Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#671 Dec 7, 2010
MEE TOO wrote:
I know we all want it gone bless all of us. Noone understands but people that has gone through it. I am 30 and I have learned to never judge people. So far in my life all of my strugles has made me a stronger person. Im trying really hard to keep it together thanks to you and Aaron its my highlight and the only break to get on here. Im so glad I stumbled up on this forum. Im getting better with my sleeping. I was waking up and instantly it was on my mind.
Girl, you are YOUNG!! no problem getting better. You are healthy, right? so, no problem, you will get better SOON. I promise...

I am just concerned about the pets. If they have anything???

I don't know what to tell you about bringing stuff back inside. Normal scabies, the mites should only last a few days in the environment, animal scabies last longer in upholstered furniture and carpeting, and in the car. It all depends on how infested you are, the kids, too. If you guys are reinfesting your environment. Do you feel anything when you use your computer. That is a classic sign of how heavily infested you are, because after about 5 minutes of using your computer, you will feel bites from the mites reentering on your hands, from your computer.
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#672 Dec 7, 2010
Oh no honey its not coming back in the house. I am throwing everything away but we have to clean it up out of the front yard. I dont know when its safe to touch the stuff outside to throw it away. Its been snowing so the trash pile looks even bigger. We are trying to get a dumpster set here to put it all in. I tossed out all our furniter and cloths and went and bought air mattress to sleep on. I bought new sheets new pillows new cloths. I bought just a few of everything to be able to keep the stuff cleaned everyday. It scared me to see how long it takes to get rid of this so i thought if i threw everything out and started with new then i knew they would get on our new stuff but not as much so it would be easier. The animals arent in my house anymore I took them to the shelter and told them they needed to be treated and what was going on they are so cute so Im confident they will get a good home. They havent been in the house for 3 or 4 days. I hope people dont think bad of me but I truely cant take care of them plus my family. I done what I felt i had to. I dont feel anything when i use the computer most of the time i have latex gloves on plus i whipe down the keyboard and mouse alot everyday. The top of my hands are raw from sweating in them gloves. I think our beds was heavily infested thats why we just threw em out. My house is bare its like we just moved in. Aaron do you really think Im gonna beat this? I really hope so I am giving it my all and I feel if I do beat this I can share my story step by step and help other people. Thanks for being my friend I think all of us need each other
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#673 Dec 7, 2010
I found some borax finally. I bought 4 boxes of it how much should I use and how all should i use it?

Since: Apr 10

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#674 Dec 7, 2010
MEE TOO, I was writing a post in answer to yours, then went to check something in another thread and got lost...

I'm glad to read you're thinking in a more positive way.

This forum has been a life-saver for me too.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#675 Dec 7, 2010
MEE TOO wrote:
I found some borax finally. I bought 4 boxes of it how much should I use and how all should i use it?
I use the Arm and Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent, a scoop per load. Maybe about a half of cup to a cup per load of Borax? plus wash in the hottest you can get the water. and dry for as long as you feel you need to. someone mentioned ironing their clothes, as the iron is super hot. So, who is the most infested in your home? I used to wear those gloves, but I think I was creating a humid environment for the mites in those gloves, and was actually reinfesting myself with them on. Yes!! I think you can do it!!! Most certainly.... I'm sorry about the pets, me too.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#676 Dec 7, 2010
Just leave that stuff right out there and don't mess with it for 2 weeks. The stuff that has hard surfaces, you can handle that first, with gloves on. the beds. don't mess with them for a while. these mites are small. they will eventually dry up and die with no host to feed off.
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#677 Dec 7, 2010
Thanks for thinking i can do this sometimes i dont think i can. The animal situation is hard, they become part of your family i feel horrible. Me and my husband are arguing. I get depressed then Im ok i dont even make since to myself sometimes. My son is the most infested which looks alot better since weve treated, my other son got a few but he hasnt got any new ones since weve treated and the old ones dont itch, me ive got a few my husband has a few and my little girl has some but their not red but they itch. she seems to be itching less. I bathed her today in tea tree oil. and the son thats the worst i fixed him a tea tree oil bath. The rest of us took showers and spot treated with the tea tree oil. Thanks for the info its been really cold here does that kill them? I dont know if my husband will let it set out their for 2 weeks. Its already been a week so one more shouldnt hurt. I feel so selfish How are you doing Aaron? How are you Sig Olson? I hope yall are doing well. I know I say all the time i dont know what id do without yall. I guess your tired of hearing it. I wish I could help yall out like yall have me.
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#678 Dec 7, 2010
Sig Olson wrote:
MEE TOO, I was writing a post in answer to yours, then went to check something in another thread and got lost...
I'm glad to read you're thinking in a more positive way.
This forum has been a life-saver for me too.
I went and wrote my bath, bed and clothing routine it was long. It was every detail and it didnt post i still havent had time to do it again hopefully in the future i can write it and help people. How are you doing? I hope you are doing well I dont know your situation i havent had much time to read much on here, I wish you the best and good luck with everything.

