bleach bath recommended by dermatologist

[Leslie]

How did you get rid of it?!!!?

[Shonda]

I take the bleach baths regularly and my skin doesn't seem to burn or anything like that, I usually get it out and put on a lot of lotion because it seems to dry my skin but actually it makes my body feel a lot cleaner than just taking a bath with regular soap. Been doing it for a year now and no problems at all.

[creeper]

really wrote:

I am doing bleach baths. I have a severe itch for the past year, mostly the groin, but also a patch under my left breast, and it started to spread to my left thigh and elbows. It has thickened and darkened the skin in those areas. The last 2-3 weeks it was becoming so severe I thought I would rip skin down to bone from the scratch. I have been using hydrocortisone and diphenhydramine creams for the past years. I also tried tea tree oil, Aveeno oatmeal soaks, yeast treatments, and oral antibiotics.
Last week it looked a lot like hives. The bleach baths have worked very well! The lesions dried up within 2 days and the itch has decreased, I would say, about 80%. The bleach does not sting at all. I have not lost any hair. NO side effects. After the bath I rinse well and then use lotion all over. The first 2 days I used cocoa butter on the rough areas and anti-itch creams on the groin, which was the worst area. The past few days I have used Curel lotion. The thickened areas also don't feel as rough as they did.
I used 10 caps of the lavender Chlorox to a full tub, and also added a small amount of anitbacterial soap. I soaked about 20 minutes.
There are literally thousands of causes of pruritis (itchiness). It could be insects (scabies/mites, lice, bedbugs, ants), fungus (ringworm), allergy/ezcema, even hormonal/stress. I did have surgery last year, a hysterectomy, and the extreme itch start a couple of months later, but I also have a job where I am exposed to scabies and ringworm on a regular basis, although I know I have touched both and never had any reaction before. I did also have amssive stress in my life. I also live in the top allergen state, which also has biting ants, mosquitoes, and other critters. There is also a bedbug infestation known to be in the state. So I guess, bottom line for me, it doesn't actually matter what the cause is, but I am sharing with everyone that the bleach bath was safe and effective for me to deal with my dermatitis.
I also think, when looking back, that I did always have a very mild form of the itch for decades, so I think for me ezcema and hormonal stress after surgery is the most likely culprit that made it flare out of control.
Also there is no overwhelming fumes with the bleach. It actually makes my house smell clean and helps with cleaning the bathtub, which does have mold, which is another culprit for itch. I will probably add bleach to my next wash too.

hello i have ben battling this for a few months. I dont know what kind of mites it is it goes to different places that the typical scabies mites go to , but what i want to know does the bleach bath work AND HOE DO I DISINFECT MY CAR

[Ghon]

creeper,

Get a USB microscope that has at least 200x magnification, so you can see them. Definitely clean your car!

[lyle]

Im ready to blow a gasket! My Wife and Myself got what was considered scabies per the doctor visit. 11/19 got prescription for doc for permethrin 5%. We each used one tube, but it doesn't really cover all your body very through. I guess I will call again tomorrow as it is now dec 20th and we still believe we are infected. I have read countless articles and web posting on how to cure, and it appears no one has really come up with a cure. Do I go and spend 200.00 on 4 tubes of perm if the doc will give me more? Do i ask for the oral pills instead? what? this is frustrating!

[cindilu]

lyle wrote:

Im ready to blow a gasket! My Wife and Myself got what was considered scabies per the doctor visit. 11/19 got prescription for doc for permethrin 5%. We each used one tube, but it doesn't really cover all your body very through. I guess I will call again tomorrow as it is now dec 20th and we still believe we are infected. I have read countless articles and web posting on how to cure, and it appears no one has really come up with a cure. Do I go and spend 200.00 on 4 tubes of perm if the doc will give me more? Do i ask for the oral pills instead? what? this is frustrating!

Hell no! Buy the good stuff for $7! It's what all of us are using! Freedom 45 for extra large dogs, it is Permethrin 45%. And you order at least 3 or 4 double-tubettes at one time from ValleyVet.com

You don't need a prescription either. The Permethrin 5% Cream is too weak to have any effect on Scabies mites of 2012-13. The mites have evolved and are resistant to everything. But please prove me wrong if you know of a cure, there's about a hundred of us on this forum looking for a cure. And we've done them all!

[sweetkitten]

cindilu wrote:

<quoted text>Hell no! Buy the good stuff for $7! It's what all of us are using! Freedom 45 for extra large dogs, it is Permethrin 45%. And you order at least 3 or 4 double-tubettes at one time from ValleyVet.com

You don't need a prescription either. The Permethrin 5% Cream is too weak to have any effect on Scabies mites of 2012-13. The mites have evolved and are resistant to everything. But please prove me wrong if you know of a cure, there's about a hundred of us on this forum looking for a cure. And we've done them all!

Ain't that the truth!

