ivermectin
Tick

Fredericton, Canada

#1 May 21, 2008
I don't understand why would it be hard to get ivermectin if it works? Do doctors just not want to prescribe it? What if you went to your doctor and told him you tried everything already and nothing else is working and your at your wits end?
What a horrible thing these things are.
Sam

Sacramento, CA

#2 May 22, 2008
Tick, some doctors do prescribe iver, but only in 1 or 2 doses, and sometimes in lower doses than you need. Iver rocks! I had to use it with a topical at the same time. It worked best for me first thing in the morning with a large glass of water, empty stomach, don't even drink coffee, eat about 2 hours later, don't shower or wash it off for 24 - 48 hours later.

Iver is still considered off label for insurance companies because it is still being researched by the FDA for scabies. This could take years. It was cheaper for me to order it online than through my insurance.

I saw in another thread you were asking about sulfur. Bill uses the 3 days on and some days off but he isn't cured. The people who say it cured them used it for 7 days straight, 2x a day.
Jilly

Australia

#3 May 22, 2008
Sam wrote:
Tick, some doctors do prescribe iver, but only in 1 or 2 doses, and sometimes in lower doses than you need. Iver rocks! I had to use it with a topical at the same time. It worked best for me first thing in the morning with a large glass of water, empty stomach, don't even drink coffee, eat about 2 hours later, don't shower or wash it off for 24 - 48 hours later.
Iver is still considered off label for insurance companies because it is still being researched by the FDA for scabies. This could take years. It was cheaper for me to order it online than through my insurance.
I saw in another thread you were asking about sulfur. Bill uses the 3 days on and some days off but he isn't cured. The people who say it cured them used it for 7 days straight, 2x a day.
hi sam
what about oral ivermecton what is sthe amount per kilo of body weight. I am going to try and get the animal one if the dermatologist wont prescribe over here you have to get a government authority apparently. is all goin ok for you what is your post scabies like now can you tell us what you are sufffering with that.
Itty Bitty Critters

Deerfield Beach, FL

#5 May 22, 2008
Jilly wrote:
<quoted text>hi sam
what about oral ivermecton what is sthe amount per kilo of body weight. I am going to try and get the animal one if the dermatologist wont prescribe over here you have to get a government authority apparently. is all goin ok for you what is your post scabies like now can you tell us what you are sufffering with that.
an easy way to figure it out, is just to take your weight, and take off the last zero. for instance, if you weigh 150 pounds, you take off the last zero and you take 15 mg. if you weigh 200, you take 20 mg. or a wee bit more. the animal ivermectin dosage is on the package. follow package directions, depending on the type you buy - injectible, horsepaste, or pour on, or drench. it's all ivermectin.
janetinnyc

Pinellas Park, FL

#7 May 23, 2008
Sam,
I am so deeply glad that when you speak about this condition, you now speak in the past tense. Welty reminded us who clamor for you that you finally got to hug your mother on mother's day for the first time in years (at least we know many months). That is touching and stirs up hope. My mom is gone, but I do not even allow myself to think about spending time with my friends again. Or my dear cat!
Sam, I have all along attempted to adapt your methods, from iver at least every 5 days or so (whenever I go longer, it's a mistake), topicals with it (usually in one form or another), bleach on hands and feet, to baggies on the phone, etc. Right now, I am not swimming today, or showering, because you recently recommended, or shared doctor's recommendation, that you allow iver to work. I may let it go til I swim tomorrow afternoon. You continue to be a priceless source of information and help.
I know I have been inconstant, but I went through a period where it hurt to sit too long, and in any case I rarely had access to a computer on the other side of town. I used to wish every day that I could just pick up one of my cell phones and call you and Scabies3 and Welty. But of course, the cell phones are completely infested, too. In fact, I think I was so desensitized by high mite count that until you mentioned it (`of course you're using a baggie, Janet, I don't have to tell you that'), I hadn't been using a baggie on my cell phone. All of a sudden, one day it seems like, it became intolerable. My solution was not to use the phone, then bought "Go" phone, which is around the time you posted about about using baggies.
The phone keeps in touch with few loyal friends and brother, who are so stalwart. I often risk a little reinfection just for their support. The phones are horrible. Who was it said they smashed their phone with a hammer? Oh man do I get that. As you and Welty have pointed out, the hands! The hands! I put on the vinyl gloves as soon as I get inside. I took out a notebook I've been using for too long, and even it is badly infested!
I think I may have become more sensitized as mite count goes down, also more allergic and therefore more aware. Every machine hurts. Even notebooks hurt!
But Sam, you're not talking to me hurts even worse! Please let me know, in as few words as you like, that you forgive me for being a lousy poster. AFterall, as Welty said, you obviously should use your waking hours now to rebuild your life. Thank you in any case, whether you address me personally or not (Janet, get over yourself), for continuing to post and help.
Sam wrote:
Tick, some doctors do prescribe iver, but only in 1 or 2 doses, and sometimes in lower doses than you need. Iver rocks! I had to use it with a topical at the same time. It worked best for me first thing in the morning with a large glass of water, empty stomach, don't even drink coffee, eat about 2 hours later, don't shower or wash it off for 24 - 48 hours later.
Iver is still considered off label for insurance companies because it is still being researched by the FDA for scabies. This could take years. It was cheaper for me to order it online than through my insurance.
I saw in another thread you were asking about sulfur. Bill uses the 3 days on and some days off but he isn't cured. The people who say it cured them used it for 7 days straight, 2x a day.
janetinnyc

