I have got the scabies from my rabbit...

I have got the scabies from my rabbits. :(

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Nina

Englewood, CO

#1 Aug 11, 2008
Hey, I've noticed that my rabbits were itchy and losing hair but never thought it could be the scabies...anyway I went to the doctor today and he said that I and my mom have got the scabies...I have been worried and annoyed since then...he gave me a cream called Eurax and a soap called "Sulphur soap" that I have to shower with everyday...
and I am wondering for how long is it going to last?? and would I get rid of it forever? I have got lots of people living with me in the house that haven't got it yet and a six months old baby, is it harmful for the baby? please let me know....
MR AL

Aberdeen, WA

#2 Aug 11, 2008
Nina wrote:
Hey, I've noticed that my rabbits were itchy and losing hair but never thought it could be the scabies...anyway I went to the doctor today and he said that I and my mom have got the scabies...I have been worried and annoyed since then...he gave me a cream called Eurax and a soap called "Sulphur soap" that I have to shower with everyday...
and I am wondering for how long is it going to last?? and would I get rid of it forever? I have got lots of people living with me in the house that haven't got it yet and a six months old baby, is it harmful for the baby? please let me know....
Well depends some people been dealing with this for years. Make sure you clean up the entire house and do your laundry in Very hot water. Change all clothes every day and change your bedding. If people are living with you they also must be treated. Some peopld don't show signs of it and some do. It is wise to have everyone treat in the house. Eurax you must use it for 3 days straight without taking a bath or shower. That means you re apply it for 3 days without taking a bath. Then on the 3rd day you take a bath. Now for a 6 year old I would have to say consult your Doctor about that.
Welty

AOL

#3 Aug 12, 2008
Hopefully, the Rabbits are outside pets, it will make this a lot easier. Rabbits can be treated with Ivermectin shots, but they must be treated, too, if you want to be able to touch them, and those people will, like Al said, all need treating if you will ever get rid of this. Everybody needs to be treated or to move. Sulfer ointment is very reliable for a six month old that might be the best thing for them. But if everybody doesn't treat, you will have to treat again, and again and again. It's a cycle that you can stop by having everybody treat at once, before everybody gets burned out. It's worse than you think after a year, as many posters have, it's depressing. Early on, it's doable, everybody must pitch in though.
Nina

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#4 Aug 12, 2008
Thanks guys, I never knew it could be that bad!! I thought it was something that I could rid of in few days. I am very worried now and have only slept for 3 hours, not everyone in the house is taking it seriously, I told them to shower and get cleaned with a Sulphur soap but they wouldn't listen, rabbits were outside pets that lived in the garden...I have got rid of them now, is a hot sun enough to kill the mites they've left??
The doctor told me to use Eurax when I get an itch, he told me to use it on the spot that itches. He never said that I should apply it for 3 days without having a shower everyday. I have been showering the baby with the same soap as mine.
and I was wondering, if the sun can kill the mites in my body too? What about sea water?
Welty

AOL

#5 Aug 12, 2008
Sometimes it takes a period of maybe even years for animal sarcoptic mites to fully adapt to humans being able to carry out a life cycle on a different host. Sometimes they cause just a temporary rash that ceases when the animal is no longer in contact. Maybe that is the case with your mites, and the rabbits don't live inside. You can tend them with gloves and well, they'd never know the difference. If you have rashes in the webs of your fingers, then you have a classic case of scabies from another place. Get on this fast. In a case of rabbits, which do get sarcoptic mites, maybe breaking off contact with your rabbits, using gloves, is enough for you. Hot sun won't do anything for their mites. The vet can prescribe Ivermectin shots, and the cage will need disinfecting on a daily basis, with alchohol, or clorox. But, if their mites have adapted to humans and are reproducing on you, then they can probably infest anyone living with you. And in my opinion, these fully adapted mites are tougher to beat than human ones. Maybe it's because my cat lives inside with me. But your Doc is wrong. You need the Eurax for three days continuously. Or you can use a different topical, Permethrin, for l8 hours. Regardless, you probably need to repeat the treatment in another week, because eggs could be laid in that time under your skin, ready to hatch again. Like I said, you might not have had the continual contact with the rabbits enough to get the mites used to you enough to live on you and reproduce, but they can - there is a lot of stuff about it on vet websites, but it might be more common with pets that live inside with you and are around you a lot. But get a vet to look at them. They are suffering as much as you. Sea water, sun and other natural cures don't work for anybody. How do you think these have survived so long? And why people still have them for years if they don't use real meds? Good luck. I hope these are just "borrowing" you. Look at your and your son's hands. Could your child have picked them up from a playmate or you? Then for sure, treat everybody. Jump on it quick and treat again in a week. Everybody.
Nina

