bleach bath recommended by dermatologist

bleach bath recommended by dermatologist

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confused with scabies

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#1 Aug 29, 2007
Hi all. After 4 months of trying to figure out WHAT was wrong with me, I was diagnosed last month with scabies and found this forum. Well, to tell the truth, I think my derma is just throwing darts at a dartboard at this point. I used Perma cream - then broke out into itchy bumpy rash worse the next day. I told him, and had a biopsy done of a bump. It came up as felliculitus but my derma said that could be an infection of my skin stemming from scratching the scabies. He gave me ivermectin and told me to bathe in a bleach/water combo?! Have ANY of you had to do this? And if so, did it help?
thank you, I'm at my witts end and would just like some comfort and guidence here.
Mary

Hollywood, FL

#2 Aug 29, 2007
confused with scabies wrote:
Hi all. After 4 months of trying to figure out WHAT was wrong with me, I was diagnosed last month with scabies and found this forum. Well, to tell the truth, I think my derma is just throwing darts at a dartboard at this point. I used Perma cream - then broke out into itchy bumpy rash worse the next day. I told him, and had a biopsy done of a bump. It came up as felliculitus but my derma said that could be an infection of my skin stemming from scratching the scabies. He gave me ivermectin and told me to bathe in a bleach/water combo?! Have ANY of you had to do this? And if so, did it help?
thank you, I'm at my witts end and would just like some comfort and guidence here.
I have bathed in a hot/warm bath with Borax and Epsom Salts mixed in the water. I would think that bleach mixed with water would help kill them, too. What really helped me a lot was changing my beds. I put my regular beds away and now I use a vinyl air mattress. I change all bed clothes daily and wash everything in scalding hot water. I add Borax to the laundry. Another thing that helped me was spraying and then wiping the floor, where I used the computer and where I frequent, and wipe the tables with it, spray and wipe. spray and wipe. Also, changing topicals helps, too. Permethrin, Lindane, Benzyl Benzoate/alcohol, or Benzumel/Benzemul (spelling). Also, you will need to do several doses of ivermectin if you are heavily infested, at about 7 days apart. It helps to put Borax in your carpets and car. Cover all upholstered furniture with vinyl/plastic covers, including beds, pillows. Wash your pillows in hot water, too. Don't wear clothes for more than 8 hours. etc.
2ScratchOrNot2Sc ratch

Sanford, NC

#3 Aug 29, 2007
I did it. It burned....didn't kill the scabies. Borax doesn't burn. I'd bathe in that instead.
bi guy

UK

#4 Aug 29, 2007
Never heard of people using bleach on there skin ever so i wouldnt try it
hmmm

Mountain View, CA

#5 Aug 29, 2007
Mary wrote:
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I have bathed in a hot/warm bath with Borax and Epsom Salts mixed in the water. I would think that bleach mixed with water would help kill them, too. What really helped me a lot was changing my beds. I put my regular beds away and now I use a vinyl air mattress. I change all bed clothes daily and wash everything in scalding hot water. I add Borax to the laundry. Another thing that helped me was spraying and then wiping the floor, where I used the computer and where I frequent, and wipe the tables with it, spray and wipe. spray and wipe. Also, changing topicals helps, too. Permethrin, Lindane, Benzyl Benzoate/alcohol, or Benzumel/Benzemul (spelling). Also, you will need to do several doses of ivermectin if you are heavily infested, at about 7 days apart. It helps to put Borax in your carpets and car. Cover all upholstered furniture with vinyl/plastic covers, including beds, pillows. Wash your pillows in hot water, too. Don't wear clothes for more than 8 hours. etc.
my husband went to buy ivermectin and the feed store only had paste....suggestions??
ANON

Montréal, Canada

#6 Aug 30, 2007
I'm pretty sure bleach could work. Because when you have lice in your hair, all you got to do to kill them off is dye your hair and it usually works, and since scabies is lice, well body lice, then it's the same principle?
Sam

United States

#7 Sep 1, 2007
Scabies and body lice are two very different creatures. body lice live on your clothes and lay eggs on your clothes, hang around the hair follicules and bite you. Scabies burrows under your skin and lay eggs under the skin.