Pinellas Park, FL

#8 May 23, 2008
Itty bitty,
Once again, they're closing. But I wanted to say I've been giving a lot of thought to your post to Sam about the wild sarcoptic mites we've got. I don't know if they're qualitatively different than say Sam's (who had it bad) or whether time and allergic reaction makes them seem worse? Anyway, I've become very concerned about this as it pertains to other people and am contemplating seeking help from Mayo Clinic for starters. I don't think any more I should be moving around, and I'm scared to settle down to constant misery! I paid close attention to all you did as homeowner and wonder how I could keep it simple as subletter or renter....to be continued...
janetinnyc wrote:
Itty Bitty,
I think my weight is a little higher than the 9 mg dose! Was I undertreating myself the whole time? You know, the first thing the doctor did was up my dose to 12 mg. I probably weigh somewhere between 115 and 1119--but really, where did docs come up with 9 mgs? Maybe when I was first diagnosed, I was around 110, because I was so toxified I couldn't eat. Wow. <quoted text>
Itty Bitty Critters

Deerfield Beach, FL

#9 May 23, 2008
janetinnyc wrote:
Sam,
I am so deeply glad that when you speak about this condition, you now speak in the past tense. Welty reminded us who clamor for you that you finally got to hug your mother on mother's day for the first time in years (at least we know many months). That is touching and stirs up hope. My mom is gone, but I do not even allow myself to think about spending time with my friends again. Or my dear cat!
Sam, I have all along attempted to adapt your methods, from iver at least every 5 days or so (whenever I go longer, it's a mistake), topicals with it (usually in one form or another), bleach on hands and feet, to baggies on the phone, etc. Right now, I am not swimming today, or showering, because you recently recommended, or shared doctor's recommendation, that you allow iver to work. I may let it go til I swim tomorrow afternoon. You continue to be a priceless source of information and help.
I know I have been inconstant, but I went through a period where it hurt to sit too long, and in any case I rarely had access to a computer on the other side of town. I used to wish every day that I could just pick up one of my cell phones and call you and Scabies3 and Welty. But of course, the cell phones are completely infested, too. In fact, I think I was so desensitized by high mite count that until you mentioned it (`of course you're using a baggie, Janet, I don't have to tell you that'), I hadn't been using a baggie on my cell phone. All of a sudden, one day it seems like, it became intolerable. My solution was not to use the phone, then bought "Go" phone, which is around the time you posted about about using baggies.
The phone keeps in touch with few loyal friends and brother, who are so stalwart. I often risk a little reinfection just for their support. The phones are horrible. Who was it said they smashed their phone with a hammer? Oh man do I get that. As you and Welty have pointed out, the hands! The hands! I put on the vinyl gloves as soon as I get inside. I took out a notebook I've been using for too long, and even it is badly infested!
I think I may have become more sensitized as mite count goes down, also more allergic and therefore more aware. Every machine hurts. Even notebooks hurt!
But Sam, you're not talking to me hurts even worse! Please let me know, in as few words as you like, that you forgive me for being a lousy poster. AFterall, as Welty said, you obviously should use your waking hours now to rebuild your life. Thank you in any case, whether you address me personally or not (Janet, get over yourself), for continuing to post and help.
<quoted text>
Again, for the cell phone, buy a 5 pound tank of co2 and fill a gallon sized zip lock bag with the co2, with the phone inside. works for wallets, papers, books. You cannot breath the co2. It's so dangerous. You need a tube to connect to the tank. and to stick into the bag. I have to reemphasize this, because it really helps. I know you can't do it now, but when you get settled somewhere (with tiled floors).
BuggedByBugs

Toronto, Canada

#10 May 28, 2008
Tick wrote:
I don't understand why would it be hard to get ivermectin if it works? Do doctors just not want to prescribe it? What if you went to your doctor and told him you tried everything already and nothing else is working and your at your wits end?
What a horrible thing these things are.
Hello Tick, I'm in Toronto and I'd like to know if you have found a canadian source for Ivermectin - I'm new to this forum, I've got a household to manage (two teens, girlfriends, etc.) and this is a very difficult situation for me.
Tick

