Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#351 Jan 17, 2011
RK in the house wrote:
Those questions above were for Canuckette who also stated that she saw lots of black specks.
Rk
Hi RK,
Yes, some of the specks have what look like fine threads around them. That's a great thought that they're making comfy little nests in our skin! I don't know much about Imidacloprid/Advantix except that some on this forum have used it. There is a thread about it.

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#352 Jan 17, 2011
Canuckette wrote:
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Hi RK,
Yes, some of the specks have what look like fine threads around them. That's a great thought that they're making comfy little nests in our skin! I don't know much about Imidacloprid/Advantix except that some on this forum have used it. There is a thread about it.
Hi Canuckette,
Here's part of an article that cites the threads/nests which could be similar to what you mention:

The fibers found off the open sores are of two types, textile and non-textile fibers. The textile fibers are of clothing or bedding sources and are often used by arthropod opportunistic infections as nesting material. The non-textile fibers are usually the mycelia of such opportunistic Mycetome fungi infections as Madurella spp. with the “black specks” being possibly their mycelial masses. The healing of some patients’ sores was observed to be correlated with the exit of remaining fibers from the lesions.5

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#353 Jan 17, 2011
armed and Canuckette, I too have had some of these strange things, but over the last 3 weeks or so, it's lessened. Netherlands wrote about bacteria that produces artifacts in Case Report. I also get the black specks.
I'm having success reducing the body mites. Made my own Capsaicin-like ointment. Soaked Cayenne pepper in coconut oil an hour or more, then mixed with my Corona ointment. It's very helpful for my head, but so far without it on scalp, I get about 4 hours relief from itching. Have some on now. When I wash it out, THIS time, I'll wash head with cool water in sink before getting into the warm bath. Burned like fury last bath!!! Won't injure, but sure feels like it would. Got some close enough to eyes, had to rinse many minutes with cool water.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#354 Jan 17, 2011
armed and fabulous wrote:
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Hi Canuckette,
Here's part of an article that cites the threads/nests which could be similar to what you mention:
The fibers found off the open sores are of two types, textile and non-textile fibers. The textile fibers are of clothing or bedding sources and are often used by arthropod opportunistic infections as nesting material. The non-textile fibers are usually the mycelia of such opportunistic Mycetome fungi infections as Madurella spp. with the �black specks� being possibly their mycelial masses. The healing of some patients� sores was observed to be correlated with the exit of remaining fibers from the lesions.5
Thanks Armed,
Wow - that is really interesting. You mentioned in another post that you had been tested for sensitivities. What kind of a doctor or naturopath would I need to look for to get tested? Did you have sores all over your body or just on the face? I do have dermatitis and other various allergies. I thought I was doing the right thing by getting rid of the mercury fillings. Maybe not.

Since: Apr 10

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#355 Jan 17, 2011
I think the bleach baths helped to lessen the bacteria--maybe that has something to do with less of the strange stuff.
How long do you--armed, Canuckette, others, think it could take to have the mites cleared up? If ever?

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#356 Jan 17, 2011
Canuckette wrote:
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Thanks Armed,
Wow - that is really interesting. You mentioned in another post that you had been tested for sensitivities. What kind of a doctor or naturopath would I need to look for to get tested? Did you have sores all over your body or just on the face? I do have dermatitis and other various allergies. I thought I was doing the right thing by getting rid of the mercury fillings. Maybe not.
Hi Canuckette,
Did you recently get rid of your mercury fillings also? It doesn't have to be recent to cause this, but mine was (4 months before this started).

As far as I know there are two labs that do testing in the US..not sure about Canada. The name of the test is Compatibility Testing for Dental Products and it is a blood test. The lab I used (in Colorado)charged $275 for it. They send you a kit and you get blood drawn at your local blood lab, then they follow the instructions and send it in. Perhaps you could start with a holistic dentist for the test until you know if the materials used in your fillings are highly reactive in your body. They would know about this test.

As far as I know, Dr Omar Amin in Arizona is the only one studying this relationship. I got the test thru him. On his website there is an area that explains the other parasite testing that he does. A doctor's referrel isn't required for any of the tests, but if you have a doctor that you trust you can include him/her in the process. I think I posted his information in the Case Report or the Rant thread. But if you google his name his Parasitology Center will come up. There are a lot of links to his articles under the Publications tab.

