Scabies That Do NOT Cause Itchy Rashes

Scabies That Do NOT Cause Itchy Rashes

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noscratchymyitch y

Jasper, AL

#1 Jul 5, 2011
After totally isolating myself from all my family for over a year, I was recently cured. I waited for months before having contact with anyone, to make sure that I was totally cured, for fear of spreading the demonic mite to loved ones.
Once I was sure I was cured,(even though the wounds and scars were not completely gone) I slowly began involving myself with family again. Almost immediately, I began to notice subtle marks on my families bodies. When I asked them what it was, they said they didn't even notice it until I mentioned it. I began to find that MOST of my family had the same marks on their bodies that I had on mine,...only mine were severe where theirs were barely visible. I asked them if it itched, and they all said no. I did notice one child scratching alot. This child had been diagnosed with eczema, and given a steroid cream. The child had the same marks all over their little feet and arms. The mom said the cream helps with the itching.
Naturally an old persons skin will have more discoloration, but I always see a pattern. I call it the dot dot dot. Does anyone know what I am referring to?? My areas of break out always had spots, or dots, many times in a triangle shape, but certainly not always that shape. They were all crooked and different, and different sizes. After pointing these marks out to various loved ones, they did acknowledge that they had them all over, but they did not bother them in any way. You could not even notice them if you did not know what to look for. I had seen them on my body so much, that now I can spot them on anyone anywhere. Sheesh! I see them on people in walmart and even on TV. lol
I had one loved one start treating their mild rash (which they had lived fairly comfortably with for over a year). As soon as they started treating it, it went crazy! It popped up all over them in a vengence! Itching was unbearable! I don't know if it was because they were killing the mites or what??
I'm wondering if you can have this and not even realise it. I knew immediately that I had something and it was not good. It disfigures me!
If this is possible, I will have to stay away from everyone I love, and that seems unbearable to me. God help me....and I know He will. He cured me of this horrid disease.

Since: Jun 11

United States

#2 Jul 5, 2011
noscratchymyitchy wrote:
After totally isolating myself from all my family for over a year, I was recently cured. I waited for months before having contact with anyone, to make sure that I was totally cured, for fear of spreading the demonic mite to loved ones.
Once I was sure I was cured,(even though the wounds and scars were not completely gone) I slowly began involving myself with family again. Almost immediately, I began to notice subtle marks on my families bodies. When I asked them what it was, they said they didn't even notice it until I mentioned it. I began to find that MOST of my family had the same marks on their bodies that I had on mine,...only mine were severe where theirs were barely visible. I asked them if it itched, and they all said no. I did notice one child scratching alot. This child had been diagnosed with eczema, and given a steroid cream. The child had the same marks all over their little feet and arms. The mom said the cream helps with the itching.
Naturally an old persons skin will have more discoloration, but I always see a pattern. I call it the dot dot dot. Does anyone know what I am referring to?? My areas of break out always had spots, or dots, many times in a triangle shape, but certainly not always that shape. They were all crooked and different, and different sizes. After pointing these marks out to various loved ones, they did acknowledge that they had them all over, but they did not bother them in any way. You could not even notice them if you did not know what to look for. I had seen them on my body so much, that now I can spot them on anyone anywhere. Sheesh! I see them on people in walmart and even on TV. lol
I had one loved one start treating their mild rash (which they had lived fairly comfortably with for over a year). As soon as they started treating it, it went crazy! It popped up all over them in a vengence! Itching was unbearable! I don't know if it was because they were killing the mites or what??
I'm wondering if you can have this and not even realise it. I knew immediately that I had something and it was not good. It disfigures me!
If this is possible, I will have to stay away from everyone I love, and that seems unbearable to me. God help me....and I know He will. He cured me of this horrid disease.
Dear Noscratchynoitchy, it sounds like to me they are infected, if you do not want to get this again, I would advise, keep away. Sorry to say this, but if you have suffered like I did with the crawling and biting and the digging things. You don't want it again. I would even say treat again, now... I guess some people can live with this, but I can't. I know it is not fair, but if you sat where they sat, touch anything they touched you could be reinfected already. Seek treatment ASAP. You know what to look for and you saw it for yourself. Not everyone is allergic to the mites. If you are you, you will know. I loved my family and didn't want them to get this so I kept myself away from them, only would go to outdoor events, took my own seat wore gloves so as not to give it to them. I told them what was going on, and they understood. Thank goodness. I am cured now and don't want it ever again. Good luck
noscratchymyitch y

