This isn't scabies folks its Morgellons

This isn't scabies folks its Morgellons

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endless itch

Kelvedon, UK

#1 Dec 22, 2007
I have put a couple of posts on with a link for you to check.
All the symptoms you are describing don't add up to scabies.They can't be seen with the naked eye and don't lay eggs on beds etc.MORGELLONS DO!!!
Some of symptoms of morgs are.Sore eyes and poor vision./crawling sensation on skin /eyes.Irritation in feet/scalp/face/body.White eggs found in clothes/house/car.Vaginal irritation/urine infections.Sore mouth/teeth probs.Black 'pepper' type dust and dirt in house/car.Stinging sensations on skin/scalp/feet.Can be in garden on plants etc.Does affect pets-skin probs/eye probs.Folk can develop a niggling cough.There are lots of other symptoms.and this disease is spreading in the US,UK,Canada,Australia Africa etc.IN the first place sufferers think they have scabies because its similar but PLEASE check out this site where all symptoms and treatments are listed.
http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/mo...
I hope this is some help to you all
Sam

Livingston, CA

#2 Dec 23, 2007
endless itch, scabies can be seen with the naked eye, just barely, but they can be seen. Maybe there is, and maybe there isn't something called Morgellons. But if it is real, then why can't doctors and scientists find out what it is? It can't be that difficult to take a piece of entwined fiber and use all the technology they have to determine what it is.

I think most, if not all, of the people who think they have morgellons really have scabies, but I also believe there are many different strains of scabies and many of these are resistant to some traditional scabies meds.

Stinging sensations on hands, feet, scalp is scabies. I'm not trying to be mean or argue, just posting my opinion and experience. When I had open sores from the scabies, I could find all kinds of fiber stuff in there, and it scared the crap out of me. But with repeated scabies meds, no more sores, bumps, bites, fibers, pepper dust, white eggs or sand, crawling, or anything. If you think you have Morgellons, please reconsider that you might have scabies.

Since: May 07

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#3 Dec 23, 2007
Why are you posting this?
Morgellons is characterized by colored fibers protruding from the skin. I have never once heard anything of such in this forum.
Welty

AOL

#4 Dec 24, 2007
Consider animal scabies, also. Like bird mites or rodent mites, which are blood feeders who usually do not burrow on the person, and then hide during the day in your house or car. They are often more active after dark. They are super hard to get rid of, because they aren't on you, they're breeding more in the environment and bird mites breed very, very quickly, but you won't see them easily. Think about buying a cheap 30X pocket scope on ebay, plenty big enough. Then, using an adhesive lint roller, sweep it across a fabric place where you've been spending some time and examine the roller in several places with your cheap pocket scope. Or even run the adhesive rollar right over your skin in the dark when you feel something crawling and scope that. I guarantee you will see mites on that roller if you have any, even at 30X magnification. Yeah, you'll see fibers, too. But the mites are what I'm afraid of.
The Human and canine strains of scabies, are more burrowing, more internal, more in webs of hands, around groin, inner arm, folds etc. I don't have any in the webs of my hands. Bird mites bite more on the furred side of the arm, scalp, not uncommon to find only females of the household are affected. May go for the ears or eyes. They don't respond well to Permethins or Pyrethrins, and your environment can be hard to treat. Listen to Sam, he's not being mean, he has helped so many and I think he's probably right about you. I will try to keep an open mind about Morgellons, but first you might try to see if you have a different type of mite that is not textbook human scabies using a cheap pocket scope. Identification is key to figuring out your smartest strategies. You'll learn a lot on this website, for sure. My best wishes for you in the New Year for a cure, Welty
Welty

AOL

#5 Dec 24, 2007
By cheap pocket microscope, I mean they are $6- $10 on ebay. They're easy to use and you can scope anything, it's easy to examine a piece of clear packing tape, for example, after sticking the tape on a suspected area. No slides or expertise are needed for these pocket scopes. A baggie if you don't want to touch something is usually fine or nothing. Get a cheap pocket microcospe if you can and see where your mites like to hang out the most, and if the population is growing or shrinking and ID your foe and know what you're dealing with.
skf

Glasgow, KY

#6 Jul 21, 2009
they call it morgellons .its bird mites and lice that are attacking everyone .ive dealt with it for over two years now .but slowly getiing my life back .
Dbites

Denver, CO

#7 Jul 21, 2009
skf wrote:
they call it morgellons .its bird mites and lice that are attacking everyone .ive dealt with it for over two years now .but slowly getiing my life back .
Lice? aren't body lice really easy to get rid of? It says on most websites a shower a week will kill them, not meds, but most sites on here also say scabies is killed with one treatment, and that does not seem to be true.
skf