On the Mr. Common Sense Morgellons blog they talk about the toxin Tuolene (not sure if that spelling is correct)as being a possible cause for Morgellons. That toxin can come from a number of substances, dental work being just one.

My sores/bites started on my upper chest and ankles/feet, but eventually were all over including my face. They were always very slow to heal, and the ones on my face and neck would often have a deep reddish wrinkle on the skin nearby. I have had some asthma in recent years and also a dust mite allergy. One of my hobbies is gardening, and I was doing a lot of it when this started...so a soil born fungi thing may have started at the same time as the mite attack for me.

My skin is healing up fairly well but it will be a bit of a process to be entirely out of the woods. Now I'm less freaked out about environment because it doesn't affect me as much. I still use a half cup of hydrogen peroxide in my laundry and will for some time.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#357 Jan 18, 2011
Sig Olson wrote:
I think the bleach baths helped to lessen the bacteria--maybe that has something to do with less of the strange stuff.
How long do you--armed, Canuckette, others, think it could take to have the mites cleared up? If ever?
Hi Sig and Armed,
I didn't have much luck with the bleach baths in the beginning when I first realized that I had some kind of mite. But it likely would help a fungal issue. I'm wondering which came first. I had a skin staph infection since 1999 that I had picked up in a swimming pool BUT I had just had a massive mercury filling removed and replaced with the white filling. Nothing the doctor gave me helped until I started using iodine and skin sanitizer on my skin this year to try to combat the bugs. I was also doing A&H baths at the time. I no longer have a staph infection on my skin. The bites can get infected at times but what I had for all those years, always trying to be so careful so as not to infect my husband, not going in swimming pools so I wouldn't infect someone else, ended being similar to what I do now because of the bugs. I think the staph infection allowed the bugs to really gain ground before I realized that there was another problem. I'll look up that doctor.
Re: when will we ever be over this - I'm getting better all the time with the sulfur. I was using Nustock (73% sulfur 25%mineral oil) but ran out. While I wait for my order to arrive, I'm back to using lime-sulfur dip but it is so drying and it really stinks - thankfully no one at work has complained yet. So I am actually hopeful that I will get over these things. I've got vermox on order too to get rid of them internally. Maybe dealing with the fungal will make me less attractive to them. I would like to know anyway what they can discover since I've developed allergies through all these treatments to many skin creams.

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#358 Jan 18, 2011
Tried to post here a while ago and it wouldn't go.
Re-read the above posts. Maybe I need to go back to the bleach baths for my head. It's gone crazy itching.
I, too mostly think I'm getting better. Have some rough times, but overall-better.
Have to get the Sulfur 8. I did add 3 capsules worth of MSM to my AM SUPER shampoo to get the corona out. Had several hours with no itch--then hit again.
Corona with cayenne & some coconut oil on entire body overnight, pulled big amount of mites out, so had the A&H bath this AM. Will do mild bleach bath tonight. Maybe it'll help the head.
Thanks Ladies!

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#359 Jan 18, 2011
I leave here in 10 days and will be gone for 16 days. Lucky me, but trying to figure out how to take stuff I'll need. Sunshine and salt water will help.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#360 Jan 22, 2011
Sig Olson wrote:
I leave here in 10 days and will be gone for 16 days. Lucky me, but trying to figure out how to take stuff I'll need. Sunshine and salt water will help.
When we went away this past summer, I put one cup measures of A&H in sandwich bags and put them all in a larger plastic bag so that I could have a soak every night. I included the label from the box in case there was any question. I also put a plastic non-aerosol insecticide spray bottle in the same large plastic bag so that I could spray the bed at night if the sheets hadn't been changed. That all went in my luggage of course.

