Scabies on face and scalp?

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#691 Feb 1, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Langoliers, hows your wife doing? Did she feel crawling all over her body? Do you guys still have DE all over the house? You got tracks from what ever you were dealing with? I'm to the point I'm going to shave my hair off. Any help is apperciated
We are cleaning powder out of one room a week. My wife is still scared but still no bites. The Doctor gave us Lindane Shampoo maybe you can try that before you shave off your hair.

Tracks here is a pitcher of how they left tracks at the worst of our battle.

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s536/Lang...

Since: Jan 13

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#692 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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We are cleaning powder out of one room a week. My wife is still scared but still no bites. The Doctor gave us Lindane Shampoo maybe you can try that before you shave off your hair.
Tracks here is a pitcher of how they left tracks at the worst of our battle.
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s536/Lang...
I don't blame her. How long have you been cleared? I know I have major OCD. I use to love being outside. I always hated bugs, but now I'm really scared.
Is DE all you used or did you fumigate also? My husband put DE all over the attic and basement, and my room. We fumigated the house about 3 weeks ago. I found a bug that was in my room, it was dead but all dried up prob from the DE. Thanks to your post about DE.
I doubt they will give me lindane, I don't have any marks but that little track a 1/2mm long. I showed them one I had on my leg that was prob 2 inches long, and they said I prob scratched myself...one scratch? No other scratches just one?? Ugh. Thanks again for still helping everyone on forum. You deserve a gold star!:-)

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#693 Feb 1, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't blame her. How long have you been cleared? I know I have major OCD. I use to love being outside. I always hated bugs, but now I'm really scared.
Is DE all you used or did you fumigate also? My husband put DE all over the attic and basement, and my room. We fumigated the house about 3 weeks ago. I found a bug that was in my room, it was dead but all dried up prob from the DE. Thanks to your post about DE.
I doubt they will give me lindane, I don't have any marks but that little track a 1/2mm long. I showed them one I had on my leg that was prob 2 inches long, and they said I prob scratched myself...one scratch? No other scratches just one?? Ugh. Thanks again for still helping everyone on forum. You deserve a gold star!:-)
Early off we fumigate that didn't work

For the Environment (your house) all you need is DE a THIN coat on everything, and in bed with you.
Take that bed a part and powder everything. "Thin coat"

You will need lindane lotion for your body and that you need to put every where, in ears in your nose eye brows scalp under nails every where including the privates.

The last thing you need is Ivermectin.

Those three did it for us the rest you read about was nothing more then a waste of time. Some of it I had thought had cured us only to get bit up again 6 weeks later.

Good luck.
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#694 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yup you're getting them from the dog.
Diatom powder works on them. You need revolution for the dog.
Revolution did not work for my dogs.
The very first thing the vet gave my pets was injectible ivermectin.
Revolution does not quite do it.
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#695 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Early off we fumigate that didn't work
For the Environment (your house) all you need is DE a THIN coat on everything, and in bed with you.
Take that bed a part and powder everything. "Thin coat"
You will need lindane lotion for your body and that you need to put every where, in ears in your nose eye brows scalp under nails every where including the privates.
The last thing you need is Ivermectin.
Those three did it for us the rest you read about was nothing more then a waste of time. Some of it I had thought had cured us only to get bit up again 6 weeks later.
Good luck.
Ivermectin works wonder for scabies.
You can also use the Lindane as a topical, but I heard that lindane can be quite toxic, so don't use any more often than once every 7 days. Consult a physcian and have the physician prescribe Elimite permethrin cream 5%(with 3 refills) and Stromectol Ivermectin tablets according to your weight. 2 refills of the ivermectin would be needed.
Consult a professional medical doctor.
These are just things I learned along the way, and you should always consult a professional medical doctor.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#697 Feb 1, 2013
Virtual Scabies wrote:
<quoted text>Ivermectin works wonder for scabies.
You can also use the Lindane as a topical, but I heard that lindane can be quite toxic, so don't use any more often than once every 7 days. Consult a physcian and have the physician prescribe Elimite permethrin cream 5%(with 3 refills) and Stromectol Ivermectin tablets according to your weight. 2 refills of the ivermectin would be needed.
Consult a professional medical doctor.
These are just things I learned along the way, and you should always consult a professional medical doctor.
Yes, Stromectol, and Lindane you need to get through your Doctor and follow those instructions, obviously. I had both given every seven days 5 doses of the Lindane and 4 months of Stromectol.
We did not win the war until my wife shaved her hair off and we DE everything.

