I am Cured
noordinaryspider

San Francisco, CA

#464 Mar 24, 2009
No new rashes for weeks. No itching.I'm sleeping well, and my skin is healing so I declare myself cured even though I'm still slurping up the body butter and dealing with scars and dry skin.

My child brought scabies home from public school. I was terrified that it would be as resistant to the permethrin as head lice are, or that it would turn out to be morgellans, bird mites, or something far worse. He also infected his baby brother, older sister, and both of my older children's partners were affected.

My regime was a single treatment of Permethrin followed 3 days later by head-to-toe with 2.5% sulfur for both me and the baby and then another 3 day head-to-toe treatment with sulfur (at 10%, approximately 5%, and 2.5%, respectively, because of the difficulty in finding sulfur)just for me because the baby didn't need it.

The older children did three perm treatments apiece and took longer to clear up. dd didn't consider herself cured until she had also done a sulfur treatment, but if you've had this [email protected] for any amount of time, you know what it does to your head and how hard it is to stop treating and let your skin heal.
nan

Saint Paul, MN

#465 Mar 26, 2009
According to Cedarcide products (cedar oil) this mite or whatever is a weaponized thing from Iraq, etc. and the military researched and came up w/this Cedarcide product you can put on skin, bomb or fog says kills eggs and insects even termites...only thing they found that could kill these...spread the word...my mom just ordered some cause they're driving her batty... Look up Morgellons online to see if this is what you have...
...what you have is Morgellons... search it online, much info out there now. If you are in the early stages of this you can probably get rid of it, it consists of fungus, worms, bugs and all sorts of sordid things in your skin that go to deeper levels over time...even in blood and organs. Recommend the following, because most doctors will look at you and say you are crazy and try to give you psychotrophic drugs...seems to be part of this scam is to get evermore people on those drugs that make people nuttier than they already are (did you know that people on Prozac are way more likely to commit suicide than on any other drug like 16x more likely!).
These are some things that help fight this thing...trust me this is not a superficial skin disease it goes throughout your body so get it early...
Cats Claw TOA-free (not the regular..its ok if can't find the TOA-free but this one is 10,000x stronger than the regular cats claw...people have called this the best silver bullet for this sick disease they have found. 12 days on 12 days off
Ionic Colloidal Silver - this puts oxygen in the blood which kills pathogens...stronger than antibiotics, antifungal/viral/ bacterial/ parasitic...kills 650 different pathogens whereas most antibiotics kill 6-12...great to keep you in health even when your body is under attack. Take as much as you need a capful 3-4x day perhaps
Garlic...keeps them out of your inner body...they don't like it and don't grow as much of a resistance to it... garlic is fantastic for just about everything, heart, cholesterol,parasites, antifungal, antibacterial, antiparasitical, etc...
Get an antiparasite natural med at health food store...w/wormwood, black walnut (green hull) and clove...kills most parasites.
Something I tried recently that had more of an impact than I expected was green tea/goji tea with oolong tea (kills protazoas and who knows...seemed to stop them)
There is said to be an agrobacterium involved (this thing is so convoluted it seems to be weaponized biowarfare type craziness... homeopathic Belladonna may fight this
Homeopathy has helped me a lot, Silica clears things out of the skin so will agitate and fight the skin buggers...Nat Phos kills worms because changes the ph in the blood and flesh. Sulphur 6c may rid these things too...wish I'd tried earlier on. Calc Carb is another one for this type of thing...a homeopath can give you higher more powerful strengths.
Also take 1/4 tsp baking soda in water 2x per day...guess what an oncologist studied cancer and has revealed that cancer is a fungal infection and is curing seriously ill cancer patients w/success w/mere baking soda...the AMA hates him and he is under attack for trying to help you to be healthy and stop supporting their multi-billion $$$ industry.
Baths in epsom salt or cheap table salt (3/$1 at Walmart) w/ hydrogen peroxide ($1 at Walmart) w/some aromatherapy (eucalyptus, lavendar, lemon oil, there are many that might help)
Ginger tea is said to kill worm eggs...
So this thing is: mites, protazoa, amoeba, worms, agrobacterium and god only knows what...good luck...this is from 2 years of research...
Krazy in Kentucky wrote:
I have been dealing with this for 7-8 months and can't seem to get rid of it. The strange thing is that I have only given it to one person. I can't seem to get it to go away...but my roommate hasn't gotten it and we share a washer and dryer...should i rip out the carpet and get a new mattress?
has bug bombing a residence helped anyone?
Phoenix62

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#467 Apr 14, 2009
Like many, I've wrestled with scabies; the disappointment, the depair and the shame. For months I tried everything I could think of and had been suggested on forums. Some ideas really sucked and I couldn't comply. Other ideas even made things worse.