Jasper, AL

#3 Jul 7, 2011
Thank you GMB 1306. I did go ahead and start treating because I too have had a living hell with this. I appreciate your comment.
Since I posted this I found an article about Asymptomatic Scabies.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#4 Jul 8, 2011
noscratchymyitchy wrote:
Thank you GMB 1306. I did go ahead and start treating because I too have had a living hell with this. I appreciate your comment.
Since I posted this I found an article about Asymptomatic Scabies.
Glad to hear you started treatment, yes there are a lot of people out there who do not know they have scabies and are infesting people everyday. They may not show signs for months, then they realize after it has a hold of them. Best not to take chances, if you have had a bad experience with this like I have, you definitely don't want it again. I never thought I would actually become human again, there for a while I thought I was loosing my mind. But this condition can do that for you, especially when you can not see your enemy. Good luck
UnhappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#5 Jul 30, 2011
noscratchymyitch, congratulations on your recovery and I want to thank you for your dedication to helping others as I think you may bring many people to light

I was just infested recently and from your post, discovering of family members having the 3 pimple dots and triangle shape (just as I have one large perfect set and another small set among my borrows), I believe I got my scabies from my father and new wife. The wife has off and on allergies? and my dad gets blotches just on his forehead but no itching (blotches he started getting being after his divorce 5 years ago). i think maybe they have scabies and they are somewhat asymptomatic (don't get feel the mites like we do) to it.

Background info
They used to be in an apartment some years back that got infested with bed bugs... and now have been living in a house.
I have rarely been going to the house as of late (they traveled a few times) and when I was there sitting on there couch a few weeks back, i felt an insect crawling on my arm... thinking nothing of it at the time because I had cleaned under trees out in the backyard and in the garage, I went to the bathroom and flicked the insect in to the sink and it fell in the drain

Thinking back after, it looked just like a large fed bed bug....

The following scenarios are strange, but maybe some can be eliminated in relation to the incubation period to the day I got my surprise pimple/borrow infestation

1 July 4 2011, I sat at my fathers couch... also had bed bug looking insect crawling on my arm.

2 July 17 2011, after a night of drinking I received pleasure (w condom) from a, what can be described as a crack head women in her sleazy bedroom.

3 July 22 2011 My father dropped off [2nd time seeing him in these last months] boxes to me from his house garage and upon unloading them in the apartment, I had red allergic rashes on my wrists, in the form of streaks like the sides of the boxes were positioned.

About a few days ago the pimples appeared after the crawling rash started, so...
July 27

When the itching started I bought natural oils, Neem first, then tea oil (just hit hot spots as the bottles were small and expensive for me) and when the pimples appeared with crawlies, I started a garlic treatment and even meant to make a guide

My pictures
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6592/vvvvv...
Note once garlic is fully pounded, it takes 15 minutes to achieve it potency and degrades slowly afterwards... I believe, I also ate 3 cloves 2 times a day.

How to Treat Scabies With Garlic
http://www.ehow.com/how_5085476_treat-scabies...

I had put like a bulb of garlic to a limb (burned wrist with huge blister and it felt like hot coal if bits get on scrotum) with olive oil and saran wrapped my body in my second attempt as they were still kicking around the first time... the second time seemed promising... but hours after and me wrapping till the morning with no sleep, had some crawling.
Note that I had not showered from the first application... I thought a cozy garlic environment would do the trick, even to the hatchings.

