DE and Grapeseed oil

Hollywood, FL

#570 Aug 12, 2010
(continued from Vann from above post)
MISC NOTES Part 2
==========
Expensive POISONS such as Benzamul, Permethrin, Lindane or Ivermectin ? FORGET IT!
I quit taking the tub soaks, could not see worthwhile results, and IMO were also toxic, hash to skin.
I quit on stinkin things like Neem Oil, Cedarcide.
Dramatic results were seen within 1 month, keep it up for 2 more months to prevent reinfection. There you have it. Cured of Scabbies with minimal disruptions to my life many thanks to the Miracle of Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth.
Grapeseed Oil is also a miracle product. I apply it to my feet every morning. It has cured my cracked, scaling, fugly feet and even cleared up my fugly toenails!
Why does this non-toxic approach work?
It makes the critters crawl through a KILLER at every turn. They can't get to or from our bed without crawling through DE. They can't get to you under the sheets without crawling through DE. If, by some miracle they get to your skin, they are hit again with the film of DE left from the Grapeseed oil. They are hit once again by DE coming out of their nesting burrow, or from their molting pouch. I also suspect that Grapeseed Oil smothers them to death. That is for someone else to research. This might explain why my wife never got Scabies... she covers herself in grapeseed oil after her showers. Makes her dry skin silky smooth and removes many wrinkles.
Some of us are taking DE internally. We are detailing our results here - See this link for more:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TV6 ...
Do an internet search for the best prices on Grapeseed oil + food grade DE. We bought a 10 lb bag for ourselves & the neighbors. I buy Grapeseed oil by the dozen. We use it for cooking, salads, rubbing oil, and on my feet.
Best of luck to all,
My DE cure should work equally well for ALL forms of mites, bedbugs, and even bird lice. Get your lives back to normal and stop using the expensive poisons & harsh chemicals. Stop wasting your valuable time on needless washing, cleaning, trips to the expensive doctors.

Vann
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#571 Sep 13, 2010
I am bumping this thread up to the top, as it contains some helpful information.
OVER IT

United States

#572 Sep 17, 2010
Too funny. Vann has an entourage of one. lol.
Mange

Englewood, CO

#573 Sep 19, 2010
Has anyone tried dermisil for scabies????
Anonymous

Englewood, CO

#574 Sep 19, 2010
DE and Grapeseed oil wrote:
(continued from Vann from above post)
MISC NOTES Part 2
==========
Expensive POISONS such as Benzamul, Permethrin, Lindane or Ivermectin ? FORGET IT!
I quit taking the tub soaks, could not see worthwhile results, and IMO were also toxic, hash to skin.
I quit on stinkin things like Neem Oil, Cedarcide.
Dramatic results were seen within 1 month, keep it up for 2 more months to prevent reinfection. There you have it. Cured of Scabbies with minimal disruptions to my life many thanks to the Miracle of Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth.
Grapeseed Oil is also a miracle product. I apply it to my feet every morning. It has cured my cracked, scaling, fugly feet and even cleared up my fugly toenails!
Why does this non-toxic approach work?
It makes the critters crawl through a KILLER at every turn. They can't get to or from our bed without crawling through DE. They can't get to you under the sheets without crawling through DE. If, by some miracle they get to your skin, they are hit again with the film of DE left from the Grapeseed oil. They are hit once again by DE coming out of their nesting burrow, or from their molting pouch. I also suspect that Grapeseed Oil smothers them to death. That is for someone else to research. This might explain why my wife never got Scabies... she covers herself in grapeseed oil after her showers. Makes her dry skin silky smooth and removes many wrinkles.
Some of us are taking DE internally. We are detailing our results here - See this link for more:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TV6 ...
Do an internet search for the best prices on Grapeseed oil + food grade DE. We bought a 10 lb bag for ourselves & the neighbors. I buy Grapeseed oil by the dozen. We use it for cooking, salads, rubbing oil, and on my feet.
Best of luck to all,
My DE cure should work equally well for ALL forms of mites, bedbugs, and even bird lice. Get your lives back to normal and stop using the expensive poisons & harsh chemicals. Stop wasting your valuable time on needless washing, cleaning, trips to the expensive doctors.
Vann
where did you buy the grapeseed oil???
still desperate

