FRED

Golden, CO

#566 Aug 6, 2013
shondatime wrote:
<quoted text>
Olive Leaf? Anamu? Chanca Piedra? Using herbs to cure Scabies? That is a unique approach. Were you cured by these?
Very interesting. Chanca Piedra is for ridding the body of kidney stones. The meds cured me. And yes, I did experience the Herxheimer Reaction which was severe and required a ER visit.
The scabies aspect is really just minor compared to the diseases that having a mite infection will pass on to a person. These infections cause very similar skin symptoms to scabies so a person can start out with scabies and get rid of them but not be aware of it because they are still having symptoms. A person can also come under the impression that they have scabies because they have acquired those infections from another source and are experiencing those symptoms, then they come to this forum and expose themselves to toxic treatments and the infections get worse.

When someone says they have scabies on their scalp in their ears and nose that is a dead giveaway that they have other infections.

The mite infections themselves are usually fed by the person being infected with a fungal or candida infection because then the person is essentially rotting and that attracts them.

That is what is going on in this forum, there are a lot of veterans who have been fighting "scabies" for years and can never get it cured because that isn't the problem.

Yes herbs actually are more powerful than man made treatments but what people try to do is force the herbal results into the same model that man made treatments are supposed to demonstrate. They work differently and you have to know how to work them.

In order for herbs to work you have to utilize polypharmacy, pharmacodynamic synergy and pharmacokenetic synergy.

Sometimes through a variety of treatments people will be able to reduce their own body's bacterial and pathogen load and then their symptoms go away and they are under the impression they are cured until the infection load builds back up which could take a long time. If you ever had a mite infection or lice or even bitten by many other insects you more than likely are carrying an infection like this or a collection of them.These can be Bartonella, Babesia, Borrielia, Erlichia, mycoplasma and many more. Bartonella is one that shuts down your immune system by releasing chemicals so it can take over your body.

That is what is actually happening here at the "scabies" forum.

I tried to document this and provide a cure on this thread, some posts were pulled by moderators and then there is a bunch of junk posted there by the resident troll but if you read the thread and supporting evidence you will come to understand that the mite infection is actually minor and it is likely people actually have something else.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...

For a complete
FRED

Golden, CO

#567 Aug 6, 2013
Joe

Warrenton, MO

#568 Aug 6, 2013
I've been dealing with this for to long also, gonna try the bleach baths... tried vinager and it was working a little but was hard on the skin and really burned...might mix some in with the bleach, maybe to toxic..Oh well gotta try something. I'll try and let you all know how it worked.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#569 Aug 6, 2013
FRED wrote:
Fred, this is very interesting. I remember reading how Brazilians use the bark of a tree to make a tea to drink, or bathe in that protects and rids them of these parasites. And that is in the Amazons! Were you cured withe these plant based extracts? Or did you have any personal experience or benefit with them?
Patriot

Danville, CA

#570 Aug 29, 2013
Clean ur self up wrote:
How about u all stop living like dogs and live in a clean environment. Can't believe people still get scabies these days... It's a medieval pestilence that beggars and street scum used to get. Where do u people all live!? India?
Sometimes our service heroes contract things (like scabies) while serving our great nation in filthy places. Then, when they return home, they inadvertently pass these things on to loved ones, as simply as giving a hug or sharing clothing. Since you claim to know the definition of pestilence, stop being one. Help or leave.
Arek

Paso Robles, CA

#571 Sep 1, 2013
to kill scabies take a bath in MMS and DMSO.. kills them one time done gone your good. you can also do laundry with mms, clean with mms, I found steam cleaner with mms kills them in carpets, although I dunno about the implications of steam mms over dosing you... but google MMS SCABIES... or jimhumble.biz
Can only imagine they will delete this post due to the fact that the establishment HATES MMS because there medications go obsolete
GettingFree

Chula Vista, CA

#572 Sep 7, 2013
Arek wrote:
to kill scabies take a bath in MMS and DMSO.. kills them one time done gone your good. you can also do laundry with mms, clean with mms, I found steam cleaner with mms kills them in carpets, although I dunno about the implications of steam mms over dosing you... but google MMS SCABIES... or jimhumble.biz
Can only imagine they will delete this post due to the fact that the establishment HATES MMS because there medications go obsolete
I was considering the MMS, but first I tried Kleen Green (enzymes). It has worked for me and my skin has calmed down. I started it on August 24, so I have been using it for two weeks now (both my husband and me). Neither of us have had any new bites since the first 24 hours. Itching is gone now.

The MMS would have worked much more quickly.

I do hope no one posts that MMS is bleach, because it isn't.

