Permethrin Failed - Now what? Here's a cure... maybe

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divina27

Maspeth, NY

#1 Nov 8, 2007
I did cure scabies a few months ago. But it wasn't because of the Perm. My doctor couldn't grasp his head around the idea that two treatments in two weeks would not result in a cure and he was kind of a jerk about the whole thing.

Perm left me with hyper sensitive skin, and pimples all over my body. I basically had a bad reaction to it.

WHAT TO DO NEXT?

Will if you are like me, all the environmental measures discussed on this board are as doable, as winning the Mega Millions. I get home from work at 7pm, have to feed, bathe the kid and get her to sleep. If I'm lucky she's in bed at 9pm. So I can't exactly run my laundry to a coin-operated laundromat down the block that often. Furthermore all the cleaning of the house is also not achievable.

So I resigned myself to believe that fighting scabies can be ***A WAR OF ATTRITION***.

Don't expect to cure it over night, especially in circumstances like mine.

Here is my theory, and I hope people can report on how well it works.

ECONOMICAL, NON-TOXIC SCABIES CURE.

MSM Cream (a type of sulfur that doesn't stink)
MATERIALS

- A large jug of cheap lotion, or whatever you like.
- 750 mg of MSM gel capsules
- Containers to store the cream that you make
- Containers to cook.

MAKING THE MSM CREAM

- Use a 4 oz container (Gladware) and fill it with 10 to 15 capsules with a little bit of water, and a little bit of lotion.(1/4 full).

- Microwave it in 20 second intervals until the lotion has liquefied.

- Stir the capsules until they dissolve. You may have to heat the lotion a little more.

- Add the remaining lotion and continue to liquify it.

- Pour into container you intend to use to dispense your cream. Let cool for a few hours.

APPLICATION

Apply cream all over your body, 2x a day.

Don't expect a cure overnight. This is a war of attrition. It could take a few weeks, but you will notice your skin itching less and less, and will begin to feel much less movement at night within a few days.

* I added some pure shea butter to the lotion because I found the lotion too thin.(Because I bought some really cheapo lotion.) When shea butter is cold, it is almost solid, but melts very easily. So it really added a lot of body to the lotion.

** I added a few drops of Tea Tree Oil and Lavender because they do help quell the itch, and also because the lavender smells nice.

*** After a few days of using this cream, my hands looked 10 years younger, and my skin looked pretty radiant.

The great thing about this cream is that it doesn't smell bad like regular sulfur, it's nice on the skin, and it it not toxic. So you can use this over and over without fear of long-term health effects.
divina27

Maspeth, NY

#2 Nov 8, 2007
If anyone tries this cure, please report back your findings! Because if this works for other people, then it would be a good thing.
zooks

Orlando, FL

#3 Nov 8, 2007
Thanks divina, I am so glad for you, and you are so lucky that you despite not having very much time to spend on environmental cleaning you were still able to rid yourself and kids of it!!!
Maybe it was your constant coverage, we are doing constant coverage too - the kids have sulfur cream on at night, I will take another look at your mix, and try it
thanks
divina27

Brooklyn, NY

#4 Nov 9, 2007
other things to try.

Shower twice a day.
Bag clothes in 3 day rotations.

For coats, try putting them on the radiator. It's better than nothing.

Bras and small items. Bag and put in the freezer.
crazy mite lady

Grants Pass, OR

#5 Nov 10, 2007
divina27 wrote:
If anyone tries this cure, please report back your findings! Because if this works for other people, then it would be a good thing.
i actually used the sulfa/sal soap www.sulfurcream.com and showered with that and my hair also, then got out dryed off some and put another coat on then got some msn powder WWW.ARTHRITIS-SUPPLEMENTS.COM and put that in my soapy hand and would lather that on myself. i also put some of the powder in my leave in conditioner. i am doing so much better. only my skin still itches. i am gonna use it for while as its safe and i want to be the c word soooo badly. still am cleaning and useing borax in the wash and on the carpet and sofa, and spraying dawn/w water on all the surfaces in the truck and on the plastic sheet on the beds the sulfa soap company also has a a sulfur cream (not sure if it smells tho. there soap doesnt have any odor) i hope all is well and glad that you found something that works for yourself
divina27