Hoboken, NJ

#575 Sep 23, 2010
No Name wrote:
I thought we should add a new thread for people who are cured, so they could share what specifically they did to be cured in the hopes that we may all post in this thread soon.
example:
<from Scabies in Phoenix>
10 month Scabies battle over.
When I really got serious I took Ivermectin once a week for 4 weeks. At the same time I fed a metered dosage to my Cats also. Plus the cleaning.
But the itches and creepy crawly's continued.
I went to a Dermatologist who could find nothing, but gave me a prescription for a tub of a Triamconolone cream which is something like hydrocortisone I think (could be wrong).
It helped to ease the itch-scratch cycle.
Now has been over 4 weeks and I feel like a new man.
The dermatologist is the only one of 5 or 6 doctors I saw that new what the "F" was going on.
Ivermectin and 5% cream are the most valuable tools. Plus a decent dermatologist.
You can scam 5% permitherin cream from "Canada Pharmacy" but I had to pretend I was a doctor.
Ivermectin is harder to get, but I had a relative from a Central American country bring me a TON as they eat it like aspirin there.
Good luck.
Can you please give more details on this Canada Pharmacy and how one pretends to be a doctor? I need more permethrin soon and docs are so reluctant to prescribe it.

Anyone know good places to purchase it?

Also....Ivermectin horse paste good to use? I've read it is carcinogenic {sp?}
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#576 Sep 23, 2010
This is from No More Scabies from the thread called How Do I Get Rid of Scabies Once and For All

Turpentine kills scabies. WE USED A TBLS OF TURPENTINE MIXED WITH BOTTLE OF MOISTURIZER CREAM IN MARINE CORPS. Sounds crazy i know... the medic said its a cheap Lindane. IT KILLED THEM DEAD AND ANYOTHERS FROM CLOTHING. we covered our bodies neck down...waited 3 hrs. Showered and repeated... gone for
good... research it yourself..try it after you've spent $$$ on perm and ivermectin and neem and sulfur and DE... this works where all else fails.

(I think the kind of turpentine being used here is Rectified Medicinal Turpentine Oil in the 2 ounce bottle - google that).
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#577 Sep 23, 2010
From "Extremely Frustrated"

From the Thread called "I'm Not Sure."

My family and I suffered from the same symptoms as yourself. A lot of the bumps resembled poison ivy.. so we were mis diagnosed a couple times before finally getting the permethrin cream. We used it 3 times within a month... about 8 days between each application. I washed everything in Arm and Hammer powder detergent, and actually soaked it in the washer for 15 minutes per load too, and we all would take atleast 1 bath per day in the arm and hammer detergent as well, for about a week after the 3rd treatment. Soaking in the tub and using a scrubby thing and really scrubbing your skin, and apply lots of moisturizer after w mineral oils, and natural oils. I also applied sulfer8 (from Wallmart) on any itchy spots we still had. I believe that it smothers any scabies that are still alive. Anyways... after dealing with this for a couple months.. I think its safe to say we are cured. You will still be itchy for a few weeks or longer after the treatments. Also I felt lots of crawling sensations, but they slowly went away. I think it had something to do with your body getting rid of the waste and saliva from the scabies. Hopefully some of this info will help you. Atleast try the arm and hammer baths, and wash your sheets every morning and put your pillows and blankets in the dryer for atleast a half hour. Like I said it took 3 treatments of permethrin from the doctor and then following up w the arm and hammer. Good luck to you.. I know how desperate you feel
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#578 Sep 23, 2010
From Givealittlebit, from the thread called how i got rid of them in 15 days, etc.