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#361 Jan 22, 2011
Thanks Canuckette! I did pack a couple cups of A&H deterg & did the same with the label! I have such weird stuff packed--all health related; so don't think anything would surprise TSA! I've been putting it in a spray bottle and spraying head (or anywhere--including apartment)and adding dry A&H deterg or borax on head. Think I'm making good progress with head too.
I won't have a tub to soak in, but will spray and leave it on.
Have been using more B-Complex plus separate Folic Acid. If my pee isn't yellow, then I take more--up to about 3 per day, and about 2 folic acid per day.
Was thinking about the non-aerosol bug spray, but have a lotion bug repellent in. My head is the worst now. It feels like bugs, but think maybe a fungus. My body has less & less mites! I'm pleased--Very Pleased!
I'm down to 6 days. I'll miss everyone here!
How are you doing Canuckette? How long has this been going on for you?
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#362 Jan 23, 2011
Sig Olson wrote:
Thanks Canuckette! I did pack a couple cups of A&H deterg & did the same with the label! I have such weird stuff packed--all health related; so don't think anything would surprise TSA! I've been putting it in a spray bottle and spraying head (or anywhere--including apartment)and adding dry A&H deterg or borax on head. Think I'm making good progress with head too.
I won't have a tub to soak in, but will spray and leave it on.
Have been using more B-Complex plus separate Folic Acid. If my pee isn't yellow, then I take more--up to about 3 per day, and about 2 folic acid per day.
Was thinking about the non-aerosol bug spray, but have a lotion bug repellent in. My head is the worst now. It feels like bugs, but think maybe a fungus. My body has less & less mites! I'm pleased--Very Pleased!
I'm down to 6 days. I'll miss everyone here!
How are you doing Canuckette? How long has this been going on for you?
Hi Sig,
Glad to hear the good report. The bug repellant is a great idea. Are you still using the Corona? The A&H spray seemed to work for some here and should at least make them miserable and wanting to get away from you. I'm using 6-cup salt baths with 1/2 cup of OxyClean in it which has sodium carbonate, what some say is the secret ingdient in A&H, and a bit of tea tree oil. As well, I'm using the sulfur cream for livestock, Nustock. It's working out well. A lot of the bites are healing up and fewer and fewer new bites. I'm finally hopeful.
It started in April 2009, with several misdagnoses before I finally figured it out for myself and then the MD agreed and saw a mite that was not a regular human scabies mite. Permethrin didn't work well so they just gave up on me. It may have been on my back and legs for a while before it appeared on my neck because of the resistant staph infection that I had had for 10 years. It was itchy and bloody so it may have masked the bugs. I'm pretty sure that I picked it up from someone at work that used to use my comfy chair all the time. Hanced the back and legs. Anyway, I feel like it's in decline and will soon be gone.

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#363 Jan 23, 2011
I looked for Nustoc at farm store here, they didn't know about it.
I've given up on permethrin. Results don't last long, and think it's what's caused so much hair loss.
Have had some of current symptoms for 3 years, and more for the last 2 years.
I see Eye Thyroid Doc tomorrow at University here. I have nothing "prepared" to ask or say. I don't expect much. Think Rochester Mayo is my best bet. Will work on something today.
I use salt--big amount too, sometimes-but doesn't seem like it matters much.
Gotta get some supplements in me, then into a bath.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#364 Jan 23, 2011
Sig Olson wrote:
I looked for Nustoc at farm store here, they didn't know about it.
I've given up on permethrin. Results don't last long, and think it's what's caused so much hair loss.
Have had some of current symptoms for 3 years, and more for the last 2 years.
I see Eye Thyroid Doc tomorrow at University here. I have nothing "prepared" to ask or say. I don't expect much. Think Rochester Mayo is my best bet. Will work on something today.
I use salt--big amount too, sometimes-but doesn't seem like it matters much.
Gotta get some supplements in me, then into a bath.
BTW, I took your advice and got the water softener salt - a lot cheaper. I`ve had many tiny black things on the belly too. I think they come from inside, although many say no.