So I kept reading not wanting to give in to synthetic chemicals that could destroy my health in the future, permethrin ect, I went out today and bought clove oil and grapseed for one side to test... and a mix of tea tree 100%(new 15ml bottle), lavender 100%, use left over neem 100%, and Aloe Vera (mistakenly the liquid instead of gel), to test on the other side of my body.
UnhappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#7 Jul 30, 2011
After 20 minutes of irregular feeling, my mind was really calm, stress reliever this stuff, and I was almost utopic.
I was good after that but it really surprised me what a minute amount of the grapeseep and clove oil did after soaking in my skin and broken borrows.
At round this time, I feel crawl activity in that same foot area a couple times, away from the dab.
later in the day I filled the whole cup with more grapeseed and tried the smallest dab after mixing. Again I felt a rush soon after, washed the spot but this time, it was less severe.
After 5-10 minutes, as Im beginning to writing this post, I felt totally light headed for one second! and regained my composure as I was sitting. A little scary but then I resorted to burping to further relieve myself.
As Im writing this,~4 hours after my last application, Ive only had ~7 crawling sensations total, then I felt very light movements around my face and arms, not strong enough to call it a crawly but even though the room is somewhat dark now, theses animals are not present to crawl with the exception of one prick I experience right over my feet where I originally applied the first application which is strange... its gotten itchy too..( could be because I had ripped out a "pencil" borrow" there)
I can only speculate so far that the oil went through my system, rushed through my blood and made the critters dormant from the inside. ORRR that Ive lost some inside nerve sensation and only feel some barely noticeable light crawls. Upto 20 times so far.
What a long read for you guys, just documenting my experience in-case someone see any connections... In conclusion I wont be using this miracle lotion for now.
In the Australian report, 2nd link, ylang ylang oil and nutmeg oil were used as they have the same fighting compound but are weaker.
Now I will soak my body in the other lotions I have and tomorrow Ill try a weaker agent thats like Clove oil. I may try to further dilute clove oil by 2 fold but we'll see. Could be Im sensitive to this stuff.
If/when I have success at the very end, I will include this post into a new thread
My environment practices.
Lastly I wear and rotate bags around my feet and change the thin plastic tarp (roll left over from renovations) over my couch (where I sleep too) after treatments or/and a nights sleep. I bleached and watered my leather couches and floor and never use the same sleeping sheet twice... not even after a wash yet which I may after steam ironing
I try to stay home, but if Im still infected and want to go out, I would wear bags in my shoes and will always bag used clothes and store away. If I think my cleaned up of mites, i will still wear new bags on my feet but will not use any used shoes.
Great forum
UnhappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#8 Jul 30, 2011
Just wanted to make a quick update from last night... although I put on the second set of natural oils on my body (half cup Alovera to 3-5 drops of tea/neem/lavender), which was very soothing, not only did I not have any crawlies, but I woke up 10 hours later and its an hour since and I feel cured! The first application did for me.
My body borrows are healing fast and Im going to be-careful not to get reinfected from the environment.
I wouldnt have gotten this far without this forum and its members, thank you.
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#9 Jul 30, 2011
good job,to feel cured is great just dont reinfect.good job
UnhappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#10 Jul 30, 2011
Thanks.

Relating to the post, I just found this about asymptomatic scabies

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TLF...
"The authors say scabies actually can go down to the stratum granulosum layer of skin and that asymptomatic scabies, ie having scabies without symptoms, is more common than previously thought. Which is creepy, but explains why people probably get reinfected even if family members don't show symptoms."