I will be short and sweet. I got them in May and I wasn't dx until Aug. I went to two Derm Docs until one finally said it might be scabies. I had about 15 bites on each arm. I thought they were bug bites but the itching was terrible.
I did the permithium cream and the whole family too. The next day I took all the sheets and the mattress pad and washed them with hot water and borax. All the clothes I put in garbage bags with a little borax. The laundry heaps up.
**The best thing I did was take all the extra pillows, stuffed animals, comforters, blankets and put them in my daughterís room and locked the door. I wasn't going to wash these every day. It takes 72 hours to kill the mites without a host. I didn't open this door until 2 wks after I didn't have any new bites. Gosh, this saves so much work. So put as much as you can in this room.
It is a good idea when cleaning to put long sleeve shirt, long pants, socks, and gloves on. I didn't do this the first time and got some mites on me.
1) I went out and got RAID that kills ants. It has the derivative of the permithium cream in it. I sprayed: mattress, carpets, and clothes in closets, drapes. I shut the door and got fans to blow the air out. I also sprinkled borax all over the carpet. I did this to all the rooms. I put the pillows in the dryer for 20 mins on hot. The kids went outside to play.
2) I sprinkled borax on top of the mattress and put the mattress pad on. I put borax on top of the mattress pad. I only used sheets on the bed. Everything else is in the locked room.
3) I vacuumed the carpets and steamed cleaned them. I have a hot steam cleaner. I used a solution of borax and vinegar on the hard wood floor.
I tried to vacuum every day. lol.. I have 3 small kids. but I didn't want anyone to get it.
I did the permithium cream on day 3, 7, 11. I did the whole family again on day 3. It says you don't need to but I did anyway.
4) What soothed my skin? 70% isopropyl alcohol. Get makeup pads and just keep wiping your spots. Then I would follow up with hydrogen peroxide. I would do this for 10 minutes after being woken up and I was able to get back to sleep. Also the Germx that you put on kids works too. It is all alcohol.
5) I took 2 HOT showers a day. You really want to scrub your skin. I made a mixture of sea salt, baking soda, borax and kept it in an air tight container in the shower. I used the gloves you can buy to exfoliate your skin. This is what you want to do. Rub the skin raw. Well not that much. This is what makes you itch like crazy---the scabies feces and salvia under your skin. I found my husband AXE scrub worked great and smelled well. Lather the sulfur soap all over and let it set for a bit. OR take a bath with Epson salt, borax and some hydrogen peroxide with HOT water and scrub.
Get some sulfur soap and sulfur cream you can buy it cheap on the internet. I got the 4 soaps and a cream for $21. You need 10% sulfur and Wal-Mart doesn't have it. A good idea that I came across is have a squirt bottle in the shower filled with hydrogen peroxide and borax diluted. After your HOT shower, spray all over your body. Another fad idea, don't use your towel because washing all the towels is too much, use one towel to step on and use the blow dryer to dry yourself off. This will save you so much laundry effort. Then put the sulfur cream all over your body, feet, and hands. I just wore bra and panties to bed. Ok. I got kids! All clothes go in the garbage bag. In fact, everyone's clothes go in the garbage bag.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#579 Sep 23, 2010
From 'givealittlebit' from the thread how i got rid of them in 15 days, etc.
(continued from above post)
PART 2
When you do not see any new more red spots, you got them, but watch out. The eggs hatch every 3 or 4 days and you have about 10 females with different cycles. Until you get them on the same cycle, I found I was itchy when I put the permithium cream on until the next day. So... when you don't see any for 5 days, then you know you are in the POST Scabies ITCH PHASE. I didn't itch at all on day 2 and on day 3 back to itching like crazy. I think the sulfur cream really helps even though you will itch through it. Coat the sulfur cream all over really well, nice and thick. You will feel itchy with the sulfur, but it gets better over time as you slowly kill them. Thank goodness that 90% of the eggs don't hatch otherwise we would be crying. I changed all the sheets every day. You can also put them in the dryer for 20 mins with the pillows instead of washing. You can spray RAID in the dryer for extra measure if you donít want to wash every day. This is why I only put sheets and nothing else on the bed, doing clothes laundry was enough work. About every 2 to 3 days, I threw borax on all the carpets and let sit overnight. Don't worry too much about keeping up with the laundry. Although, I had my husband take it to the laundry mat to get it done a couple of times. Just make sure everything is in garbage bags.
NO DOUBT this is the most stressful situation I have been in.
GOOD TIPS: DO not eat any sugar. It seems they love sugar. Good diet plan eh. I found they didn't like orange and used soaps with orange scent. I even went to the Vitamin Shoppe and got a Parasite cleanse to take. Maybe this helped.
THE BAD NEWS: Supposedly, you can itch up to 2 years. I know are they kidding me!!!. It is because of the feces and salvia that cause your body to have an allergic reaction that are burrowed under your skin. I have open sores from still itching. What helps is to ask your doc to be put on Prednisone for about 16 days or so. It really does help you not to itch until you get down to taking one pill... sob!! But it is a nice relief. I also wiped my sores with the 70% alcohol at night and rinse it with H202. This is the only solution that actually made the itching go away. I would wipe until I didn't itch anymore. You can see the dirt or their feces come off on the pad. Yuck. I used bacitracin cream over all the sores to prevent infection at night. Keep scrubbing with something not as harsh. You want to exfoliate until your skin is brand new which could be 2 months away.
TIP: You got to clean your computer every day before you use it. I would get a Q-tip or a makeup pad and clean it with alcohol. I also had right next to me the kid's GermX alcohol that I kept putting on me when I felt like I had to itch. This helps. I really believed the RAID really helped. I did this the day I was going to do the permithium cream on me. I tried to add all tips I could. I know this is the worst thing to have. Try to be brave and you have to do the stuff otherwise, they will not leave. I kept up with it and this is why they left in 15 days. I also steamed cleaned our couch. ALSO try to sit in the same place like your kitchen chair and clean everyday with bleach. I didn't sit on any couches. Praying for your success!
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#580 Sep 23, 2010
oops, i messed up. this is PART ONE FROM ABOVE
from 'givealittlebit'.

