Imidacloprid
charlie

Irvine, CA

#1890 Feb 1, 2013
These threads have been like buoys or lifesavers for me. Thanks everyone. Am finding out for real if 'Cured for Life's story about UCLA is for true or copied from Syria. Am going back for Day 2 at UCLA tomorrow.
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#1891 Feb 2, 2013
charlie wrote:
These threads have been like buoys or lifesavers for me. Thanks everyone. Am finding out for real if 'Cured for Life's story about UCLA is for true or copied from Syria. Am going back for Day 2 at UCLA tomorrow.
Charlie please quit bumping this thread . It is all poisonous nonsense that never cured anyone and only made it worse for many.
VSS

Hollywood, FL

#1892 Mar 5, 2013
lotus_fan wrote:
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Read the whole imidacloprid thread for some reference on what you are talking about , the success of advantix has been greatly over rated in this forum , same with Iver, it has been the knee jerk recommendation of the knuckle draggers because there is a bigger picture that these people don't get.
As far as just using advantix or freedom 45 it isn't formulated to kill mites in your skin but if someone wanted to jump on the toxic permethrin bandwagon the best way to do that is to get the 5% permethrin cream and add advantix to it. The permethrin cream is formulated to penetrate skin and egg casings. Check out the ingredients in the cream(google), for example one of them is sodium hydroxide(it's lye) they put that in there to melt the eggs.
This is interesting, that they put LYE in the Elimite Cream to melt the eggs.
I know that Faerie with ooglies used alot of lye soap. hummm.

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Vicar of Dibley

Bristol, UK

#1893 Aug 28, 2013
paranoid wrote:
Found this study which is interesting and seems much more advanced than most research, from a dermatology journal. The authors say scabies actually can go down to the stratum granulosum layer of skin and that asymptomatic scabies, ie having scabies without symptoms, is more common than previously thought. Which is creepy, but explains why people probably get reinfected even if family members don't show symptoms.
http://dermatology.cdlib.org/127/commentary/s...
I have just read the article and wish doctors would read it. As for 'Delusional Parasitosis' the 'experts' who cam up with that need to be made to read this 10 times over.
Bazizzle

Golden, CO

#1894 Sep 5, 2013
Missing my family wrote:
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Hi RK, I heard that you are the truth. I was wondering how your post scabies went, what symptoms did you have or if your still having any.
Thanks and congrats on being clear.
RK was never cured and is still fighting, despite all his "superior" knowledge.
Killed Scabies

Elmhurst, NY

#1895 Oct 20, 2013
Advantage II for extra large dogs was the only thing that cured my scabies. I suffered for 2 years before I found this cure and now I'm cure. Thank God for Advantage II (imidacloprid).

You only need to apply it once in the skin, it gets absorbed into your body and kills off all mites for 30 days non-stop, so as soon as the eggs hatch the newborn mites die off as well. Any re-contamination from the environment also gets taken care of since it's a long acting mite killer (30 days).
Panel

Hollywood, FL

#1896 Nov 30, 2013
I'm bumping this thread to the TOP because there is alot to learn here. For those of you who want to learn something new that may help you, read this thread!!.

