Scabies on face and scalp?
dancesilly2

Lehigh Acres, FL

#946 Sep 6, 2014
Aw heck ya got me there Zoo. I guess my studies on air sac mites in canaries while in college doesn't qualify me at all to speak on zoonotics. And the fact that I have read every scientific journal, report and study since 2007, from Great Britain to New Guinea, including the DNA studies. I actually know more about these critters than any of the doctors I've seen so far. Just to clarify I never said that animal mites do not exist. Your premise is that they reproduce in and on humans and there is NO scientific fact that supports this. They have studied the life cycle of all the different mites and unless you have discovered a new species, these mites cannot and do not reproduce in humans. They can live on humans and bite humans and cause chaos on humans but they do not reproduce on humans. Once a human is removed from the environment, the mites resolve themselves. If they do not then another source should be investigated. I stand by my statements and I happen to be one of those menopausal women that do not respond well to the treatment btw.
Ruth

Hollywood, FL

#947 Sep 7, 2014
Here is a copy of an article discussing how pheromones and hormones play a significant role in infestation of all mammals. I think it is worth the read. It's a bit technical, though.

http://www.heartspm.com/parasitic-mite-attact...
janelp01

El Cajon, CA

#948 Sep 7, 2014
christines_crawlies wrote:
It seems the overall consensus is that doctors nowadays have vastly outdated knowledge when it comes to our lovely little mites. However, I wanted to clarify one thing before I wage all-out war on my microscopic enemies:
I have been told by every doctor that I have seen, nurses, friends, and every website on scabies I've visited that, due to acidity levels on the face and scalp, scabies just don't like it and won't take root there.
What are your experiences with this? Have you had burrows/bumps/other symptoms on these areas? Do you treat your face and scalp with the same products as the rest of your body if you do treat them? Have you been cured without treating your face and scalp?
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The last place to be invaded by them was my scalp, then a few on my forehead and face. The scalp had lumps. They were not particularly itchy. I merely gently massaged the scream, Elimate, which I had used on my body-Dr. okay-ed it. I put it on at bedtime, and slept with a plastic shower cap, then shampooed the next day.

I'm not certain if they are completely gone. I'm now going to try the organic apple cider vinegar as suggested in some posts. I remember my mother using that as a rinse when I was growing up. I'm going to get a follow-up exam, but I may have to wait for an appointment. I had to see 3 Dr's before my insurance let me see a dermatologist, and even then , he never did a scraping, which my son's UCSD dermatology specialist says is ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to classify what type of scabies it is.
soxcat

Tiverton, RI

#951 Sep 22, 2014
dancesilly2 wrote:
Aw heck ya got me there Zoo. I guess my studies on air sac mites in canaries while in college doesn't qualify me at all to speak on zoonotics. And the fact that I have read every scientific journal, report and study since 2007, from Great Britain to New Guinea, including the DNA studies. I actually know more about these critters than any of the doctors I've seen so far. Just to clarify I never said that animal mites do not exist. Your premise is that they reproduce in and on humans and there is NO scientific fact that supports this. They have studied the life cycle of all the different mites and unless you have discovered a new species, these mites cannot and do not reproduce in humans. They can live on humans and bite humans and cause chaos on humans but they do not reproduce on humans. Once a human is removed from the environment, the mites resolve themselves. If they do not then another source should be investigated. I stand by my statements and I happen to be one of those menopausal women that do not respond well to the treatment btw.
I think you hit the nail on the head. New species? Things evolve, mutate, get resistant, etc. There are many people complaining of something and no one is doing anything. All the technological changes over the last 50 years that has polluted out atmosphere not to mention immigration and war lets not even go to biowarfare. There is such a thing as a dermascope. Has anyone been able to get one put on them? This is unbelievable if not! I've done what I'm suppose to do in this country what the F..k am I paying for!
map