Since: Apr 10

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#679 Dec 8, 2010
I'm sure you have a good cleaning regimen, but please don't torture yourself.

If you want to share your practices, that'd be fine, but I don't think anyone here wants you hurting yourself any more than you are already hurting.

Do something fun, take a break, relax, chill. Tell us a joke.........:

(I/We hurt for you too.)
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#680 Dec 8, 2010
This is from the birdmitesorg yahoo group.

I have been lurking for a while now, and only just joined to reply to a post, so since I've broken the ice, here I am!
>
> I want to share what has worked for me:
>
> Epsom salts - I was leaving this on all night, but it made my skin so dry it hurt, so now I just use the epsom water as a pre-rinse before the shower or bath. It kills everything on your skin, and helps draw out debris from your pores to be washed away in the shower.
>
> I also make my own cream and add rosemary essential oil, or just add it to olive oil and put it in a bath. Lovely smell, calms the itching and relaxes you and also repels the bug. Eucalyptus oil is another one that is stellar for this situation.
>
> For my hair, which is thick, nothing worked until I put a few drops of oregano oil into my shampoo. Now my scalp is free of the bug.
>
> My biggest point of infestation was the face, with lots of crystals and specks coming out when I rub it with oil. I found that castor oil (recommended on this forum) was the key to getting rid of these. I use it about 3 times a week (more than that is very drying), rubbing it into my face and wiping it off along with all the specks and crystals. I know it's helping, when I do it at night, I wake up without the "salt" around my eyes that I used to get.
>
> For my environment, I just clean, clean, clean - and vaccuum ALOT. I have a very powerful vacuum - I use the Mighty Mite by Eureka and it kicks ass! I clean the floors and hard surfaces with ammonia, and about once a week I spray down the furniture and area rugs with Dust MIte and Flea Control boric acid treatment.
>
> I'm winning the battle! Used to be, when I would go outside, things would start popping out of my face and my body would itch. Now, my face feels clean and the air on it feels great!
>
> Whatever your protocol, you have to give it time to work! At least 60 days, and you can't slack off. Clean the floors EVERY DAY. And don't break the bank trying everything that people recommend until you try the cost-effective things first. For instance, instead of buying expensive balm, make your own, it's very easy. Oil, beeswax and essential oils - you can make a batch of balm for ten people for the cost of buying it already made. The oils I mentioned - rosemary and eucalyptus, are fairly inexpensive, as are others. Be careful with the oregano though, you probably don't want to put that on your face as it is quite strong!
>
> Good luck to all - stay positive. Think of it this way - every time you kill one of these things, you're also killing all its descendants. This demon reproduces very fast - the key is to keep killing more every day, than are born every day. Once the numbers start going down, it gets easier, but don't stop when you start to feel better - hit it twice as hard! Keep killing it, eventually you can wipe it out.
>
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#681 Dec 8, 2010
MEE TOO wrote:
Thanks for thinking i can do this sometimes i dont think i can. The animal situation is hard, they become part of your family i feel horrible. Me and my husband are arguing. I get depressed then Im ok i dont even make since to myself sometimes. My son is the most infested which looks alot better since weve treated, my other son got a few but he hasnt got any new ones since weve treated and the old ones dont itch, me ive got a few my husband has a few and my little girl has some but their not red but they itch. she seems to be itching less. I bathed her today in tea tree oil. and the son thats the worst i fixed him a tea tree oil bath. The rest of us took showers and spot treated with the tea tree oil. Thanks for the info its been really cold here does that kill them? I dont know if my husband will let it set out their for 2 weeks. Its already been a week so one more shouldnt hurt. I feel so selfish How are you doing Aaron? How are you Sig Olson? I hope yall are doing well. I know I say all the time i dont know what id do without yall. I guess your tired of hearing it. I wish I could help yall out like yall have me.
I know I sound like a broken record, but permethrin and ivermectin are the two strongest meds you can take for this. since your family is so young, and your immunities are really good, then you have to treat again with permethrin and, if you can, ivermectin. You cannot slack up on treatments. They say two doses of permethrin works, but I am not so sure in your case. Well, I understand that you two are arguing. It's a very stressful thing to go through. If your husband wants to remove all that stuff, he can go ahead and do it. He should wear gloves, though. Yeah, don't fight with him. Just let it be and do what you have to do to get rid of these things. The winter time is good for me because there is less humidity, so my numbers are down during the winter. As soon as April rolls around and it starts to heat up and the showers start, the mites go nuts. other than that, i'm good right now. my pets are pretty good right now.
they say the mites cannot handle extreme temps, but you never know handling beds, sofas, etc.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#682 Dec 8, 2010
From the thread called Scabies Remedy for Me.
Post number 106