But some literature says swimming in a chlorinated pool can help or get rid of scabies, so a bit of bleach or liquid chlorine in bath water might help. Never heard of a derm recommending that though. Most derms told me to stay away from water as much as possible and not even use soap.
Alhatesitchin

Bellingham, WA

#8 Sep 1, 2007
Remember Bleach and clorine can irritate the skin. If your skin can't handle some meds and what not.. I would not even try it..
hmmm

Windsor, CA

#9 Sep 1, 2007
Alhatesitchin wrote:
Remember Bleach and clorine can irritate the skin. If your skin can't handle some meds and what not.. I would not even try it..
my mom has a saline pool (saltwater) and we always feel great after swimming in it...i stay in it for hours and feel very good skin wise...also if you can get to a sulphur springs pool or cave...that would benefit your skin too....
abc7

Sherman Oaks, CA

#12 Apr 13, 2008
does anyone know if you can buy Permethrin 5% with out preinscription?
maybe scabies

El Paso, TX

#13 Apr 13, 2008
abc7 wrote:
does anyone know if you can buy Permethrin 5% with out preinscription?
Try Canadadrugs.com
Unfortunately takes about 2 weeks since it comes from the UK and not cheap, but reliable. Good luck.
Lucybelle

Panama City Beach, FL

#14 Apr 18, 2008
abc7 wrote:
does anyone know if you can buy Permethrin 5% with out preinscription?
call a pharmacist like at Walgreens and ask them...
Michelle

Portland, OR

#15 Sep 7, 2008
I've done the bleach bath twice now. I saw immediate results. I've been fighting scabies for a year now and they started to crust on my wrists. I've tried everything. Lindane, Permethrin, Ivermectin, Mitactin, Tea Tree oil, Sulfur, Neem and they all work but none of them kill the eggs so they come back again and again.
Hopefully the Bleach baths kill the eggs because the doctors won't help me anymore and I've run out of options. Benzyl Benzoate should be coming in the mail soon too. Looks like a someone who worked at a nursing home claims that's how they deal with scabies outbreaks, bleach baths. I'm on day two. So, I'll post back in a few days about how it's going.

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Welty

AOL

#16 Sep 7, 2008
Hi Michelle, How much bleach to a full bath? Do you have them on your scalp? Can you dip your hair in this? I don't have colored hair, and might look better as a blonde, LOL. So, does your tub smell about like a pool? I've read that Lindane is clorine based, though much, much stronger. A weak bleach seems like it would kill off all the surface mites, and if you kept it up for eight days, might get most of those, but it seems like you'd need something else to get a whole batch sometime, as any that are in the process of hatching, and it's 90 mites a day if you have l5 mites producing 2-3 eggs a day. I think this might do the trick if you used something else on the week ends. I bet it would eventually kill them all if you did it for about three weeks. If it's like a pool strength, I think I'd like it!

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch, New Zealand

#17 Sep 8, 2008
Hi Confused, you're not the only one - confused that is ! The problem must surely be to get the mixture strong enough to kill the mites, without hurting your skin, or passing out with the fumes !
Still, I think it's worth a try, if only to kill surface crawlers.
What percentage chlorine to water did you derm. tell you ?
MIMI

Winter Park, FL

#18 Sep 8, 2008
Has anyone tried any of the online product which claim to work on the funiture and carpet, in the car and laundry. They offer body washes, face creams, clothing sprays, etc...

The products are somewhat costly and I'd like to know if anyone has had any success using them.

Better yet I'd like to know if there are other home remedies like Raid roach spray on carpets or something. A $3.00 can of Raid sure is cheaper than $40.00 +$ for the internet offers.
feduptothemax

Cranford, NJ

#19 Sep 8, 2008
Hello Everyone, I'm back, I took the 3 doses of ivermectin, plus an additional because the drug store messed up and gave me an extra 2 doses.