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#365 Jan 23, 2011
Canuckette, Where else would they come from? I was rubbing them out and there were so many, had to wipe them away with a wash cloth. Then I reapplied Corona &/or A&H spray and could about watch them coming to the surface. I had been doing 2 baths per day for a few days, but some skin was getting too raw. Have had 1 today, and might do a 2nd milder bath again tonight.
I was using some bug repellent for a while at home. It worked for a while only. Will probably only use it for any forest-type activity or if a beach is buggy.
I am into 5th or even 6th week of Neem, Goldenseal, & Turmeric, using more of the Neem and Turmeric. It would coincide with my being better. Somebody said to use it nightly for 6 weeks.
I'm concerned for beagagal, she doesn't sound good.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#366 Jan 24, 2011
Sig Olson wrote:
Canuckette, Where else would they come from? I was rubbing them out and there were so many, had to wipe them away with a wash cloth. Then I reapplied Corona &/or A&H spray and could about watch them coming to the surface. I had been doing 2 baths per day for a few days, but some skin was getting too raw. Have had 1 today, and might do a 2nd milder bath again tonight.
I was using some bug repellent for a while at home. It worked for a while only. Will probably only use it for any forest-type activity or if a beach is buggy.
I am into 5th or even 6th week of Neem, Goldenseal, & Turmeric, using more of the Neem and Turmeric. It would coincide with my being better. Somebody said to use it nightly for 6 weeks.
I'm concerned for beagagal, she doesn't sound good.
Considering that they seem to be internal as well as external, your Neem etc concoction is likely really important. Do you mind telling us how much you use of each? I'll start that too. I'm waiting for my Vermox to come. I hope that helps as well.
I know what you mean - I've been thinking that too. This battle just gets so difficult at times and sometimes slow. I find it helps to remember how far I've come. Sometimes it's hard to remember when we get setbacks.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#367 Jan 24, 2011
armed and fabulous wrote:
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Hi Canuckette,
Did you recently get rid of your mercury fillings also? It doesn't have to be recent to cause this, but mine was (4 months before this started).
As far as I know there are two labs that do testing in the US..not sure about Canada. The name of the test is Compatibility Testing for Dental Products and it is a blood test. The lab I used (in Colorado)charged $275 for it. They send you a kit and you get blood drawn at your local blood lab, then they follow the instructions and send it in. Perhaps you could start with a holistic dentist for the test until you know if the materials used in your fillings are highly reactive in your body. They would know about this test.
As far as I know, Dr Omar Amin in Arizona is the only one studying this relationship. I got the test thru him. On his website there is an area that explains the other parasite testing that he does. A doctor's referrel isn't required for any of the tests, but if you have a doctor that you trust you can include him/her in the process. I think I posted his information in the Case Report or the Rant thread. But if you google his name his Parasitology Center will come up. There are a lot of links to his articles under the Publications tab.
On the Mr. Common Sense Morgellons blog they talk about the toxin Tuolene (not sure if that spelling is correct)as being a possible cause for Morgellons. That toxin can come from a number of substances, dental work being just one.
My sores/bites started on my upper chest and ankles/feet, but eventually were all over including my face. They were always very slow to heal, and the ones on my face and neck would often have a deep reddish wrinkle on the skin nearby. I have had some asthma in recent years and also a dust mite allergy. One of my hobbies is gardening, and I was doing a lot of it when this started...so a soil born fungi thing may have started at the same time as the mite attack for me.
My skin is healing up fairly well but it will be a bit of a process to be entirely out of the woods. Now I'm less freaked out about environment because it doesn't affect me as much. I still use a half cup of hydrogen peroxide in my laundry and will for some time.
Hi Armed,
Are you doing anything else to get free? I'm an avid gardener as well. It's like being a detective - where did this come from.

