Scabies on face and scalp?
misery_in_au

Sydney, Australia

#712 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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No just copied some articles on the rat mite.
whew! was worried you had your unwanted visitors back. thank god you're ok still. gives me hope.
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#713 Feb 3, 2013
Virtual Scabies wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Langoliers,
Usually doctors will not prescribe months and months of Lindane treatment. Since it is toxic, I don't see any doctor prescribing anymore than about 2 refills. Also, Stromectol ivermectin is also prescribed with caution and not usually for 4 months. Maybe 3 refills, if you are lucky.
Shaving your head will help, but it is not necessary. Diatomacious Earth did absolutely nothing to help our situation. But every situation is different, and I have read many good things about DE.
If used too often it may cause lung damage, though. It is a very fine dust..
It's not the fine dust, you need to become educated. It is that all DE has silica in it. If you breath in flour made from wheat your body can metabolize it. Your body can't metabolize the ground up ,essentially glass, that is DE.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

Silica

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

this is the kind of advice you will get from lying idiots like Langoliers.

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#714 Feb 3, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
<quoted text>whew! was worried you had your unwanted visitors back. thank god you're ok still. gives me hope.
Ya sorry about that. After your post I realized I should have said these were info articles on the rat and bird mites.

I'm bad.

Thanks for waking me up.

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#715 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the fine dust, you need to become educated. It is that all DE has silica in it. If you breath in flour made from wheat your body can metabolize it. Your body can't metabolize the ground up ,essentially glass, that is DE.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

Silica

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

this is the kind of advice you will get from lying idiots like Langoliers.
Not doing to good on your sulfur soap?

I've can post thousands of articles on the safety of DE.

"Food-Grade Diatomaceous earth comes in the form of a chalky powder, and is the natural fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. These diatom particles are very small and sharp – but only harmful to the small exoskeletons of insects. Insects cannot become immune to its action, as it is a mechanical killer – not a chemical one. Because it is like a light dust, it easily clings to the bodies of insects as they walk and crawl over it. The tiny diatom particles then cut the waxy coating of insects and they eventually dry out and die of dehydration within 48 hours. It is an all-natural product that is so safe, it can be sprinkled around your vegetable patch, or rubbed right into your dog’s fur. Non-food-grade diatomaceous earth is dangerous and should be avoided."

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#716 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the fine dust, you need to become educated. It is that all DE has silica in it. If you breath in flour made from wheat your body can metabolize it. Your body can't metabolize the ground up ,essentially glass, that is DE.

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php...

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/resp//risks...

Silica

"Silica, also known as silicon dioxide, is the most common mineral on earth. Inhaling dusts that contain crystalline forms of silica can cause a fibrosing interstitial lung disease called silicosis. Silicosis usually takes at least 10 years after exposure to develop. However, it can develop more quickly, especially after large exposures. Quartz is a common type of crystalline silica and is a large component of many types of rock. Inhalation exposure can occur in many kinds of work, including tunneling, quarrying, mining, construction, roadway repair and demolition, sandblasting or any type of work that breaks up quartz-containing rock. Cristobalite exposure can occur in foundry work as a result of heating amorphous silica. In addition to causing silicosis, crystalline silica exposure has been associated with pulmonary function impairment and COPD. Silica has also been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as a known human carcinogen. Crystalline silica is thought to damage lung tissue in large part as a result of oxidant mechanisms, with freshly fractured crystalline silica is being more potent than aged materials. Silica-induced diseases can be prevented by reducing exposures. It is encouraging that deaths from silicosis have fallen from more than 1060 in 1968 to less than 170 in 2005."

this is the kind of advice you will get from lying idiots like Langoliers.
"This treatment is not a chemical, so it does not break down or become less effective over time. You only need to reapply it when the weather washes away or blows away the diatomaceous earth. During spring and summer, when heavy rainstorms occur frequently and bugs are active, it's a good idea to treat your yard once a month or once every two months for maximum effectiveness.

This natural insect killer can be sown by hand, or applied using a spreader. To save time, you can mix DE with fertilizer or seed and do a single application over a broad area.

DE is pet safe and will not harm family members with weak immune systems or chemical sensitivity. It's a powerful non-toxic alternative to pesticides.

This product is safe for your pets and your family.