I will be short and sweet. I got them in May and I wasn't dx until Aug. I went to two Derm Docs until one finally said it might be scabies. I had about 15 bites on each arm. I thought they were bug bites but the itching was terrible.
I did the permithium cream and the whole family too. The next day I took all the sheets and the mattress pad and washed them with hot water and borax. All the clothes I put in garbage bags with a little borax. The laundry heaps up.
**The best thing I did was take all the extra pillows, stuffed animals, comforters, blankets and put them in my daughterís room and locked the door. I wasn't going to wash these every day. It takes 72 hours to kill the mites without a host. I didn't open this door until 2 wks after I didn't have any new bites. Gosh, this saves so much work. So put as much as you can in this room.
It is a good idea when cleaning to put long sleeve shirt, long pants, socks, and gloves on. I didn't do this the first time and got some mites on me.
1) I went out and got RAID that kills ants. It has the derivative of the permithium cream in it. I sprayed: mattress, carpets, and clothes in closets, drapes. I shut the door and got fans to blow the air out. I also sprinkled borax all over the carpet. I did this to all the rooms. I put the pillows in the dryer for 20 mins on hot. The kids went outside to play.
2) I sprinkled borax on top of the mattress and put the mattress pad on. I put borax on top of the mattress pad. I only used sheets on the bed. Everything else is in the locked room.
3) I vacuumed the carpets and steamed cleaned them. I have a hot steam cleaner. I used a solution of borax and vinegar on the hard wood floor.
I tried to vacuum every day. lol.. I have 3 small kids. but I didn't want anyone to get it.
I did the permithium cream on day 3, 7, 11. I did the whole family again on day 3. It says you don't need to but I did anyway.
4) What soothed my skin? 70% isopropyl alcohol. Get makeup pads and just keep wiping your spots. Then I would follow up with hydrogen peroxide. I would do this for 10 minutes after being woken up and I was able to get back to sleep. Also the Germx that you put on kids works too. It is all alcohol.
5) I took 2 HOT showers a day. You really want to scrub your skin. I made a mixture of sea salt, baking soda, borax and kept it in an air tight container in the shower. I used the gloves you can buy to exfoliate your skin. This is what you want to do. Rub the skin raw. Well not that much. This is what makes you itch like crazy---the scabies feces and salvia under your skin. I found my husband AXE scrub worked great and smelled well. Lather the sulfur soap all over and let it set for a bit. OR take a bath with Epson salt, borax and some hydrogen peroxide with HOT water and scrub.
Get some sulfur soap and sulfur cream you can buy it cheap on the internet. I got the 4 soaps and a cream for $21. You need 10% sulfur and Wal-Mart doesn't have it. A good idea that I came across is have a squirt bottle in the shower filled with hydrogen peroxide and borax diluted. After your HOT shower, spray all over your body. Another fad idea, don't use your towel because washing all the towels is too much, use one towel to step on and use the blow dryer to dry yourself off. This will save you so much laundry effort. Then put the sulfur cream all over your body, feet, and hands. I just wore bra and panties to bed. Ok. I got kids! All clothes go in the garbage bag. In fact, everyone's clothes go in the garbage bag.
OVER IT

