Help! I want to hug my children and spouse
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#1 Dec 27, 2008
After going to the doc and being told that I don't have these buggers, I'm still sure that I do. I do not have them in the webbing of my fingers and there are no tell-tale tracks from bump to bump. The doctor would not prescribe the Ivermectin because she did not think it could be scabies. My bumps look and feel like chigger bites. Mine are in the scalp and face, including the eyes and ears. My scalp is screaming. No nits and no lice. I figured out that they were around my eyes when I kept feeling that fuzz feeling on my lashes. No fuzz on eye and it felt as if something was walking from lash to lash. Now eyes are red around the edges. Since I did not pick them up by intimate contact, I have been lucky not to have them in the more intimate areas. You all talk about cures; but, I see the same people posting for years. Where are you getting these from over and over again? I am almost sure that mine came from a hug with an old friend who is a daycare worker. I am so worried that my family will get them that I am keeping everyone at a distance.
My family does not seem to be affected. How can this be? Do I need to treat them when they don't seem to have anything? How do I deal with going to work knowing that I may give them to someone else? I have two teen daughters. If they get this, I would just be beside myself. I'm not sure how to treat my eyes.
Tomorrow, I plan to pull all of linen out of my bedroom, vacuum the mattress, spray it with spray and replace linen with that which has been washed and dried in hot water. All out bedding will be bagged for a week. I'll douse myself with the pyrethrin 5% and sleep in my tub. I may suggest that my husband sleep somewhere other than the bed for a week. We don't have carpet other than in bedrooms. I will bag bedding in other rooms and will wash all that can be washed in hot water.
I've told my kids that I want them to tell me right away if hey are itchy and my husband will do the same. Please tell me that I can get rid of these things without infecting my family.
#2 Dec 27, 2008
Yea, I know what you're going through. I have a husband and three children that I've been avoiding for 3 months now. It's not nice. I feel touch deprived. Did you consider that you might have allergies (do you have cats?). Itching around the eyes sounds like allergies. I also went to the doc. He did scrapings and found nothing, but I continue to itch and break out in a few bumps mostly on my torso. My entire family and I did permethrin twice and I even took ivermectin, but I still have symptoms. I don't know what to do next. My suggestion to you is possibly check with an allergist. Good Luck!
#3 Dec 27, 2008
I've had it 3 years now, well, almost 3 years, and i'm not getting it over and over again. i can't get rid of them. older folks have a harder time with them, and i don't have regular human scabies, i have dog mites (but both are sarcoptic mites).
you asked about treating the eyes. there is a search box in this forum, so i did a search on eyes, and came up with 3 different threads.
#4 Dec 27, 2008
#5 Dec 27, 2008
not everyone gets them in the webs of their fingers. i don't. your bedding. you should get a plastic cover or get some plastic painters sheeting from home depot and tape that stuff to your mattress really good, so the mites can't burrow into your mattress. but, you might not need to, if you haven't had this for too long and if you are the only one infested. i had to buy an air mattress. i haven't used a regular bed in 2 years. Yeah!! What fun, huh? I don't use a regular pillow anymore. I just use a small towel rolled up and get a clean one every night. no sheets. just sleep on that wonderful air mattress. lol... if you cannot get rid of them quickly with permethrin, you will need ivermectin, too. please do some searches on this forum, or start reading that really long thread called Scabies is Highly Contagious. It has 6000 posts. Also, sublimed sulfur mixed with lotion has helped many on this forum.
#6 Dec 27, 2008
Wild with worry: My son isn't effected by these mites. He is young and is healthy as a HORSE. i'm jealous.
#7 Dec 28, 2008
Thanks for the links to the helpful threads. There is lots of information here. I vacuumed my mattress last night and put a vinyl cover on it. After perm treatment (which included scalp, face, ears and nose), I slept on the vinyl cover with a couple of clean towels and a sheet. I had some eye/ear antibiotics and put them in my eyes and ears to try to get the ones that are intent on nesting there. The doctor gave me a single tube of perm to work with (no refill) since she was unconvinced that mites were the problem. Finally had a couple of visible bore tracks high on my forehead. Even these are questionable and do not look classic. I'm going to have to go to an online pharmacy today for Ivermectin and more perm. It is difficult to get a doc to write a perscription for a whole healthy family when he/she is not convinced than even one is having a mite problem. I feel one in my lashes right now.
Question of the day: what do I do with solid surfaces (granite countertops, keyboard, phones)? Is there any spray that will help with shoes, car seats and other cloth things that cannot be washed or thrown in the drier?