Germany

#954 Dec 7, 2014
janelp01 wrote:
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The last place to be invaded by them was my scalp, then a few on my forehead and face. The scalp had lumps. They were not particularly itchy. I merely gently massaged the scream, Elimate, which I had used on my body-Dr. okay-ed it. I put it on at bedtime, and slept with a plastic shower cap, then shampooed the next day.
I'm not certain if they are completely gone. I'm now going to try the organic apple cider vinegar as suggested in some posts. I remember my mother using that as a rinse when I was growing up. I'm going to get a follow-up exam, but I may have to wait for an appointment. I had to see 3 Dr's before my insurance let me see a dermatologist, and even then , he never did a scraping, which my son's UCSD dermatology specialist says is ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to classify what type of scabies it is.
I have scabies on my face (as well as on my body). I have crusts on end of my nose, on forehead, side of cheeks and diagnosis was returned every time by dermatologist - no scabies on face. I then asked them to do a scraping - also came back negative.....its not always easy to pick up on slides and misdiagnoses are legend..... however I got sick of them telling me I was a psycho and so told them to read up.... sure enough... even with bad infestation scabies scrapings do not always confirm absence or presence of mites as they can burrow deeply into skin and mites are sometimes so deep that to get one (to see under microscope) you would literally have to dig into it with a needle (which they dont do....) So I treated with Spregal, vinegar and sulfur soap and Infectoscab (various meds and they run out and not all (Spregal) avail in Germany. What happened (one month ago since treatment) is that slowly but surely mites came to surface (looked like burn on side and end of nose and single pin prick or commonly two pinprick scabs together on cheeks)., which I had to apply stuff to everyday. Layer by layer, as especially on nose it was crusted (noted over last year my nose felt a bit numb but I never saw any marks - it just itched all the time...... So now I have treated it there is clear and unmistakeable scabies mite infection (as it is often only when they are treated that u can see them clearly). And..... when I pull off the pieces of skin (washing hands thereafter of course) for next treatment u can see the tiny black mites. Although please note, some areas are scarred7 where scabies were but have moved on and so u wont always see black fleck but sometimes just a red lump. On hands and legs and back I have odd outbreaks which go away for a while after treatment but back right now and site of scabies where infected looks like comet's tail with sandpaper feel. Important when that happens have hot bleach bath to open pores, scrub them and then apply whichever scabicide u using immediately thereafter. Going off the subject of the face a bit... Careful because if u are using facecream like me (for wrinkles) u can spread the mites to other parts of your face as fingers are the worst for spreading it around! What I do is add a little Neem Oil to my cream inbetween treatments with scabicide. Good luck and remember General doctors (and even some dermatologists) are sometimes not able to make correct diagnosis or are sometimes ignorant of current treatments or simply have never come across a case of scabies since they left med school. The first GP I went to in Germany (after moving from Singapore) had been in his practice for forty years and had (by his own admission) never seen a single case of scabies himself - although he knew of its existence! PS. I forgot, also have on scalp but because I colour my hair and shampoo has Hydrogen Peroxide in it - I have scabies free periods for a while after shampooing until the itch comes back (around about the time my roots need colouring again!) Good Luck!
map

Germany

#955 Dec 7, 2014
FRED wrote:
They can also be transmitted from dog to human. From human to cat. From cat to human. They are zoonotic. Use this word fred. You never use zoonotic dumb fck.
Stop disseminated harmful and incorrect information. Scabies on dogs and cats (mange) is another mite altogether (although similar) and there is no cross pollination between humans or animals, although infected animals in close contact with owners (sleeping on beds etc). or in veterinary practice) can result in a form of pruritis (rash with itching) which is easy to treat with anti-allergy tabs or cortisone creams. Humans also cant give animals our form of Scabies. The only possible link is that, like bed linen, if dogs have close contact with infected owners, who pat them all the time or who are in contact with infected linen - they MAY carry mites on their fur which are then deposited on bed etc... So keep pets clean and washed and groomed and preferably in their own warm comfy bed! Please Fred or whoever else writes garbage, think about the consequences of your incorrect advice for which there is loads of scientific evidence to the contrary!
map