Glasgow, KY

#8 Jul 22, 2009
body lice is easy to get rid of yes when you try to get rid of them but mites are not .i talked to a lady the other day thatsfelt them for 10 years .id go nuts
SKF

Glasgow, KY

#9 Jul 23, 2009
the sad think about this disease is when you have a sufferer who wants to get it out there how they feel they got it ,how they cope ,continue everyday life ,and suggest ways to help others no one wants to give them time of day but yet they are helping and trying to figure it all out .i am about 90% morgellons free and at one time the "mites" were so bad i didnt even want to open my mouth to speak .the c.d.c and morgellons foundation are not listening to me at all .i do know it will be over populated before they find a cure and there will be to many to take care of and most of it is because they are like the medical field ,they do not listen and dont take me seriously.
Dbites

Denver, CO

#10 Jul 23, 2009
SKF wrote:
the sad think about this disease is when you have a sufferer who wants to get it out there how they feel they got it ,how they cope ,continue everyday life ,and suggest ways to help others no one wants to give them time of day but yet they are helping and trying to figure it all out .i am about 90% morgellons free and at one time the "mites" were so bad i didnt even want to open my mouth to speak .the c.d.c and morgellons foundation are not listening to me at all .i do know it will be over populated before they find a cure and there will be to many to take care of and most of it is because they are like the medical field ,they do not listen and dont take me seriously.
Yeah no one listens to me ethier. I do not have fiber though so I do not think I have morgellons but I am not getting all the way better and every single person I come in contact with gets this. EVERYONE, but my doctors think I'm crazy. I see zits on them too, but It seems like a lot of people I am around do not get this as bad as I have it they are not, not sleeping because they itch, but they get these little white patches of raised skin surrounded by white dots, and these mites seem to like peoples faces well there noses really. Also a lot of people at my work have what they say are spider bites. I thought I had spider bites at first too, but then the skin crawlling started. Does anyone know if bird mites burrow because I have white mites that are in my skin for sure. I do sometime cough up white stuff but it looks like snot and I smoke so coughing up stuff is not that weird. I have ithchy welts and ithchy zits and white lines from were these thing crawl.
skf

Glasgow, KY

#11 Jul 24, 2009
i also smoke but i have more mucas than normal .when i wake in the morning its because of this crap coming up in my mouth by itself .got to go for a c.t. scan next week because they think i have a infection in my chest cavity that is causing it .after a while you would think that these things invading you would cause an infection .they kept telling me at first that people dont get parasites but the funny thing is i tested positive for lyme disease and have never been bitten by a tick .then they said it was mites but i shouldnt still have them by now .they make a decision for you and walk out of the room like theirs nothing left to say and i am really pissed by that .all the drs that has contracted this weird disease also should speak out .but they wont !!!take some hot baths darlin in some baking soda .use a whole box and see how that makes you feel .its helped me alot .not a huge box just the smaller ones .
Dbites

Denver, CO

#12 Jul 25, 2009
skf wrote:
i also smoke but i have more mucas than normal .when i wake in the morning its because of this crap coming up in my mouth by itself .got to go for a c.t. scan next week because they think i have a infection in my chest cavity that is causing it .after a while you would think that these things invading you would cause an infection .they kept telling me at first that people dont get parasites but the funny thing is i tested positive for lyme disease and have never been bitten by a tick .then they said it was mites but i shouldnt still have them by now .they make a decision for you and walk out of the room like theirs nothing left to say and i am really pissed by that .all the drs that has contracted this weird disease also should speak out .but they wont !!!take some hot baths darlin in some baking soda .use a whole box and see how that makes you feel .its helped me alot .not a huge box just the smaller ones .
Thanks I will try the baking soda I finally found a derm that is listening to me. She did a skin biop. on me so hopfully I will know what I have soon. Good luck with your c.t. scan I hope they find something and start believing you and helping you get better.
Dbites
So many questions

United States

#13 Jul 25, 2009
Welty wrote:
By cheap pocket microscope, I mean they are $6-$10 on ebay. They're easy to use and you can scope anything, it's easy to examine a piece of clear packing tape, for example, after sticking the tape on a suspected area. No slides or expertise are needed for these pocket scopes. A baggie if you don't want to touch something is usually fine or nothing. Get a cheap pocket microcospe if you can and see where your mites like to hang out the most, and if the population is growing or shrinking and ID your foe and know what you're dealing with.
That's the best idea, I have seen in months! I never dreamed they was that cheap, or I would have had one already.

