Imidacloprid
Canuckette

Hamilton, Canada

#134 Jan 27, 2011
Q-tip wrote:
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Hi Canuckette. I think the Humco sublimed sulfur is finer than the garden sulfur. I have some and it is very fine. And it's cheap, too.
http://www.amazon.com/Humco-Sulfur-Powder-Sub...
Thanks Q-tip. do you have any ideas about what to use as a lotion? I think I have developed an allergy to lanolin since all this, along with any number of other skin allergies. I might get rid of the bugs but the allergies may stay with me.
Q-tip

Hollywood, FL

#135 Jan 27, 2011
Canuckette wrote:
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Thanks Q-tip. do you have any ideas about what to use as a lotion? I think I have developed an allergy to lanolin since all this, along with any number of other skin allergies. I might get rid of the bugs but the allergies may stay with me.
A hydrating lotion. any lotion out there will do.

Since: Oct 10

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#136 Jan 27, 2011
I've used aqueous solution and as far as I can tell, that by far is the best hydrating topical there is because lotions have alot of thick oil, aqueous cream does not, it hydrates skin very well.

Rk
Canuckette

Hamilton, Canada

#137 Jan 28, 2011
RK in the house wrote:
I've used aqueous solution and as far as I can tell, that by far is the best hydrating topical there is because lotions have alot of thick oil, aqueous cream does not, it hydrates skin very well.
Rk
Pardon my ignorance but can you give me a name of an aqueous soution. Thanks.

Since: Jan 10

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#138 Jan 28, 2011
Hi Canuckette,
We don't generally get Aqueous Cream over the counter here, but some pharmacists carry it behind the counter to mix with other medicines. Aquaphor by Eucerin might be similar and has less additives.

http://allergynotes.blogspot.com/2011/01/aque...

I have pretty sensitive skin and all of the basic eucerin products were fine for me.

This product from Eidon was the mildest one I used though and it lasts a long time.

http://www.eidon.com/store/proddetail.php...
Canuckette

Hamilton, Canada

#139 Jan 28, 2011
armed and fabulous wrote:
Hi Canuckette,
We don't generally get Aqueous Cream over the counter here, but some pharmacists carry it behind the counter to mix with other medicines. Aquaphor by Eucerin might be similar and has less additives.
http://allergynotes.blogspot.com/2011/01/aque...
I have pretty sensitive skin and all of the basic eucerin products were fine for me.
This product from Eidon was the mildest one I used though and it lasts a long time.
http://www.eidon.com/store/proddetail.php...
Thanks Armed!
RK in the house