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#6 Aug 12, 2008
I've had the rabbits for like 7 months...and I have only noticed they're losing hair in the last 2 weeks...anyway I don't have the rabbits anymore, they are gone now....
I don't have rash on the webs of my fingers, only on my chest, thighs and sometimes my stomach...
it's not that bad yet, I only have few red spots, my mom's worse than me...
My doctor told me a hot sun would kill the mites on all blankets and clothes, our sun is very hot though it's like 44 c...is he wrong?
everyone in the house is starting to itch now, we have so many furniture that it would take months to clean them alone, what should I use to clean the carpet? do I have to wash my bed sheets everyday?
I hope so too, I've been depressed since I woke up and cleaning everything I could, and I can't see anyone, would I pass them to friends if I shake their hands? kiss them?
He is my nephew, and he's six MONTHS only, not years. if he picked anything then it's from me he doesn't have a playmate, I have been carrying him most of the time since he came to visit us on Sunday. And he's going to stay with us for a while too. I'd honestly feel very guilty if I pass them to him. I am just not sure what kind of a soap should I use for the baby? same one as mine? Please help. Thanks...
Mite Killer

United States

#7 Aug 12, 2008
Unless the rabbits have been exposed to wildlife that could be carrying sarcoptic mites, they could have picked up human scabies from an infested person touching them and sarcoptic mites DO NOT have host preference! So it makes no difference what varity the mites are. Sarcoptic mites are opportunistic and will infest any mammal host without any problem and don't go away on their own.

Sarcoptic mites are fragile and high dry heat kills them if they are directly exposed to it. After washing in hot water, blankets could be put on line in the hot sun all day but....it may not kill them.

Most of the mites are on the hosts so they have to treated with a scabicide. EVERYONE HAS TO BE TREATED FROM THE SCALP TO THE TOES with a scabicide stronger than Eurax. Eurax is only 50% effective.

See another MD.

Don't touch the rabbit area. any left over mites will be seeking a new host. I'd spray it down with permethrin.

Everyone treat at the same time. Cleaning should coordinate with treatment. Raid Fumigator bombs can be set off in the house(follow instructions on container)

Keep you home dry and warm. Mites thrive in moist climates.
Mite Killer

United States

#8 Aug 12, 2008
Tell the MD how many people have been exposed including the baby. If the MD won't give Rx for everyone, that MD is an idiot, find another MD.
Mite Killer

United States

#9 Aug 12, 2008
an explaination of why some people get a few bumps and then it goes away is:

they had one time and very limited exposure to a infested host and they were not infected with a male and a female mite or with a pregnant female mite. most likely this lucky person was exposed to only one or a few MALE SARCOPTIC MITES that live out the rest of the life cycle and die. Anyone who has constant exposure to infested host will eventually become infested too.

I guess most doctors don't think this through. Read about the life of sarcoptic mites. You need to know your enemy.
Nina

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#10 Aug 12, 2008
Thank you. I have showered three times today and used "Sulphur soap" each time. And the last time I showered, I used Eurax cream in all of my body since I am going to sleep soon...I have had my bed sheets all washed then I exposed them in a hot sun c 44 all day. I have showered the baby twice today and used the sulphur soap on him too, I hope that wont harm him?
There are like 30 people living in the house...And they would never get cleaned, they don't listen to me, they didn't take it seriously yet...so all I can do at the moment is clean myself and the baby since he doesn't complain.
When I told the doctor there was many people in the house, he was like let them buy the same soap as yours and use it...that's all...he didn't say that they should use Eurax too. just the soap...
So I am going to check another doctor next week and see what he says.
What's the shortest time that I can get rid of scabies in?
Mite Killer

United States

#11 Aug 12, 2008
Hi Nina,

Wow 30 people, I guess no doc would write that many Rx's.

