Scabies cure with Albendazole (Albenza)?

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We recently found two online articles that claim the oral drug "Albendazole" at 400 mg x 2 daily for 30-days cures Crusted Scabies.

Question: Has anyone used this oral drug for regular Scabies?

If you have any experience with this drug please reply. Thank you.
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Hi mitewarrior77,
I have received the albendazole I ordered, 30-4oomg tablets. I haven't used them after reviewing some of the side effects but haven't ruled it out. The two studies I saw used a dosing regimen of 1000mg taken 3x daily with fatty meals for 3 days so a total of 9000 mg. If you have some additional links please post them.

I gave up on the advantix, I couldn't handle it, it gave me a headache and made my skin burn,i was using two pippets a day straight for a week and they were still biting right through it.

I looked at some of the acute lethal toxicity studies for Ivermectin and today did a total of 120mg, 20mg orally and 100mg as a topical, it comes to right about 1500mc/kg of body weight. I used the horse paste called eqvalan made by merial. After about two hours I was overcome by sleep and had to lay down, two hours later I woke up feeling pretty good but like i was on something. What I used was only about 1/5 of the dose where the heavy side effects kick in.I also saw in the merck stromectol pdf that they had dosed humans up to 2000mc/kg.
I read some merial study comparisons for topical administration of ivermectin and orally and the topical had up to a 98% cure rate versus the oral
which had an up to 80% cure rate in cattle for sarcoptic scabei, they used 500mc/kg both times.

The horse paste is 79% propylene glycol and the 4/5 of a tube I used didn't cover well so i spread it around on my body , feet, hands, head then torso. The biting has completely ceased inside my feet. I ordered propylene glycol 100% and depending how this works I will be using a whole tube of horse paste at 1.87% iver( the strongest animal grade) mixed with two parts propylene glycol) that will easily cover my body and deliver the 120mg topically. Bearing in mind this stays in your skin a while especially if you don't bathe , this could be my ticket home.
Please post anything you find on albendazole.
Thanks and have a nice Christmas.
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Dec 23, 2011
 
it was topically applied here;

http://archderm.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abst...
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Dec 23, 2011
 
i found this on how to make a 10% albendazole ointment and it cured two patients of cutaneous larva migrans wihich is also a skin parasite.

http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/11/1...
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Dec 23, 2011
 
so in post #3 the link says they cured the scabies with topically applied 10% Thiabendazole. And in Post#4 the researchers wrote this;

"Topical application of 10%15% thiabendazole solution or ointment to the affected area is effective, but thiabendazole is no longer marketed by the manufacturer. This prompted us to test a 10% albendazole ointment in 2 children who presented with cutaneous larva migrans."

the link in post #4 says how to make the ointment

So now I'm wondering if A=B and B=C does A=C?
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Dec 23, 2011
 
the albendazole taken orally has some potential side effects but used topically must be much safer...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albendazole
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Dec 23, 2011
 
well now I am inspired, I just powderized 6 -400mg albendazole pills and mixed them with 2 tablespoons of sweet almond oil which should give me a 10% mixture , I'm going to keep taking my daily body weight dose of Ivermectin and apply the albenzendole ointment daily too. Now going for a well needed shower then put on the alby, I will post more here in a few days....
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Some things I started doing;
Wearing latex surgical gloves around the house, keeps my hands from infecting stuff and getting infected too, keeps the meds from wearing off the fingers.

changed the topical to 4 -4OOmg albendazole tabs with 4 tablespoons of sweet almond oil, i went to a cooking shop and bought a mortar and a pesel for $10 and it turns the tabs into fine powder quickly.
I wore this starting last night and for the first time woke up with out any bites at all, that wasn't happening with the advantix.

I read on another scabies forum about johnsons foot soap for the scabies in your feet. You mix it in water and soak your feet in it. It has sodium borate and potasium iodide in it. I soaked for 10 minutes and as it penetrated I felt the mites in my feet try to chew for freedom at about twenty minutes the pin pricks stopped and I didn't feel any more at all. I soaked my hands and feet and then dried them good and applied my topical.We'll see how today goes with that.

For anyone using horse paste which I am, I found the Eqvalan by merial is more potent than the cheaper knock offs like jeffers. I am taking a 200lb dose every 12 hours and will be for 15 days because the mite I have is the canine variety , my dog got from a fox, and it is very tenacious.

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Dec 24, 2011
 
Hi Fred, Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful response.