Central District, Hong Kong

#140 Mar 20, 2011
I will attempt to summarize my experience with scabies in order to help others. I used advantix ( mixed 50-50 with grapeseed oil and was finally cured). The advantix is 45% permethrin and 8.8 percent imidacloprid. If you read some of the available journal articles on advantix, it says that 1. Imidacloprid stays on oneís skin along time, 2. There are reports that insects like wasps, bees cannot make hives after being sprayed with this insecticide. I believe that mites which have been doused with imidacloprid/advantix have a more difficult time making burrows and this is one of the general effects, advantages of imidacloprid.
I tried everything and followed all the protocols. First, the ones from Progress using benzyl benzoate 25% for 10 days or so along with Ivermectin pills from India. This did not work. I also tried 5% permethrin ( 7 days straight also no results), borax with peroxide ( basically Tedís mange solution following all the protocols, except I added some peroxide), 55 days straight of 20% sulfur, with alcohol and aqueous solution ( Phoenix 62ís recipe, except with aqueous solution). I had done 7-8 days first with sulfur and lotion but that dried me out terribly. Once I put in aqueous solution, I did not get dried out. I also did about 4 times Lindane which also did not cure me. I took NEEM pills too, they really helped to calm my anxiety but did not stop mites from reproducing which is ( the latter ) pure fantasy. There is not one credible scientific sources that has proven Neem leaves to stop mites from reproducing.
So Advantix did and I have been mite free for 7 weeks now. I had scabies for appromixately 5 Ĺ months of pure hell.
I put the advantix ( 50-50 solution with grapeseed oil ) on full body. Now every night you must put some on the hands and sleep over night with it on. If you plan to use this ( which is at your discretion, I am not in any way a medical professional ) you MUST put the advantix mix ( 50-50) under your fingernails, toe nails and in the nose and eyelids. Use a q-tip.
Now as stated before, do the whole body including back, scalp, face, eyebrows, everything. Wear crocs, this helped me quite a bit. Also, buy the dust mite covers for mattress, pillowcase and blanket. I cleaned every other day using bleach and borax wiping down the mattress, pillow case and blanket cover during the 5 1/2 -6 months of this hell. I was everything for 5 Ĺ months in bleach and borax. I do not have a dryer here. We hang dry everything. I simply ironed. It beats boiling your clothes ( which will ruin them). Iron everything and then you can be sure of no live mites re-infecting you. Iron every part of your clothes, including the seams.
So what did it for me, I applied the advantix on for 12 straight days. I would use from 1-2 pippettes/tubules of advantix ( as I said before mixed with grapeseed oil ). 1 tubule of this mix was usually enough for the whole body. I applied on day 1-2 tubules, then day 2ó1-2 tubules of advantix. Day 3, I applied nothing, I simply let what I had applied on days 1 and 2 remain and keep working. Day 4 in the morning I showered. Then immediately I repeated this process.
I did this for 12 days straight and then I felt cured. I went off of the advantix for 5-7 days but then my doubts crept back in my head ( because the post-scabies was almost exactly like when I actually had scabies ) so I applied it again for 5 days, then off 5 days, then 3 more days. So my treatment was 12 days straight, 7 days off, 5 days on again, 5 days off and then for the last time, 3 days again.

Cont'd
RK in the house-- Part 2

Central District, Hong Kong

#141 Mar 20, 2011
Anything with permethrin will give you post-scabies meaning the pinpricks and sensations almost exactly like scabies. If you read many of the posts, you can find out about this.
Now about post scabies, I had rashes for 1-2 even three days on the elbows, inside of the knee and leg ( near the knee) and feet and legs below the knee. Usually they would go away after 2 hours, sometimes these rashes would last an entire day. But I had the rashes and itching pretty bad for about 5 weeks after treatment. Only now is it reasonably tolerable. I still get light light pinprick sensations in my feet. However, no bites. No spread of scabies bites to other areas such as the calves. When I had scabies, it moved from the feet to calves or from other parts of the body to the calves or feet. This is just an after effect of the permethrin. It might even be permanent. My doctor told me that permethrin kills nerves cells. But better this ( the tingling feeling constantly in the feet ) than to have scabies.
Now some major news about the mites. Human scabies are yellow, and shiny under light. The medical journal article by J. Yoshizumi ĎWake signí: an important clue for the diagnosis of scabies, has a color picture of a scabies mite ( not a magnified microscope picture which is useless. In this article, the color picture of the mite is yellow and slight brown at the tip of the abdomen, you can buy these online or if someone is willing to share, some of the folks on topix have these articles). The scabies mite has brown-black areas in the hind legs and mouth parts. The mites that I saw come out of my hand the first time I applied Advantix were black so I donít know if that was bird mites or not. Bird mites are supposed to be black.
So now it has been 7 weeks since I stopped treatment. Now about the post scabies and the ability to tell the difference between scabies and post-scabies. Basically, if you have had this for awhile, you canít tell the difference, your mind will be burned out from the paranoia and pain you have suffered. You may jump at any or many symptoms. But if you read the Andrewsí Diseases of the Skin, Clinical Dermatology, 9th edition, it states about the mitesóscabies mites in their stomachs have acid. What you typically feel is a bit, is the mites dropping acid into your stratum corneum in order to enlarge the burrow under your skin.
In post-scabies, you will feel quick pinpricks, like electricity, 1 second or less. Immediately after stopping treatment, these can be strong and painful almost like a real bite but less painful. This decreases as time goes on. This is different than the pinprick bite which usually last 2-3 even 4 seconds. Last piece advice, the Ivomec from Merial is the real thing. It is real ivermectin. It also seems to work to reduce the post-scabies symptoms ( if taken orally ) because there are a lot of bacterial in your skin post-scabies. Ivermectin seems to work to help prevent any of this from turning into infections. Yeah, I know it is for scabies mites but I can only tell you my experience. The pills I bought from India did not seem to be effective. I wish I had had the Ivomec before I did the advantix treatments, who knows that might have been enough. I also applied Ivomec directly to the skin in addition to orally.
So to recap, I used everything, Tedís Mange treatment ( borax and peroxide or whatever the original formula was ), permethrin 5%, lindane, benzyl benzoate, sulfur 55 days full body. Nothing was getting rid of what I had. The advantix 50-50 with grapeseed oil ( light grapeseed oil ) did the trick. Use light olive or grapeseed oil as opposed to the regular. 12 days straight ( 1-2 tubules/pipettes each time I applied), 5 days off, 5 days on, 5 days off, then last time, 3 days on.