Maspeth, NY

#6 Nov 10, 2007
Try over cooking some oatmeal and mushing it around a lot. Then strain it and keep the liquid part of it. Put that in your lotion.
Also try Tea Tree Oil and Lavender. It's pretty good for itching. It's not going to last many hours, but it is good for instant relief.
Remember, your skin is not only experiencing a histamine reaction, but it is likely dry from the sulfur soap.
Itching does continue for a little while after you are cured. I guess the most important thing to make note of... are you getting more bumps? Is the itching subsiding to smaller and smaller parts of your body. Less intense. If yes, then you are either experiencing post-scabies, or, at least on your way to being cured.
Toni

La Crosse, WI

#7 Nov 15, 2007
Just wanted to mention that heating plastic in the microwave is not healthy, it releases synthetic hormone-xenoestrogen. Try heating on stove in glass pan. Also, wash everything, vacuume everything every couple 2-3 days. It's alot but it helps. Are youtreating the pets too?
You can get homeopathic sulfur tabs to work from the inside out. It works for many different symptoms.
Miserable in SA

AOL

#8 Nov 15, 2007
crazy mite lady wrote:
<quoted text>i actually used the sulfa/sal soap www.sulfurcream.com and showered with that and my hair also, then got out dryed off some and put another coat on then got some msn powder WWW.ARTHRITIS-SUPPLEMENTS.COM and put that in my soapy hand and would lather that on myself. i also put some of the powder in my leave in conditioner. i am doing so much better. only my skin still itches. i am gonna use it for while as its safe and i want to be the c word soooo badly. still am cleaning and useing borax in the wash and on the carpet and sofa, and spraying dawn/w water on all the surfaces in the truck and on the plastic sheet on the beds the sulfa soap company also has a a sulfur cream (not sure if it smells tho. there soap doesnt have any odor) i hope all is well and glad that you found something that works for yourself
CML

Allegra works better than Bendryl because you don't get dopey. It a antihistimen.

Try it for the itching. It really works. MIS
crazy mite lady

Grants Pass, OR

#9 Nov 16, 2007
Miserable in SA wrote:
<quoted text>
CML
Allegra works better than Bendryl because you don't get dopey. It a antihistimen.
Try it for the itching. It really works. MIS
thank you all sooo much....
Bill