Dear Tired,

So sorry you got reinfected. It may take awhile to kill all the eggs that are still hatching.

Here is what I'm doing now that seems to be getting the edge on the mites again:

Basic Mix
10 TBLS. Trimedica MSM lotion
10 TBLS. other oil based lotion such as bronner's magic skin lotion or miracle 2 lotion (with only half Trimedica my skin still gets its allergic response which I find helpful but I still get the benefit of the MSM)
3-4 TBLS sulfur finely powdered in a coffee grinder - otherwise it chunks up and burns the skin
1.5 capfuls of rubbing alchohol
1.5 Teaspoons Borax - this you will have to adjust to fit your skin needs, you should feel warming all over without burning. If you don't get the warming sensation, try adding a little more.

Additions:
25 drops tangerine or other citrus oil or other oils

In The Bath:

For a few minutes before soaking I lather up with a 5% sulfur soap I got at a health food store - just added this and seems to help.

I put my hair up and use a shower cap like you suggested, with the some selsun blue shampoo on dry hair.

In the Bath water:
I reduced down to 1 Cup of Borax
2 oz. Soap to kill any floaters
2 Cups Epsom salts
.4 Cup sea salt
Instead of using hydrogen peroxide I use 30 drops MMS-(Mineral Miracle Solution) activated in 2 teaspoons of citric acid (which highly oxygenates the water and kills protozoa, etc.) If you want to use hydrogen peroxide for convenience, check out Bill's earlier post, I can't remember how much he said.

I don't use any sulfur in the bath since it is my one time to be free of it for 20 minutes or so. I tried it and it made the bath so much less enjoyable - I decided just to use it the rest of the 24 hour period.

After the bath, I shower and wash my hair with the Selun Blue shampoo. Then blow dry my hair and skin. I do use a towel to pat dry and soak up most of the water from my hair. This towel goes immediately into a plastic bag.

After completely dry, I then apply the lotion and rub it in good all over. I bought a lotion applicator by Bass so I could reach my middle back.

Then I put diatomaceous earth in my hair along the base of my scalp and where it hangs down on my shoulders with some of the lotion. I haven't been applying to scalp but if you don't have to work or leave the house it probably would be a good idea.

I go to bed and do not shower in the morning. I add more lotion and rub it in good again. If I have itches during the day, I spot treat with more lotion and diatomaceous earth.

Every few days I add more DE to my mattress under the mattress pad.

I've been drying and washing bedding daily since I sleep with my husband but am going to try a sleeping bag for me for the next few nights and wear the same night clothes to see if Phoenix's method will help.

Hope this helps.

I'm still debating on the permithrin. I don't have any left so would have to get another prescription. The BB sounnds too harsh for the state of my skin.

I have new bites again today too. I had so many before starting the sulfur 2 weeks ago. This is definitely helping and I feel so much better overall. The borax in the mix definitely helps.

Mostly I'm living out of bagged clothes that have been isolated for at least a week. Tonight I'll try Phoenix's same clothing method for sleeping.

She also said shower instead of bath, but I tried that and the baths are much more effective for me.

Since: Apr 10

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#683 Dec 8, 2010
MEE TOO wrote:
I found some borax finally. I bought 4 boxes of it how much should I use and how all should i use it?
I use about 1/4 -1/2 cup borax plus same amount Baking Soda per load. Sometimes I add some laundry detergent, sometimes not. I always put bleach in white loads, ammonia in dark loads.(Don't ever mix ammonia and bleach--deadly fumes)

Adjust for your water, etc.

Since: Apr 10

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#684 Dec 8, 2010
OH--dissolve the borax in warm water or it will clump up.