Cont'd
RK in the house-- Part 3

Central District, Hong Kong

#142 Mar 20, 2011
As a final note, I saw 4 doctors during this crisis, 3 of who were totally useless scum, not in the profession to help anyone but themselves. Certainly those three were after the money, prestige and for the one derm that I saw, he was totally on a power trip. I didnít have the typical symptoms, just bites here and there. See the Andrews Dermatology book, it explains this pretty well. Basically it says that if you are healthy and whatnot, donít expect that you symptoms look like those of the people in the books, articles on scabies. Immune systems and reactions to the mites vary.

By the way, Angel and NeedHelp got cured from the advantix treatment as well at about the same time as myself. I will ask them to put their stories up on this post as well but I canít guarantee that they will. I was in contact with both extensively so I know their stories, treatment and cure. Finally, I am not advocating that your follow my treatment plan, it worked for me and I tried everything. Lastly, I am not in any way a health care profession so caveat emptor.

For those who have the required reading materials/information and are still on this board, pass those around please. U.S. copyright law allows people to pass on one copy for personal use as long as you do not charge others.

RK in the house.

Since: Feb 11

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#143 Mar 20, 2011
RK in the house-- Part 3 wrote:
As a final note, I saw 4 doctors during this crisis, 3 of who were totally useless scum, not in the profession to help anyone but themselves. Certainly those three were after the money, prestige and for the one derm that I saw, he was totally on a power trip. I didnít have the typical symptoms, just bites here and there. See the Andrews Dermatology book, it explains this pretty well. Basically it says that if you are healthy and whatnot, donít expect that you symptoms look like those of the people in the books, articles on scabies. Immune systems and reactions to the mites vary.
By the way, Angel and NeedHelp got cured from the advantix treatment as well at about the same time as myself. I will ask them to put their stories up on this post as well but I canít guarantee that they will. I was in contact with both extensively so I know their stories, treatment and cure. Finally, I am not advocating that your follow my treatment plan, it worked for me and I tried everything. Lastly, I am not in any way a health care profession so caveat emptor.
For those who have the required reading materials/information and are still on this board, pass those around please. U.S. copyright law allows people to pass on one copy for personal use as long as you do not charge others.
RK in the house.
Thanks RK - many of us may try your protocol. Glad you can post that you are finally free to enoy the rest of your life!

Since: Feb 11

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#144 Mar 20, 2011
RK in the house-- Part 3 wrote:
As a final note, I saw 4 doctors during this crisis, 3 of who were totally useless scum, not in the profession to help anyone but themselves. Certainly those three were after the money, prestige and for the one derm that I saw, he was totally on a power trip. I didnít have the typical symptoms, just bites here and there. See the Andrews Dermatology book, it explains this pretty well. Basically it says that if you are healthy and whatnot, donít expect that you symptoms look like those of the people in the books, articles on scabies. Immune systems and reactions to the mites vary.
By the way, Angel and NeedHelp got cured from the advantix treatment as well at about the same time as myself. I will ask them to put their stories up on this post as well but I canít guarantee that they will. I was in contact with both extensively so I know their stories, treatment and cure. Finally, I am not advocating that your follow my treatment plan, it worked for me and I tried everything. Lastly, I am not in any way a health care profession so caveat emptor.
For those who have the required reading materials/information and are still on this board, pass those around please. U.S. copyright law allows people to pass on one copy for personal use as long as you do not charge others.
RK in the house.
Just a thought, RK, why not post this under I am cured, so that other can find it or start a thread about your method.