I will say this one more time so no one gets the wrong idea. Follow Doctors orders, these medication can kill you if you do it wrong! And stay away from bleach baths and eating things like Borax. These will cause more harm then the mites.
ScabiesScare

Santa Rosa, CA

#698 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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We are cleaning powder out of one room a week. My wife is still scared but still no bites. The Doctor gave us Lindane Shampoo maybe you can try that before you shave off your hair.
Tracks here is a pitcher of how they left tracks at the worst of our battle.
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s536/Lang...
Are those all tracks or are some of the marks scratches? It's hard for me to tell the difference...thanks for sharing the pic!

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#699 Feb 1, 2013
ScabiesScare wrote:
<quoted text>Are those all tracks or are some of the marks scratches? It's hard for me to tell the difference...thanks for sharing the pic!
I woke up with them so I can't be 100% sure but they are way to thin to be finger nails. And very common to tracks marks we had for months. Some over 3 inches long. Most 1 1/2 inches long.

Since: Jan 13

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#700 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes, Stromectol, and Lindane you need to get through your Doctor and follow those instructions, obviously. I had both given every seven days 5 doses of the Lindane and 4 months of Stromectol.
We did not win the war until my wife shaved her hair off and we DE everything.
I will say this one more time so no one gets the wrong idea. Follow Doctors orders, these medication can kill you if you do it wrong! And stay away from bleach baths and eating things like Borax. These will cause more harm then the mites.
Thanks for all your help. I think I might have to rob a pharmacy for lindane. I have the pills, my friend went to South America and brought me the iver pills and prem. I wish I knew about Lindane I would have had her brig that also. It's crazy how much easier and cheaper it is to get meds there. I paid for 2 6mg packs for $6.00 and prem $10.00 a tube...thanks again. I have DE all over my room but not the whole house. I can see why your wife is still scared thinking your ok and six weeks later you start getting bites. It's the worse. I thought I was over this in October not to find out at the end of November they were still there. Put me over the edge! Now I'm in war mode

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#701 Feb 1, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for all your help. I think I might have to rob a pharmacy for lindane. I have the pills, my friend went to South America and brought me the iver pills and prem. I wish I knew about Lindane I would have had her brig that also. It's crazy how much easier and cheaper it is to get meds there. I paid for 2 6mg packs for $6.00 and prem $10.00 a tube...thanks again. I have DE all over my room but not the whole house. I can see why your wife is still scared thinking your ok and six weeks later you start getting bites. It's the worse. I thought I was over this in October not to find out at the end of November they were still there. Put me over the edge! Now I'm in war mode
That's the right attitude!
Virtual Scabies

Hollywood, FL

#702 Feb 1, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes, Stromectol, and Lindane you need to get through your Doctor and follow those instructions, obviously. I had both given every seven days 5 doses of the Lindane and 4 months of Stromectol.
We did not win the war until my wife shaved her hair off and we DE everything.
I will say this one more time so no one gets the wrong idea. Follow Doctors orders, these medication can kill you if you do it wrong! And stay away from bleach baths and eating things like Borax. These will cause more harm then the mites.
Hi Langoliers,
Usually doctors will not prescribe months and months of Lindane treatment. Since it is toxic, I don't see any doctor prescribing anymore than about 2 refills. Also, Stromectol ivermectin is also prescribed with caution and not usually for 4 months. Maybe 3 refills, if you are lucky.
Shaving your head will help, but it is not necessary. Diatomacious Earth did absolutely nothing to help our situation. But every situation is different, and I have read many good things about DE.
If used too often it may cause lung damage, though. It is a very fine dust..

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#703 Feb 1, 2013
Virtual Scabies wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Langoliers,
Usually doctors will not prescribe months and months of Lindane treatment. Since it is toxic, I don't see any doctor prescribing anymore than about 2 refills. Also, Stromectol ivermectin is also prescribed with caution and not usually for 4 months. Maybe 3 refills, if you are lucky.
Shaving your head will help, but it is not necessary. Diatomacious Earth did absolutely nothing to help our situation. But every situation is different, and I have read many good things about DE.
If used too often it may cause lung damage, though. It is a very fine dust..
Yes many Doctors allow only one dose of Lindane. I had the Mites to give the Doctor and he was an expert and told us yes we can take as many as 4 to 6 treatments of Lindane he also gave me 5 pills per treatment of Stromectol and we stayed on Stromectol for like months. But for us it was the DE that really helped because our mites could live 6 weeks off the host so we needed to make sure that each one that left the host died. When my wife shaved her hair we found the last hive and Lindane killed that off. Funny we thought we were getting down to her scalp but with her thick hair we could not get them. She had her hair colored many times one would think that would do it but it didn't. She had to shave it and that exposed the main hive. That's was some war. Just over a year now. 2 to 3 months bit free slowly cleaning and Unboxing our cloths.