United States

#10 Nov 23, 2007
divina27 wrote:
I did cure scabies a few months ago. But it wasn't because of the Perm. My doctor couldn't grasp his head around the idea that two treatments in two weeks would not result in a cure and he was kind of a jerk about the .......MAKING THE MSM CREAM
- Use a 4 oz container (Gladware) and fill it with 10 to 15 capsules with a little bit of water, and a little bit of lotion.(1/4 full).
- Microwave it in 20 second intervals until the lotion has liquefied.
- Stir the capsules until they dissolve. You may have to heat the lotion a little more.
- Add the remaining lotion and continue to liquify it.
- Pour into container you intend to use to dispense your cream. Let cool for a few hours.
APPLICATION
Apply cream all over your body, 2x a day.
Don't expect a cure overnight. This is a war of attrition. It could take a few weeks, but you will notice your skin itching less and less, and will begin to feel much less movement at night within a few days.
........
Hi Divina I was better for a while, then I went back to my old girlfriend to get some papers. The bug infested my hands quickly. I had bites that seemed infected within 8 hrs. These bugs felt like splinters in my hands, 10 per hand all over my arms & on my collar bones and waist.
I used sulfur crème 10 % & 90 % hand crème. It stopped them. But on my hands the itch & pain was so bad from the pressurized bite cuts that seemed infected 8 hrs later , I used Betadine on them. Betadine stopped the pain in 10 mins & the itching in 30 minutes. Betadine also works on the eyelids but I can't get in the eyes it has iodine in it, Iodine cases blindness, so I close my eyes ,apply it to my eyebrows, let sit 5 mins & rinse they stopped itching and died. But 3 days later they came back. so I went with MSM LOTION . Now my eyes are fine.
Divina I never went the duration with the MSM only 1 - 3 days straight . Boy does MSM work when you use it for 6 days. I have been mixing it 1 teaspn to 7 teaspns of hand crème.
They are gone. I don't even get bit when I go to places I know they infest.
PRAISE GOD I have my life back. I have been using it all over for 6 days and it got rid of them all, if I feel an itch I coat it quick with more
I had a bad spot on my collar bone area. I showered well, then make a mix of (3) 1000mg MSM capsules & 4 oz of water for my head and dump it on and in my ears, then coat with MSM lotion neck down to feet, & then put Lamisil athletes foot crème on the collar bone area to be sure. They are gone !
Who would believe this non toxic, no smell, no burn chemical could help this much. I am going to go rent a normal house now. Where I live now I have soaked it in Dawn dish soap every 3 - 5 days. The soap stops all movement in the house. I coat it top to bottom ,ceiling, walls floors ,air vents etc. I use a pump sprayer 1 cup Dawn & 4 cups water. I have had the meanest , nastiest bugs that I have ever seen. They pierce me like a bee sting, it makes me jump up & slap the area they bite.
I also had a slow multiplying rash that itches beyond belief in the night.
ps: I also bought MSM LOTION & WHOLE FOOD12.99 for 8 oz Made by NOW : unscented MSM Liposome Lotion 15 % Lignisul ® MSM (DISTRIB: by NOW FOOD, BLOOMINGDALE, IL 60108 k www.nowfoods.com
God bless you , Bill
ps I tried permiterin 12 years ago in another bout it is a nasty chemical that made me feel poisoned, MSM is like nothing, but it stops the bug.. PRaise God, He is so good
Bill

United States

#11 Nov 24, 2007
divina27 wrote: I did cure scabies a few months ago. But it wasn't because of the Perm. My doctor couldn't grasp his head around the idea that two treatments in two weeks would not result in a cure and he was kind of a jerk about the whole thing.
Perm left me with hyper sensitive skin, and pimples all over my body. I basically had a bad reaction to it.
WHAT TO DO NEXT?
Will if you are like me, all the environmental measures discussed on this board are as doable, as winning the Mega Millions. I get home from work at 7pm, have to feed, bathe the kid and get her to sleep. If I'm lucky she's in bed at 9pm. So I can't exactly run my laundry to a coin-operated laundromat down the block that often. Furthermore all the cleaning of the house is also not achievable.
So I resigned myself to believe that fighting scabies can be ***A WAR OF ATTRITION***.
Don't expect to cure it over night, especially in circumstances like mine.
Here is my theory, and I hope people can report on how well it works.
ECONOMICAL, NON-TOXIC SCABIES CURE.
MSM Cream (a type of sulfur that doesn't stink)
MATERIALS
- A large jug of cheap lotion, or whatever you like.
- 750 mg of MSM gel capsules
- Containers to store the cream that you make
- Containers to cook.
MAKING THE MSM CREAM
- Use a 4 oz container (Gladware) and fill it with 10 to 15 capsules with a little bit of water, and a little bit of lotion.(1/4 full).
- Microwave it in 20 second intervals until the lotion has liquefied.
- Stir the capsules until they dissolve. You may have to heat the lotion a little more…….
Hi I am a visiter of of the yahoo find1cure
And birdmitesorg@yahoogroups.com
Many are using the msm, I had them on my eyes bad. The regular sulfur worked wonders but my eye lids were starting to get so dry, and hurt. I tried the MSM for 6 daysand they are gone ….Yes Praise God, they sell msm lotion at health food stores or I make my own. 1 part msm 7 parts lotion ( any kind of lotion) this eqals aprox. 15 percent msm to lotion. That is the mix on the label of store bought msm lotion 15% MSM it says
Here are some of their posts ( I hate to copy and paste but this is war)
Lou
[birdmitesorg] Re: scent
Thu Nov 15, 2007
Inbox
... them. I chopped off what was left of my trademark gorgeous silver
hair..........it's curly so it looks OK slathered up with the MSM
goop. THE MSM GOOP IS REALLY HELPING ME WITH THE I:
2.
castiar
[birdmitesorg] Re: Accepting that medical professionals cannot help
here
Fri Nov 16, 2007
Inbox
... spray in your room and car and spray it on yourself in the shower
and then again after you dry off. Go after work and get the MSM powder
and just mix it with hand cream 1 table spoon of msm to 12 of hand
cream and if it is too grity microwave it for 15 seconds ...
3. Many Mites-
Glad to hear the great report.
You know I've spent so much money online hoping to get quick relief
and everything we need is in the grocery and drug stores.
Through all this my faith has really grown and God has separated me
from people who really weren't my true friends and I'm not looking
back.
Hang in there.
Ray
--- In birdmitesorg@ yahoogroups. com, "manymites" <jsrd@...> wrote:
>
> Million thanks to whoever found the tip for the MSM recipe and to
Lou
> and the others for spreading the recipe! Last night I mixed about
10
> pills of MSM with skin lotion and that really made a HUGE
difference. I
> put it on from head to toe including on my wife and kids and
everyone
> slept a whole night! What a great sleep!
>
> Please note that I had tried mixing the MSM with Sulfur and oil the
day
> before but that felt burning on my skin so it wasn't that great.
Maybe
> my skin is too irritated after so much bleach.
Bill