The Environmental Health Coalition refers to Diatomaceous Earth as a safe home product on their fact sheet about safe household cleaners and indoor pest control.
Professor Stuart B. Hill at McGill University in Canada describes Diatomaceous Earth as non-toxic, and feeling like talc when you touch it. He says that if you are going to apply large quantities, you should wear a face mask to avoid inhaling it. However, he mentions that inhaling common road dust is probably more harmful that inhaling Diatomaceous Earth."
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#717 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Not doing to good on your sulfur soap?
I've can post thousands of articles on the safety of DE.
"Food-Grade Diatomaceous earth comes in the form of a chalky powder, and is the natural fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. These diatom particles are very small and sharp – but only harmful to the small exoskeletons of insects. Insects cannot become immune to its action, as it is a mechanical killer – not a chemical one. Because it is like a light dust, it easily clings to the bodies of insects as they walk and crawl over it. The tiny diatom particles then cut the waxy coating of insects and they eventually dry out and die of dehydration within 48 hours. It is an all-natural product that is so safe, it can be sprinkled around your vegetable patch, or rubbed right into your dog’s fur. Non-food-grade diatomaceous earth is dangerous and should be avoided."
What I posted is from NIOSH and the MSDS not some bullsh** from EHOW, but an idoit like you wouldn't see the difference.
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#718 Feb 3, 2013
You rang?

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#719 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>What I posted is from NIOSH and the MSDS not some bullsh** from EHOW, but an idoit like you wouldn't see the difference.
Hide

Wikipedia:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_e...

Safety considerations

Today's common DE formulations are safe to use as they are predominantly made up of amorphous silica and contain little or no crystalline silica.

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#720 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>What I posted is from NIOSH and the MSDS not some bullsh** from EHOW, but an idoit like you wouldn't see the difference.
"Food grade diatomaceous earth is EPA approved to be mixed with grains to control mealworms and other pests and has been exempted from tolerance requirements as an inert, inactive ingredient in chemical pesticides. Diatomaceous earth is EPA approved against indoor and outdoor crawling insects. Diatomaceous earth is USDA approved as an anti-caking agent for flour and animal feed. Diatomaceous earth is FDA approved for internal and external use and has a rating of Food Chemical Codex Grade. "
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#721 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hide
Wikipedia:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_e...
Safety considerations
Today's common DE formulations are safe to use as they are predominantly made up of amorphous silica and contain little or no crystalline silica.
I'm pretty sure you didn't know what amorphous meant and probably still don't. Here is a science lesson for you. All glass is amorphous, it other words it is neither solid or liquid . If you go find a window from a 100 year old house and measure the thickness at the bottom it will be thicker because it flowed down over the hundred years. If you break that window however it would come in handy to cut you. The whole idea behind DE is that it scratches the mites coating off and then they dehydrate and die. When these particles get in the lungs then your body identifies them as foreign matter because your body can not metabolize them. Then your body tries to isolate them to protect the body by growing tissue around those particles and your lungs fill with tiny ireversable tumors.
That is called interstitial lung disease.

You can go google anything you want but the bottom line is you are full of sh.

Not to mention you pulled those mite pictures off an entomology website and lied about the camera.

You are not cured you don't even know what you have,I've been reading your stupid posts for a long time.

http://rense.com/general74/morg4.htm

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#722 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
<quoted text>I'm pretty sure you didn't know what amorphous meant and probably still don't. Here is a science lesson for you. All glass is amorphous, it other words it is neither solid or liquid . If you go find a window from a 100 year old house and measure the thickness at the bottom it will be thicker because it flowed down over the hundred years. If you break that window however it would come in handy to cut you. The whole idea behind DE is that it scratches the mites coating off and then they dehydrate and die. When these particles get in the lungs then your body identifies them as foreign matter because your body can not metabolize them. Then your body tries to isolate them to protect the body by growing tissue around those particles and your lungs fill with tiny ireversable tumors.
That is called interstitial lung disease.

You can go google anything you want but the bottom line is you are full of sh.

Not to mention you pulled those mite pictures off an entomology website and lied about the camera.

You are not cured you don't even know what you have,I've been reading your stupid posts for a long time.

http://rense.com/general74/morg4.htm
Your post are nothing more then proof positive that you are who you claim you are not. Your attacks started when you tried to lure people over to your web page to sell your sulfur soaps and tree oils. I am selling nothing, I have shown that the item I've used are perfectly safe for kids and pets with nothing for me to gain. Which leaves your products out of the loop.

You would be better off selling DE then trying to spread lies about it on here when it is a real life saver against the mites and helping those that really need the help.