Germany

#956 Dec 7, 2014
dancesilly2 wrote:
Aw heck ya got me there Zoo. I guess my studies on air sac mites in canaries while in college doesn't qualify me at all to speak on zoonotics. And the fact that I have read every scientific journal, report and study since 2007, from Great Britain to New Guinea, including the DNA studies. I actually know more about these critters than any of the doctors I've seen so far. Just to clarify I never said that animal mites do not exist. Your premise is that they reproduce in and on humans and there is NO scientific fact that supports this. They have studied the life cycle of all the different mites and unless you have discovered a new species, these mites cannot and do not reproduce in humans. They can live on humans and bite humans and cause chaos on humans but they do not reproduce on humans. Once a human is removed from the environment, the mites resolve themselves. If they do not then another source should be investigated. I stand by my statements and I happen to be one of those menopausal women that do not respond well to the treatment btw.
At last! Some one who know what they are talking about. For your info as well... Studies conducted with homeless persons on the street or elderly pet owners with immune deficiency (who have terrible scabies, including in some cases Norwegian (crusted) scabies ) who love and look after their dogs properly (not talking about street dogs here or neglected dogs which may already have animal specific mites).... repeat those who look after their dogs properly, practice good hygiene but who battle with scabies have animals (cats and dogs) which are free both of human AND animal scabies - almost without exception. So the facts argue: that not only do animals NOT transmit their SCABIES MITES to us (asu correctly assert) but there is hard evidence that there are no known cases where humans have infected their healthy animals with HUMAN scabies. In other words, if there WAS cross transmission and animals and humans could infect each other, all dogs with scabies would have owners with scabies and vice versa, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE! PS. I agree that doctors are sadly misinformed or not exposed to real cases and those that suffer often know the most (its our own skin after all!) Good Luck.
map

Germany

#957 Dec 7, 2014
dancesilly2 wrote:
Aw heck ya got me there Zoo. I guess my studies on air sac mites in canaries while in college doesn't qualify me at all to speak on zoonotics. And the fact that I have read every scientific journal, report and study since 2007, from Great Britain to New Guinea, including the DNA studies. I actually know more about these critters than any of the doctors I've seen so far. Just to clarify I never said that animal mites do not exist. Your premise is that they reproduce in and on humans and there is NO scientific fact that supports this. They have studied the life cycle of all the different mites and unless you have discovered a new species, these mites cannot and do not reproduce in humans. They can live on humans and bite humans and cause chaos on humans but they do not reproduce on humans. Once a human is removed from the environment, the mites resolve themselves. If they do not then another source should be investigated. I stand by my statements and I happen to be one of those menopausal women that do not respond well to the treatment btw.
And... before I go to bed with my doggies - another fact for the ignorant to take cognisance of : Research with Vets and dog handlers show very little incidence of Human scabies and those few that have scabies have been known to have been infected by other humans - so if all those dogs and cats were cross transmitting there would be a huge amount of animal handlers with scabies (and there are not!)

Since: Dec 14

Location hidden

#958 Dec 7, 2014
map wrote:
<quoted text>I have scabies on my face (as well as on my body). I have crusts on end of my nose, on forehead, side of cheeks and diagnosis was returned every time by dermatologist - no scabies on face. I then asked them to do a scraping - also came back negative.....its not always easy to pick up on slides and misdiagnoses are legend..... however I got sick of them telling me I was a psycho and so told them to read up.... sure enough... even with bad infestation scabies scrapings do not always confirm absence or presence of mites as they can burrow deeply into skin and mites are sometimes so deep that to get one (to see under microscope) you would literally have to dig into it with a needle (which they dont do....) So I treated with Spregal, vinegar and sulfur soap and Infectoscab (various meds and they run out and not all (Spregal) avail in Germany. What happened (one month ago since treatment) is that slowly but surely mites came to surface (looked like burn on side and end of nose and single pin prick or commonly two pinprick scabs together on cheeks)., which I had to apply stuff to everyday. Layer by layer, as especially on nose it was crusted (noted over last year my nose felt a bit numb but I never saw any marks - it just itched all the time...... So now I have treated it there is clear and unmistakeable scabies mite infection (as it is often only when they are treated that u can see them clearly). And..... when I pull off the pieces of skin (washing hands thereafter of course) for next treatment u can see the tiny black mites. Although please note, some areas are scarred7 where scabies were but have moved on and so u wont always see black fleck but sometimes just a red lump. On hands and legs and back I have odd outbreaks which go away for a while after treatment but back right now and site of scabies where infected looks like comet's tail with sandpaper feel. Important when that happens have hot bleach bath to open pores, scrub them and then apply whichever scabicide u using immediately thereafter. Going off the subject of the face a bit... Careful because if u are using facecream like me (for wrinkles) u can spread the mites to other parts of your face as fingers are the worst for spreading it around! What I do is add a little Neem Oil to my cream inbetween treatments with scabicide. Good luck and remember General doctors (and even some dermatologists) are sometimes not able to make correct diagnosis or are sometimes ignorant of current treatments or simply have never come across a case of scabies since they left med school. The first GP I went to in Germany (after moving from Singapore) had been in his practice for forty years and had (by his own admission) never seen a single case of scabies himself - although he knew of its existence! PS. I forgot, also have on scalp but because I colour my hair and shampoo has Hydrogen Peroxide in it - I have scabies free periods for a while after shampooing until the itch comes back (around about the time my roots need colouring again!) Good Luck!
We have similar symptoms. Wishing you good luck with your treatment. I am still looking for a solution to this nightmare. So far nothing works.
marylandscabies

