scabies, psoriasis, any skin conditio...

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bran0406

London, KY

#2 Jan 17, 2014
it has been a miracle discovery! if you have been suffering w scabies, or any skin condition, try doing dawn bath for just a week... if it doesn't cure whatever it is you have going on, what have you lost? regardless of how long you have had it! 7 months or 7 years! drs are so wrong about scabies!
bran0406

London, KY

#3 Jan 17, 2014
and don't stop if it seems to be the dawn irritating your skin! 2nd day it looked almost like we was having an allergic reaction to dawn, and on 4th day, today, i wanted to go dance in the street! this is not a sales pitch, any type of advertisement, or whatever.. try it, or don't.. you would just be out a couple of dollars if it doesn't work.. i have easily spent over a hundred dollars and goodness knows, too many hours to count cleaning! garbage bags, so many sprays, creams, oils, borax, space saver bags to try n suffocate them... and this whole time could of had it cleared within a week by just washing our bodies with dawn!!
bran0406

London, KY

#4 Jan 17, 2014
no joke, if it wasn't for us having a 10 month old baby, we wouldn't even of known we had it for God only knows how long.. 8 months we have had it.. there was not this crazy itch, or really even any red spots.. drs didn't think that was what we had! my skin was pretty clear till i started using the dawn.. but it was only killing them n my skin was reacting because they were coming out!
Janadel

Spring Valley, CA

#5 Jan 19, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
no joke, if it wasn't for us having a 10 month old baby, we wouldn't even of known we had it for God only knows how long.. 8 months we have had it.. there was not this crazy itch, or really even any red spots.. drs didn't think that was what we had! my skin was pretty clear till i started using the dawn.. but it was only killing them n my skin was reacting because they were coming out!
Thanks for that idea. Even though I think I'm doing well and getting rid of them, they are not yet gone totally, so I'm going to get some Dawn and try later this week if there is no further improvement. Right now I'm using Selsun Blue, clinical strength, and am not having any bad side effects. What I'd like to know is did you apply anything to your skin before your bath? How hot was your bath water? How long did you soak? Did you also dunk your head under water to get your hair too? After the bath did you shower off or just pat dry? Did you use any cream or oil after the bath? Also are you taking anything internally, like Garlic, Neem oil, and I've read about a number of other things that have helped, but I've not tried any of those...have you? Do you stay away from any foods like sugar? I have very sensitive skin and I'm gluten intolerant, so that complicates my immune system. So I gather from much reading that I'm more sustable to these mites. Right now I'm taking Turmeric and garlic and a number of other things for various immune problems, but nothing directly for this problem, other than the external use of Selsun Blue and Argan oil after my shower, and the usual, of changing to clean bedding and cloths daily and spraying the area I sleep in and using plastic over everything I sit or lay on and washing cloths & bedding with borax, but I'm absolutely open to any suggestions...as everyone on here knows...this is really terrible to deal with and I'm not a young woman!.. Any suggestions?. Thanks again
bran0406

London, KY

#6 Jan 19, 2014
not taking anything else internally, although i do cook a lot w garlic.. for everyone in the house except the baby, we get the water as hot as we can stand it, n put a generous amount in the water, then we have been washing head to toe w it.. i put conditioner in our hair after rinsing the dawn out, n we take shower to rinse good afterwards n thats when we rinse conditioner out.. we use a lot of it to wash our body, n wash rag to scrub pretty good. we put regular lotion on afterwards cause the dawn does dry out ur skin. i have been using the black light method to check, n before we started using dawn we were covered in tiny white dots, n when i checked this morning after my bath there was just a few.. so we are going to continue. the selsen blue is good idea too, just more expensive. do you know how to check ur body with a black light?
Janadel