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#368 Jan 24, 2011
Canuckette wrote:
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Considering that they seem to be internal as well as external, your Neem etc concoction is likely really important. Do you mind telling us how much you use of each? I'll start that too. I'm waiting for my Vermox to come. I hope that helps as well.
I know what you mean - I've been thinking that too. This battle just gets so difficult at times and sometimes slow. I find it helps to remember how far I've come. Sometimes it's hard to remember when we get setbacks.
I got some of this from Jeannie, For 6 weeks, in the evening, 1 Goldenseal, 1 turmeric(have used turmeric for years so, I use2-4 per day, or use spice--cheaper), 1 Neem. I've been using max Neem according to label,+ I added Sea Buckthorn max according to label. Spread the extras out through the day. I throw in an Alpha Lipoic acid occasionally (very drying), and I use MANY others--think Cayenne could be important for this too. Again, I've used it for years, so I use about 4 per day-2each, 2X per day. If you aren't used to Cayenne & Turmeric, suggest start lower serving. Just the 1 Goldenseal. It isn't usually used for more than 1 week at a time at higher dose for sure. If my pee isn't yellow, I have more B complex plus some Folic acid, up to 3 B complex per day, and usually 2 Folic acid.
DISCLAIMER:) this is what I choose to do and am only sharing my personal choices for myself.:)
I sometimes wonder if I've become dependent on them, or gives me super nutrition for them to thrive, again, more questions than answers.
I've been good most of the day. Got home a couple hours ago and itch is increasing--of course it's gotten dark out. Got very little sleep last night too.
If I'm good through my trip, then it IS this apartment/building--at least partly.
I'm running out of time. Weather looks good for flying! HEEE HAHHH
More Happy Trails!
Yes, we have come quite a way. I've been remembering a few things I don't see anymore.

Came across a mite that's the bane of marijuana growers, similar to spider mite.(lots of spider mites outdoors here, & small enough could go unnoticed inside if they get in. Think it can bite people, but not sure. Plenty people smoking it in this building, at least 3 people in the 4 apartments on my floor, maybe more. The incense alone was making me sick. Have no objections if they can keep it in their own space. Will try to find more info.
Armed and Fabulous

San Anselmo, CA

#369 Jan 24, 2011
Canuckette wrote:
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Hi Armed,
Are you doing anything else to get free? I'm an avid gardener as well. It's like being a detective - where did this come from.
Hi Canuckette,
I can't go into detail about the protocol that was prescribed for me, but in general I'm doing major detox, a natural antiparasitic formula and treatment for the staph infection while I change out the bad fillings over several months time.
I don't feel affected by my environment at all anymore (which is a little scary to say after all this time). Today I even put on yesterdays jeans to do laundry...I know. The whole scabies forum just gasped!!
I still do fairly heavy laundry and still have the plastic covers on my bed which I wipe down before changing bedding.
I think mine may have been from multiple sources. They did some major mosquito spraying at a creek where I lived right before this happened, then there was the gardening often with bare hands and sandles, a friend of mine had a very bad moth problem in her house (Sig mentioned her exterminator said something about that), other than that could have been bird mites, rate mites, mold, something from the cat, "morgellons" bug (if such a bug exists), or even regular old scabies....any or all of those. In the case studies that Dr. Amin has done, many of the patients have evidence of several types of bugs and infections of the skin. That makes sense to me in that the lesions I have had looked different in the beginning than they did later.
As my toxicity level lifts I don't have the attraction that I used to.
Canuckette

Binbrook, Canada

#370 Jan 25, 2011
Armed and Fabulous wrote:
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Hi Canuckette,
I can't go into detail about the protocol that was prescribed for me, but in general I'm doing major detox, a natural antiparasitic formula and treatment for the staph infection while I change out the bad fillings over several months time.
I don't feel affected by my environment at all anymore (which is a little scary to say after all this time). Today I even put on yesterdays jeans to do laundry...I know. The whole scabies forum just gasped!!
I still do fairly heavy laundry and still have the plastic covers on my bed which I wipe down before changing bedding.
I think mine may have been from multiple sources. They did some major mosquito spraying at a creek where I lived right before this happened, then there was the gardening often with bare hands and sandles, a friend of mine had a very bad moth problem in her house (Sig mentioned her exterminator said something about that), other than that could have been bird mites, rate mites, mold, something from the cat, "morgellons" bug (if such a bug exists), or even regular old scabies....any or all of those. In the case studies that Dr. Amin has done, many of the patients have evidence of several types of bugs and infections of the skin. That makes sense to me in that the lesions I have had looked different in the beginning than they did later.
As my toxicity level lifts I don't have the attraction that I used to.
Thanks Armed. I could do that - just wondering about the teeth though, it would likely be fairly expensive. Was dealing with your teeth the turning point in your battle?(Yes, we all gasped!)

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