United States

#581 Sep 23, 2010
Aaron wrote:
This is from No More Scabies from the thread called How Do I Get Rid of Scabies Once and For All
Turpentine kills scabies. WE USED A TBLS OF TURPENTINE MIXED WITH BOTTLE OF MOISTURIZER CREAM IN MARINE CORPS. Sounds crazy i know... the medic said its a cheap Lindane. IT KILLED THEM DEAD AND ANYOTHERS FROM CLOTHING. we covered our bodies neck down...waited 3 hrs. Showered and repeated... gone for
good... research it yourself..try it after you've spent $$$ on perm and ivermectin and neem and sulfur and DE... this works where all else fails.
(I think the kind of turpentine being used here is Rectified Medicinal Turpentine Oil in the 2 ounce bottle - google that).
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I believe it will rectify scabies problems, when you use rectified oil of turpentine. Have fun.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#582 Sep 27, 2010
This information is from Itchygirl's Thread

Hello all,
I was a frequent poster on this forum for quite some time, but it got pretty contentious so I quit posting last spring. I had a chance to look at the forum now that my kids are back in school and see that a lot of the same questions are coming up. I tried many things to get rid of mites in my year+ mitemare, and I would like to share my experiences. Please note that this is not advice, just an account of what I did. It is, in particular, NOT medical, veterinary, or pest control advice. I am not qualified in any of these areas. I am also not interested in debating my methods, I am just sharing my story.

First a little background: In October of 2008 my family, which at the time consisted of myself, my husband, 4our kids, 4 big dogs, 2 cats and a parrot, moved into a 3,500sq. ft. house in the Midwest. The house is about 60 years old and has wonderful mature trees around it with lots of wildlife. The house and yard were very clean and well kept, having belonged to a pair of 'snowbirds' who had maid and yard service for the property.

Shortly after moving in, two of my kids and myself became itchy and developed rashes. My husband and the other two kids were unaffected. We went to the doctor and were diagnosed with scabies. Several months and two doctors later, my kids were fine, but I was getting worse and worse. I had continual crawly feelings, with lots of biting sensations at night, especially on my scalp. The rash had gone away, but was replaced by thousands of very tiny pinprick marks. I had taken to (not) sleeping alone on a plastic covered mattress and limiting contact with my husband and children. I spent every night covered in sulfur and Eucarin cream, and was ruining all of our clothes by soaking them in scalding water, borax and ammonia. I kept my laundry separate and wiped everything that I touched with alcohol or bleach. All of my animals were on frontline, which is supposed to work for mites. But still I wasn't getting better, I was functioning on 4 hours or less of sleep a night, and nobody seemed to be able to help. Over the next several months I consulted several doctors, pest control experts and veterinarians, to no avail.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#583 Sep 27, 2010
Continued From Itchygirl's Thread

This continued until June with no relief in sight. My dermatologist was at a loss, and diagnosed resistant scabies. She gave me many doses of perm, which I used on my whole family. It worked to some extent while I had it on, but seemed to offer no permanent solution. My family was fine throughout this ordeal, so I decided to quit poisoning them, and just continue my policy of limited physical contact; hard to do with young kids. I asked my derm for Eurax lotion which I read about. It also worked while I had it on, and was much less toxic, so I slept with it nightly.(the price of this lotion has since gone up so high in the US that it's no longer feasible for most of us to use it regularly, even with insurance). I also tried many of the remedies posted on this forum as well as birdmites.org .