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Since: Nov 13

Vancouver, WA

#1897 Dec 2, 2013
RK in the house wrote:
I will attempt to summarize my experience with scabies in order to help others. I used advantix ( mixed 50-50 with grapeseed oil and was finally cured). The advantix is 45% permethrin and 8.8 percent imidacloprid. If you read some of the available journal articles on advantix, it says that 1. Imidacloprid stays on oneís skin along time, 2. There are reports that insects like wasps, bees cannot make hives after being sprayed with this insecticide. I believe that mites which have been doused with imidacloprid/advantix have a more difficult time making burrows and this is one of the general effects, advantages of imidacloprid.
I tried everything and followed all the protocols. First, the ones from Progress using benzyl benzoate 25% for 10 days or so along with Ivermectin pills from India. This did not work. I also tried 5% permethrin ( 7 days straight also no results), borax with peroxide ( basically Tedís mange solution following all the protocols, except I added some peroxide), 55 days straight of 20% sulfur, with alcohol and aqueous solution ( Phoenix 62ís recipe, except with aqueous solution). I had done 7-8 days first with sulfur and lotion but that dried me out terribly. Once I put in aqueous solution, I did not get dried out. I also did about 4 times Lindane which also did not cure me. I took NEEM pills too, they really helped to calm my anxiety but did not stop mites from reproducing which is ( the latter ) pure fantasy. There is not one credible scientific sources that has proven Neem leaves to stop mites from reproducing.
So Advantix did and I have been mite free for 7 weeks now. I had scabies for appromixately 5 Ĺ months of pure hell.
I put the advantix ( 50-50 solution with grapeseed oil ) on full body. Now every night you must put some on the hands and sleep over night with it on. If you plan to use this ( which is at your discretion, I am not in any way a medical professional ) you MUST put the advantix mix ( 50-50) under your fingernails, toe nails and in the nose and eyelids. Use a q-tip.
Now as stated before, do the whole body including back, scalp, face, eyebrows, everything. Wear crocs, this helped me quite a bit. Also, buy the dust mite covers for mattress, pillowcase and blanket. I cleaned every other day using bleach and borax wiping down the mattress, pillow case and blanket cover during the 5 1/2 -6 months of this hell. I was everything for 5 Ĺ months in bleach and borax. I do not have a dryer here. We hang dry everything. I simply ironed. It beats boiling your clothes ( which will ruin them). Iron everything and then you can be sure of no live mites re-infecting you. Iron every part of your clothes, including the seams.
So what did it for me, I applied the advantix on for 12 straight days. I would use from 1-2 pippettes/tubules of advantix ( as I said before mixed with grapeseed oil ). 1 tubule of this mix was usually enough for the whole body. I applied on day 1-2 tubules, then day 2ó1-2 tubules of advantix. Day 3, I applied nothing, I simply let what I had applied on days 1 and 2 remain and keep working. Day 4 in the morning I showered. Then immediately I repeated this process.
I did this for 12 days straight and then I felt cured. I went off of the advantix for 5-7 days but then my doubts crept back in my head ( because the post-scabies was almost exactly like when I actually had scabies ) so I applied it again for 5 days, then off 5 days, then 3 more days. So my treatment was 12 days straight, 7 days off, 5 days on again, 5 days off and then for the last time, 3 days again.
Cont'd
Thanks for this post RK so as far as dilution 50% for one vile of advantix hiw much grape seed oil did you add to dilute it? And will this cover your body? Just making sure I do what you did. Each bike seems so small how many ml is in the extra large dose? Thanks just want to make sure there is enough to cover my entire body.

Since: May 13

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#1898 Dec 2, 2013
I have been following this thread for almost two years and the last I heard RK was still infected and trying various protocols. Topicals simply do not reach deep enough to kill all the living mites, and then there's the problem with new born mites hatching for weeks afterward. In many cases a cure is not possible. Unless you can fight them from the inside out using powerful drugs. So far I haven't discovered a drug that can accomplish that. But you are misleading people by promoting RK and this thread, a thread that has been abandoned for over a year.
Panel

Hollywood, FL

#1899 Dec 2, 2013
demodicosisZZZ wrote:
I have been following this thread for almost two years and the last I heard RK was still infected and trying various protocols. Topicals simply do not reach deep enough to kill all the living mites, and then there's the problem with new born mites hatching for weeks afterward. In many cases a cure is not possible. Unless you can fight them from the inside out using powerful drugs. So far I haven't discovered a drug that can accomplish that. But you are misleading people by promoting RK and this thread, a thread that has been abandoned for over a year.
Demo is FRED and he doesn't stop....
He never leaves RK alone...
I am putting this thread on top for people to learn about alternative treatments, "Fred." or whoever you are. Do you have a problem with that? Really? Are you not cured yet? I'm so sorry.
Yes, there is a resistant mite out there, there are immunities that can't be cured of this, there are problems out there, but listen up, YOU are not the answer on this forum. Get that?
Panel