Attack the mites not us.

"IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ONLY NATURAL DIATOMACEOUS EARTH BE USED FOR INSECT CONTROL. This noncrystalline silica is not a hazard as the human body apparently can dissolve it. " "Silicosis refers to lung contamination and irritation by crystalline of free silica (Si02). Crystalline describes the orientation of the Si02 molecules which occur in a fixed pattern in contrast to the non periodic, random molecular arrangement defined as amorphous. "
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#723 Feb 3, 2013
Virtual Scabies wrote:
You rang?
I asked you....
You rang?
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#724 Feb 3, 2013
The thing that I would add is that you spent a whole month on this forum talking about your long red track marks and instructing anyone who would listen as to exactly what they were.

You seem to be getting used to the google so I challenge you to go find an entomology website or a real valid medical website, not some bunch of nuts like birdmites.org , that mentions anything about those.

You will be able to find morgellons forums where the people are talking about having them though.

The bottom line is that you come here to feed your need for drama and attention and really just need to shut up.

Since: May 12

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#725 Feb 3, 2013
If anyone wants to message me at lotus fan and give me their email address I have a word file that I have prepared just for the sufferers here. It explains in details not only what you need to do to aproach this infection but also how to proceed for optimal health for the rest of your life.

Even you Joddy, I don't hold grudges against anyone.

I did this because I am sick of reposting stuff that gets lost or attracts the attention of people with a permethrin induced bug up their as**s.

It is very complete , you will have all you need and won't need to ask anything.

Since: Apr 12

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#726 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
The thing that I would add is that you spent a whole month on this forum talking about your long red track marks and instructing anyone who would listen as to exactly what they were.

You seem to be getting used to the google so I challenge you to go find an entomology website or a real valid medical website, not some bunch of nuts like birdmites.org , that mentions anything about those.

You will be able to find morgellons forums where the people are talking about having them though.

The bottom line is that you come here to feed your need for drama and attention and really just need to shut up.
LOL

What a Dolt!

I have posted the photos of the track marks and two types of mites that I have found.

I have stated me and my wife are cured.
Not what a drama queen would claim.
And after trying everything in the book I shared what cured us and tossed out the junk. Like bleach baths, or those that were eating Borax, sulfur soap and tree oils. I always suggest a Doctor to treatment. And the 100% non poisonous DE.

Mites are very hard to prove and people tend to try anything to get rid of the nightmare.

No drama, just facts.

The only reason one would act like you would be if you had something to lose. You obvious have something to lose if people use DE and get cured.

Since: Apr 12

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#728 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
The thing that I would add is that you spent a whole month on this forum talking about your long red track marks and instructing anyone who would listen as to exactly what they were.

You seem to be getting used to the google so I challenge you to go find an entomology website or a real valid medical website, not some bunch of nuts like birdmites.org , that mentions anything about those.

You will be able to find morgellons forums where the people are talking about having them though.

The bottom line is that you come here to feed your need for drama and attention and really just need to shut up.
This from a Parents Blog at Berkeley.

http://parents.berkeley.edu/advice/health/rat...

Without knowing about Morgellons or all of your symptoms, I just wanted to be sure you are not being bitten by mites. We were invaded by rat mites a year ago. Often only one or some people in the family are effected. It definitely felt like things were crawling on us -- and they were, but the mites are practically too small to be seen by the human eye. This caused unbearable itching. You can research rat mites, or call the city of Berkeley for a pamphlet, to determine if your bites/itching follow the pattern for mite bites. Unfortunately many doctors don't know how to recognize this. Ultimately the problem was resolved by ridding our attic of rats. Good luck! anon

Please consider the possibility of RAT MITES.
They are essentially invisible, more active at night and in warm weather, and because not everyone is allergic to their bite, it's possible for only one of a couple to be aware of a problem.(The mites will infiltrate from whereever the rats are breeding, for instance, in an attic or basement.)

I suffered with similar symptoms for three years before I figured out what was going on. Got rid of the rats and the itching subsided almost immediately.(You might try sleeping elsewhere for a weekend as a ''test''.)

BTW, I recommend going for rat *traps* before resorting to poisons. If the rats die in the walls you're in for MONTHS of a stench that's almost unbearable, not to mention swarms of Really Big FLIES! Good luck!