In June, my husband had a business trip out west, near where my sister and her family live. He planned on staying an extra day to see some friends, so my sister invited him to stay at her house and have dinner with her family. He dosed himself with perm a week before leaving, then again the night before. We had no physical contact during that time. I was handling all laundry with rubber gloves by that point, and the suitcase he used had been unused for many months. All of his personal items were soaked in hot water, bleach, etc. He had experienced no crawlies or itching, this was just a precaution. But three days after he returned home, my sister called freaking out. She, too, began getting biting sensations and pinprick marks. In the coming weeks she developed much the same symptoms as I had. And her family was also largely unaffected. She had had scabies as a teen, and she told me that it did not feel like scabies. She had never felt the hard bites with scabies, just intense itching.
Soon our cats (my sisterís as well as mine) began to develop symptoms that included head shaking, foot chewing and twitchy skin. Of my two, one was much worse than the other. She developed scabs over her eyes after a while, and her skin twitched almost continuously. She also had quite a bit of dandruff. Of course she quit twitching at the vetís when she was under stress. My vet said that since there was no hair loss, my animals didnít have mange, and were fine. I knew that they werenít: I woke up one night with intense biting and pinpricks on one foot and leg. When I looked down, I realized that the worst cat had snuck into my room and was laying on the blanket, right on top of where I was getting bit.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#584 Sep 27, 2010
Continued from Itchygirl's thread
#3
My parrot began squawking and plucking his feathers, which he had never done in the 18 years that I had him. He had chronic respiratory problems, and eventually died from them. But I also believe that he had a mite infestation before he went.
My dogs never showed any signs of mites, but I had one in particular that always made me feel crawly when she rubbed against me. I also noticed that I got the worst pinpricks where the animals touched me frequently; my upper arms from holding the cats and my legs to mid thigh from the dogs leaning on me.
After my sister got mites from us, we realized that they were not human scabies, since there was no contact between her and my husband, and we had taken extraordinary precautions against spreading scabies. We later figured out that the closet that the suitcase came out of was infested, and that the mites we had were much hardier and more difficult to kill.
In some ways I was happy to realize that they were environmental mites, rather than a mutant form of human scabies. Now I had something that I could fight. After months of fighting them on my skin, bedding and clothing with no real advances, I was beginning to lose hope that I would ever be free. And the fact that they were invisible, and I felt like I couldnít talk to anyone about them, made me feel very isolated. Fortunately my husband believed me and stood beside me, which doesnít seem to be too common with this crap.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#585 Sep 27, 2010
Continued from Itchygirl's Thread
#4
The way I got rid of them was by fighting them on all fronts, full tilt, for months. Difficult to do with all of the baggage I have, but we have been mite free since last winter. If I had known at the beginning some of the things I know now, it would have been much faster.

Here are the things that worked for me. These methods were found after much trial and error. Many came from posters on this site or on birdmites.org , and some came from conversations with my sister and other mite sufferers.

Laundry- Arm and Hammer Powder, scented or unscented. Or I added Arm and Hammer washing soda to my detergent. Either one works. I use it in a front loader with no ill effects. I am still using it to this day. All contain sodium carbonate. That seems to be the magic ingredient. Do not use A& H liquid. It doesnít have sodium carbonate. A & H worked better for me than ammonia, borax, microwaving, boiling, hot water, etc. etc. Soda ash, used for pools, is also composed of sodium carbonate. I bought some but never tried it. I kept dirty clothes in sealed bags and tried not to touch them. Added a Hot Shot No pest strip (more about this later).