Spring Valley, CA

#7 Jan 19, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
not taking anything else internally, although i do cook a lot w garlic.. for everyone in the house except the baby, we get the water as hot as we can stand it, n put a generous amount in the water, then we have been washing head to toe w it.. i put conditioner in our hair after rinsing the dawn out, n we take shower to rinse good afterwards n thats when we rinse conditioner out.. we use a lot of it to wash our body, n wash rag to scrub pretty good. we put regular lotion on afterwards cause the dawn does dry out ur skin. i have been using the black light method to check, n before we started using dawn we were covered in tiny white dots, n when i checked this morning after my bath there was just a few.. so we are going to continue. the selsen blue is good idea too, just more expensive. do you know how to check ur body with a black light?
Hi, and thanks for your quick reply. No I do not know how to check with a black light. I've not read anything on how to do that. Would you please tell me in detail? Thanks again
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#8 Jan 19, 2014
u can buy a black light bulb from Walmart, and then in bathroom cover ur body w a white lotion, think any kind would work, n hold light couple inches from skin, any tiny white spots u see, take ur finger n rub it across it.. if it moves easily it is lint.. if not it is the scabies. we had it for 8 months n honestly did not know it. none of us had bad itching or n e thing! we only knew cause our 10 month old would occasionally get a couple red bumps here n there.. we got it from when my sister n her baby moved in w us, n dr diagnosed it right, she had 3 drs before tell her it was eczema. we treated, all red spots went away n we thought we were rid of them. we did crazy mad cleaning n washing too! when we used the black light we were covered head to toe! hundreds no joke! i thought it may been wrong, but we started using dawn, blue kind for us, n e dawn may work, idk, but i know blue does.. 2nd day, we been doing 2 baths day, it looked like we all were having an allergic reaction to dawn! we kept using it tho.. on 4th day in the dawn bath, there looked to b a film over the water, it was gobs of them! i couldn't believe it! n wouldn't if i hadn't seen w my own eyes! i checked w black light n it was amazing the difference! we can c the red spots now, but only cause it is where they have come out of our body! i checked today, 5th day, they r completely gone from my legs arms n hands, but still have some on my chest, not sure on my back, but nothing like it was! it is killing them on my chest n stuff, but i think taking little longer cause not completely submerged there like my other parts.. there r so many people that r wrong about them! even the drs n cdc, n i say that cause i have seen this 1st hand! 1st few days i washed all bedding everyday, but now i seal them in space saver bags in morning, n vacuum all the air out, they have to have air to breath! we still vacuum good, n empty canister after, n spray it, bedding n furniture w lysol. we also at night put our shoes n stuff in garbage bag, spray a lot of Lysol in get as much air out in twist em up for the night. it is amazing actually seeing the progress w the black light
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#9 Jan 19, 2014
and hello to you!
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#10 Jan 19, 2014
i also wear disposable gloves for laundry, n would spray them w Lysol also, n very conscious about trying to prevent cross contamination. the biggest battle tho, now that we found something that actually kills them, has been getting those around us to treat n do it! i have told everyone that could have it that they have to use the black light to know, cause not everyone shows symptoms like drs say.. u have to first become allergic, n i have learned that some don't have allergic reaction to them, we had them 8 months, bad, n only the baby ever showed signs.. i think that is y some people keep getting them n can't get rid of them cause someone around them has it n they don't even know it!
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#11 Jan 19, 2014
lol, i have seriously been contemplating writing a book about our experience so it could help others hopefully!
Janadel

Spring Valley, CA

#12 Jan 21, 2014
bran0406 thanks for all the instructions...it's really helpful to know exactly what to do. I think not having all the details is why so many people are not recovering...of course that is just a guess....but I'd have to bet it's at least a good reason why part of the people don't recover from this for a long time. Let me as you, since I'm not a bath person....I've not had a bath in years...I take a lot of long showers, but not baths....so I'm guessing you fill the tub as far up as you can and not spill out with you getting in, but when you say you squeeze in a good amount of the blue dawn, would you say that's 1/4 of a big bottle or a small bottle or more or less? How long did you stay in the bath? when you say white cream...do you mean something like Alveno lotion?
Thinking about writing a book?...good idea. I was or may still write about about some other medical problem I went thru that a lot of people suffer from.I did a lot of research and got over it very quickly where others had it for months and years. So I encourage you to write. It would be very helpful to many people. When in college I did a lot of medical research for my professors. They liked me to work for them because I was good at it. I could shoot more holes in research than anyone they had ever seen, so they told me. I may be a lousy speller...but when it come to research I really go in depth.Anyway, we must stay in touch, so we can talk more about you writing your book and maybe I'll write mine. I'm not sure how I can reach you and I don't want to ask you to post your email address..that's not safe. Any ideas how we can get our email addys to each other?
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#14 Jan 21, 2014
janadel, the table salt may sting a little at first, it didn't me, but my husband said it did him a little, but it gets into where they have been biting n burrowing n kills them quick! our skin looked worse before it got better, but it was just couple of days.. we could see all the marks, bites, n burrows as they were dying
Janadel