Since: Jan 13

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#704 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes many Doctors allow only one dose of Lindane. I had the Mites to give the Doctor and he was an expert and told us yes we can take as many as 4 to 6 treatments of Lindane he also gave me 5 pills per treatment of Stromectol and we stayed on Stromectol for like months. But for us it was the DE that really helped because our mites could live 6 weeks off the host so we needed to make sure that each one that left the host died. When my wife shaved her hair we found the last hive and Lindane killed that off. Funny we thought we were getting down to her scalp but with her thick hair we could not get them. She had her hair colored many times one would think that would do it but it didn't. She had to shave it and that exposed the main hive. That's was some war. Just over a year now. 2 to 3 months bit free slowly cleaning and Unboxing our cloths.
I'm guess you use to check her hair, did you ever see any bumps or bites? My hair is also thick. Though its gotten thinner, did that happen to her? The DE seems to be helping us.(Touch wood)
I know I'm asking tons of questions, and i'm sorry if you have answered these before, but I was wondering did you get bitten all over your body or were you only bitten in certain places? When you did the stromecol, did you feel itchy later? I read that you said if you get tracks after taking the meds you know it's working, how long after taking the meds would you see tracks? Did you ever see little black specks like >.
Last one (I hope) how did your bites look? Again thanks for all your help!

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#705 Feb 2, 2013
Needpeace34 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm guess you use to check her hair, did you ever see any bumps or bites? My hair is also thick. Though its gotten thinner, did that happen to her? The DE seems to be helping us.(Touch wood)
I know I'm asking tons of questions, and i'm sorry if you have answered these before, but I was wondering did you get bitten all over your body or were you only bitten in certain places? When you did the stromecol, did you feel itchy later? I read that you said if you get tracks after taking the meds you know it's working, how long after taking the meds would you see tracks? Did you ever see little black specks like >.
Last one (I hope) how did your bites look? Again thanks for all your help!
My hair got real thin also. They lay their egg sac on the hair when they hatch they seem to eat through the hair

Yes she had red bumps and like a red rash and bits.

I was bitten all over. And yes you will get itchy as the dead stuff gets pushed out of your skin.

Tracks, it was like they went nuts before dying. This was a day or two after the medication.

I also found that not eating for many hours before and after the medication make it work a lot better.
So I got up at at three AM and took mine.

Since: Jan 13

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#706 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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My hair got real thin also. They lay their egg sac on the hair when they hatch they seem to eat through the hair
Yes she had red bumps and like a red rash and bits.
I was bitten all over. And yes you will get itchy as the dead stuff gets pushed out of your skin.
Tracks, it was like they went nuts before dying. This was a day or two after the medication.
I also found that not eating for many hours before and after the medication make it work a lot better.
So I got up at at three AM and took mine.
Very interesting! Thanks again.
I have there pimple looking things which I think are bites but they don't itch. I asked my husband to look through my scalp and he doesn't see anything. I have been putting sulfur 8 on my scalp just about everyday. Last time I took iver pill it was Sat in the am. I had a little crawling nothing serious. I did have grapefruit juice throughout the weekend. All of a sudden on Tuesday that's when I felt activity. Got a rash on my arm, and woke up with a tiny track. Thanks again!
Emma

South San Francisco, CA

#707 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes many Doctors allow only one dose of Lindane. I had the Mites to give the Doctor and he was an expert and told us yes we can take as many as 4 to 6 treatments of Lindane he also gave me 5 pills per treatment of Stromectol and we stayed on Stromectol for like months. But for us it was the DE that really helped because our mites could live 6 weeks off the host so we needed to make sure that each one that left the host died. When my wife shaved her hair we found the last hive and Lindane killed that off. Funny we thought we were getting down to her scalp but with her thick hair we could not get them. She had her hair colored many times one would think that would do it but it didn't. She had to shave it and that exposed the main hive. That's was some war. Just over a year now. 2 to 3 months bit free slowly cleaning and Unboxing our cloths.
Langoliers, Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. God bless you for that.
I ended up buying Aven 40x microscopic camera. I spent some good hours looking for pathogens on my scalp but so far did not get lucky. I was just able to see some black specks on my son's hand. He has very dry tracks and bruises.
My plan is to take pics like your ones and show them to my dermatologist in order to get prescriptions for Stromectol and Lindane. Now I' m afraid that 40x magnification (goes to 200x if enlarge) is not enough to take meaningful pics for the doc. This is my 6th dermatologist. We keep getting diagnosed with allergic dermatitis (they say that mites don't go on the scalp or face).
Grateful for your posts and suggestions!