Just curious, did you get the Albendazole tablets from a online pharmacy or did you get a prescription from your doctor?

I know the oral Albendazole (Albenza) has side effects but I would like to know how regular Scabies react to this oral drug.

Please let us know how the ointment works, if it has a noticeable effect on the mites. Thanks again.
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hi mitewarrior77,
I got the albendenzole from an online pharmacy, yes they are questionable but after dealing with about 4 of the Canadian places (from India) this place had delivered some ivermectin to me that i can vouch for as it really killed a lot of them.

http://www.drugsmonster.com ,

I have about 4o something tabs left and the packaging looks very authentic, it's called "Cantel" by cadila healthcare limited.

http://www.cadilapharma.com/

plus my topical gave me a slight skin rash which wiki says is a possible side effect, the rash has subsided though. I'm thinking they are real.

Right now i'm researching Iodine, because if you can't take care of your feet and hands you'll get reinfected as you know. One thing about feet and hands I read is that they have no sebaceous glands in the palms or soles so Ivermectin really doesn't get to them very well. I found this on Iodine's ability to penetrate the skin, 13% gets all the way through and there is a point where it reaches toxicity levels.
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/updates/UN...
After reading these links Ive come to the conclusion I need to soak my feet in I Ivomec pour on directly after my johnsons foot soap soak as the topical Ivermectin showed the best results.

http://www.lipochemicals.com/files/1916992660...

http://files.dcp2.org/pdf/DCP/DCP37.pdf

I might seem a little OCD but at some point I would like to move on with my life, I know we all would.
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Dec 24, 2011
 
I sent a lengthy email to the Entomological Society of America explaining our plight and attaching many links, including this forum , . Just maybe their will be some interest.
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Dec 25, 2011
 
I had to stop the albendazole topical , the body rash recurred and it really wasn't offering any protection. I'm starting a new thread on ivomec "super" or ivomec "plus" it's ivermectin with clorsulon, what i've read shows a lot of promise.
the thread wil be titled simply, "clorsulon"
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Dec 25, 2011
 
MW77, if you get a chance read the thread "Options to permethrin and Ivermectin "

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Dec 26, 2011
 
FRED wrote:
MW77, if you get a chance read the thread "Options to permethrin and Ivermectin "
Thank you. Also thanks for the online pharmacy link, many people from the Forum are having trouble affording prescriptions so this online Pharmacy is a option.

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Dec 31, 2011
 
trimethoprim is another oral drug prescribed in the treatment of scabies. Whether you are taking oral ivermectin, albenza or trimethoprim the doctors say you must also be rubbing on a topical drug or essential oil and take bleach baths.
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Doctors? All of the posts I've read on here only serve to reinforce my opinion that our doctors primary concern is to reap the rewards of their medical schooling. If someone has a resistant form of Scabies they are dismissed after a few visits as bothersome or delusional. Has anyone got an account of a domestic doctor actually curing a resistant form solely through their prescription?

They generally open a clinician's Handbook of prescription drugs, read a paragraph of antique science and send you on your way with a script an a bill for their "medical expertise".

I think If you want to find the real doctors you'll have to go to stricken areas of the world where they are actually dedicating themselves to helping people, at least as far as this condition is concerned.I called about a half dozen dermatologist's and I would have been all set if I was after hair plugs or liposuction.

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FRED wrote:
Doctors? All of the posts I've read on here only serve to reinforce my opinion that our doctors primary concern is to reap the rewards of their medical schooling. If someone has a resistant form of Scabies they are dismissed after a few visits as bothersome or delusional. Has anyone got an account of a domestic doctor actually curing a resistant form solely through their prescription?

They generally open a clinician's Handbook of prescription drugs, read a paragraph of antique science and send you on your way with a script an a bill for their "medical expertise".

I think If you want to find the real doctors you'll have to go to stricken areas of the world where they are actually dedicating themselves to helping people, at least as far as this condition is concerned.I called about a half dozen dermatologist's and I would have been all set if I was after hair plugs or liposuction.
I agree. I was called "delusional" by a ER doctor. The egos and ignorance of doctors delayed my finally being cured.
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sorry I got carried away, the toxins must be going to my brain.
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mitewarrior77 wrote:
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I agree. I was called "delusional" by a ER doctor. The egos and ignorance of doctors delayed my finally being cured.
So, the lesson learneed here is to stay away from the ER. Or maybe you do present yourself as a bit nutters in real life, but on this forum you carry yourself pretty well, but not well enough for me.

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