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#706 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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My hair got real thin also. They lay their egg sac on the hair when they hatch they seem to eat through the hair
Yes she had red bumps and like a red rash and bits.
I was bitten all over. And yes you will get itchy as the dead stuff gets pushed out of your skin.
Tracks, it was like they went nuts before dying. This was a day or two after the medication.
I also found that not eating for many hours before and after the medication make it work a lot better.
So I got up at at three AM and took mine.
Very interesting! Thanks again.
I have there pimple looking things which I think are bites but they don't itch. I asked my husband to look through my scalp and he doesn't see anything. I have been putting sulfur 8 on my scalp just about everyday. Last time I took iver pill it was Sat in the am. I had a little crawling nothing serious. I did have grapefruit juice throughout the weekend. All of a sudden on Tuesday that's when I felt activity. Got a rash on my arm, and woke up with a tiny track. Thanks again!
Emma

Concord, CA

#707 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes many Doctors allow only one dose of Lindane. I had the Mites to give the Doctor and he was an expert and told us yes we can take as many as 4 to 6 treatments of Lindane he also gave me 5 pills per treatment of Stromectol and we stayed on Stromectol for like months. But for us it was the DE that really helped because our mites could live 6 weeks off the host so we needed to make sure that each one that left the host died. When my wife shaved her hair we found the last hive and Lindane killed that off. Funny we thought we were getting down to her scalp but with her thick hair we could not get them. She had her hair colored many times one would think that would do it but it didn't. She had to shave it and that exposed the main hive. That's was some war. Just over a year now. 2 to 3 months bit free slowly cleaning and Unboxing our cloths.
Langoliers, Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. God bless you for that.
I ended up buying Aven 40x microscopic camera. I spent some good hours looking for pathogens on my scalp but so far did not get lucky. I was just able to see some black specks on my son's hand. He has very dry tracks and bruises.
My plan is to take pics like your ones and show them to my dermatologist in order to get prescriptions for Stromectol and Lindane. Now I' m afraid that 40x magnification (goes to 200x if enlarge) is not enough to take meaningful pics for the doc. This is my 6th dermatologist. We keep getting diagnosed with allergic dermatitis (they say that mites don't go on the scalp or face).
Grateful for your posts and suggestions!

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#708 Feb 2, 2013
"RODENT and BIRD MITES (Liponyssoides sanguineus, Laelaps echidnina, Ornithonyssus spp., Dermanyssus gallinae, Cheyletiella spp.)

Rodent and bird mites may bite people when their hosts die or abandon their nests. Three types of rodent mites readily bite humans: the house mouse mite (Liponyssoides saguineus), spiny rat mite (Laelaps echidnina) and tropical rat mite (Ornithonyssus bacoti). The house mouse mite prefers to suck the blood of mice, but also will bite rats and people, often causing a rash around the bite. They prefer warm places (e.g., around pipes and furnaces) where rodents live. The spiny rat mite feeds on rats at night and hides by day in cracks and crevices around rat nests and resting places. The tropical rat mite’s bite is painful and causes skin irritation and itching.

Mites that normally infest birds also bite people. The northern fowl mite (Ornithonyssus sylviarum) and chicken mite (Dermanyssus gallinae) primarily infest chickens, but also pigeons, starlings and sparrows. The northern fowl mite cannot survive for more than a month off its host, while the chicken mite hides in cracks and crevices near bird nests during the day and feeds by night. Cheyletiella mites infest both birds and mammals. They may prey on other mites and insects living on the host’s skin. They can cause a mange-like condition in pets, and itching in people who handle infested pets. They do not stay long on humans."

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#709 Feb 2, 2013
Over the past two weeks we’ve had two customers dealing with rat mites. In both cases the bites seemed to come out of no where.

The first case involved an elderly couple in Laguna Niguel that recently had pest control work done by a local pest company. The pest companies activity seemed to stir up the rats and the couple began to experience small red marks on their skin, randomly, over their entire body. When we were called out to find a solution we were more than prepared to do the work since we’ve dealt with rat mites many times in the past. After cleaning the entire attic and removing the insulation we decontaminated utilizing a procedure that would not only kill bacteria, and viruses, but also any parasites in the attic as well. We also decontaminated the bedrooms for any rat mites. The homeowners moved out for the weekend and were able to move back in the following week.

In the next instance a couple from Hancock Park was enduring an infestation over a long period of time. One day they found one of the mites on their skin and examined the parasite under a microscope. The couple found that they were infested with “Tropical Rat Mites”.

Tropical Rat Mite

While they weren’t very concerned with the bites on themselves, that came out of nowhere, the couple recently had a beautiful baby girl and needed to protect her health. Again, we performed a full attic cleaning service that included removing all the insulation, cleaning up the droppings, and decontaminating the attic. We also found the crawlspace to be infested. We cleaned and decontaminated the area in order to get rid of the rat mites. After the attic was cleaned and decontaminated we came back the next day to install new insulation. The most difficult part of the job was the attic being only four feet high, imagine working in that all day.

In both cases we were able to not only get rid of all the rat contamination by cleaning up the droppings and removing the insulation, but also to get rid of the rat mites by properly decontaminating the affected areas.