Since: Oct 10

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#145 Mar 21, 2011
Finally a big shout out to Aaron, Angel and L.A. who helped me out during this very trying period.

And to God and Mom. I don't know where I would be all of these people.

RK

Since: Oct 10

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#146 Mar 21, 2011
Last thing, a shout out to my cousin, the vet. She helped alot too with the post scabies.

She advised the ivomec ( merial-- for cattle and pigs) post scabies for 4-6 weeks. She states that is what they do on dogs and horses post scabies if the owner has the money and wants full treatment.

The vet also said, they do tests on imidacloprid, they find traces of imidacloprid in the skin in 3-6 months after application. This can be good or bad. She is a teaching vet at a univ., meaning vet license ( which requires vet med school, then a phd in veterinary science, or medicine).

Caveat emptor, I in no way suggest you follow my protocol, only that it worked for me.

RK

Since: Oct 10

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#147 Mar 21, 2011
One more thing,

It is advantix and not advantage ( Advantage is what TSD used which is only imidacloprid).

Angel used advantix to get well. She also used advantage first but did not get any good results from this. Needhelp used advantix for 10 straight days, then no further treatment, cold turkey off. I don't know the rest of the story, only that 2-3 weeks later and no reports of further scabies.

Both had had scabies for an extensive period of time prior to using this (3 months or more). Plus if you factor in that it takes usually for this to develop which is 4-6 weeks, then ...

By the way, once I used the advantix it exposed the tracks of the burrows where I did not even know there were mites. They were extensive from armpit all over the waist. Nothing else exposed these before ( all became red ). All these tracks of red dots below the skin, then they turned brown as they healed.

But around the waist was the worst part, elbows too since there are so many folds of skins there and the skins unlike skin on the soles of the feet are not hardened.

Then you realize how bad you have it. To those who have the articles on much of this, please share with others. I have given too many of these articles to people which support what I am saying.
I am out of here and will post every now and then from on this particular imidacloprid post.

One last thing about immunity, my brother in law ( who is a pathologist ) said running, jogging is one of the best things to improve your immunity. Heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, these are the most highly vascularized organs in the body ( when you run), these organs push out all their toxins and blood is cleaned through the kidneys.

Aerobic exercise like this and not something like weight lifting, forces the body to do a complete cleaning of the blood and immune system.

But, one of the articles on the Different layers of the skin which the scabies goes to after this has been long term for you, show how difficult it is to get rid of this once you have had it for awhile.

I know we keep repeating stratum corneum but one of these articles shows how long term sufferers have scabies at the dermis level but these burrows are supplied by nutrients from the stratum corneum so the author keeps calling it stratum corneum even though the deeper burrows are at the dermis level.

RK

Since: Oct 10

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#148 Mar 21, 2011
Finally, when I did the advantix treatment, I took timee off from work. Get your doc to do a stay at home, light duty release due to having an infectious disease.

Therefore when I did advantix, it was full body, 24 hours a day, a shower every 3 days, then immediately put the junk back on.

RK

Since: Nov 10

Schwenksville, PA

#149 Mar 22, 2011
Nightmares Do Come True wrote:
Very interesting, I know that there have been others to use "advantage" and had some good results with it. I am wondering about the exact name of the product though, since advantage makes several varieties of flea and tic medicines for animals?
The beginning of my journey started with two nodes or nodules on my foot that itched like crazy, then a few weeks later it was hundreds of under the skin crawls and probably 50 or so "bugs" racing across the top of my skin. I have since figured out that I have Morgellons, but I do believe that it all started with a mite infestation, so I am a bit curious if this treatment might just help Morg sufferers as well.
Hi---im replying to an old post of yours about using advantage for your bug problem---and you said now you think you have morgellons. I know i have some type of parasite---but dont think its scabies or springtails or fleas or even mites----people have been reporting this new kind of flying white parasite that came overseas in clothes, and thats how people are getting infested. maybe thats what i have----i dont know---but when im on the laptop, they try to get into my ears and eyes and nose and mouth. I feel them moving around like worms "down there" too---but inside me. its scary. i tried iver horse paste too---but only for 5 days straight--i was scared i would end up with kidney failure if i took it any longer--but it didnt help at all. i dont know if this is a new parasite or what---but google "white flying parasite" and see what comes up. more people are reporting about this bug. i have gotten a bottle of black walnut hull capsules and cloves too and for the past few days have been taking them both along with garlic---but so far no improvement. this is frustrating. if you have any ideas for me that would be great, thanx