United States

#12 Nov 24, 2007
QUOTE who="divina27"I did cure scabies a few months ago. But it wasn't because of the Perm. My doctor couldn't grasp his head around the idea that two treatments in two weeks would not result in a cure and he was kind of a jerk about the whole thing.
Perm left me with hyper sensitive skin, and pimples all over my body. I basically had a bad reaction to it.
WHAT TO DO NEXT?
Will if you are like me, all the environmental measures discussed on this board are as doable, as winning the Mega Millions. I get home from work at 7pm, have to feed, bathe the kid and get her to sleep. If I'm lucky she's in bed at 9pm. So I can't exactly run my laundry to a coin-operated laundromat down the block that often. Furthermore all the cleaning of the house is also not achievable.
So I resigned myself to believe that fighting scabies can be ***A WAR OF ATTRITION***.
Don't expect to cure it over night, especially in circumstances like mine.
Here is my theory, and I hope people can report on how well it works.
ECONOMICAL, NON-TOXIC SCABIES CURE.
MSM Cream (a type of sulfur that doesn't stink)
MATERIALS
- A large jug of cheap lotion, or whatever you like.
- 750 mg of MSM gel capsules
- Containers to store the cream that you make
- Containers to cook.
MAKING THE MSM CREAM
- Use a 4 oz container (Gladware) and fill it with 10 to 15 capsules with a little bit of water, and a little bit of lotion.(1/4 full).
- Microwave it in 20 second intervals until the lotion has liquefied.
- Stir the capsules until they dissolve. You may have to heat the lotion a little more…….

Hi I am a visiter of of the yahoo find1cure
And birdmitesorg@yahoogroups.com

Many are using the msm, I had them on my eyes bad. The regular sulfur worked wonders but my eye lids were starting to get so dry, and hurt. I tried the MSM for 6 daysand they are gone ….Yes Praise God, they sell msm lotion at health food stores or I make my own. 1 part msm 7 parts lotion ( any kind of lotion) this eqals aprox. 15 percent msm to lotion. That is the mix on the label of store bought msm lotion 15% MSM it says

Here are some of their posts ( I hate to copy and paste but this is war)

Lou
birdmitesorg Re: scent
Thu Nov 15, 2007
Inbox

... them. I chopped off what was left of my trademark gorgeous silver
hair..........it's curly so it looks OK slathered up with the MSM
goop. THE MSM GOOP IS REALLY HELPING ME WITH THE I:

2.
castiar
birdmitesorg Re: Accepting that medical professionals cannot help
here
Fri Nov 16, 2007
Inbox

... spray in your room and car and spray it on yourself in the shower
and then again after you dry off. Go after work and get the MSM powder
and just mix it with hand cream 1 table spoon of msm to 12 of hand
cream and if it is too grity microwave it for 15 seconds ...