I appreciate everyone's help. I'm trying to knock this out before the rest of my family becomes miserable. I saw what could be a bite on both my husband and 13-year-old today. I cannot get into Magicpharma.com today. Has anyone had good results with another Canadian or offshore pharmacy? I won't have a prescription for the perm or the ivermectin. Every city needs a doctor who knows how to help people deal with this.
#8 Dec 28, 2008
i have set up a yahoo group called invisibleBitingMites. You can join this group; although there is not any chat going on in my group, there is a wealth of information in the files section.
also, there is a yahoo group called birdmitesorg (without the period). there is a bunch of chat going on there and alot of very knowledgeable people who can help you.
there are all sorts of sprays you can use on your couch and car seat. alot of people are using cedarcide. one guy used windex everywhere in his house, the entire house, for weeks. alot of people put straight borax down in the carpets. one person is using something called roach prufe. you can do a search in the birdmitesorg yahoo group on the roach prufe and read all the discussion about that.
i think welty used deflea spray environmentally.
or your can use rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle. you can put some plastic in your couch and car seat. i removed the carpet in my car and put some black rubber mats down. lemon scented raid works in the car.
you can buy some ivermectin from an online livestock company.
#9 Dec 28, 2008
let's see if this works for ordering links:
Topic Updated Last By Comments
Ordering scabicides and Ivermectin Links Listed (from Apr '07) Dec 6 sarah bristol 62
Ordering Links (from Feb '07)
do a search in the box for "ordering links."
#10 Dec 28, 2008
#12 Dec 28, 2008
Thanks. Both magicpharma.com and abcmedics.com are down. I'm wary of abcmedics as several postings stated that they were skeptical about what they received from them. Magicpharma was up yesterday. I'm hoping it will be up later today or in the morning.
If I don't reach them by tomorrow, I may to to the minuteclinic and try talking that guy into Ivermectin prescription for the whole family. I don't think he will go for it. I'm willing to take the horse paste at this point; but, husband will balk at me giving it to the kids. They are teenagers and won't even eat good food most of the time. Does it come in junk food form?
I just realized that I did not hit the phones with windex or anything else. I'm going back for another hit of the ear antibiotic drops. What a mess. I am still hopeful that I can get this knocked out.
I'm not sure what kind this might be. We have no pets. I do have friends with pets. I don't want to get it again when I get rid of it. I can't put my shoes in the freezer every night. I have a zillion trash bags full of isolated bedding. Jeepers!
#13 Dec 28, 2008
I lucked out and magicpharma.com is back up. I ordered ivermectin and more tubes of perm, plus some antibacterial eye/ear drops. They are still flocking to my eyes and ears to get away from the permethrin. They feel just like fuzz on the eyes. I'm worried about ruining my leather couch and nice wooden furniture by spraying them with alcohol or windex. Do either of these kill the bugs? If so, I'll go bathe in them now. I have a vapor steamer that is plugged in now. I'm going to steam mop some floors this evening. I'll also run the vapor over all hard surfaces.
How do I get all of this laundry folded without touching it? As I'm folding it, won't bugs hop off of me and onto it? I'm doing lots of laundry today; but, I'm worried that the clean clothes will get bugs on them while they hang there. I sure hope that Ivermectin gets here quickly.
I went to your yahoo site and just cried as I read the postings. I just have a few bites and feel crawly. I will pray for everyone dealing with this. I have no black dots on anything, so I'm hopeful that mine are the human kind. I'm thinking that mine came from my daycare working aquaintance; however, I guess they could have come from anywhere. I pray that all of us are able to get rid of them. I hope that the pets do okay also. My kids will never get a dog or cat now.
Thanks to all who respond.
#15 Dec 28, 2008
It's best to have low humidity with these things. they love humid environments, and last longer in humid environments. i'm sure you will be fine. you are working on it. i wouldn't worry too much about putting mites on the clothes you are folding. the real problem is when you can't get them out of the laundry in the first place. Because, if that happens, you will get reinfected. I have taken the injectible ivermectin orally with juice. it works just as well as the human pill form. the horsepaste does not work that well.
#16 Dec 28, 2008
Here's a good thread to read. this guy documented his progress and was cured.
#17 Dec 29, 2008
You are so kind. Thank you. I work to keep the humidity level low anyway because I have allergies to dust mites. I really think that allergy is what alerted me to the problem in the first place. I'm also really sensitive to things crawling on my skin. It just took a while to realize it.
I was off all last week and this week for the holidays. It is a good time to discover this and try to get it knocked out quickly. My husband believes that something is biting me and he is supportive of my effort (to a point). I noticed a couple of bites on him yesterday on his forehead near his scalp. He doesn't believe they are anything. I'm glad that I sent off for the Ivermectin. It may be overkill; but, I don't have any problem overkilling these things.