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#708 Feb 2, 2013
"RODENT and BIRD MITES (Liponyssoides sanguineus, Laelaps echidnina, Ornithonyssus spp., Dermanyssus gallinae, Cheyletiella spp.)

Rodent and bird mites may bite people when their hosts die or abandon their nests. Three types of rodent mites readily bite humans: the house mouse mite (Liponyssoides saguineus), spiny rat mite (Laelaps echidnina) and tropical rat mite (Ornithonyssus bacoti). The house mouse mite prefers to suck the blood of mice, but also will bite rats and people, often causing a rash around the bite. They prefer warm places (e.g., around pipes and furnaces) where rodents live. The spiny rat mite feeds on rats at night and hides by day in cracks and crevices around rat nests and resting places. The tropical rat mite’s bite is painful and causes skin irritation and itching.

Mites that normally infest birds also bite people. The northern fowl mite (Ornithonyssus sylviarum) and chicken mite (Dermanyssus gallinae) primarily infest chickens, but also pigeons, starlings and sparrows. The northern fowl mite cannot survive for more than a month off its host, while the chicken mite hides in cracks and crevices near bird nests during the day and feeds by night. Cheyletiella mites infest both birds and mammals. They may prey on other mites and insects living on the host’s skin. They can cause a mange-like condition in pets, and itching in people who handle infested pets. They do not stay long on humans."

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#709 Feb 2, 2013
Over the past two weeks we’ve had two customers dealing with rat mites. In both cases the bites seemed to come out of no where.

The first case involved an elderly couple in Laguna Niguel that recently had pest control work done by a local pest company. The pest companies activity seemed to stir up the rats and the couple began to experience small red marks on their skin, randomly, over their entire body. When we were called out to find a solution we were more than prepared to do the work since we’ve dealt with rat mites many times in the past. After cleaning the entire attic and removing the insulation we decontaminated utilizing a procedure that would not only kill bacteria, and viruses, but also any parasites in the attic as well. We also decontaminated the bedrooms for any rat mites. The homeowners moved out for the weekend and were able to move back in the following week.

In the next instance a couple from Hancock Park was enduring an infestation over a long period of time. One day they found one of the mites on their skin and examined the parasite under a microscope. The couple found that they were infested with “Tropical Rat Mites”.

Tropical Rat Mite

While they weren’t very concerned with the bites on themselves, that came out of nowhere, the couple recently had a beautiful baby girl and needed to protect her health. Again, we performed a full attic cleaning service that included removing all the insulation, cleaning up the droppings, and decontaminating the attic. We also found the crawlspace to be infested. We cleaned and decontaminated the area in order to get rid of the rat mites. After the attic was cleaned and decontaminated we came back the next day to install new insulation. The most difficult part of the job was the attic being only four feet high, imagine working in that all day.

In both cases we were able to not only get rid of all the rat contamination by cleaning up the droppings and removing the insulation, but also to get rid of the rat mites by properly decontaminating the affected areas.

The following is information about rat mites from the Illinois Department of Health:
Rodent and bird mites may bite people when their hosts die or abandon their nests. Three types of rodent mites readily bite humans: the house mouse mite (Liponyssoides saguineus), spiny rat mite (Laelaps echidnina) and tropical rat mite (Ornithonyssus bacoti). The house mouse mite prefers to suck the blood of mice, but also will bite rats and people, often causing a rash around the bite. They prefer warm places (e.g., around pipes and furnaces) where rodents live. The spiny rat mite feeds on rats at night and hides by day in cracks and crevices around rat nests and resting places. The tropical rat mite’s bite is painful and causes skin irritation and itching.
misery_in_au

Sydney, Australia

#710 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers, are you saying that you woke up with these recently, like yesterday? Or were you speaking of the past infection?

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#711 Feb 2, 2013
misery_in_au wrote:
Langoliers, are you saying that you woke up with these recently, like yesterday? Or were you speaking of the past infection?
No just copied some articles on the rat mite.

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