3. Many Mites-

Glad to hear the great report.

You know I've spent so much money online hoping to get quick relief
and everything we need is in the grocery and drug stores.

Through all this my faith has really grown and God has separated me
from people who really weren't my true friends and I'm not looking
back.

Hang in there.

Ray

--- In birdmitesorg@ yahoogroups. com, "manymites" <jsrd@...> wrote:
>
> Million thanks to whoever found the tip for the MSM recipe and to
Lou
> and the others for spreading the recipe! Last night I mixed about
10
> pills of MSM with skin lotion and that really made a HUGE
difference. I
> put it on from head to toe including on my wife and kids and
everyone
> slept a whole night! What a great sleep!
>
> Please note that I had tried mixing the MSM with Sulfur and oil the
day
> before but that felt burning on my skin so it wasn't that great.
Maybe
> my skin is too irritated after so much bleach.

God is good
adanaturkey8385

Liberty Lake, WA

#13 Nov 24, 2007
In some countries they use urine or purple onion peals. I'd never use urine but I have tried purple onion peals boiled in water and throw the
onion water in my bath water and it works great for Scabies, just couldn't keep the mite off me, that's all! You can't use the onion itself, just the peals. Anyone tried it???

Char
divina27 wrote:
Try over cooking some oatmeal and mushing it around a lot. Then strain it and keep the liquid part of it. Put that in your lotion.
Also try Tea Tree Oil and Lavender. It's pretty good for itching. It's not going to last many hours, but it is good for instant relief.
Remember, your skin is not only experiencing a histamine reaction, but it is likely dry from the sulfur soap.
Itching does continue for a little while after you are cured. I guess the most important thing to make note of... are you getting more bumps? Is the itching subsiding to smaller and smaller parts of your body. Less intense. If yes, then you are either experiencing post-scabies, or, at least on your way to being cured.
divina27

Maspeth, NY

#14 Nov 30, 2007
Any one else try this? It's been a few weeks since the original post.

This remedy definitely helps reduce the mite numbers. But it is slow working.

I think regular sulfur is much more effective... but it stinks something fierce. I don't even understand why someone would say it has the faint smell of lemon... Maybe when it's in the bottle, but not when it is in aqueous form.

The MSM cream was not meant to be a substitute for other measures, such as cleaning. It was meant to be something you can put on your body, 24/7, that does not stink, and that offers some relief to itching and reduces (possible kills) the mite population.

I look forward to hearing people's success sotries.
fed up to the max

Absecon, NJ

#15 Nov 30, 2007
I'm back! Gonna try it the MSM cream, where can I get some? My circumstances are such that I cannot afford to do spend all kinds of money, but I did order the stromectol about 2 weeks ago still haven't received my order, question anyone who has ordered with magic pharmacy, how long does it take to receive the medication, in addition would it be safe to use the stromectol and the MSM together, I tried other sulfer products the smell made me so sick, I couldn't keep it on me, if this works for me I would be so greatful, I have done everything and more for years and I still keep having it, I'm so tired now, all the cleaning and boiling dry cleaning, it's been crazy, I too look forward to hearing success stories, it means there's hope.

Once again anyone who has order from magic pharmacy I would be very appreciative if I could find out some info on how long they take to deliver, it's been 14 days, I have written numerous times, I have yet to receive any type of response from these people yet my card has been credited since day one of the order, any info would be greatly appreciated and where I can order the msm cream at an affordable rate.

Thank you all in advance.
Bill

United States

#16 Nov 30, 2007
HI fed
This stuff works great it is sold in pill form at every

pharmacy anmd cheapest at health food stores, it is also

sold premixed at 15% msm to lotion. MSM lotion is 12.99

for 8 oz.
I put the creme on all over 2 times a day. And apply on any bites any time I get bit. For my head I make a mix of 6 500mg tablets and 4 oz of water to

dump on my head right after shampooing. I like not putting

greasy lotion on my head. All the bumps went away.
My eyelids were burned up from the sulfur, I had to find

something different. I keep getting free of the bugs then I go back to my storage garage and pick up the bug again. If I

stay away from the areas that I know they are at, I remain

bug free.
I still coat my entire interior of my house with Dawn

dish soap (1 cup and 4 cups of water) to snuff any bugs .