Fredericton, Canada

#11 May 28, 2008
Not yet I haven't no. Hopefully soon.
im_no_doctor

Salt Lake City, UT

#12 May 28, 2008
Itty Bitty Critters wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, for the cell phone, buy a 5 pound tank of co2 and fill a gallon sized zip lock bag with the co2, with the phone inside. works for wallets, papers, books. You cannot breath the co2. It's so dangerous. You need a tube to connect to the tank. and to stick into the bag. I have to reemphasize this, because it really helps. I know you can't do it now, but when you get settled somewhere (with tiled floors).
... The co2 is not dangerous... its what makes the bubbles in soda pop.. it's the gas we use for welding and welders breathe it all day.. I think part of our atmosphere is co2.exists in Earth's atmosphere in this state. It is currently at a globally averaged concentration of approximately 387 ppm by volume in the Earth's atmosphere,.. it drives oxygen out and would suffocate something alive. but the gas is not dangerous if breathed ....
Bill

United States

#13 May 28, 2008
im_no_doctor wrote:
<quoted text>... The co2 is not dangerous... its what makes the bubbles in soda pop.. it's the gas we use for welding and welders breathe it all day.. I think part of our atmosphere is co2.exists in Earth's atmosphere in this state. It is currently at a globally averaged concentration of approximately 387 ppm by volume in the Earth's atmosphere,.. it drives oxygen out and would suffocate something alive. but the gas is not dangerous if breathed ....
Hi C02 is decieving , you think plants breathe it, its got to be ok ...but when the human encounters it it is the opposite, what we try to get rid of when we breathe.. If thereis to much C02 we get dizzy.
. The body can only handle so much C02 then it dies. the kidneys can't handle , and they say it causes kidney damage. if breathed , it has no real strong smell...be careful !, treat it like it is a bug bomb of un known chemicals made to kill. No sniffing or breathing.

see theis great cavers link, they encounter C02 often

http://wasg.iinet.net.au/Co2paper.html

God is a man of war He will redeem us all,
Thank God
Bill
Itty Bitty Critters

Hollywood, FL

#14 May 29, 2008
im_no_doctor wrote:
<quoted text>... The co2 is not dangerous... its what makes the bubbles in soda pop.. it's the gas we use for welding and welders breathe it all day.. I think part of our atmosphere is co2.exists in Earth's atmosphere in this state. It is currently at a globally averaged concentration of approximately 387 ppm by volume in the Earth's atmosphere,.. it drives oxygen out and would suffocate something alive. but the gas is not dangerous if breathed ....
Hi I'm No Doctor. That's a cute screen name. Well, I was only repeating what Bill grills into me. co2 is dangerous. don't breath it. it will kill you. blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda. He is paranoid of chemicals, very much so. Since I have been working with it, experience has shown me that it is working, and not as dangerous as Bill would have you believe. But, on the other hand, he is a good soul and is trying to help others out there. As this "thing" is one of the most difficult things to deal with in your entire lifetime.
Casey

Australia

#15 May 31, 2008
Itty Bitty

Where can i get ivermectin online? i know magic pharma is closing down

Casey

P.S. My body cleared up except red pimply dots from the original spots of scabies nesting in. I took Psorinum. Gave me one month of hell. Then went off. No more intense itching and crawling in evenings. But still the head and feet is not cleared. My feet is pretty crusted. I am able to have one shower a day now.
Wellty

AOL

#16 Jun 2, 2008
Casey, was that you that tried the pour on form of Iver? Did that work for you at all, or did you run out of it too soon? If that was you, I mean?
Casey

Australia

#17 Jun 2, 2008
Wellty wrote:
Casey, was that you that tried the pour on form of Iver? Did that work for you at all, or did you run out of it too soon? If that was you, I mean?
No that must have been another casey.

Okay i found out Magic Pharma is re opening on the 11 August
Itty Bitty Critters

Deerfield Beach, FL

#18 Jun 2, 2008
Casey wrote:
Itty Bitty
Where can i get ivermectin online? i know magic pharma is closing down
Casey
P.S. My body cleared up except red pimply dots from the original spots of scabies nesting in. I took Psorinum. Gave me one month of hell. Then went off. No more intense itching and crawling in evenings. But still the head and feet is not cleared. My feet is pretty crusted. I am able to have one shower a day now.
i buy the animal injectible and pour on from a livestock company
Casey

Australia

#19 Jun 3, 2008
Itty Bitty Critters wrote:
<quoted text>
i buy the animal injectible and pour on from a livestock company
does it work?

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