Glenwood, MD

#959 Dec 10, 2014
betseyB wrote:
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We have similar symptoms. Wishing you good luck with your treatment. I am still looking for a solution to this nightmare. So far nothing works.
You just described me --- I am on ivermectin for two weeks everyday - if I put gel in my hair and let it dry and then sprinkle baking soda on scalp I don't get bitten ---but for how long will I have to do this --- it is going into the 5th month -- still with all the cleaning, washing, vacuuming . When will it end - it is better but a long way from done -- this includes me (60 yr old female, sisters - 55 and 57 and 86 yr old father . We have been to 6 different doctors - they know nothing
homeless

Europe

#960 Dec 26, 2014
I have had itching for years, and tried scabies treatments ,lotions and creams. They ease things for a week or three but then they come back stronger than ever.I am on disability, and don't have any medical coverage,or money I need help and treatment can any body recommend any thing please. located in SATX.

Since: Oct 14

Houston, TX

#961 Dec 26, 2014
homeless wrote:
I have had itching for years, and tried scabies treatments ,lotions and creams. They ease things for a week or three but then they come back stronger than ever.I am on disability, and don't have any medical coverage,or money I need help and treatment can any body recommend any thing please. located in SATX.
Go to Walmart and see if you. Can find sulfer soap( by the Mexican skin care products) it cost about $2.67 and wash daily with it, if nothing else it'll provide some relief.
homeless

United States

#962 Dec 26, 2014
Depressed and anxious wrote:
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Go to Walmart and see if you. Can find sulfer soap( by the Mexican skin care products) it cost about $2.67 and wash daily with it, if nothing else it'll provide some relief.
Say bro I have tried every thing and silver do t do i . silver baths, silver ointment bullshit take your silver and shove it!

Since: Oct 14

Houston, TX

#963 Dec 26, 2014
homeless wrote:
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Say bro I have tried every thing and silver do t do i . silver baths, silver ointment bullshit take your silver and shove it!
Well shit bro I was just trying to help .you sounded desperate my bad , sorry I bothered.
homeless

United States

#964 Dec 26, 2014
Depressed and anxious wrote:
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Well shit bro I was just trying to help .you sounded desperate my bad , sorry I bothered.
sulfer will not help get educated do some research .
essentials for scabies

Chicago, IL

#966 Dec 26, 2014
bumpyhead wrote:
i have bumps like pimples all over my scalp. they are itchy and painful. my 3 year old went to dermo and said she had scabies. i think i have a hotel in my hair. whats the deal with oil i put oil in my hair what do people use for the head
I'm a massage therapist and got scabies from a client. As an aromatherapist, what has worked well is 10 drops each of menthol, lavender and peppermint in a 30 ml bottle of neem oil. Spread it on bumps, itchy areas as often as needed. They definately get on scalp and face. I'm almost past all this mess. Hope it helps!
upset

Clarksburg, WV

#967 Jan 18, 2015
i was diagnosed with scabies the other day (at a med express/fast care type thing, i don't have a primary care physician) and already it's messing me up. i did my first cream treatment last night/this morning but the rash/bumps/mites have spread today so i'm unsure if it worked? i'm one of those people who also has it on their face/probably scalp too and it's spread to right up against one of my eyes and i'm really worried about that, esp since it spread after i did the treatment. i have enough of the cream to do a second treatment (in a week, right?) so i'm waiting for that i guess.