The following is information about rat mites from the Illinois Department of Health:
Rodent and bird mites may bite people when their hosts die or abandon their nests. Three types of rodent mites readily bite humans: the house mouse mite (Liponyssoides saguineus), spiny rat mite (Laelaps echidnina) and tropical rat mite (Ornithonyssus bacoti). The house mouse mite prefers to suck the blood of mice, but also will bite rats and people, often causing a rash around the bite. They prefer warm places (e.g., around pipes and furnaces) where rodents live. The spiny rat mite feeds on rats at night and hides by day in cracks and crevices around rat nests and resting places. The tropical rat mite’s bite is painful and causes skin irritation and itching.
misery_in_au

Cobbitty, Australia

#710 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers, are you saying that you woke up with these recently, like yesterday? Or were you speaking of the past infection?

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#711 Feb 2, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
Langoliers, are you saying that you woke up with these recently, like yesterday? Or were you speaking of the past infection?
No just copied some articles on the rat mite.
misery_in_au

Sydney, Australia

#712 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
No just copied some articles on the rat mite.
whew! was worried you had your unwanted visitors back. thank god you're ok still. gives me hope.
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#713 Feb 3, 2013
Virtual Scabies wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Langoliers,
Usually doctors will not prescribe months and months of Lindane treatment. Since it is toxic, I don't see any doctor prescribing anymore than about 2 refills. Also, Stromectol ivermectin is also prescribed with caution and not usually for 4 months. Maybe 3 refills, if you are lucky.
Shaving your head will help, but it is not necessary. Diatomacious Earth did absolutely nothing to help our situation. But every situation is different, and I have read many good things about DE.
If used too often it may cause lung damage, though. It is a very fine dust..
It's not the fine dust, you need to become educated. It is that all DE has silica in it. If you breath in flour made from wheat your body can metabolize it. Your body can't metabolize the ground up ,essentially glass, that is DE.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

Silica

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

this is the kind of advice you will get from lying idiots like Langoliers.

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#714 Feb 3, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
<quoted text>whew! was worried you had your unwanted visitors back. thank god you're ok still. gives me hope.
Ya sorry about that. After your post I realized I should have said these were info articles on the rat and bird mites.

I'm bad.

Thanks for waking me up.

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#715 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the fine dust, you need to become educated. It is that all DE has silica in it. If you breath in flour made from wheat your body can metabolize it. Your body can't metabolize the ground up ,essentially glass, that is DE.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

Silica

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

this is the kind of advice you will get from lying idiots like Langoliers.
Not doing to good on your sulfur soap?

I've can post thousands of articles on the safety of DE.

"Food-Grade Diatomaceous earth comes in the form of a chalky powder, and is the natural fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. These diatom particles are very small and sharp – but only harmful to the small exoskeletons of insects. Insects cannot become immune to its action, as it is a mechanical killer – not a chemical one. Because it is like a light dust, it easily clings to the bodies of insects as they walk and crawl over it. The tiny diatom particles then cut the waxy coating of insects and they eventually dry out and die of dehydration within 48 hours. It is an all-natural product that is so safe, it can be sprinkled around your vegetable patch, or rubbed right into your dog’s fur. Non-food-grade diatomaceous earth is dangerous and should be avoided."

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#716 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the fine dust, you need to become educated. It is that all DE has silica in it. If you breath in flour made from wheat your body can metabolize it. Your body can't metabolize the ground up ,essentially glass, that is DE.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

Silica

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

this is the kind of advice you will get from lying idiots like Langoliers.
"This treatment is not a chemical, so it does not break down or become less effective over time. You only need to reapply it when the weather washes away or blows away the diatomaceous earth. During spring and summer, when heavy rainstorms occur frequently and bugs are active, it's a good idea to treat your yard once a month or once every two months for maximum effectiveness.

This natural insect killer can be sown by hand, or applied using a spreader. To save time, you can mix DE with fertilizer or seed and do a single application over a broad area.

DE is pet safe and will not harm family members with weak immune systems or chemical sensitivity. It's a powerful non-toxic alternative to pesticides.

This product is safe for your pets and your family.

The Environmental Health Coalition refers to Diatomaceous Earth as a safe home product on their fact sheet about safe household cleaners and indoor pest control.
Professor Stuart B. Hill at McGill University in Canada describes Diatomaceous Earth as non-toxic, and feeling like talc when you touch it. He says that if you are going to apply large quantities, you should wear a face mask to avoid inhaling it. However, he mentions that inhaling common road dust is probably more harmful that inhaling Diatomaceous Earth."
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#717 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Not doing to good on your sulfur soap?
I've can post thousands of articles on the safety of DE.
"Food-Grade Diatomaceous earth comes in the form of a chalky powder, and is the natural fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. These diatom particles are very small and sharp – but only harmful to the small exoskeletons of insects. Insects cannot become immune to its action, as it is a mechanical killer – not a chemical one. Because it is like a light dust, it easily clings to the bodies of insects as they walk and crawl over it. The tiny diatom particles then cut the waxy coating of insects and they eventually dry out and die of dehydration within 48 hours. It is an all-natural product that is so safe, it can be sprinkled around your vegetable patch, or rubbed right into your dog’s fur. Non-food-grade diatomaceous earth is dangerous and should be avoided."
What I posted is from NIOSH and the MSDS not some bullsh** from EHOW, but an idoit like you wouldn't see the difference.
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#718 Feb 3, 2013
You rang?