Spring Valley, CA

#15 Jan 23, 2014
bran0406 wrote:
janadel, the table salt may sting a little at first, it didn't me, but my husband said it did him a little, but it gets into where they have been biting n burrowing n kills them quick! our skin looked worse before it got better, but it was just couple of days.. we could see all the marks, bites, n burrows as they were dying
Hi
bran0406..The last 2 days I've used the Dawn you've recommended and put borax on the carpet. I'm looking into getting a dryer and hopefully will find one by this weekend. I've come to the conclusion that just line drying is not enough and there are still the things that can't be washed, like purses, various dress, shoes, etc.....so I think for me a dryer (with a drying rack inside)would be a good idea. As for bathing, I'm now covering myself with Dawn (including my hair) and then showering and scrubbing with a long handled back brush morning and evenings and once day covering myself with Argan oil, then today I added Alveno on top of the oil. I can say I certainly have soft skin...LOL..might as well get something out of this misery. I'm also spraying every where I can with 91% Isopropyl alcohol, 2xs a day and I'm washing all my bedding, towels, and my cloths that I wore the night before and the cloths from the day before each morning with All (white bottle) and Borax and I let them soak for 30 min and then rinse with vinegar.Also every time I feel an itch I slather on that spot, Hand Sanitizer that's 62% alcohol.Also I am keeping my hair covered with oil and on top of that I put hand Sanitizer, until I wash it, which I do morning and evening. Luckily they I have no children here and they are not biting my husband, but he's starting to cooperate and help me with this bug problem. AS for the vacuuming, I plan on doing that tomorrow, now that the borax has been in the carpet 2 days and then I'll put down new borax on the carpet after I vacuum tomorrow. That's where I'm at right now. The itches are less, but I still have them. I did notice a real decrease after I put borax on the carpet. BTW what it your idea to use a salt shaker to put the borax on the carpet? It's a great idea! Last night when washing down some dresser drawers with borax, I did find a few red mites. I'm still not sure if I have bird mites or scabies. Can you tell me how I can tell the difference? Also when I get things out of the wash and once they are dry, I'm finding little back bugs (dead ones) on things like my socks and a few other cloths too....they are just stock in the material. Any suggestions on how to get them out of the material? BTW...the mites I'm finding are red, but the dead bugs I'm finding in my socks after washing are black....are they the same bugs? They look the same. Thanks again for all your help...Janadel
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#17 Jan 24, 2014
omg! same thing here! i put a bowl of apple cider vinegar out n it seems things are getting in it.. it seemed to look reddish when alive n black when dead! ur husband needs to b treating too! i promise u! we have become super sensitive to them now.. think it has to do w where we completely killed them off our body we are now more allergic to them. none of us showed symptoms for 8 months, only the baby.. but now we can literally see the burrows right away when they get on us! i am scared it is on epidemic level here n they just don't know it yet. i had take son to dr to get note to go back to school, n we could literally see some getting on us! not the actual mite, but the marks from them.. i really think it freaked the dr n nurse out! they could see the whelp form! we are actually talking about moving! i am worried he is going to get lit up mon when he goes to school! this is the craziest thing i have ever seen! until all those around us get rid of them we won't b able to!
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#18 Jan 24, 2014
putting Vaseline on real good helps with dry skin, but also seems to smother them.. i really hope that we could cause these to become extinct! i hate that so many suffer from these!
bran0406

Manchester, KY

#20 Jan 26, 2014
Janadel, word of caution, if u have what we have, killing these completely off u makes u more allergic, n reactions more extreme! they literally put like paper cuts on us! we have them completely off us n out of our home, but these r on epidemic level here, in just 8 months! i sent mass email t o governors from ky to mo,, state reps, n military chain of command, the tag down! i posted that on another thread.. i know i am right about this!
bran0406