I felt good for about a week, then bam! I know I got reinfested from something I wore, shoes for sure, I was hoping I would come back and hear something new about clothing especially since winter is fast approaching and I'm stone cold broke, dreading coats and hats....The bleach sounds hopeful but I have the same question as Welty, how much bleach to a full bath? I'm nervous about that one, thinking of trying the spregal when I can get the money to order it, but even still, it's the whole reinfestation problem, still living out of bags and using borax on all laundry, I just wish they would make something realiable and safe to get it out of clothes faster and easier something that can be used on all fabrics, if anyone hears of anything at all please post it. Is benzyl benzoate safe for the scalp?
Hope this helps

Mayflower, AR

#20 Sep 9, 2008
I just went to the Derma yesterday about an skin infection that I got after taking some meds. He gave me a piece of paper and it stated to put a 1/4 cup of bleach in the bath water. I have tried many years ago for poison ivy. I tried it last night and will probably do it every night until it goes away.
reatha

Austin, MN

#21 Sep 9, 2008
feduptothemax wrote:
Hello Everyone, I'm back, I took the 3 doses of ivermectin, plus an additional because the drug store messed up and gave me an extra 2 doses.
I felt good for about a week, then bam! I know I got reinfested from something I wore, shoes for sure, I was hoping I would come back and hear something new about clothing especially since winter is fast approaching and I'm stone cold broke, dreading coats and hats....The bleach sounds hopeful but I have the same question as Welty, how much bleach to a full bath? I'm nervous about that one, thinking of trying the spregal when I can get the money to order it, but even still, it's the whole reinfestation problem, still living out of bags and using borax on all laundry, I just wish they would make something realiable and safe to get it out of clothes faster and easier something that can be used on all fabrics, if anyone hears of anything at all please post it. Is benzyl benzoate safe for the scalp?
Feduptothemax.......I am too! I sure feel like crying right now. Guess I reached a point of sooooo much cleaning......so much wash between five of us. I'm the one that it started with and now everyone is struggling with those little buggers. The thing that topped it all off was seeing grandpa,with alzheimers full of the bites when my husband lifted his shirt tonight. We tried perm. they came back right away, I probably didn't clean hard enough. Now doc perscribed Ivermectin, I think just a one time pill for each of us. Do you have any idea how long before the bugs start dying so I know when I can go back to work. Do you know if it is suppose to kill the eggs also since she just is giving a one time pill or pills. Hope you are doing better. thanks
Welty

AOL

#22 Sep 9, 2008
Reatha, Be nice to the Doctor, but firm. You have a Grandpa with Alzheimers and you work with children, and that it is going to be hard to treat Grandpa with topicals. Call the office, and tell them you need refills on perm and several weeks for the Ivermectin. Did you wash your sheets on hot after the Perm? Some Docs, like mine, told me to wash my sheets before. Many Docs are afraid of Ivermectin because its off label for scabies. But the company that makes it isn't making any money off this fifty year old drug, so they won't every test it for this. It's used for mange in animals. That's how we know it works, and some Docs are braver. Plead with the Doctor. Or ask for Eurax and use that as prescribed (unfortunately a three day treatment). This is no fun, but if you get everybody treated at the beginning, and wash clothes and bedding on hot WITH A CUP of Borax in each load, then I think you will beat them. A shower curtain liner over Grandpa's favorite chair can be sponged off with $4 gel alchohol from Target. A huge, huge bottle. Maybe think about this for your couch and over your bedspead so you only have to wash the sheets. I know it's a drag. But I think you will beat this with the golden window you have now. I lost three valuable months thinking I had bird mites. You have an advantage, but if that Doc won't give you any more meds, go to a low income clinic, have hubby go separately, and tell them about Grandpa. Get all the meds you can. Hair/scalps seem to "waste" a lot of perm, but this is essential if you have them in your hair, and Grandpa should have a scalp treatment, because bathers get more scalp involvement, and really the CDC now recommends this step for a complete cure.

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