I slept in my laundered pajamas yesterday and don't think that they carried anything back to me. I had a wave of crawliness yesterday evening; but, don't know if that was real or the perm treatment from the night before. The antihistimine the doc gave me knocked that down immediately.
My next stop today is to get borax and tea tree oil. I have a front-loading high-efficiency machine. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be able to use the borax in there. I will sprinkle it on the carpet and vacuum it up in a couple of days. I'm thinking of sprinkling it on my keyboard and around the computer. I sprayed by car with the RID spray. I'm not sure that will do much sinch the Pyrethrin in it is not very strong. I haven't been sitting on anything upholstered for a while; but, I've vacuumed that stuff over and over. I may sprinkle the couch with some borax and vacuum it out after a day. That Oreck can pick up a bowling ball; surely it can grab these critters.
I sure wish I knew where I got these, so that I can avoid a repeat of this. None of my family members are affected by this. I don't know of a co-worker or friend that has them. I haven't had anything other than casual contact with outsiders. We don't have pets and I'm not around other peoples pets. I just cannot figure it out.
Are yours still with you or have you been able to eradicate them?
#19 Dec 29, 2008
I still have these things. I gave up all my pets and I didn't have any pets for a over a year and i was still not able to get rid of them. now i have a dog and a small kitty, so, at this rate, i'll never be able to do it. my dog has them. every time i pet her, i can feel bites on my hands and arms. I try to wash off after I pet her. you are in texas, and that is one of the states where these things flourish. i am thinking they came up from mexico and/or south america.
#21 Dec 31, 2008
I got in to see the dermatologist yesterday. I wish I had seen her last week rather than the phys. assist. She was able to evaluate my condition and was immediately able to explain what was going on. I have a condition called acne necrotica. These are pimples that occur largely in the scalp. This was being worsened by the crawly feeling was caused by my histamine level, which is going nuts (as am I). I have a lifelong history of allergies and, apparently, the crawly feeling is also another horrible symptom suffered by those going through menopause. My manic reaction to the problem had a lot to do with itching and lack of sleep, in addition to the worry that I might have been passing along something to my children.
I have antihistimines to take, as well as some topicals and an antibiotic for the acne. The dermatologist and I will reassess the situation in a month.
In the meantime, I have a very clean house with bagged bedding out on the patio, which will all be run through the laundry before it is put back on the beds. I was able to hug the kids and my husband last night and we went to a movie. I still am having problems letting myself sit on anything upholstered. My dust mite allergies will benefit from the vinyl bedding covers, as well as the purging of dusty things that nobody needs to have around. My house is always pretty clean; but, it sure wasn't as dust-free as it should have been.
I am especially concerned for those who may not have the time or money to find someone who can help to find out exactly what is going on with them. I was ready to treat my whole family with perm and ivermectin. I am ready to admit that I would have done it had it not been for the more logical explanation given by the dermatologist. The PAs explanation of, "I don't know what is biting you, but it isn't scabies," just didn't cut it for me.
My kids were worried. My husband was supportive to a point. I'm very hopeful that things can settle back down. I do have to admit that I may have to take some calming perscriptions to help me with the mania being caused by menopause. I have always been a very calm and logical person. Itching plus menopause is not a good combination. I have to admit that I will still be wary if the condition does not improve with the treatment she prescribed.
I will continue to pray for all of you. I do hope that the social stigma is removed from the scurge of scabies. I know that my opinion has changed, as I realize that these mites are causing such havoc for folks.
God bless you.
#22 Dec 31, 2008
Wild with worry,
This is the 4th time I've gotten them. Once you get them, they are extremely easy to get again.
Be careful with the docs, they diagnosed me with
Delutional Parasites and told me if I didn't take
anti-psycotic drugs. It's a long story. CPS got involved. Your family doesn't always get them. It would be better for your entire family to get them so that the doctors believe you and you get help. I've found this is the only way! I've tried so many natural cures, they don't work! They help but don't end the problem. You don't need to treat them but without treating them, you'll have to treat yourself many more times.
They can get it by hugging, sharing the bed and what not. You really have to keep EVERYTHING clean in the house. Try to stay out of everyone's room if you don't want them to get it.
I kept cleaning everyone's room, spotless. Take everything you don't want to clean and put them in drawers, storage because everything must be washed, including furniture. Storage is the best
but expensive place for everything.
#23 Dec 31, 2008
Just a quick note. gotta go. but that is so great that you were diagnosed with something else. I hope everything works out for you. good luck to you. it's good that you are able to hug your family now. good deal!!!
#24 Dec 31, 2008
scabies3 what kind of mites do you have?
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