Those who think it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#573 Sep 7, 2013
GettingFree wrote:
<quoted text>
I was considering the MMS, but first I tried Kleen Green (enzymes). It has worked for me and my skin has calmed down. I started it on August 24, so I have been using it for two weeks now (both my husband and me). Neither of us have had any new bites since the first 24 hours. Itching is gone now.
The MMS would have worked much more quickly.
I do hope no one posts that MMS is bleach, because it isn't.
Those who think it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.
You are a KLEEN GREEN SALES PERSON. Kleen Green does not cure scabies or any parasitic infestation. Quit lying to people on this forum.
Why are you even mentioning MMS when you are a Kleen Green sales person. Attention, newbies, don't buy it. It doesn't work. Stay off their website. Their stuff does not cure scabies.
FRED

Golden, CO

#574 Sep 7, 2013
vss wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a KLEEN GREEN SALES PERSON. Kleen Green does not cure scabies or any parasitic infestation. Quit lying to people on this forum.
Why are you even mentioning MMS when you are a Kleen Green sales person. Attention, newbies, don't buy it. It doesn't work. Stay off their website. Their stuff does not cure scabies.
The typical pattern with VSS is that she drinks heavily on Saturdays so her posts become even more over the top, if that's possible.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#575 Sep 7, 2013
FRED wrote:
<quoted text>
The typical pattern with VSS is that she drinks heavily on Saturdays so her posts become even more over the top, if that's possible.
Oh, great, you are back. You just can't give it up, can you? You have NO LIFE... NO DISEASE... except psychological OCD problems. I'm just keeping my eye out on you guys, that's all. When I see a bunch of psycho babble, and then they non chalantly mention DE on the end of their post, it is a DEAD giveaway... This doesn't have anything to do with drinking. God only knows what you are drinking there in your apartment, "Fred."
vss

Hollywood, FL

#576 Sep 7, 2013
Oh, I forgot, you are drinking raspberry smoothies. And it cured your "morgellons." lol.... dumb arse.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#577 Sep 7, 2013
FRED wrote:
<quoted text>
The scabies aspect is really just minor compared to the diseases that having a mite infection will pass on to a person. These infections cause very similar skin symptoms to scabies so a person can start out with scabies and get rid of them but not be aware of it because they are still having symptoms. A person can also come under the impression that they have scabies because they have acquired those infections from another source and are experiencing those symptoms, then they come to this forum and expose themselves to toxic treatments and the infections get worse.
When someone says they have scabies on their scalp in their ears and nose that is a dead giveaway that they have other infections.
The mite infections themselves are usually fed by the person being infected with a fungal or candida infection because then the person is essentially rotting and that attracts them.
That is what is going on in this forum, there are a lot of veterans who have been fighting "scabies" for years and can never get it cured because that isn't the problem.
Yes herbs actually are more powerful than man made treatments but what people try to do is force the herbal results into the same model that man made treatments are supposed to demonstrate. They work differently and you have to know how to work them.
In order for herbs to work you have to utilize polypharmacy, pharmacodynamic synergy and pharmacokenetic synergy.
Sometimes through a variety of treatments people will be able to reduce their own body's bacterial and pathogen load and then their symptoms go away and they are under the impression they are cured until the infection load builds back up which could take a long time. If you ever had a mite infection or lice or even bitten by many other insects you more than likely are carrying an infection like this or a collection of them.These can be Bartonella, Babesia, Borrielia, Erlichia, mycoplasma and many more. Bartonella is one that shuts down your immune system by releasing chemicals so it can take over your body.
That is what is actually happening here at the "scabies" forum.
I tried to document this and provide a cure on this thread, some posts were pulled by moderators and then there is a bunch of junk posted there by the resident troll but if you read the thread and supporting evidence you will come to understand that the mite infection is actually minor and it is likely people actually have something else.
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TP8...
For a complete
Or a person can be cured of scabies and get the hell out of dodge and reading sh*t like you post. You nut job.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#578 Sep 7, 2013
Arek wrote:
to kill scabies take a bath in MMS and DMSO.. kills them one time done gone your good. you can also do laundry with mms, clean with mms, I found steam cleaner with mms kills them in carpets, although I dunno about the implications of steam mms over dosing you... but google MMS SCABIES... or jimhumble.biz
Can only imagine they will delete this post due to the fact that the establishment HATES MMS because there medications go obsolete
The correct term is MSM- METHYLSULFONYLMETHANE

Also if your allergic to sulphur/sulfur in medications stay away from DMSO.Wheras MSM is safe. I am allergic to DMSO and have been using MSM without problems.

Also I take it you watched this video.