Hollywood, FL

#1900 Dec 2, 2013
demodicosisZZZ wrote:
I have been following this thread for almost two years and the last I heard RK was still infected and trying various protocols. Topicals simply do not reach deep enough to kill all the living mites, and then there's the problem with new born mites hatching for weeks afterward. In many cases a cure is not possible. Unless you can fight them from the inside out using powerful drugs. So far I haven't discovered a drug that can accomplish that. But you are misleading people by promoting RK and this thread, a thread that has been abandoned for over a year.
Fred, I'm surprised that you didn't throw in a link here to your thread... Or would that give you away. Yes, they hatch for weeks afterward; that is why you continue to treat for a few months. All immunities and people are different. It's not cut and paste.
wantmylifeback

Dover Plains, NY

#1901 Jan 7, 2014
RK in the house wrote:
Move on to the Eprinex thread, use eprinex with isopropyl alcohol (its functions much like DMSO), citra solv and eprinex.
Isopropyl (30%), citra solv (25%), eprinex (45%), mixed thoroughly, shake for several minutes, let sit, then use immediately.
This finally worked for me.
RK
Hi RK...I thought you were cured using Advantix II? I have been following your thread about it and in the process of getting ready to use it. Has anyone considered mixing Permethrin cream with the advantix II? I wonder if that would have an even better effect on curing the scabies? I have been battling these little demons for 6 long months now. Used oral Ivermectin, resistant to permethrin, then tried Eurax, malathion and benzyl benzoate. Tried neem baths, bleach baths, tea tree and clove oil. The essential oils help but do not cure the disease. I am at the end of my rope here and would appreciate any feedback.
wantmylifeback

Dover Plains, NY

#1902 Jan 7, 2014
Killed Scabies wrote:
Advantage II for extra large dogs was the only thing that cured my scabies. I suffered for 2 years before I found this cure and now I'm cure. Thank God for Advantage II (imidacloprid).
You only need to apply it once in the skin, it gets absorbed into your body and kills off all mites for 30 days non-stop, so as soon as the eggs hatch the newborn mites die off as well. Any re-contamination from the environment also gets taken care of since it's a long acting mite killer (30 days).
Hi Killed Scabies....did you mix the Advantix II with a carrier oil (which one) and what was the ratio? You only used it one so how many pipettes did you use. I weight about 125 lbs. so I don't know if I should use one or two. I also have the scabies on my scalp. Unfortunately mine went above the neck which makes it more difficult to cure. Some people say to put the Advantix II on their eyelids as well. I would think that this would be harmful to the very delicate skin around the eye and was wondering if that is necessary to do. I'm so worn down from all of this and depressed. I want to get back to my life before this nightmare happened to me. I really need a cure and would appreciate your feedback or anyone else on the forum who feel they have something constructive to add. Thanks so much.
Anonymous

Lawrence, KS

#1903 Jan 8, 2014
RK in the house wrote:
6, there are 6 pipettes in there.
It is cheaper to buy in packages of 12 if there are.
Buy about 36 to start with for about 26 days of treatment. You realize that you will be mixing this 50-50. You know half and half with light olive oil and advantixII.
Or use sunflower oil, any cooking oil but it had to be the light one. Light olive oil, light grapeseed oil.
Or better yet buy about 42 then just in case.
RK
RK I have been trying to send you a message but I will just send this to everyone. You all have possibly saved my life. RK has stayed with us and given us updates that were vital. He encouraged us to post and give updates. I have watched so many of you cured. I can't thank you enough. I did what TSD did sort of, with imi. Then after reading you all about advantix I realized I needed to add perm to the mix. I have done imi perm and pbo tonight for the first time. Don't get mad and freak out but I am broke from all this. Here is what I'm trying tonight. I have been fighting this for a year. You all know how it goes. I did it all. I don't know if there is a god but I finally prayed to please cure me. I'm getting better from that time i prayed but here is what I did. Imi in the form of ortho bug be gone while i waited for dominion to come in so about a week. Right before that I used Malathion. The mal didn't seem to work and made me really really sick and poisoned. The ortho started working right away. It stopped itching bites were less and less. The Dominion has made even less bites. I had some left over happy jack kennel dip II from some unsuccessful treatments. You can get all this from farm and hardware stores. I'm not sure if I'm cured or not. All I know is I think it's working. I think I needed to add the happy jack to it to make it like advantix. Obviously it isn't the exact same percentage but it might work. I'll let you guys know. It seems a little cheaper this way. But also http://www.budgetpetcare.com/k9-advantix-for-... this was a really good deal so I might try that too. RK would you message me so I can talk to you? Seriously you guys might have saved my life. I wasn't a very happy person till things started looking up. It's really nice to read how you all went through exactly the same frustrations I have. Even better is the part where you are cured.:)