Frequent showers and sulfur soap should keep the mite's numbers down. I've never been able to find sulfur soap in any store near me. Someone posted that Walgreens has it but not the Walgreen near me.

Where do people get their sulfur soap?????

Eurax is ok and may cure you but try to get some permethrin5%. Some Walmarts carry a 10% sulfur in petroleum in a white jar with yellow label, sold OTC near the pharmacy area. 10% sulfur is effective but is somewhat like Eurax and has to be left on the skin for long periods of time. Most drug stores sell a 2% sulfur product called Sulfur 8, it's a scalp treatment for dry skin or something. It's better than nothing if you run out of scabicides.
Too Long

Oak Harbor, WA

#12 Aug 12, 2008
Nina wrote:
I've had the rabbits for like 7 months...and I have only noticed they're losing hair in the last 2 weeks...anyway I don't have the rabbits anymore, they are gone now....
I don't have rash on the webs of my fingers, only on my chest, thighs and sometimes my stomach...
it's not that bad yet, I only have few red spots, my mom's worse than me...
My doctor told me a hot sun would kill the mites on all blankets and clothes, our sun is very hot though it's like 44 c...is he wrong?
everyone in the house is starting to itch now, we have so many furniture that it would take months to clean them alone, what should I use to clean the carpet? do I have to wash my bed sheets everyday?
I hope so too, I've been depressed since I woke up and cleaning everything I could, and I can't see anyone, would I pass them to friends if I shake their hands? kiss them?
He is my nephew, and he's six MONTHS only, not years. if he picked anything then it's from me he doesn't have a playmate, I have been carrying him most of the time since he came to visit us on Sunday. And he's going to stay with us for a while too. I'd honestly feel very guilty if I pass them to him. I am just not sure what kind of a soap should I use for the baby? same one as mine? Please help. Thanks...

Hey Nina, you can get some "pomada de azufre" sulfur ointment at a walmart probably or if you can go to a pharmacy that does compounding, ask them for "humco" sublimed sulfur and add that to some really oily lotion or vaseline and smear it all over your self every day for at least 3 nights in a row, leave it on for as long as you can at least 8 hours. Sulfur can be harsh on your skin, so take a break after 3 days and then start again, some people say wear for a week then take a break. Keep doing the
laundry in the hottest water and use non -chlorine bleach and borax or
just regular bleach and blorax ( for white things) I don't think the soap
is strong enough to do much because then you just wash it off anyway.
Keep up the cleaning. This is a difficult situation you are in, with all of the people not wanting to treat. Another thing you can do is scrub down with some of those bath salt scrubs you see at the store. They have cheap brands at the dollar store. Some people use epsom salt as a scrub for body, they mix it with hot water, I would not use this on the baby. If this doesn't get better with the sulfur , get back to the Dr. and tell him/ her
your rash isn't getting better. Some people are sensitive to sulfur, but sounds like you are doing o.k. with the soap.
The recipe for powdered sulfur is 1 tablespoon sulfur to 9 tablespoons of
vaseline . See how things look and feel after a week. Write back and ask more questions. Let us know how you are doing! Good luck -p.s. don't feel guilty, it's not your fault- these things happen ----TL
Nina

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#13 Aug 13, 2008
Thank you guys.
I have questions in my mind.
1) Is showering the baby twice a day and using sulfur soap on him wont hurt him in any way?
2) Can I still see friends touch them etc? or would that make them get mites from me?
3) If I had a bath tub all day with a sulfur soap on it, would it kill them all?
4) DO the mites go to peoples hair, face?
5) Would the mites go to the chairs I sit on? or anything that is made of wood, iron or plastic?

I keep thinking that the mites are going everywhere in my room even the tissues, if they don't it would be a big relief for me so please let me know...