[Leslie]

sweet kittcn i saw a post from u on another blog that said you were cured with ivermectin/stromectol internal and permethrin ( unsure if it was 5 or 45%) doing it straight for 8 days- double the dosage- so ...are u cured or arent you???? And cindilu...y would you tell someone to use permethrin for dogs, 45% if it didnt cure you?!? People are hurting and if you arent cured I would strongly recommend people stop giving advice- unless it's a CURE. That is what people come here for and I believe the people that stopped coming here, are cured...except for a few (like perhaps Mite Warrior); most people never come back to the blogs once they're cured...

[cindilu]

Leslie wrote:

sweet kittcn i saw a post from u on another blog that said you were cured with ivermectin/stromectol internal and permethrin ( unsure if it was 5 or 45%) doing it straight for 8 days- double the dosage- so ...are u cured or arent you???? And cindilu...y would you tell someone to use permethrin for dogs, 45% if it didnt cure you?!? People are hurting and if you arent cured I would strongly recommend people stop giving advice- unless it's a CURE. That is what people come here for and I believe the people that stopped coming here, are cured...except for a few (like perhaps Mite Warrior); most people never come back to the blogs once they're cured...

Heads up Leslie, there is NO cure! Only the most effective methods to manage the condition. Everyone on this forum is or has used 45% Permethrin for Dogs because the drug companies and the CDC have not focused their efforts on humans in over 20 years! They make more money on animals than humans. But even so, the latest stuff for animals does not cure humans. The mites have a gene that allows them to evolve and they become resistant to these things. So don't come off being so self righteous when you obviously don't know what you are talking about. If a person can't be cured the most they can hope for is to manage the infestation. 45% Permethrin is the most effective yet it's still not enough.

[Tainted Luv]

amybelle wrote:

Hi Confused, you're not the only one - confused that is ! The problem must surely be to get the mixture strong enough to kill the mites, without hurting your skin, or passing out with the fumes !
Still, I think it's worth a try, if only to kill surface crawlers.
What percentage chlorine to water did you derm. tell you ?

Use 10% bleach...1/2-1 cup for full tub of water.
This will dry you out a bit, but you should not have any burning effects..... You can also add about 2 capfulls of Tee Tree oil to the water with the bleach, it will NOT hurt you...No chemical reaction. I have tried EVERYTHING so far, the crawling feeling sucks!
I just used the following, wAITING on results..Hope they are dead.

10% Bleach
Hot water- Full Tub
2 capfulls of Tee Tree oil
Washed in Sulfur soap..left on for a few min
After drying off:
Applied Neem/Aloe Gel

[Anonymous]

Cure?? I had luck with 4 rounds of Ivermectin - a few tubes of perm and then I found this forum and wised up. Borax/hydogen peroxide scrubs everywhere, everyday, and then a 50/50 bleach/water spray down from head to toe. Did that for almost 4 solid weeks twice a day (heavier spraying of bleach at night), including cleaning, new sheets towels & fresh clothing every day, washing all in hot water with detergent & borax. Cleaned my car several times and put a black plastic trash bag over my seat, plastic drop clothes on my computer chair and on the sofa. Put the remote to the TV in a baggie. OOO and treat your jewelry and personal items, like razors, or just throw away & get new.

10 weeks later now I only have a few scars left where the scabs were.

[Gene-ette]

Cindilu,
In response to, "Buy the good stuff for $7! It's what all of us are using! Freedom 45 for extra large dogs, it is Permethrin 45%. And you order at least 3 or 4 double-tubettes at one time from ValleyVet.com "
I only find Freedom Spot On for $7.89. Is this what you are talking about?
Then, how often do you apply? Doesn't look like it would go very far. Just use on eruptions? Near eyes?
Thanks.
Gene

[Lyle]

I just did the permethrin cream thing two times and have taken baths in sea salt, borax, and hydrogen proxide, both My Wife and Me. After 2 months, we may be getting this thing beaten. Neither of us are itching right now, but we will see. My Wife has been cleaning house and washing and bagging all clothes for over a month. I will post in a few days to report back.

[Lyle]

So now is what you people are saying is that there is no cure for it? Are any of you doctor's, or is it just your opinion that there is no cure for it? I guess if what I'm trying won't work my next stop is talking to a Dermatologist. I will spend whatever I have to get this handled, one way or another.

[sweetkitten]

Lyle wrote:

So now is what you people are saying is that there is no cure for it? Are any of you doctor's, or is it just your opinion that there is no cure for it? I guess if what I'm trying won't work my next stop is talking to a Dermatologist. I will spend whatever I have to get this handled, one way or another.

The doctors / medical community has it's hands tied because there are no new treatment protocols, no new meds or methods for them to use to cure their patients with. I have spent so much money on doctors and specialists and even traveled to other states to be tested and seen by medical school professors and the mites have evolved like the other poster says and there is nothing the docs can do about it.