Thanks
idea

Glasgow, KY

#14 Jul 28, 2009
i just took a bath a couple of nights ago in algeacide for swimming pools .i put 1/4/ cup to my water .if it kills micro parasites in contaminatd water then i thought is give it a shot .havnt felt nothing for two days now .i will continue to keep you ibn formed .what i do find on me is very dried out .
you do not want to use this without deluting it .its very toxic and it can burn .im not suggesting you all do it .i just know it has helped .
i know this is miserable good luck to everyone!
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#15 Dec 4, 2009
Is it Morgellons or something else? The test is simple and fast. Look at your skin under a black light. Morgellons lights up brightly under your skin in black light. See video here:
http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/ivan...

We need to focus more on POSITIVE Identification of the precise symptoms. It is clear that people are not properly identifying their symptoms. Then treatments clearly don't work if people have something else.

Vann
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#16 Dec 4, 2009
Endless Itch,
This is a far better site for Morgellons. Many photos & videos to watch. Here we can see that early stages of Morgellons is identical to symptoms of Scabies:
http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons...
Later stages of Morgellons are horrible beyond belief!
USE A BLACK LIGHT TO SEE MORGELLONS!
http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/ivan...
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#17 Dec 7, 2009
IS IT MORGELLONS??
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http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/morgellons.h...
http://www.EarthClinic.com/cures/morgellons.h...
http://www.morgellonsexposed.com/index.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ;
http://www.diatomitecanada.com/links.htm
* Blacklight Test for Morgellons Video
http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii286/ivan...
Red wine, purple grape juice or peroxide swish in mouth releases a LOT of Morgellons Toxins
Sugar feeds this condition
Garlic, tea, YesToCarrots cream helps
Nutrisilver? http://www.nutrasilver.com/
IS IT SCABBIES?
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* Test for scabies with black light:
"Topical tetracycline solution is an alternative to the burrow ink test. After the tetracycline
solution is applied, a B;ack light is then used to examine the burrow. Being a colorless solution, this
method is preferred because large areas of skin can be covered."
http://www.stdsite.com/Scabies/index.html
Vann
Vann from Tennessee

United States

#18 Dec 16, 2009
More that I found on Morgellons:
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"This condition report a range of symptoms including
* crawling, biting and stinging sensations;
* granules, threads or black specks on/beneath the skin {Not seen with ANY other skin condition};
* skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores)
* Also such as fatigue, mental confusion, short term memory loss,
* joint pain, and changes in vision."
http://www.morgellons.org/index.html
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceou...

Vann
birdmitestorture d

United States

#19 Dec 23, 2009
Vann from Tennessee wrote:
More that I found on Morgellons:
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"This condition report a range of symptoms including
* crawling, biting and stinging sensations;
* granules, threads or black specks on/beneath the skin {Not seen with ANY other skin condition};
* skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores)
* Also such as fatigue, mental confusion, short term memory loss,
* joint pain, and changes in vision."
http://www.morgellons.org/index.html
http://howicuredmorgellons.com/melshistory/
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceou...
Vann
You may want to check out this site
http://howicuredmorgellons.com/melshistory/
Vann from Tennessee

Henderson, TN

#20 Jan 1, 2010
I am reposting benG1's message here because of the superb photos he has provided. Especially photos 1 to 5. He has not yet proven Morgellons using a black light bulb, but these photos are superb.

"Hi Vann and all.......
I'm still not 100% convinced that fibres are Morgellons' as collagen fibres can look very similar and okay ,I admit I'm possibly clutching at straws as I don't want to have that GM weirdness, but I think it's possible that ,seeing as this happens after taking iver ,benzyl or perm ,that they are mite debris being ejected .Under a microscope (mine is a (/www.veho-uk.com/productdetai l.aspx?id=73) 400x and is pretty good although not black-light obviously ,I have never seen an insect , mite like organism ;pupae looking things with blue,red and white threads wrapped around them yes ..but never 6/8 legged things. I can't watch the vids as I'm on dial-up . I sent in some specimens to ...maybe I shouldn't say exactly where but it's the UK's leading parasitology lab who have now said they need to do further investigations . Hopefully this a good sign irrespective of scabies/mites/
Morgellons ..I just hope they don't say it's textile fibres ..I've got more images and specimens if needed or I'll try the local C.S.I next time if I don't have any joy there....lol
Anyway have a look at these (comment on the pics there ,not here please ...and they are all welcome)
The password's diamond.....
http://photobucket.com/guestlogin...

Ben,
How did you take these photos? What equipment did you use?

Vann

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