I can't leave Eurax on my body more than 12 hours because I feel so dirty until I shower again.
I will replace it soon, I am seeing the doctor again on Monday.

Thanks again, I appreciate your answers!
MR AL

Aberdeen, WA

#14 Aug 13, 2008
Nina wrote:
Thank you guys.
I have questions in my mind.
1) Is showering the baby twice a day and using sulfur soap on him wont hurt him in any way?
2) Can I still see friends touch them etc? or would that make them get mites from me?
3) If I had a bath tub all day with a sulfur soap on it, would it kill them all?
4) DO the mites go to peoples hair, face?
5) Would the mites go to the chairs I sit on? or anything that is made of wood, iron or plastic?
I keep thinking that the mites are going everywhere in my room even the tissues, if they don't it would be a big relief for me so please let me know...
I can't leave Eurax on my body more than 12 hours because I feel so dirty until I shower again.
I will replace it soon, I am seeing the doctor again on Monday.
Thanks again, I appreciate your answers!
Showering your child 2 times a day wont hurt him but he can end up with very very dry skin. Make sure you watch that and make sure you use plenty of moisturizing lotion for you and him after you use the soap. You will probably want to get that sulfer mix because the soap is not enough. Mites are very contagious nothing to play with so I would keep your child away from people until you are your child are cured of this. Sulfer soap alone will not kill them all and yes they can get on your face in your hair anywhere you have skin. They can get in your clothes, furniture and anything an infested person will touch. Now the people that lives with you better start taking this serious because if not you all will not be cured of this. There are people infested with mites for years on end.. Your laundry is key. If you dont get the mites out of your clothes then they will still re infest you. Make sure that you wash them on very very hot water.
Nina

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#15 Aug 13, 2008
Thank you MR AL.

Depressing answers, seems like I will never be cured then, I can't believe they still didn't make a medicine that kills them all at once.
The child doesn't have it yet I am just trying to protect him from my mites until he goes back home safe.
I don't know what the Sulfer mix is I Googled it and no results. I guess my doctor didn't give it to me b.c my scabies isn't that bad yet.

I have 2 more questions...
1) Do the mites get in the food I eat? is it possible that they get in my stomach? what happens to them when they go inside me?
2) I heard that I'd be losing my head hair, is it true?:(

I have been trying to see myself in the future with scabies, it sucks, would I get accepted in University even if they knew I have it...I guess not...What about getting a job...SO many thoughts in my mind that are killing me slowly.
Donna Rogers

AOL

#16 Aug 13, 2008
Hey guys, You are all freaking me out here.....
I do not have a scabies issue, but I am pretty sure I could help you out. sulpher and vasoline. that is what we call bag balm. bag balm is what we used on our horses, though it is made for cows udders (tits), I no longer have horses, however I keep the stuff to put on my feet (hubby gives great foot massages). would the vasoline smother the mites? I think it would. can mites get into your hair? If the answer is yes, I promise you they would die with a blow dryer, just over dry the hair. Look i am not a vet, dr or medical person, I am just a breeder of chinese crested dogs. but here is what I would do. buy hibiclens, soap it over your body, leave it on for 6 minutes (DO NOT GET IT IN YOUR EYES< ANUS< VAGINA neck down only) rinse, follow with a coat of bag balm from neck to toes. Hibiclens is what you use to clean yourself pre surgery and is sold at walmart for 5 bux. tiny amount needed. I would sleep in the bagbalm and repeat all in 7 days. hibiclens is drying, bagbalm is oily.
10 years ago my 2 grandson got lice from school
I bought the rid stuff and did all they said to do. My grandson had them again 2 weeks later. I pulled 6 lice bugs from his hair with the comb. I thought they were dead,because they were still as heck, but they sorta came back to life :( Horrified I got 2 tall clear glass glasses seperated the lice bugs. In one cup i put the rid right on the bugs, in the other cup I put my blow dryer to the rim. The heat from the blow dryer killed them dead dead and i mean fast. the cup with the bugs with strait rid still squirmed. did I just get a bad batch of rid???? it cost me a lot!!!
I went over my grandsons head with the comb to make sure i got them all out, and I then blow dried his hair till his head was hot. They stayed gone forever and he is 16 now. and thats the only time i delt with them. Mites are smaller than lice by far, My best guess is that heat would kill mites even faster. I wish i had tested hot water, but I didnt.
Donna Rogers

AOL

#17 Aug 13, 2008
Nina, sweetie. your life is not over. it is very fixable. from mayo clinic......Scabies is an itchy skin condition caused by a tiny, eight-legged burrowing mite called Sarcoptes scabiei. The presence of the mite leads to intense itching in the area of its burrows. The urge to scratch may be especially strong while you're in bed at night.