I let it sit for at least 2 hrs then wet vac it up. All

bite marks and rashes have cleared up in 10 days of msm. I

had some stubborn clusters on my collar bone, I put

betadine (providone iodine 10% on it 4-5 times in 10 days,

I always rinse off the betadine in 5 minutes. 2 time I

used atheletes foot medicine on the cluster of bumps also.

It helps also.
Chelz used MSM she is cured

Here is an old post about her , from link:
http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/T4F...

R/p275

another of hers:
excerpt ..........October 06

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Oh and NYorker, I even tried benzel benzoate. I tried it

all, except for the ivermectin. I just couldn't bring

myself to do that. seriously, I tried everything I found

on the web to cure it, even alfalfa tabs in my bath, that

was terrible! But like you are now I was desperate for a

cure.
Chelz
..........

ps:I find these old posts by going to google and entering

" topix scabies chelz msm " google brings up the link.

Please let me know of any thing that destroys this bug or

makes it leave me alone. My friends are never bit. Always

just me ..? what is this thing ?
THough my enemies encompass me round about He prepares a

banquet in the presence of my enemies, He annoints my head

with oil. My cup runneth over

God bless you , Bill
Bill

United States

#17 Dec 1, 2007
Hi
online MSM lotion is 12.99 at it is excellent
www.nowfoods.com

search in their box for msm liposome lotion

Ps ALhatesitcin how are you doing? any bites. The MSM was realing soothing for my burned skin after sulfur, then I got reinfected going to the my old storage garage. Are you clear of the bugs still ?

Nite ,BIll
ReyRay

Lanham, MD

#18 Dec 1, 2007
Bill- You don't go to the storage garage that often do you?

How long do you think your mites live off of a host?

Just curious because I know the ones we had lived off of us for weeks at a time NOT days.

Hope you get over these soon.
crazy mite lady

Grants Pass, OR

#19 Dec 1, 2007
fed up to the max wrote:
I'm back! Gonna try it the MSM cream, where can I get some? My circumstances are such that I cannot afford to do spend all kinds of money, but I did order the stromectol about 2 weeks ago still haven't received my order, question anyone who has ordered with magic pharmacy, how long does it take to receive the medication, in addition would it be safe to use the stromectol and the MSM together, I tried other sulfer products the smell made me so sick, I couldn't keep it on me, if this works for me I would be so greatful, I have done everything and more for years and I still keep having it, I'm so tired now, all the cleaning and boiling dry cleaning, it's been crazy, I too look forward to hearing success stories, it means there's hope.
Once again anyone who has order from magic pharmacy I would be very appreciative if I could find out some info on how long they take to deliver, it's been 14 days, I have written numerous times, I have yet to receive any type of response from these people yet my card has been credited since day one of the order, any info would be greatly appreciated and where I can order the msm cream at an affordable rate.
Thank you all in advance.
www.arthritis-msn-supplements. com has msn powder, and www.sulfurcream.com has cream and this sulfur/sal soap that i use. helps alot. i also put some of the msn powder in my shampoo and my leave in conditoner. also i went to wal-mart and in the garden center they have a big bag of epsom salt which has sulfur in it and used it in the bath, would soak and then shower in the soap afterwards. you can also just take handfuls of the salts and scrub and its good to exfoliate, kinda burns if you have open sores but is good also. the bigger bag in garden is alot cheaper that the one in pharmacy area. i also use the dawn like bill suggested everyplace, even when i change the sheets on the plastic on the bedding.in the truck also. ihave been doing well but still am using the sul/sal soap. dont want to quit til i am absolutely sure.....good luck
fed up to the max

Absecon, NJ

#20 Dec 1, 2007
So let me get this straight, If I buy the cream or the lotion then there is no need to do the mixture myself? I mean is it better to do my own mix or to just buy the lotion or cream or does it make a difference? I hope someone sees this soon, I would like to either go out today and purchase the pills and all ingredients or order something right now.

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