This video also states how dangerous combining both sulphurs can be, directly on your skin and using large amounts. Burning DMSO is toxic so I would not be inhaling DMSO steam in the bath.
vss

Hollywood, FL

#579 Sep 7, 2013
Scabiesxnightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
The correct term is MSM- METHYLSULFONYLMETHANE
Also if your allergic to sulphur/sulfur in medications stay away from DMSO.Wheras MSM is safe. I am allergic to DMSO and have been using MSM without problems.
Also I take it you watched this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Z6pZlWp2QcUXX
This video also states how dangerous combining both sulphurs can be, directly on your skin and using large amounts. Burning DMSO is toxic so I would not be inhaling DMSO steam in the bath.
No, they were talking about MMS.... not msm....
they were speaking about bathing in it. You don't bath in msm...
OMG you guys....are.... funny.
But Fred isn't funny. He is SICK....

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#580 Sep 7, 2013
vss wrote:
<quoted text>
No, they were talking about MMS.... not msm....
they were speaking about bathing in it. You don't bath in msm...
OMG you guys....are.... funny.
But Fred isn't funny. He is SICK....
whats MMS?

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#581 Sep 7, 2013
ignore my stupid question....looked it up, was being lazy...
Carrie gratton

Fredericton, Canada

#582 Sep 11, 2013
Any drugstore you can buy NIX Dermal Cream Permethrin 5% cream for about $22 Canadian just ask pharmacist dude!!!! Good luck!
stressed and freaked out

Kent, WA

#583 Sep 12, 2013
I came down with this awful itching about 10 days or so ago. My first thought was "scabies!" I missed my appointment with my doc and need to get up the energy to drag myself in to the Walk In Clinic.
I am so sleep deprived it's not funny. And so itchy it's disgusting!
So, I start scratching my chest and my back in search of relief. I used the premeth 5% and got a little relief for a little while.
The itch is back, I have a white puss filled thing on my eyelid. Most likely a stye and now I have 2 huge bumps under my arms.(almost boil or cyst-like) My scalp feels like it's crawling. I haven't had a decent amount of sleep since this itch began :(
WTH? Could all of these "symptoms" be related?
I am tempted to try the bleach bath but I'm pretty sure the areas that I've scratched will burn and sting pretty bad. I've taken pics of my back and tummy to compare the red bumps with the pics of scabies on line. There really is no similarity visually.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? and To all who have tried the bleach bath, did you have open wounds or scratches and how bad did it hurt once you sat in the tub?
GettingFree

Chula Vista, CA

#584 Sep 18, 2013
vss wrote:
<quoted text>
"You are a KLEEN GREEN SALES PERSON. Kleen Green does not cure scabies or any parasitic infestation. Quit lying to people on this forum.
Why are you even mentioning MMS when you are a Kleen Green sales person. Attention, newbies, don't buy it. It doesn't work. Stay off their website. Their stuff does not cure scabies."
LOL--anyone who has found anything that worked for them is selling a product. Well, it has been about 3 1/2 weeks now and Kleen Green has worked for both me and my husband.

I would love to see your evidence that anyone on this forum is pushing a product that they are selling. Your comments don't even rise to the level of CIRCUMSTANTIAL. Perhaps all that perm and iver has affected your ability to know the difference between fantasy and reality.

So here is my comment to you ... you are an abusive drunk. And Fred was wrong about your only drinking on weekends. While I haven't counted your numerous posts, I have noticed that the acid content is about 90 to 95%, making you part of the problem and not the solution.

The Kleen Green may not work for everyone, but it did for my husband and me. We followed directions explicitly and were patient and persistent. We sprayed 4 times a day and massaged into skin--all over. We showered with 10% sulfur soap in the morning and sometimes in the afternoon. Our skin is back to normal and neither of us have suffered any side effects.

In addition, I think it is very good advice to be aware of secondary infections,including bacterial, viral, and other parasites. Everyone should thank Fred for his posts--he does try to be helpful. I am surprised that you, vss, have not been banned for your abuse.

Those who believe it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those doing it!!
GettingFree

Chula Vista, CA

#585 Sep 18, 2013
I forgot to mention that Kleen Green is concentrated and is to be diluted 1:7. That is 1 oz Kleen Green to 7 oz. water.(I used RO water.)

I bought a half gallon to try, then bought the gallon size.

1 gallon mixes to 8 gallons of treatment for body and to spray furniture. You can use 1 to 2 ounces undiluted for each laundry load.

I gave a half gallon away and still have plenty left over.

I washed bedding in hot water, and borax (drying on high), and only used Kleen Green on my clothes, which could not be washed in that manner.

If anyone has actually used this product, I would love to hear about it and whether you used it as directed. I only have my experience.

If you have a derogatory comment, and have not tried the product as per instructions, your comments will be of no value to anyone.

My husband and I own a drapery manufacturing company and fabricate hotel window coverings.

Those who believe it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those doing it.

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