also, i have a job in which i do come in contact with people but not a lot (i clean at a grocery store) and while i called off work today i'm unsure if it's okay for me to go back (even though i /need/ to go back)?

i still have no idea where i got it and that's messing me up too but.

does anyone have any tips?
Peta

Florissant, MO

#970 Jan 21, 2015
upset wrote:
i was diagnosed with scabies the other day (at a med express/fast care type thing, i don't have a primary care physician) and already it's messing me up. i did my first cream treatment last night/this morning but the rash/bumps/mites have spread today so i'm unsure if it worked? i'm one of those people who also has it on their face/probably scalp too and it's spread to right up against one of my eyes and i'm really worried about that, esp since it spread after i did the treatment. i have enough of the cream to do a second treatment (in a week, right?) so i'm waiting for that i guess.
also, i have a job in which i do come in contact with people but not a lot (i clean at a grocery store) and while i called off work today i'm unsure if it's okay for me to go back (even though i /need/ to go back)?
i still have no idea where i got it and that's messing me up too but.
does anyone have any tips?
Tea Tree Oil and Vodka 50/50. Put in a spray bottle and spray all over and often for two weeks. After that twice a day for the next two weeks, and every night for two more weeks. It works fast too. Good luck.
dancesilly2

Cape Coral, FL

#971 Jan 21, 2015
homeless wrote:
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sulfer will not help get educated do some research .
Actually I used sulfur soap and tea tree oil along with the prescribed treatment (and also for maintenance afterwards), and it DOES help. It will kill mites on your skin, but not below the skin. I used sulfur soap on my scalp and hair and it helped there where the cream didn't get to. I would not recommend it as you only treatment, but in addition to the premethryn cream and ivermectin. Remember, scabies is as old as man. They treated scabies with sulfur and tea tree oil long before they had the prescription stuff and it worked, but it had to be used continually over a long period of time to get all the mites. Therefore that is why they called it the 'seven year itch'. So maybe YOU need to do some research.
dancesilly2

Cape Coral, FL

#972 Jan 21, 2015
upset wrote:
i was diagnosed with scabies the other day (at a med express/fast care type thing, i don't have a primary care physician) and already it's messing me up. i did my first cream treatment last night/this morning but the rash/bumps/mites have spread today so i'm unsure if it worked? i'm one of those people who also has it on their face/probably scalp too and it's spread to right up against one of my eyes and i'm really worried about that, esp since it spread after i did the treatment. i have enough of the cream to do a second treatment (in a week, right?) so i'm waiting for that i guess.
also, i have a job in which i do come in contact with people but not a lot (i clean at a grocery store) and while i called off work today i'm unsure if it's okay for me to go back (even though i /need/ to go back)?
i still have no idea where i got it and that's messing me up too but.
does anyone have any tips?
The cream should have killed the mites on your skin and below the skin, but won't kill the eggs. The eggs take about a week to hatch. Personally I didn't wait the whole week. I retreated half way through the week and again at the seventh day. Make sure you put the cream ON YOUR FACE AND SCALP. Do not follow the directions on the tube as it tells you 'from the neck down'. I got scabies in my hair/scalp, on my face, on my lips and my ears. Also bathe in tea tree oil and use sulfur soap, every night. Do this for three months after treatment. And make sure you clean everything, all bedding, furniture, car interior, towels, clothes etc. Spray furniture with mite killing insecticide and vacuum. Make sure your laundry is washed in HOT HOT water and use bleach if you can on whites. For color clothes use borax detergent. You will still feel your immune system response even after the mites are killed. The itchyness continues well after treatment. If you feel you need another treatment, do it. I did about three or four. Do not spot treat. When treating yourself do your whole body. By the time you start itching in an area, the mite might have already moved. Spot treating will not help. It's been a year and I'm finally mite free. It takes time so be patient. Avoid contact with other people, and I mean direct contact. Typically mites are transmitted through touch but also can be transmitted via clothes, towels and bedding. Good luck.

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