Ok, after much trial and error, I hit on something that has been very encouraging. It's a recipe I came up with to be effective, allow me to comply, and is not offensive to me or others near me...plus, treatment invisibility is easy.

Here's what I did:

I acquired sulfer, Lubriderm Advanced Therapy, rubbing alcohol.

Empty the Lubriderm by about 35% and store to reintroduce into formula later.

Grind sulfer with coffee grinder designed for making espresso. This grinder makes a very fine powder of the sulfer. Be sure to grind very well as there may remain some relatively large pieces. Gring and regrind until it's like baby powder.

Now introduce the sulfer powder into the Lubriderm bottle making a paper funnel from slick magazine paper. The amount of sulfer should equal 25-30% of Lubriderm bottle capacity.

Next, top off the bottle with rubbing alcohol.

Shake contents well. The mixture should have a slightly watery consistency (I found this good for skin distribution and absorption.)

I applied the mixture every night after a shower when I was dry. EVERYWHERE!

I found during previous attempts to treat scabies that they will take refuge on my scalp contrary to what many preach. I realized this when I developed 2 lesions well above my hairline. As part of my treatment at night, I smooth into my hair ensuring to reach my scalp, ears, and an inch down my forehead. The only untreated part of my body was my face from just below my lower lip to 1 inch below my hairline.

I placed a towel over my pillow, put on unimportant jogging pants, t-shirt and socks. My bedding was simply a quilt folded in half and never washed.(I wanted treatment residue to build up in the quilt and towel on pillow. I had had enough of the daily laundering of everything. When I kept everything the same I felt certain I was creating an environment uninhabitable to scabies.(Scabies need the warmth, food and moisture of a host to survive...2 days off the host and they're toast).

Currently I have no signs off scabies and continue the treatment as I have no ill effects from doing so. I'm going to be absolutely certain they are eradicated. Plus, my skin looks and feels new and young. Sulfer is an important component in proteins.

Using the Lubriderm was decided because it has a caustic ingredient for exfoliating the skin and I felt this would improve sulfer penetration into the depths where scabies live. Also, lotion completely masked the sulfer smell. Rubbing alcohol is used to thin the mixture and enter hair follicles, but as important, provide extra killing to surface scabies. The alcohol also causes the mixture to take on a better lay and adherence with the skin.

I believe this is everything and I only want to relay "My" experience and don't endorse or encourage anyone to try this. Good luck with the scabies ya'll!
michaels_todd

Oshkosh, WI

#468 Apr 14, 2009
where did you get the sulfur from?
Sam

Roseville, CA

#469 Apr 14, 2009
responding to nan who advised colloidal silver. This is HIGHLY TOXIC and carries many warnings:

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69189.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#470 Apr 15, 2009
michaels_todd wrote:
where did you get the sulfur from?
you can buy the very fine powdered sublimed sulfur from americarx.com . just type in their search engine, sulfur and some sulfur products should come up. I have also bought sublimed sulfur off of Ebay.
buggie