Check out 20 Mule Team website. Lots of good info and ideas.
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#685 Dec 8, 2010
Sig Olson wrote:
I'm sure you have a good cleaning regimen, but please don't torture yourself.
If you want to share your practices, that'd be fine, but I don't think anyone here wants you hurting yourself any more than you are already hurting.
Do something fun, take a break, relax, chill. Tell us a joke.........:
(I/We hurt for you too.)
My family is doing better I think we are getting the upper hand on these things. I have made the top of my hands raw from the latex gloves. I am for sure gonna slack off of them. I just feel better since we have got all the major cleaning done now its just keeping it up and that has to be easier than the major cleaning. I feel like they should be meetings and support groups for the monsters inside of us. This forum works great for me. I feel like I have found friends forever. Take care sig hope your doing well.
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#686 Dec 8, 2010
Sig Olson wrote:
OH--dissolve the borax in warm water or it will clump up.
Check out 20 Mule Team website. Lots of good info and ideas.
thanks i didnt know that i was just putting it in the washer
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#687 Dec 8, 2010
Aaron wrote:
<quoted text>
I know I sound like a broken record, but permethrin and ivermectin are the two strongest meds you can take for this. since your family is so young, and your immunities are really good, then you have to treat again with permethrin and, if you can, ivermectin. You cannot slack up on treatments. They say two doses of permethrin works, but I am not so sure in your case. Well, I understand that you two are arguing. It's a very stressful thing to go through. If your husband wants to remove all that stuff, he can go ahead and do it. He should wear gloves, though. Yeah, don't fight with him. Just let it be and do what you have to do to get rid of these things. The winter time is good for me because there is less humidity, so my numbers are down during the winter. As soon as April rolls around and it starts to heat up and the showers start, the mites go nuts. other than that, i'm good right now. my pets are pretty good right now.
they say the mites cannot handle extreme temps, but you never know handling beds, sofas, etc.
Aaron we treated in the perm like nov 30th then we did it again like dec 3. Cant remember the exact dates but it was only a few days apart. Which has helped us all. Well i am for sure gonna do it again which will make the third but when do you think we should do it again i think it says 7 to 14 days. Im not sure about when would be the best. I think my family was lucky because I dont think we got it that bad except for my son, and he is looking alot better. Im sorry that April is a bad time for you wish they would just go away. I wish we would all just be cured. Its awful it takes so much effort. I have had lifelost on my mind if you know what Im talking about. I hate to see people thinking about taking their life over this crap. I try to tell myself that when things are bad they could always be worst. We arent gonna touch the couch and stuff right now for at least another week.
MEE TOO

Beckley, WV

#688 Dec 8, 2010
Sig Olson wrote:
<quoted text>
I use about 1/4 -1/2 cup borax plus same amount Baking Soda per load. Sometimes I add some laundry detergent, sometimes not. I always put bleach in white loads, ammonia in dark loads.(Don't ever mix ammonia and bleach--deadly fumes)
Adjust for your water, etc.
Wow I didnt think about baking soda or amonia. I do use bleach for the whites. Thats why I bought all white sheets so i could bleach them too. How much ammonia should i put? Thanks for the tips.

Since: Apr 10

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#689 Dec 8, 2010
MEE TOO wrote:
<quoted text>
thanks i didnt know that i was just putting it in the washer
Hadn't thought about it--but, yes, it makes great cleaning solution for most anything. Cleans and sanitizes. I use it in my bathroom and kitchen--most anywhere, besides the laundry.
Sorry, just had laundry in my head.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#690 Dec 8, 2010
MEE TOO wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaron we treated in the perm like nov 30th then we did it again like dec 3. Cant remember the exact dates but it was only a few days apart. Which has helped us all. Well i am for sure gonna do it again which will make the third but when do you think we should do it again i think it says 7 to 14 days. Im not sure about when would be the best. I think my family was lucky because I dont think we got it that bad except for my son, and he is looking alot better. Im sorry that April is a bad time for you wish they would just go away. I wish we would all just be cured. Its awful it takes so much effort. I have had lifelost on my mind if you know what Im talking about. I hate to see people thinking about taking their life over this crap. I try to tell myself that when things are bad they could always be worst. We arent gonna touch the couch and stuff right now for at least another week.
Hi Me Too. That is great that your son is doing better!! So, I would say, wait 10 days from the last time you applied the perm, to do another treatment. Pay close attention to your son, in the meantime.

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