Environment- Cyonara mixed with an IGR is my poison of choice. My sister used Tempo and an IGR. Both available from doyourownpestcontrol. Com . Expensive, but a little goes a long way. The IGR is important; it cuts down on their ability to breed. A garden sprayer worked nicely for applying this. I was careful to cover up, and I started wearing safety glasses when spraying overhead after getting a drop in my eyes. During the worst of it I sprayed every three days, which is far more often than I was supposed to. When I needed something in a hurry I used Hot Shot Ant and Roach with Lambda-cyalothrin (not sure on spelling). It was the first ting I found that would clear my car, but it gives me headaches, so I kept looking. There are lots of different hot shot formulations, so I was careful to check labels. Many other home use type pesticides are pretty useless including roach and flea bombs
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#586 Sep 27, 2010
Continued from Itchygirl's Thread
#5
Another thing I used liberally was Roach Prufe boric acid. I have found Roach prufe to be superior to other brands. It is finer and sticks better. I used a rose duster and hit all of my storage spaces, as well as walls with it. You really canít see it if it is puffed on painted walls. I tossed it through a fan into my attic. I worked it down into my carpets. I originally used it in my hair on my skin as well as in my bed as it was non stinky and seemed to work.(I was soooo desperate for relief). I was fine for a couple of months, then began having pain in my feet and legs in the morning. I thought I was developing arthritis, but then I realized that it was related to how much exposure I had to boric acid that day. Iím pretty sure I was pretty close to poisoning myself. Once I laid off on the body treatments the Ďarthritisí cleared up and I had no lasting effects. No one else was affected by the boric acid.

My third big gun was Hot Shot No Pest Strips. These are not flypaper strips or mothballs. They contain dichlorvos, which is released into the air. They were pulled off of the market for reevaluation by the EPA and were just cleared again when I was towards the end of my mite fight. If they had been there sooner it probably wouldnít have taken me a so long. I used them in storage spaces, attic space, closets, and my laundry room. I cleared my infested bed during the day by standing one up on top for the bedding and covering the bed with a large plastic drop cloth. I did the same with an infested dresser, and kept one in a plastic bag to which I added my jammies in the morning and my shoes and jacket when I came home. It cleared them for use by the time I pulled them out. I was careful to air everything out before wearing/using/sleeping in. A no pest strip in a garbage bag full of dirty clothes would clear it in about 2-3 days. Ditto for comforters and pillows. I left infested upholstered furniture for about 7 days under a plastic sheet. I kept one in my car every night, and aired it before driving. I also hung one in over my dogs sleeping area. You are not supposed to use them around animals, but dichlorvos has been used to control mites in kennels and in farm applications, and flea collars for years, so I figured it was pretty safe. I still use them in my storage spaces. I mark the date on them with sharpies as they only last four months. There are warnings on the back that advise limited exposure.

Food grade diatomaceous earth in small amounts also has some limited usefulness. I used it with abandon at first and wound up with a chronic cough and burnt up electronics, but still had bugs. I learned to use a very small amount in my bed, away from my face to catch any stray buggies that wandered across the sheets. I tried it on my skin mixed with oil (I used coconut) and it didnít do anything for me. I also used it in a shaker on my cats. They donít mind it as much as chemicals, and it helps. Again, away from their faces. I do not think that it is a cure in and of itself, at least in my case.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#587 Sep 27, 2010
Continued from Itchygirl's Thread
#6
Bedding- I sealed my mattresses and pillows in plastic. I put away my comforters, as the bugs seem to really like breeding in fiberfill. I washed my sheets and sprayed my mattress cover with Windex every night at first, then every three days once I got some control. Once again washed in Arm and Hammer. Once I discovered the no pest strip thing I cut back to my normal washing schedule.

Pets-I took a couple of my animals to Dr. Alice Jeromin after reading some of her articles and getting a recommendation from a friend. She is an excellent veterinary dermatologist with a three month waiting list for new patients. She did numerous scrapes on both pets over about an hour, but was unable to find a mite. She said that that was not unusual. She diagnosed probable cheylatiella and had me put all of them on heavy doses of interceptor since I had tried most of the topical stuff, including revolution and frontline, with no luck. I did that for three weeks. It seemed to clear them, but within a few days of completing the treatment it came back. I got another supply, and did another three weeks. Once again it came back. The three week dosage ran $350 for my animals (that was at Dr. Jerominís cost Ė she did not mark up the meds), and I couldnít afford to continue this treatment, even if the doc would agree to another round. So I had to find an alternative.