United States

#471 May 15, 2009
from 2Scratch wrote:
repost of info from Scratch's main man derm. If you don't read anything else in this forum, READ THIS. She and her family are cured.
My good deed for the day....this was on like page 203...
I may be winning a small battle in the war with scabies. I took 12mg iver on Friday. Youngest broke out on Saturday....Hubby woke up itching and broke out slightly yesterday. I gave Hubby my second round of Iver since he works outside the home and I don't. I figured if the doctor didn't give it today, I'd just buy some off the net. He has no new bites today and the ones he had are drying up. The youngest took her first dose this afternoon. She's itchin tonight pretty good. I'm itching, but no new bites that I can tell. I've cleaned religiously and followed alot of the advice on here to the T. I put sulphur soap in every bathroom and had everyone bath with it. I also slathered everyone with the sulphur cream every night over the weekend. So far, my two oldest don't have any symptoms.
I was unsure of the iver dosage for the youngest, so I called the after hours number and the chief of staff for the Skin Care Institute I went to was the one that returned my call. He sounded 104 years old and he must have been bored to tears sitting in traffic on his cell phone because he talked FOREVER! But he said he could cure anyone of scabies if they'd listen to him, so I'll post what he told me. First he was frustrated with the physician's assistant that saw me for not treating the entire house from the start. He called in iver for my two step-kids and their Mom and Step-Dad. He did 3 weeks worth, where the guy I saw gave me 2. He wasn't a big fan of the steroid cream, but said to use it if it helped. He said back in the day one or two treatments of the cream was enough, but as you all know, they've mutated and it just doesn't do the trick most of the time....and he did say most. He told me that science says you cannot get it from your pets and they can't give it to you. However, he said 30 years of patients say that's crap and it was just my call on the dogs.
He said to definitely cover all bedding and furniture with plastic and then put a sheet over that. If your dinner table is wood, cover that too.
He was a big fan of borax in the carpet for 24 hours and do it often. He agreed with diluting it with water and spray it on the furniture as well. If you've had it for months/years. When you have been symptom free for 6 weeks....uncover one item at at time. If you get the mites back...toss that item, even if it's your sofa. After 6 weeks he advised to replace your pillows. If you can't afford to do it all at one time, then just do it as you can afford it, but keep the plastic on until you can toss it.
Science says mites will die in 3 to 7 days off of a human host. Again 30 years of patients call bullshit on that one too.[next]
I'm bumping this. Very good advice observations from an experienced doctor. Please read...part one.
buggie

Nashville, TN

#472 May 15, 2009
from 2Scratch wrote:
Ponytail holders should be in the laundry with your clothes. He said you don't have to dry clothes for hours es is your feet. It was his opinion that the cause of over half of scabies re-infestation is because of socks. If you don't have to wear them, don't. He said to use flip-flops....never walk around the house in socks. Socks are mite magnets and once they are in the sock, then they have nowhere else to go but into your feet. He said there is a reason why 75% to 80% of mites are in your hands and feet. He told me to wash my feet everytime I wash my hands if possible. When you're wiping things down with clorox wipes or something...take two out and do your feet and in between your toes. Put baby wipes by every chair you sit in and wipe your feet after you sit. Put wipes by the toilet and wipe feet when you sit there as well. Obviously he said to vacuum like crazy but never ever wear socks around the house.....always use flip-flops and rinse them off or wipe them down often. The last thing you should do before going to bed is wash your hands and wash your feet. Everywhere you stand and everything you do sends particles of anything and everything to the ground around your feet. Even if you are drying your hands from a washing....things (mites) are falling to the ground and onto your feet.
Feet, feet, feet. He could not stress it enough. Obsessivly wash your feet.
part two of bumped thread. Good advice from experiened doctor. Please read.
buggie

United States

#473 May 15, 2009
Good post nan. I just saw it. Btw people, I saw 99.9 percent msm powder in the locked section of feed store today...for horseys. 9 dollars for about 32 oz. Its sulfer and nonsmelly. Could grind it in expresso grinder if its too coarse for lotion potion. I went there to buy iver apple horse paste for me and the cat...while I wait for magicpharm shipment. I feel better since my iver doses. There's hope that the end of this 9 month nightmare is near.
Scabbed

Hopewell Junction, NY

#474 May 16, 2009
Sam wrote:
responding to nan who advised colloidal silver. This is HIGHLY TOXIC and carries many warnings:
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69189.cfm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver
What about scabies in the chairs?? I treat and everytime I sit on the computer chair I begin to feel symptoms of crawaling all over agian and I have to repeat the process.
buggie

United States

#475 May 17, 2009
Scabbed wrote:
<quoted text>
What about scabies in the chairs?? I treat and everytime I sit on the computer chair I begin to feel symptoms of crawaling all over agian and I have to repeat the process.
scabbed, read the two posts I bumped up from the doctor above, they are in quotations. A different poster said rid brand spray only no other brand works. I personally know that dumping ...pouring best yet by cedarcide onto a cloth chair works. Its nontoxic. Not spraying an infested chair but actually saturating it. Its not cheap though. I saturated my carseat and seatbelts with it. For a cheap way, mix borax and water and spray chair and then cover with plastic. Also windex kills mites. I don't sit in cloth chairs anymore. I had to use 2 cloth computer chairs at work and doused and sprayed them with generic rid spray but it didn't work at all. I wish I had known about cedarcide back then, I wouldn't have had to quit my job. Btw mites love leather and rattan chairs also. Btw we shouldn't post in the I am cured thread.
buggie