Skin layers
http://www.fpnotebook.com/_media/DermSkinAnat...
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#11 Jul 30, 2011
UnhappySoul wrote:
Thanks.
Relating to the post, I just found this about asymptomatic scabies
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TLF...
"The authors say scabies actually can go down to the stratum granulosum layer of skin and that asymptomatic scabies, ie having scabies without symptoms, is more common than previously thought. Which is creepy, but explains why people probably get reinfected even if family members don't show symptoms."
Skin layers
http://www.fpnotebook.com/_media/DermSkinAnat...
omg that sounds just like me as i swear my skin seems to cope with them well till i started treating.im going to have a read and also copy this for doctor,haha i already have a few pages of info i have printed to show the doc,lol i feel like im in the front line of a war slowly being ambushed!!!!
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#12 Jul 30, 2011
you know what pisses me off is that i just read the article and it said,ill post it,The standard treatment of scabies has been the application of a prescription scabicide overnight to the entire body surface. The scalp is normally excluded with adults. for gods sake mate the doctor and demro told me they dont go on your head,i should actually print it out and send it to him. FUCKING USLESS PRICKS I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUE HIM FOR THE COSTS OF ALL THOSE TREATMENTS I DIDNT DO HEAD and reinfected myself/family my partner only treated head the other day with lice shampoo cause i made him!
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#13 Jul 30, 2011
WOW ALSO SAID THIS....Future treatment of scabies—vaccination
The immunization of a host with antigenic material, usually midgut proteins, from blood-feeding arthropods to control ectoparasitic infestations has gained recent interest. Insects fed on immunized hosts containing these antibodies are damaged by specific antibodies or immune complexes from the hosts' blood, resulting in rupture of the parasites' midgut. For example, cattle have been vaccinated successfully against both the blood-sucking tick, Boophilus microplus, and the louse, Linognathus vituli, by means of antigenic proteins from the tick gut. Initial work with scabies with similar midgut antibodies has been auspicious. Specifically, scabies mites ingest host immunoglobulin directed against the mites as identified by the localization of fluorescent-labeled antibody to host immunoglobulin in the anterior midgut and esophagus of fresh mites removed from the host [10]. This is significant in that scabies is a non-blood-feeding ectoparasite that ingests host antibody only while feeding on tissue fluid that seeps into the stratum corneum. Further immunization studies for scabies are warranted.
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#14 Jul 30, 2011
so they dont feed of your blood! thats what that article states!
UnhappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#15 Jul 30, 2011
The whole system has kept doctors ignorant so that they can profit money in anyway possible.
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#16 Jul 30, 2011
why isnt anyone doing anything about this???
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#17 Jul 30, 2011
itcher wrote:
you know what pisses me off is that i just read the article and it said,ill post it,The standard treatment of scabies has been the application of a prescription scabicide overnight to the entire body surface. The scalp is normally excluded with adults. for gods sake mate the doctor and demro told me they dont go on your head,i should actually print it out and send it to him. FUCKING USLESS PRICKS I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUE HIM FOR THE COSTS OF ALL THOSE TREATMENTS I DIDNT DO HEAD and reinfected myself/family my partner only treated head the other day with lice shampoo cause i made him!
normally aint good enought thats their little marketing tool to make you buy more!!!!EVERYONE SHOULD DO HEAD JUST INCASE OF REINFECTION,THATS WHAT IT SHOULD SAY!!!
UnhappySoul

Vancouver, Canada

#18 Jul 30, 2011
It goes straight to the top and the private owners of the Federal Reserve who are basically the owners of the crown of the common wealth countries.

Big pharma are medical terrorists, they were knowingly letting people get aids in America but when found out, they, with the knowledge of the American gov. spread it to other countries.

MSNNBC


"They" own that network too, they own everything. If doctors want to help people with alternative medicine, like even give them vitamin C, they can lose their licenses.

Its best to always research for yourself and they can never stop the internet.
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#19 Jul 30, 2011
yes my partner was telling me about that just the other day and i actually just fobbed it off! i just cant believe this goes on i think no one wants to stand and fight nowadays "arrogannce is bliss "
itcher

Bentley, Australia

#20 Jul 30, 2011
thanks unhappy :)
Me Too

Murrieta, CA

#21 Jul 30, 2011
Clove oil numbs the itching, it has been used for toothaches. Clove oil does not kill the eggs either.

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