Since: Apr 12

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#719 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>What I posted is from NIOSH and the MSDS not some bullsh** from EHOW, but an idoit like you wouldn't see the difference.
Hide

Wikipedia:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_e...

Safety considerations

Today's common DE formulations are safe to use as they are predominantly made up of amorphous silica and contain little or no crystalline silica.

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#720 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>What I posted is from NIOSH and the MSDS not some bullsh** from EHOW, but an idoit like you wouldn't see the difference.
"Food grade diatomaceous earth is EPA approved to be mixed with grains to control mealworms and other pests and has been exempted from tolerance requirements as an inert, inactive ingredient in chemical pesticides. Diatomaceous earth is EPA approved against indoor and outdoor crawling insects. Diatomaceous earth is USDA approved as an anti-caking agent for flour and animal feed. Diatomaceous earth is FDA approved for internal and external use and has a rating of Food Chemical Codex Grade. "
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#721 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hide
Wikipedia:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_e...
Safety considerations
Today's common DE formulations are safe to use as they are predominantly made up of amorphous silica and contain little or no crystalline silica.
I'm pretty sure you didn't know what amorphous meant and probably still don't. Here is a science lesson for you. All glass is amorphous, it other words it is neither solid or liquid . If you go find a window from a 100 year old house and measure the thickness at the bottom it will be thicker because it flowed down over the hundred years. If you break that window however it would come in handy to cut you. The whole idea behind DE is that it scratches the mites coating off and then they dehydrate and die. When these particles get in the lungs then your body identifies them as foreign matter because your body can not metabolize them. Then your body tries to isolate them to protect the body by growing tissue around those particles and your lungs fill with tiny ireversable tumors.
That is called interstitial lung disease.

You can go google anything you want but the bottom line is you are full of sh.

Not to mention you pulled those mite pictures off an entomology website and lied about the camera.

You are not cured you don't even know what you have,I've been reading your stupid posts for a long time.

http://rense.com/general74/morg4.htm

Since: Apr 12

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#722 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>I'm pretty sure you didn't know what amorphous meant and probably still don't. Here is a science lesson for you. All glass is amorphous, it other words it is neither solid or liquid . If you go find a window from a 100 year old house and measure the thickness at the bottom it will be thicker because it flowed down over the hundred years. If you break that window however it would come in handy to cut you. The whole idea behind DE is that it scratches the mites coating off and then they dehydrate and die. When these particles get in the lungs then your body identifies them as foreign matter because your body can not metabolize them. Then your body tries to isolate them to protect the body by growing tissue around those particles and your lungs fill with tiny ireversable tumors.
That is called interstitial lung disease.

You can go google anything you want but the bottom line is you are full of sh.

Not to mention you pulled those mite pictures off an entomology website and lied about the camera.

You are not cured you don't even know what you have,I've been reading your stupid posts for a long time.

http://rense.com/general74/morg4.htm
Your post are nothing more then proof positive that you are who you claim you are not. Your attacks started when you tried to lure people over to your web page to sell your sulfur soaps and tree oils. I am selling nothing, I have shown that the item I've used are perfectly safe for kids and pets with nothing for me to gain. Which leaves your products out of the loop.

You would be better off selling DE then trying to spread lies about it on here when it is a real life saver against the mites and helping those that really need the help.

Attack the mites not us.

"IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ONLY NATURAL DIATOMACEOUS EARTH BE USED FOR INSECT CONTROL. This noncrystalline silica is not a hazard as the human body apparently can dissolve it. " "Silicosis refers to lung contamination and irritation by crystalline of free silica (Si02). Crystalline describes the orientation of the Si02 molecules which occur in a fixed pattern in contrast to the non periodic, random molecular arrangement defined as amorphous. "
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#723 Feb 3, 2013
Virtual Scabies wrote:
You rang?
I asked you....
You rang?
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#724 Feb 3, 2013
The thing that I would add is that you spent a whole month on this forum talking about your long red track marks and instructing anyone who would listen as to exactly what they were.

You seem to be getting used to the google so I challenge you to go find an entomology website or a real valid medical website, not some bunch of nuts like birdmites.org , that mentions anything about those.

You will be able to find morgellons forums where the people are talking about having them though.

The bottom line is that you come here to feed your need for drama and attention and really just need to shut up.

Since: May 12

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#725 Feb 3, 2013
If anyone wants to message me at lotus fan and give me their email address I have a word file that I have prepared just for the sufferers here. It explains in details not only what you need to do to aproach this infection but also how to proceed for optimal health for the rest of your life.

Even you Joddy, I don't hold grudges against anyone.

I did this because I am sick of reposting stuff that gets lost or attracts the attention of people with a permethrin induced bug up their as**s.

It is very complete , you will have all you need and won't need to ask anything.

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