United States

#476 May 27, 2009
Recommended reading is all of progresses thread and all of the I'm cured thread.
itchygirl in oh

Youngstown, OH

#477 May 27, 2009
Scabbed, Be careful with Rid spray. I saturated my bed with it a while back, hoping to drive the beasties out of my mattress. It did drive them out of my mattress; right into my carpet! It seems that it repels them rather than kills them, which makes sense as the concentration of perm is only 1%.
adanaturkey

Puyallup, WA

#478 May 29, 2009
A big share of the mites come from you and therefore a big share of the mites are in the mattress. I covered my mattresses, boxsprings, bought a futon and covered them all in zippered vinyl, bagged everything that was matterial, got rid of any upholstered furniture, ripped out my carpets, used the cream for our body several times and the mites were almost gone.

The problem is now that I have a damn rental with carpets and I got another case of scabies, so I'm not sure how to get rid of the scabies. I know I don't need ivermectin to get rid of them when the carpets are the problem. Does anyone on this site rip out the carpets of their rental? Well, once I had carpets and Scabies and I had to hire a company to come do my carpets and the Scabies were gone the next day. That's expensive though.

adana
Been There wrote:
<quoted text>
I am considering buying plastic mattress covers but I'm not clear on why they help?
Is BB more effective than using Borax or Bleach?
buggie

United States

#479 Jun 1, 2009
Bumping thread again. The entire thread well worth the read.

Since: Jun 09

Kearny, NJ

#480 Jun 10, 2009
I am posting here because I have no new bites today and I am starting to feel the possibility of being better....( YAY!)
my 10 year old has been clean for a week
my 18 yer old has been clean for several days ( no new bites)
I started a post about Killing the eggs -- and I am re-posting it here- I think it helps..

My older son who lives in an apartment, has been using a treatment that I have just begun trying. He has had scabies symptoms for just 4 weeks ( I got it from his home and broke out first )-- but he got it really bad - and he has NO new bites now. He treated twice with PERM 5% and uses TTO daily -- but here's the thing that is working best.

In order to stop having scabies - you HAVE to stop them from reproducing. If they CAN'T LAY EGGS -- they will die out - and we all know LOT'S of ways to kill the adults. But the EGGS are a problem

He started taking NEEM LEAF capsuls - he takes 3 caps twice a day ( 6 total ) He's been dong this for 2 weeks.

The NEEM LEAF ( he's using Natures way 450mg ) is inexpensive. Here's how it works:

Neem makes it impossible for the adults to conceive or lay eggs -- It DISRUPTS THEIR REPRODUCTIVE CYCLE.

It is cumulative and takes time to build up in your blood stream so you must take them every day.

DO NOT TAKE THIS IF YOU ARE PREGNANT OR NURSING and DO NOT GIVE THIS TO CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 14.

This is a sure thing that works with NO side effects! AND it is good or your skin and your health.

It takes a couple of weeks to stop them from reproducing.

Meanwhile -- keep treating your environment and yourself topically to kill adults and stay comfortable.

I am using NEEM Shampoo, body soap, and conditioner - I just leave it in and let it dry.

I only have a few bites left and I am feeling less and less activity.

I will describe my other treatment hints in another post.

I hope this helps someone... this has been such a painful, difficult and expensive torturous lesson.

Cindy
The Mitey Warrior

PS- I am guessing that you can extend the power and saturation of the Neem Leaf -- like one poster did with IVERMECTIN - he took it with a fatty meal and then drank lots of grapefruit juice.... that kept it active in his body longer-- I believe the same will hold true for the Neem Leaf.

Since: Jun 09

Kearny, NJ

#481 Jun 10, 2009
Fed Up wrote:
What kind and how much ivermectin did you give your cat's?
Ivermectin does not kill the eggs--
Neem Leaf capsuls- 6 to 8 daily of 450 mg stop the scabies from being able to lay eggs ( so when you kill the adults - YOU ARE DONE )-- so you can kill the adults off topicly with TTO, sulfer or what ever else you are using and stop the survivors from continuing to lay eggs...