Since: Nov 10

Schwenksville, PA

#150 Mar 22, 2011
buggie wrote:
I'm glad it's helping you!!!!!
I had a few of those big pimple nodules. I asked the doctor if it was the Mothership he said "It's a wart." He was a doctor who truly cared too. I should have asked him to open it.
I didn't remember ever having a wart there.
And it's long gone now so yes, it was the Mothership. My back area was the worst for feeling vibrations inside my skin. Vibrations are mites hatching (my theory) or tunneling or mating. Oral Ivermectin (horsepaste, 25 days straight) got rid of those vibrations.
I had one nodule on my arm near my wrist and opened it. There was a largish pupa and an egg in the nodule. YUCK!!!
Hi there--im replying to your post awhile ago on topix about scabies treatments that you did for yourself---i read that you took horse paste ivermectin for 25 days straight????? holy cow??/ what about kidney disfunction/failure?? I only did the horse paste iver for 5 straight days and it did nothing to kill the bugs---i still feel the wormy like movements inside me. i take prescription meds too---so i was scared that too much iver would hurt me---i take prozac, clonopin, and seroquel at nite to sleep. do you take any prescrips too? write back

Since: Nov 10

Schwenksville, PA

#151 Mar 22, 2011
Yummy1210 wrote:
Needhelp You also must be careful not to keep putting alot of things on your skin which is unnatural. Remember your body absorbs everything from your skin and it goes into your bloodstream. It also can cause your skin to react by being dry or even irritating it making you feel worse overall. I've been dealing with this problem since April and I know it is no fun. Nor is it a game for some morons to play on these forums. Its real and is even emotionally harmful. I have found releaf from Borax hot baths (again not too many). Then I put Diatamacious Earth and Grapeseed oil on which usually stops all activity. I hope you may find some relief. I also feel as if I may have some nerve damage or something so I do take a muscle relaxer before going to bed as in the past I have jumped straight up and ran from being bitten and stung. I hope this is not what you are experiencing.
hi there--i wanted to tell you all that i ordered the DE and was planning on taking it internally for the parasites but when i found out it contains lead and mercury---that changed my mind a bit. so for those of you out there who are still taking Diatomateous Earth internally or rubbing on your skin---please find out exactly what all the ingredients are before you use it---I dont want to see anyone get even sicker than they are from the scabies.
Chevycars

UK

#152 Mar 23, 2011
chevycars wrote:
<quoted text>hi there--i wanted to tell you all that i ordered the DE and was planning on taking it internally for the parasites but when i found out it contains lead and mercury---that changed my mind a bit. so for those of you out there who are still taking Diatomateous Earth internally or rubbing on your skin---please find out exactly what all the ingredients are before you use it---I dont want to see anyone get even sicker than they are from the scabies.
write back.
umathr

Baltimore, MD

#153 Mar 23, 2011
a simple cure for scabies is sulfur soap. 10 percent sulfur soap. I urge anyone with scabies to try sulfur soap. It is cheap safe and effective. Of course you do not just use it one time and problem solved. I think you will get excellent results by using it in the bath or shower twice a day in the morning and before bed. Apply extra soap to rash sites. You will have to keep this regime up for some time, I would say for at least 2 months, but no biggy. The soap smells a bit like an open sewer, but I have come to like that smell. You can get sulfur soap at your local pharmacy otc. Or you can order it online. I recommend sulfurointment.com , there you can get 8 bars of sulfur soap for 25 dollars free shipping. They also have sulfur ointment which works very well, but is much more expensive. If you get the ointment along with the soap, expect to feel some grit when you apply the ointment. They both the soap and the ointment work very well

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