Why would we be here, on this thread if we weren't cured. We can't all be psychotic!

It's true the drug companies have not developed any new drugs in more than 20 years to cure Scabies. They have improved on the drugs for animals but that is because they make more money from animal cures than human cures. Trust me, when you've suffered as long as I have, and reached out to as many so called experts as I have, it's a real eye opener.

Every month someone comes on this forum and suggests a new approach to curing Scabies, and after 3 or 4 months everyone concludes that it did not cure. So we move on to the next new thing.

I have tried them all. The latest new thing is the Borax Cure. There is a oral and topical approach. My body couldn't tolerate the drink but I've been applying the topical Borax for 2 or 3 months and it does help, but not cure. You have to consider that even if you completely cover your body every time with the Borax mixture, there is a female mite that is going to be able to avoid it and survive. One of them surviving can cause a out of control infestation. Just 1.

[cindilu]

Gene-ette wrote:

Cindilu,
In response to, "Buy the good stuff for $7! It's what all of us are using! Freedom 45 for extra large dogs, it is Permethrin 45%. And you order at least 3 or 4 double-tubettes at one time from ValleyVet.com "
I only find Freedom Spot On for $7.89. Is this what you are talking about?
Then, how often do you apply? Doesn't look like it would go very far. Just use on eruptions? Near eyes?
Thanks.
Gene

Yes. They come two tubettes per package so buy 3 or 4 packages at one time to save money. They are $7 a package plus a $7 per order fee no matter how many you buy and shipping is free and usually arrives in three business days.

Well if you have Scabies you should rub on 2 tubettes over your entire body because they really hate this stuff and will travel away from areas your skin has it applied. So don't give them a safe place! And keep it on your skin 8-14 hours before bathing. Apply it every day! I'm applying it four days on, then four days off I apply the topical borax with hydrogen peroxide and I haven't had any recent outbreaks. I am hoping the borax will cure over time. But the 45% perm knocks them back and the objective is to kill as many as possible. Freedom 45 is safe, and will not damage your skin or nerves. Been using it for months.

[cindilu]

Sweet Kitten is right. She is telling you the truth!

[fred]

cindilu wrote:

<quoted text>
Yes. They come two tubettes per package so buy 3 or 4 packages at one time to save money. They are $7 a package plus a $7 per order fee no matter how many you buy and shipping is free and usually arrives in three business days.
Well if you have Scabies you should rub on 2 tubettes over your entire body because they really hate this stuff and will travel away from areas your skin has it applied. So don't give them a safe place! And keep it on your skin 8-14 hours before bathing. Apply it every day! I'm applying it four days on, then four days off I apply the topical borax with hydrogen peroxide and I haven't had any recent outbreaks. I am hoping the borax will cure over time. But the 45% perm knocks them back and the objective is to kill as many as possible. Freedom 45 is safe, and will not damage your skin or nerves. Been using it for months.

45% permethrin will cause way more health problems than it solves.It is some of the worst possible advice. It will generate a toxicity problem in your body which will mimic the symptoms of scabies but the new condition is actually more serious than scabies. The longer you use freedom 45 the longer you will have the condition.

[Lyle]

Spoke with two Pharmacists, and both tell me that scabies is very curable. They said many people are misdiagnosed. I appreciate the advice on this board, but it seems everyone here has their own opinion of what works and what doesn't. I will monitor the board, but I need to take all this with a grain of salt. I just feel like most of this as far as curing is a stab in the dark. Second treatment of permethrin cream 5%, and so far I feel great. I'll let you all know what happens here for me and my Wife. Were were taking borax and sea salt baths, but both Pharmacists said it is not good for the skin. An occasional bath in it is probably ok, but not nightly. They are recommending regular bath using regular soap. I will be on this board until this is cured! Maybe some of you don't believe there is a cure, but I do believe there is a cure!

[cindilu]

Lyle wrote:

Spoke with two Pharmacists, and both tell me that scabies is very curable. They said many people are misdiagnosed. I appreciate the advice on this board, but it seems everyone here has their own opinion of what works and what doesn't. I will monitor the board, but I need to take all this with a grain of salt. I just feel like most of this as far as curing is a stab in the dark. Second treatment of permethrin cream 5%, and so far I feel great. I'll let you all know what happens here for me and my Wife. Were were taking borax and sea salt baths, but both Pharmacists said it is not good for the skin. An occasional bath in it is probably ok, but not nightly. They are recommending regular bath using regular soap. I will be on this board until this is cured! Maybe some of you don't believe there is a cure, but I do believe there is a cure!

Well then gives yours to them and follow up in three months! How much you wanna bet they are not cured?! It's sort of like asking the used car salesman if this is a good bargain when looking for a car. What on Earth did you expect them to say? Hell, my pharmacist told me I didn't need any thing that I could shower them off! And Fred, if you are the Fred in Denver, you have used more Permethrin than most people on the forum. You have misled more people than Fox News!