I began researching ivermectin as a remedy for my animals. I had been using it on myself, but was afraid to try it on my animals after a toxic reaction in one of my cats early on. I had followed the Merck veterinary manual dosage instructions for cats and put my little old lady in the hospital for four days. Not good. I eventually found dosage instructions that worked on cats without killing them on the Pandecats site. I dosed every three days in an ear and it worked well. I did work up to that gradually, just in case. I put my dogs on a mange regimen, which consists of daily ivermectin dosages. I gave it to them orally on a piece of bread, which they snarfed. I have two herding dogs, so I did a mail in genetic test for ivermectin sensitivity before doing this. Several breeds of dogs, including many herding dogs, can carry a genetic defect, which causes ivermectin to be fatal to them. My dogs are now all on Promeris, which seems to work. One of them picks up mites in the yard regularly if she is not treated with something at all times. There are some reports of toxic reactions to Promeris, but Iíve had no problems. Just in case, I always dose with new products on a weekday during my vetís regular hours.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#588 Sep 27, 2010
Continued from Itchygirls Thread
#7
My body- I ordered and tried medicine from around the world, and it turns out that the things that worked best for me were easily available at my local farm supply. My best topical was Benzyl Benzoate. After ordering a bottle of Benzemul from Australia, I discovered that bb can be found here in a very similar concentration in Sardex Mange Spray. Convenient spray form, too. I used it a lot at night. It builds up in your jammies and works as a repellant, too. It also repels humans-it is pretty stinky. Limited usefulness on dogs due to their fur, and canít be used on cats.

Another stinky thing that worked for me is sublimed sulfur and Eucarin. This is very nontoxic, but it will trash your skin and ruin your clothes. It stains and the smell does NOT come out of synthetic fleece, no matter how many times you wash it. I kept a container of baking soda and water along with a rag to neutralize it when I rubbed my eyes. Stops the burn immediately. I did about a 25% concentration of sulfur to cream. This is very heavy. Most people do 10%. I tried it in lotion, but the heavy cream in a jar worked better. I used generic Eucarin from Wal-Mart. All in all, I liked BB better.
I washed in unscented Arm and Hammer. I would fold a small scoop into the center of a washcloth and scrub with it in the shower. I would also wash my one child in it when he got occasional itchies. I really didnít treat my other children past the initial perm treatments; the bugs didnít seem to bother them.

My husband would occasionally get crawlies from playing with the dogs or cats, but the mites didnít really like him. When they did get on him they would usually go for his head or body hair. If I were near they would abandon him for me. He would spray himself with Windex before showering and no more mites.
Aaron

Hollywood, FL

#589 Sep 27, 2010
Continued From Itchygirl's Thread
#8
Hair- My head was a real problem spot for me. I developed crusty spots on my scalp that topicals seemed to have a hard time penetrating. The itching and crawling in these spots was maddening. I used 45% perm dog flea spot on for crusty spots on my head. Very careful to use only a small amount on the worst spots or it gave me headaches. Bought it from the dollar store. Sergeants, I think. I was careful to keep it away from the cats as it is very toxic to them. I tried lots of flea shampoos as well as benzyl peroxide pet shampoo with minimal results. BB also worked in my hair but was stinky. During the day I found that products with dimethicone helped. It is not as good as some of the stinky stuff, but it didnít make me smell like a freak. One of the posters on here discovered Biosilk, but it was pricy and I didnít like the scent. Wal-Mart has FX Silk Drops hair serum- much the same, lighter scent and much cheaper. I also used it on my skin. Lice free and some personal lubricants also contain dimethicone in sufficient amounts. There are some skin protectant lotions that have it, but I think that the concentration isnít high enough. They didnít work for me. My sister used Cornhuskers lotion in her hair. She said that it dried a little crunchy but looked fine for work. I shampooed with Head and Shoulders extra strength or Nizoral.

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