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Vann from Tennessee

United States

#21 Feb 17, 2010
Patty,

Sweetheart, once again you are mistaken. Here is what I actually said, "I think that DE is far too valuable of a tool to give up so quickly." If you are going to quote me, at least do so accurately.

I refer to the combination of DE + Grapeseed Oil as a cure when used with these exact procedures. I remain cured going into week 6 with no new itching, bites or rashes. All old scabs are gone with a few scars left to remind me of my horror.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T47...

Best to all,
Vann
ouchiemama

Columbia, MD

#22 Feb 17, 2010
You can use DE in your sheets/blankets which will minimize the scabies when you sleep. It worked for me. However DE is not a cure more than somewhat of a deterrent from my recent experience of living in it for a week.
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#23 Feb 18, 2010
ouchiemama,
You are correct. Used by itself, DE is not a cure. It kills the bugs dead effectively, but only if the buggies are forced to crawl through it. That is why I mixed it into a body oil carrier to leave a thin film of DE all over the body. I used a 25% mix and that cured my Scabies. Maybe a 50% mix would be more effective? That is something for you and others to experiment with. Since I am now cured, I can't do any more DE testing.

Also, the folks at the Morgellons Discussion Group
http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Mo...
are making a paste with DE and applying it to breakout areas, and reporting great results.

PS)
The wife & I are trying to learn Country Line Dancing. Can anyone recommend a good DVD tutorial?

Best to all,
Vann
Nightmares Do Come True

United States

#24 Mar 2, 2010
Bumping this thread, I believe it is important for newcomers to realize that the majority of us have tried DE without miraculous results. I condone trying this treatment, but would hate for someone to think they have a different disease just because the DE/Grapeseed oil did not work for them. Every case is different and requires a different treatment.
Delphine

Walnut Creek, CA

#25 Mar 2, 2010
"Every case is different and requires a different treatment."

Yes, and that's why it's good to remain open to
various approaches. Whatever works!
Pokadot Patty

United States

#26 Mar 2, 2010
Delphine wrote:
"Every case is different and requires a different treatment."
Yes, and that's why it's good to remain open to
various approaches. Whatever works!
Sorry... I just had to put this here too!

Hi Everybody,
Went to both my regular Dr. and my Derm today.
Both are in agreements.
I no longer have scabies.

I am pretty sure that I will continue to clean house like crazy and lie awake for a couple of hours each night waiting for the first bite.
It's all I have known for the past 19 months !

I started this treatment and my environmental clean up on January 21st, 2010.
Today is March 2, 2010....30 days from the start of my Biosilk treatment.

I will continue to post (even if it is just to slap Vann back in line) and try to help where I can.

My prayers and heart are with you all...always,
Patty
Nightmares Do Come True

United States

#27 Mar 2, 2010
Patty...that is so wonderful!! I am very happy for you. Just think, you will have the cleanest house in the neighborhood for the rest of your life ;)

I hope you do stick around this forum to help others, I left for a couple months once I figured out how to control my Morg symptoms, and also because some know it all told me that I had morgs instead of scabies when I hadn't even asked for advice. But, I decided to come back with a mission, and luckily some other good people were already on it :)

I really wish some of the old timers would drop back in once in awhile, like Progress, I think he could have continued to help a lot of people.

Anyways, I am so happy for you, and can't wait to see your posts about how you are getting back to a somewhat normal life!!!

Take care always!
Matthew
Delphine

Walnut Creek, CA

#28 Mar 2, 2010
Yes, that is wonderful Patty. Congrats on your
cure!

Delphine
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#29 Mar 3, 2010
Vann's Grapeseed Oil with Diatomacious Earth is now a proven cure for 2 people: Myself & Blackberry. Details here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T47...

I remain FREE of all itchies, bites, etc for 2 months as this week.

Best to all,
Vann
Pokadot Patty

United States

#30 Mar 3, 2010
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
Vann's Grapeseed Oil with Diatomacious Earth is now a proven cure for 2 people: Myself & Blackberry. Details here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T47...
I remain FREE of all itchies, bites, etc for 2 months as this week.
Best to all,
Vann
LOL LOL LOL....

It's just all about you...isn't it?

Guess so...you are the joke,
Patty
Pokadot Patty

United States

#31 Mar 3, 2010
Cured and I didn't use a drop of grapeseed oil or a grain of DE !!