Since: Dec 13

Location hidden

#1904 Jan 8, 2014
heartsxoxo wrote:
<quoted text>RK I have been trying to send you a message but I will just send this to everyone. You all have possibly saved my life. RK has stayed with us and given us updates that were vital. He encouraged us to post and give updates. I have watched so many of you cured. I can't thank you enough. I did what TSD did sort of, with imi. Then after reading you all about advantix I realized I needed to add perm to the mix. I have done imi perm and pbo tonight for the first time. Don't get mad and freak out but I am broke from all this. Here is what I'm trying tonight. I have been fighting this for a year. You all know how it goes. I did it all. I don't know if there is a god but I finally prayed to please cure me. I'm getting better from that time i prayed but here is what I did. Imi in the form of ortho bug be gone while i waited for dominion to come in so about a week. Right before that I used Malathion. The mal didn't seem to work and made me really really sick and poisoned. The ortho started working right away. It stopped itching bites were less and less. The Dominion has made even less bites. I had some left over happy jack kennel dip II from some unsuccessful treatments. You can get all this from farm and hardware stores. I'm not sure if I'm cured or not. All I know is I think it's working. I think I needed to add the happy jack to it to make it like advantix. Obviously it isn't the exact same percentage but it might work. I'll let you guys know. It seems a little cheaper this way. But also http://www.budgetpetcare.com/k9-advantix-for-... this was a really good deal so I might try that too. RK would you message me so I can talk to you? Seriously you guys might have saved my life. I wasn't a very happy person till things started looking up. It's really nice to read how you all went through exactly the same frustrations I have. Even better is the part where you are cured.:)
FYI, RK no longer logs on to Topix. He is not cured. Advantix 2 Blue is no longer used by scabies sufferers. Online you can order Freedom 45 Spot On for $25 or pay twice that for Advantix. Both have 45% Permethrin.
Anonymous

Lawrence, KS

#1905 Jan 8, 2014
Angel-1 wrote:
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About this question, please read MelissaKay's post(#509), I think she already answered you this question.She is right, it is not because your mites moved, it is because you also have scabies on the places where there was no symptoms and sensation presented before the Advantix application.
About the Ivermection question, please read post #274 for information.
About Advantix application, apply it daily(every day, shower on the 4th day) for 12 days in a row, then take 5 days off, then 5 days on,......
Angel is there any way you can message me? I can't seem to message you or anyone personally.
Anonymous