London, KY

#21 Jan 29, 2014
Janadel, hope things are getting better for you! This past month has been a nightmare for us! It seemed like it was impossible to get them out of the house and off of us, but we did only to find how massively they spread here. If we had showed symptoms or something I probably wouldn't of learned as much as I have.. this has been the most crazy thing i have ever seen! my sister is a nurse practitioner and i am a registered nurse, and this isn't anything we have ever seen! I sent my 2nd email to everyone from the governor down chain of command.. very drastic, but this really has become a drastic situation for us, and from the sounds of it, for many people here! i have been in the military for 14 yrs, and my husband has been in for 19 yrs, both of us in leadership positions, so it was an extreme move sending the emails like i did, but i called 3 doctors offices around here this morning to ask them if they had been seeing increase in scabies, all 3 said in past 4 months they have seen on average 6 to 7 new cases a month.. not a huge amount, but it is very significant! these are 3 separate offices, all saying the same. i am really hoping to get the military to really look into this and find an actual cure for these! the fact that it could potentially be spreading quickly through the military, i really think they will take this very seriously! i hope anyways! i would love to be a part of the research team.. I know the scabies we have has been nothing like the current info the CDC has, not in the way the symptoms manifested, nor the treatment or anything. these monsters have evolved and become resistant to current meds and they need to address this! i am very persistent, and won't be giving up on pushing them for action any time soon!! How are things going for you? have you noticed your reactions getting worse? have you tried using antihistamines, such as Clairton or Zyrtec?
Lee

Canton, OH

#23 Apr 26, 2014
We are in the same boat here...only I've been looking at them thru a microscope n they are not scabies. Seen hundreds of posts from the last few years, docs not taking this seriously. I've got them in nose and ears too, worried how far internally they've made it in the 3 months I've been trying to get help. Beware flulike symptoms and chest congestion/pressure could mean the mites were carrying nasty disease...symptoms will wax and wane...anemia and dehydration are hints. Neem oil in eucalyptus and camphor lotion or clove oil mixed with a little peppermint oil in lotion help but watch the clove, too much will burn like crazy and keep it out of eyes and mucous membranes!! PinXav diaper ointment helped for awhile, but messy and they seem to build up tolerance. I too have been emailing and calling all over for entemological help to ID these bastards. So far getting the bug brush off from them and six doctors. Don't bother with the dermatologists, if it's not life or scabies they think it doesn't exist. I was wishing for a Corpsman...at least they would try to figure it out!! Even veterinarians don't recognize it - making my animals sick and they are just doing the same old things that don't work. I did read about and talk to a vet dermatologist locally that says she sees more Cheyletiella mite infections than fleas...and they are harder to kill than scabie mange on PWRs and can infest humans too, including ears and nose etc... If you have pets, they can be giving it back to you. Treatment us Revolution every 15 days, use lime sulfur dips and treat house carpet and furniture with Virbac Knockout ES for fleas and ticks (means it should kill mites too). The spray is supposed to leave residual that works for months. What I see in the scope hasn't convinced me it's Cheyletiella, seems like it's more than one thing, which is also possible and likely, regardless what the docs say. Some parasites are parasitic to other critters - there are 50,000 species of mites we know of, and many infect mammals and other bugs. Personally I think one of the invaders is a microscopic nematode, like the ones they sell by the million at hardware stores to control pests in the yard and garden. I think the pesticide companies know about it too, and are working behind the scenes to convince docs not to look onto this. Sounds a little nuts, I know, but so does doctors not using a microscope to diagnose microscopic parasites that don't act like or respond to treatment like scabies. Makes no damned sense. Something is fishy. There is a NIH clinical study for parasites still taking applicants - you need referral by a doc and they will thoroughly examine and treat you with non-experimental drugs. Local hospital just reported seeing a lot of rashes...hoping the public health system opens it's eyes soon...
Lee

Canton, OH

#24 Apr 26, 2014
Here is that clinical trial...looks like it's available at some local hospitals: http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0000164... . Please share!! It may be the only way they ever notice...

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