Patty
Nightmares Do Come True

United States

#32 Mar 3, 2010
Come out of the closet already Patty, we all know you are sniffin DE on the side! LMAO
Pokadot Patty

United States

#33 Mar 3, 2010
Nightmares Do Come True wrote:
Come out of the closet already Patty, we all know you are sniffin DE on the side! LMAO
OK Matt,

I did it one time, but I did not inhale !!!

;) Patty
IZO

Warren, MI

#34 Mar 5, 2010
So Vann,
You "SPOKE" to this Morgellon's Expert yourself? That is what it sounds like?
How were "YOU" so lucky to be able to do so?
These experts there WON'T TALK TO ANYONE!!!
Did you 'pose' as a Dr or someone in the Public Health 'Arena' to pull it off?
I am VERY interested in knowing!!!!
PLUS, YOU HAVE NOT INFORMED US OF YOUR CURRENT STATUS? ARE YOU, INDEED, CURED COMPLETELY????
WE ARE "ALL" WAITING TO HEAR????
YOU HAVE BEEN COMPLEELY SILENT????
IZO
P.S. I agree with Patty. I have found fibers and threads, etc., on my skin - I am diagnosed with Morgellons - per the doctors because I have had Scabies or SO long. The fibers "I" find are the SAME AS PATTY'S - EXACTLY WHAT I AM/WAS WEARING!!!!
Morgellon's is a mite, as well. There is another posting, recently, that there are OVERa 45,000 DIFFERENT "TYPES" OF MITES ... that is why '1' treatment does NOT work for "EVERYONE"!! WE are ALL DIFFERENT, ABD THGE MITES ARE ALL DIFFERENT!!
IZO
IZO

Warren, MI

#35 Mar 5, 2010
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
Patty,
Sweetheart, once again you are mistaken. Here is what I actually said, "I think that DE is far too valuable of a tool to give up so quickly." If you are going to quote me, at least do so accurately.
I refer to the combination of DE + Grapeseed Oil as a cure when used with these exact procedures. I remain cured going into week 6 with no new itching, bites or rashes. All old scabs are gone with a few scars left to remind me of my horror.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T47...
Best to all,
Vann
*****Are you going to change your HEADING TO YOUR POST????? YOU SHOULD, SINCE IT DID NOT WORK FOR PATTY!!!!
Nightmares Do Come True

United States

#36 Mar 6, 2010
Izo, I am total agreement with you as far as Vann's behavior on this forum. But, I must disagree with you on this point.
"Morgellon's is a mite, as well."
There is a possibility that some Morgellons symptoms are the result of a mite. In fact, I believe that my Morg symptoms started due to a mite infestation, but, there is no evidence to dictate that this is the case in every Morgellons sufferer.

Most Morg sufferers do start off with either a mite infestation or a bite from a spider or tick. But there are many cases where this has not been the case. I am not trying to pick on you at all, I just want to make sure that the facts stay straight so that no one will be led astray.

There is a large rift in the Morgellons community concerning this exact point. Many believe that the Morg symptoms are the resulting manifestation from chemtrails and agrobacteria that our government has allowed to be sprayed on us and our food. Others believe that the symptoms are the result of our bodies immune systems being lowered to a point that Collembola and other microscopic pests are attracted to the body of the Morg sufferer. And there is yet another group that believes that a combination of both of the prior are to blame for the symptoms.

I personally fall into the latter of these three groups, so I am not vehemently disagreeing with you, but I would have liked you to state the facts that there are varying opinions on this matter. Anyone that may be looking for more information on Morgellons should check out this blog, it has helped me immensely. http://morgellonspgpr.wordpress.com/2009/11/0...