Scabies is contagious and can spread quickly through close physical contact in a family, child care group, school class or nursing home. Because of the contagious nature of scabies, doctors often recommend treatment for entire families or contact groups to eliminate the mite.

Take heart in that scabies is readily treated. Medications applied to your skin kill the mites that cause scabies, although you may still experience some itching for several weeks.
Mite Killer

United States

#18 Aug 13, 2008
Thanks for coming on the forum and spending time trying to help here, it's very much appreciated. I don't mean to disrespect anything you posted, your posts are valuable. I'm simply going to give my input about your suggestions.

Can't compare sarcoptic mites to lice. Mites burrow and are protected under the stratum corneum layer of skin and in hair follicles which makes them much more difficult to kill than lice. Mites feed on dead skin and lay their eggs under the skin in burrows. Lice are on the skin's surface and are blood feeders and lay their eggs on hair shafts. Lice are much easier to kill than sarcoptic mites.

A hot blow dryer may kill mites that have not burrowed and are on the surface but certainly there are mites under the scalp that won't be affected by the heat. And mites can quickly dig into the skin for protection from the heat.

The Bag Balm you mention does not have a high enough % of sulfur to kill mites. It could act as somewhat of a repellent though. The petroleum may suffocate some of the mites but I would not count on it. I'd would use a 10% sublimed sulfur in petroleum.

The active ingredients of Bag Balm are 8-hydroxyquinoline sulfate 0.3%(antiseptic) in a petrolatum and lanolin base.

For adults, the recommended scabies treatment is 10% sulfur. It also must be kept on the body for days to be effective. Some folks find sulfer to be a skin irritant and can't leave it on for the long periods of time that is required to kill sarcoptic mite.

It's a very good idea to prevent and treat for infections that are common with scabies.
Mite Killer

United States

#19 Aug 13, 2008
Donna sweety,
Nina lives in a home with 30 other people that refuse to be treated? Scabies is highly contagious. If these poeple don't treat it's very likely Nina will be reinfested.

It's nice that you want to console but unless you have been exposed and infested with sarcoptic mites, you don't have a clue about what it's like. You would freaking out too!!!!!!!!!!
MR AL

Aberdeen, WA

#20 Aug 14, 2008
Nina wrote:
Thank you MR AL.
Depressing answers, seems like I will never be cured then, I can't believe they still didn't make a medicine that kills them all at once.
The child doesn't have it yet I am just trying to protect him from my mites until he goes back home safe.
I don't know what the Sulfer mix is I Googled it and no results. I guess my doctor didn't give it to me b.c my scabies isn't that bad yet.
I have 2 more questions...
1) Do the mites get in the food I eat? is it possible that they get in my stomach? what happens to them when they go inside me?
2) I heard that I'd be losing my head hair, is it true?:(
I have been trying to see myself in the future with scabies, it sucks, would I get accepted in University even if they knew I have it...I guess not...What about getting a job...SO many thoughts in my mind that are killing me slowly.
Nina the mites could get in your food why not? But it cannot survive in your stomach. Scabies and some mites are just pest. They just make your life well you know.. It wont kill you. Seriously if you want to live with this those people needs to take this stuff seriously. Some people can handle living with it but for me I cannot and will not tolerate the worst itch known to man. I would rather have genital warts before having scabies it is not that easy to get rid of if you have issues such as living with alot of people that by the way if you can I would probably move from there. You can get rid of it and it starts with your clothes. I mean it would be nice if a bottle of lotion really can cure you right? The Docs have no true clue about scabies.

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