Cindy The Mitey Warrior
who has NO NEW BITES TODAY!
storm93

Endicott, WA

#483 Jul 1, 2009
Exactly what kind of sulfur did you use? I recently bought some MSM powdered sulfer at a health food store and it is white and does not smell. I am wondering if this is the best kind and if it will work?
Phoenix62 wrote:
Like many, I've wrestled with scabies; the disappointment, the depair and the shame. For months I tried everything I could think of and had been suggested on forums. Some ideas really sucked and I couldn't comply. Other ideas even made things worse.
Ok, after much trial and error, I hit on something that has been very encouraging. It's a recipe I came up with to be effective, allow me to comply, and is not offensive to me or others near me...plus, treatment invisibility is easy.
Here's what I did:
I acquired sulfer, Lubriderm Advanced Therapy, rubbing alcohol.
Empty the Lubriderm by about 35% and store to reintroduce into formula later.
Grind sulfer with coffee grinder designed for making espresso. This grinder makes a very fine powder of the sulfer. Be sure to grind very well as there may remain some relatively large pieces. Gring and regrind until it's like baby powder.
Now introduce the sulfer powder into the Lubriderm bottle making a paper funnel from slick magazine paper. The amount of sulfer should equal 25-30% of Lubriderm bottle capacity.
Next, top off the bottle with rubbing alcohol.
Shake contents well. The mixture should have a slightly watery consistency (I found this good for skin distribution and absorption.)
I applied the mixture every night after a shower when I was dry. EVERYWHERE!
I found during previous attempts to treat scabies that they will take refuge on my scalp contrary to what many preach. I realized this when I developed 2 lesions well above my hairline. As part of my treatment at night, I smooth into my hair ensuring to reach my scalp, ears, and an inch down my forehead. The only untreated part of my body was my face from just below my lower lip to 1 inch below my hairline.
I placed a towel over my pillow, put on unimportant jogging pants, t-shirt and socks. My bedding was simply a quilt folded in half and never washed.(I wanted treatment residue to build up in the quilt and towel on pillow. I had had enough of the daily laundering of everything. When I kept everything the same I felt certain I was creating an environment uninhabitable to scabies.(Scabies need the warmth, food and moisture of a host to survive...2 days off the host and they're toast).
Currently I have no signs off scabies and continue the treatment as I have no ill effects from doing so. I'm going to be absolutely certain they are eradicated. Plus, my skin looks and feels new and young. Sulfer is an important component in proteins.
Using the Lubriderm was decided because it has a caustic ingredient for exfoliating the skin and I felt this would improve sulfer penetration into the depths where scabies live. Also, lotion completely masked the sulfer smell. Rubbing alcohol is used to thin the mixture and enter hair follicles, but as important, provide extra killing to surface scabies. The alcohol also causes the mixture to take on a better lay and adherence with the skin.
I believe this is everything and I only want to relay "My" experience and don't endorse or encourage anyone to try this. Good luck with the scabies ya'll!

Since: Jun 09

Kearny, NJ

#484 Jul 2, 2009
storm93 wrote:
Exactly what kind of sulfur did you use? I recently bought some MSM powdered sulfer at a health food store and it is white and does not smell. I am wondering if this is the best kind and if it will work?
<quoted text>
I am on my second week of sulfur treatment -- My 2 sons are completely clear and I only have activity in my ears ( I wasn't treating inside there-- so please treat EVERYWHERE except your eyes )

I bought "Flowers of Sulfur" which is a mineral as opposed to MSM which is derived from plants.

I figured that it costs me about $2.50 per treatment ( and I'm treating for 30 days ) so about $75 total ( after spending over $3,000 trying to figure out what works!)

Get sulfur on line-- I used Pennherbs.com fast and cheap $9.50 per 16oz bag.

I used the Lubriderm method - feels better than Vasoline

I tried 30%, 20% and 10% sulfur solutions-
30 was way too strong - I made 20 and 10% and use them on different parts of my body.

any other questions I'd be happy to answer.

Cindy
Mitey Warrior
Joe

Hollywood, FL

#485 Jul 2, 2009
storm93 wrote:
Exactly what kind of sulfur did you use? I recently bought some MSM powdered sulfer at a health food store and it is white and does not smell. I am wondering if this is the best kind and if it will work?
<quoted text>
Hi Storm 93: I have heard that MSM contains 35% sulfur. It's best to use the pure sublimed sulphur. You can buy this from americarx dot com. Or try Ebay. Or you can do an internet search to see if you can come up with a place that sells it. It is a very fine powder.

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