Lawrence, KS

#1906 Jan 8, 2014
paranoid4_a_rsn wrote:
I am starting to lose hope. I keep thinking I might be almost done, but then realizing I am not. I do not understand this at all, and I do not understand how they have been so deep under my skin for years without me or apparently any of the numerous dermatologists i've seen knowing.
After scrubbing my skin I found (warning, this is gross) several areas underneath...this is after over a month treating with Advantix pretty hardcore..little built up pockets, skin colored, but the skin was very hard and tough. This is UNDER the top layers, I never even noticed these before or thought anything of them. I am not sure what to do. I have thought of going to the ER since I do not have insurance as of 6 months ago, but I don't think they will believe me, since I have no itching.
I know I am going to get a lot of grief for this and get told I am crazy and a troll or whatever, but I just am not sure I will ever get rid of this. I am spending so much money and it's like I'm barely making a dent. How is this possible? I finally told my boyfriend everything and he feels I am "overreacting" but has no idea what I have experienced. I am also very worried my home is infested with them somehow despite all the cleaning. They definitely live more than 3 days off the body...in fact, I don't really understand why they can't live off the body. Can someone explain that to me? Supposedly they need "the warmth of the body to survive", but if they eat dead skin and it's warm outside, why couldn't they live outside or off the host or whatever? I just am not understanding why they will not go away. I cleaned my car out again this week and put in another pest strip, and in the morning found little balls of hair and shit on the seat that were not there before. Do I have to throw out my furniture? I will if I have to, or my clothes. They are obviously living somehow, and I do not think all of the dust in the house has been from the diatomaceous earth. Six months ago I had tons of friends and a life. Now I feel like a leper.
I am so revolted with this thing and my body, I want it to go away, and I know if I go to a doctor they will tell me I am insane or think I want meth. I don't know what to do anymore. I want to burn my skin off.
Paranoid please message me. My story is so much like yours. My questions are so much like yours. Please talk to me. I can't message anyone. Did you find a cure?
Anonymous

Lawrence, KS

#1907 Jan 8, 2014
RK in the house wrote:
TRY CLOVE OIL,
This is RK. I got re infected 4 weeks ago from the darn public busing. I started itching. Then it became noticeable about 12 days ago. I was off treatment for 6 months 25 days.
Anyways, the NEWS IS THAT there is a group of us. We are all using clove oil, at ratios of 3-1 or 4-1.
That is, 3 portions light olive oil to 1 portion clove oil.
Clove oil can be bought in the drug store for tooth pain. It specifically Clove Bud Oil can be bought from the internet very very cheaply.
If I were to estimate, I would say that it goes about 3 times deeper into the epidermis and dermis than advantix. However it does not kill mites as quickly as advantix. It is a scabicide but seems to kill them after a period of time, much like fipronil which has them running about for 10-14 hours then they die.
My preliminary estimate after one week of CLOVE BUD OIL is that it works 3 times better than advantix. But that is just after 1 week of treatment.
There is an article by Cielo Pasay, from Queensland that says make sure you dilute clove oil. If you don't it can cause nerve damage and darken your skin. Another article from YC Ho also confirms this.
I have been using it everyday so far, dilute 3 to 1.
I did clove oil. it didn't work for me and it burned me really bad. Did it work for you?
Anonymous

Lawrence, KS

#1908 Jan 8, 2014
Me Too wrote:
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I hope you are cured!! If it has been a month with no recurring outbreaks, you should be. The treatment you had should work for you, unless you get reinfected from your environment or sometimes some people like me have skin colored bumps that are like hatcheries and are hard to kill what is in them. My bumps are going away now, but I have read from other people that they have the same thing and then I read an actual article where a doctor opened one up. Another new way for scabies to survive.
I have read so many of your posts. Your english is getting so good! Also your posts are some of the most helpful. Thank you.
wantmylifeback

Dover Plains, NY

#1909 Jan 12, 2014
RK in the house wrote:
Move on to the Eprinex thread, use eprinex with isopropyl alcohol (its functions much like DMSO), citra solv and eprinex.
Isopropyl (30%), citra solv (25%), eprinex (45%), mixed thoroughly, shake for several minutes, let sit, then use immediately.
This finally worked for me.
RK
Hello RK...thank you for all your feedback and research. It means so to me and others on this forum as well to support one another when you are going through this scabies nightmare. I would appreciate if you would please get back to me regarding the Eprinex. Do you mean to use the Eprinex with alcohol in place of DMSO plus the rest of the essential oils. What is the difference between the two? Sorry, but just a little confused.:)

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