Wishing everyone healing and blessings,
Matthew
IZO

Warren, MI

#37 Mar 6, 2010
Hi Matthew!
Maybe I stated what I said wrongly? I DID say I DO KNOW I have a MITE!! I DEFINITELY HAVE A MITE PROBLEM!!!
I have read a few things about morgellons - I don't necessarily agree that I have it. I just think I have had Scabies for sooooooo long - they just don't know WHAT to do or say anymore. NONE of the Dr's I went to were very good, anyway. They stood around kind of like with a finger in their mouths, drooling, NOT knowing WHAT to think!!!
I don't necessarily believe in all that chem-trail stuff and all that other weird stuff. I DO believe in that one critter they have learned about. It was around hundreds of millions of years ago, is back now, and no one knows WHAT kills it, not even us!!
How is your Morgellons? I a VERY interested in knowing!!!!
Please let me know!!!
I just HAD to slam Vann because "he is cured". I ONLY WISH he had suffered longer!!!!! HOW DARE HE EVEN TRY TO HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH SCABIES WHEN THERE ARE THOSE OF US WHO HAVE HAD IT FOR 2 & 3 YEARS OR MORE!!! HE HAD IT FOR A WHOLE "WHOPPING "2" MONTHS!!! WOW!! HE HAD A LOT OF CLEANING TO DO, LANDRY, ETC!!!!!!'2' MONTHS WORTH!! And the rest of us, there is NO END IN SIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS SUCH A JERK!!!
COMING ON HERE LIKE HE KNOWS IT ALL!!!! HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE "TIME" TRY THE GRAPESEED OIL, AND WHATEVER ELSE HE DID, ONLY HAVING IT FOR "2" MONTHS!!!!!!! JERK-FACE!!!!!!!!!!
LOUD MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!
SHUT UP AND MOVE ON!
I ALMOST SAID SOMETHING ELSE!
CONGRATULATIONS PATTY!!!!!!!!!!
IZO
IZO

Warren, MI

#38 Mar 6, 2010
Hey Vann,
Country Line Dancing is like "20" years old!!!!!
I/WE think/know you are a little behind in the times!!!!!
I can tell you from being diagnosed with Morgellons that using a DE PASTE DOES NOT WORK!!!!!!!!! ALL IT DOES IT DRY OUT THE "TOP" LAYER OF THE SKIN!!! IT DOES "NOT" GO AS SHALLOW/DEEP AS THE SCABIES GO!!!
THIS IS WHY I KNOW I DON'T HAVE MORGELLONS!!!!!
"IF" IT WERE TO WORK - I WOULD HAVE IT!!! IT DOESN'T WORK ON ME!
PLUS, i HAVE "SEEN" THE MITES CONING OUT OF MY SKIN NOW!!! I AN OBE OF THOSE UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE THAT SCABIES SEEMS TO LIKE!
See, you MUST have to be a likable person in order for the Scabies to stay around for awhile!
IZO
Nightmares Do Come True

United States

#39 Mar 6, 2010
Hi IZO,
No worries, I just want to keep things clear when it comes to Morgellons, that no one really knows exactly what the causes or "cure" is. Unfortunately those few scientists and doctors who are studying this affliction have really not come up with any decent answers. The whole thing is somewhat shrouded in secrecy, and most sufferers tend to keep their affliction somewhat of a secret as well. I mean who is going to believe someone that says they have fibers growing out of them, along with bugs crawling under their skin and on top of it? It is a very freaky affliction that seems straight out of a sci-fi movie, but unfortunately is very real and devastating to sufferers.

While I also believe that my Morg symptoms began with scabies, or some similar mite infestation, I do know that not every sufferer began with any kind of bug attack. Until scientists and doctors are able to isolate the exact cause, we are all kind of stuck when it comes to saying why this affliction exists. I wholeheartedly agree with the cause being from agrobacterium and chemtrails, heck you only need to watch about a dozen videos to know that this crap is bad for you. On the flip side of the coin, I know that my immune system was at a very low point, and I believe that this is the reason that the "disease" was able to get a toehold in my body.

Thankyou for asking how I am doing. I am remaining at about 80-85% better than when this began in October, thanks to the drastic measures that I took. You can read more about what I have been doing to fight this battle on this thread http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TNU... it is a relatively short thread, so you will not need hours to cover it ;) and the links there (yes, even Vann's) are extremely informative and helpful.
Whether you have Morgellons or not, I feel that getting healthy is a huge step in battling all of these afflictions mentioned on the forum!

Best of luck and Healing to you IZO,
Matthew
Yummy1210

Jackson, TN

#40 Sep 20, 2010
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
Patty,
I want to thank you and your friends for keeping my thread on Grapeseed oil + DE posted at the top of the list.
I was planning to update it only once a month to report on my condition, or just answer questions for those actually doing my treatments.
You are terrific,
Vann
Vann why haven't you posted anything since Feb 2010??? Where are you I would like some advice are you still there??? No updates, that doesn't seem good to me, maybe I should take an alternate route. Please respond.

TooYummy

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