Feb 2005
Re: Our family is being eaten alive!
We had the same thing--my daughter and husband have hundreds of tiny, very itchy bites. I consulted the archives, and it was, as many other people have had, rat mites (we had just discovered rats in our basement a few days earlier.) I think the rain is driving them in. We'd never had an issue before and have lived in this house for 10 years. Check your attic and basement carefully.

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#729 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
The thing that I would add is that you spent a whole month on this forum talking about your long red track marks and instructing anyone who would listen as to exactly what they were.

You seem to be getting used to the google so I challenge you to go find an entomology website or a real valid medical website, not some bunch of nuts like birdmites.org , that mentions anything about those.

You will be able to find morgellons forums where the people are talking about having them though.

The bottom line is that you come here to feed your need for drama and attention and really just need to shut up.
US Government Web Page for Public Medicine

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9868661/

Abstract
Six medical students inhabiting a centuries-old, rat-infested house in Lübeck, in northern Germany, were suffering from itching papules and seropapules. Prior to these patients' visit to our institute, their conditions had been diagnosed as pediculosis, scabies, or pulicosis and treated unsuccessfully with the antiparasitic agent lindane (0.3%). The final diagnosis, tropical rat mite dermatitis, was based on the identification of the arthropod Ornithonyssus bacoti, which has an unsegmented body with eight legs. No treatment was recommended, and the dermatitis disappeared within 2 weeks. Measures taken to prevent reinfestation included extermination of the rats and treatment of the rooms of the house with the acaricide benzyl benzoate. Because the mite O. bacoti spends a relatively short time on a host and penetrates the skin for feeding only, the application of an antiparasitic agent is not necessary. If indicated, treatment should be symptomatic.
uncle sam

Denver, CO

#730 Feb 3, 2013
Here is Lang with his stroke of genius Nair

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/THV...

Here is boy wonder talking about his red track marks.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T58...

I know he will try to change the subject as he never answers a question straight, he just calls someone a sulfur salesman.

Here is everyone on a Morgellons forum talking about, guess what, red track marks.

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Mo...

His typical M.O. is to change the subject or propose some stupid argument that only makes sense to people on drugs.

I can judge him clueless 1000 times but it doesn't do him justice because he truly is crazy, I just hate to see him bring real sufferers down into his personal hell.

Since: Apr 12

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#731 Feb 3, 2013
uncle sam wrote:
Here is Lang with his stroke of genius Nair

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/THV...

Here is boy wonder talking about his red track marks.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T58...

I know he will try to change the subject as he never answers a question straight, he just calls someone a sulfur salesman.

Here is everyone on a Morgellons forum talking about, guess what, red track marks.

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Mo...

His typical M.O. is to change the subject or propose some stupid argument that only makes sense to people on drugs.

I can judge him clueless 1000 times but it doesn't do him justice because he truly is crazy, I just hate to see him bring real sufferers down into his personal hell.
Your post are nothing more then proof positive that you are who you claim you are not. Your attacks started when you tried to lure people over to your web page to sell your sulfur soaps and tree oils. I am selling nothing, I have shown that the item I've used are perfectly safe for kids and pets with nothing for me to gain. Which leaves your products out of the loop.

You would be better off selling DE then trying to spread lies about it on here when it is a real life saver against the mites and helping those that really need the help.

Attack the mites not us.

"IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ONLY NATURAL DIATOMACEOUS EARTH BE USED FOR INSECT CONTROL. This noncrystalline silica is not a hazard as the human body apparently can dissolve it. " "Silicosis refers to lung contamination and irritation by crystalline of free silica (Si02). Crystalline describes the orientation of the Si02 molecules which occur in a fixed pattern in contrast to the non periodic, random molecular arrangement defined as amorphous. "
Homeless scabies

Bronx, NY

#732 Feb 3, 2013
I believe in Morgs disease, but tropical rat mites have been known to look like fibers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8626767/Mor...

"I took the three mites I'd caught to our local Homerton Hospital," he says. "A technician mounted one on a slide, put it under a microscope and said 'Beautiful'. Everyone gathered around saying 'Ooh, look at that'."

It was definitely something. But they didn't know what. "They sent it to the Natural History Museum, which identified it within a day," says Nick, "as a Tropical Rat Mite."

Although museum experts doubted the mites could live on the skin, the GP has no doubt that is what they were doing. "What these mites do is go in through the hair follicles and find a blood vessel at the bottom. That's where they sit and that's what the 'fibres' are their legs folded back."

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