

Golden, CO

#16 May 25, 2013
The herxheimer effect, a door you have to walk through;

Feeling worse before feeling better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarisch-Herxheim...

http://biovedawellness.com/2010/02/the-herxhe...

http://www.falconblanco.com/health/crisis.htm

You have to know that if it becomes overwhelming you need to back off the dosage of remedies by half until it subsides. It can last for months depending on your infection level and how efficiently you are detoxing. Hydration, Hydration, Hydration.
FRED

Golden, CO

#17 May 25, 2013
I will post the herbal tinctures here that are effective in removing infections in a final dose protocol. You have to work up to these doses slowly so you don't herx way too much. You can always do your own research.

Cinnamon Bark Tincture -30 drops
Mixed with Quina tincture -10 drops
Taken in a full glass of clean water on an empty stomach
(Cinnamon Bark is a broad spectrum antimicrobial that is also intracellular, Quina is a broad spectrum antimcrobial that is also protozoa specific, Babesia)
These treatments should be switched out with Samento and Banderol tinctures monthly, so you alternate.

Wait 15 minutes and then take this;
Taken in a full glass of clean water on an empty stomach

Rosemary tincture- 30 drops
Olive leaf extract tincture- 30 drops
Usnea tincture- 10-15 drops
Oxylift- 8 drops

(Rosemary inhibits quorum sensing
Olive leaf is an effective anti viral, antifungal
Usnea I've already posted on extensively
Oxylift is an ionic oxygen formula that creates oxygen inside cells in a natural manner)

Wait 15 minutes and then take this;
Taken in a full glass of clean water on an empty stomach

Teasel Tincture- 20 drops

(Teasel causes pathogens to come out of hiding so that they can be treated by the other treatments.)

Wait 15 minutes and then take this;
Taken in a full glass of clean water on an empty stomach

Cryptolepis tincture- 20 drops
Sida Acuta tincture-15 drops
Anamu Tincture- 15 drops

(cryptolepis is broad spectrum and babesia specific, Sida Acuta is similar, Anamu is magic)

You will need to take these remedies twice a day , once on rising and then before dinner.

Houttuynia can be taken at any time during the day, the best way is to mix a half teaspoon of the powder with an herbal detox tea, do this twice a day. It is extremely effective for Bartonella, Bartonella shuts down your immune system.

If you are following the above guidelines then the herx that is the most uncomfortable part will last a month or so then it will come in ever lessening cycles until you Herx no more.

You need to do the herbal tinctures for a year in order to get all tissues and the bone marrow. The houttuynia for 6 months. You will start t feel really good at two months though, probably by then the ringing in your ears from the herx will have stopped.

I've established what is the problem and I have shown a way to heal yourself , i've saved you the time of finding this information by yourself and put it in a concise thread. It's up to you now.

Ther are many resources on the web that will substantiate what I have said , a good one is the "rain forest tropical plant database".

If you think your going to rub permethrin all over yourself or take Ivermectin to return to vitality and health you are very very wrong.

Good Luck

Peace- out
FRED

Golden, CO

#18 May 25, 2013
BTW, this will take care of your "scabies" too.
FRED

Golden, CO

#19 May 27, 2013
The herbal tinctures are more powerful than you might expect , and they are synergistic, so I wouldn't consider them supplements, I like to think of them as medicine from mother nature.

The Cinnamon Bark Tincture, Olive Leaf Extract Tincture, Rosemary Tincture, Usnea Tincture and Chanca Piedra Tincture I like are made by Herb-Pharm, those are very good quality and are available in a lot of places online, You could try Healthsuperstore.com or Drugstore.com

The Cryptolepis and Sida Acuta tincture are available at woodlandessense.com

The Samento, Banderol and Quina tinctures are made by Nutramedix and are available is a few places online , you could try Healthsuperstore.com or Drugstore.com or webvitamins.com , you might want to call and make sure they are in stock.

Anamu Tincture you can get from rainpharm.com

The Teasel tincture I found on Ebay, the brand I have is from "beneficial botanicals"

Oxylift you have to get from their website, that is oxygenamerica.com

You can find Lecithin, Taurine and probiotics at any good vitamin shop.
FRED

Golden, CO

#20 May 28, 2013
You can Judge what I'm saying any way you like , the bottom line is that it is scientifically substantiated fact and you are uninformed and unaware.

It took me almost two years of daily reading of a huge variety of scientific articles to connect these dots. Instead of judging these conclusions I challenge anyone to come up with some meaningful evidence to refute them.
FRED

Golden, CO

#21 May 28, 2013
Oh yeah , I am cured.

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