Revolution is not working on my pets....
Mite Killer

United States

#81 Oct 5, 2008
Just a quick hint.....Apply the Revolution directly to the areas on your dog that are being infested.
Welty

AOL

#82 Oct 6, 2008
Re: Catahoula Leopard dog. Probably okay with Iver as I don't think they are a collie relative, but your vet will know about the test for Iver and he or she can do it. GET THIS TEST. If your vet won't give the shots, it's off label, and most vets need some real arm twisting, or you can buy the injectible 1% Iver yourself, and give it orally, works, and no injection site abcess possiblity. You need some needle sryinges to draw it up from the bottle it comes in, to keep the rest of the contents of the bottle to stay sterile. Also, you'll need some oral (needleless) syringes to give it to your dog. Get plenty. You cannot put the needle back in the bottle because it might contaminate it - a big no no as no telling what kind of bacteria you could be growing in there- always use a fresh syringe to draw it up. If you don't get enough for some reason, use a new one. Then, to give the dose, transfer to an oral syringe and measure again carefully, it's easy but don't do it hastily either. Get the right dose from your vet even if they won't give the shots, but it should be 0.1 one tenth of a cc per l0 pounds. Revolution did not work for my cat and Iver did. It took a little while. But Revolution did not work in six months at 2X month.... just chased the mites into my cat's ears and feet. Would you be able to try your dog in Lymdyp? That is a truly safe and time honored mange treatment and guarantees you won't be reinfested from your dog. It keeps them from getting reinfested for a solid week. It's very effective. Very safe. Weekly treatment. Make up a quart of Lymdyp, put them in ankle deep and sponge it on the rest of him. Once dry your dog won't smell bad to you, like matches. But the solution will smell like deviled eggs. I can do my cat in three minutes flat. I get the feet well (she's in it there, and it gets her worst area. I also get the tail well. And the Armpits well and anywhere she had crusts. She doesn't mind too bad. I wear gloves and a hefty bag suit. I dry her off in her carrier with an old sweatshirt and put her near a heater. Dogs are supposed to like bad smells, so this is an option that is cheap and effective. Remember, as soon as your dog is dry, he will smell completely different, and you won't mind it.
Infested

Auburn, NY

#83 Oct 18, 2008
My two cats are on their first course of Revolution and I've seen absolutely no change. I'm supposed to bring them back to the vet in another week for their second application, but after reading these posts, I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to give them a sulfur dip and take them in for an Iver shot. The problem will be trying to get the vet to go along with the plan. Heaven forbid a lowly customer question his holyness...
Eileen PA

Warrington, PA

#84 Oct 19, 2008
ok after 4 mos of misdiagnosis and dealing with scabies, now dealing with no seeums allergies, I have become quite paranoid about the bugs. living in fear has made me a little crazy and I used the dog revolution 1/2 dose. does anyone know the affect it has on humans or should I stop obscessing and just realize I did a really stupid thing?
Mite Killer

United States

#85 Oct 25, 2008
just found a interesting read.
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.pl...

Revolution="Selamectin is the only systemic treatment licensed for the treatment of canine scabies. It is a novel avermectin which is presented as effective at the dose of 6 to 12 mg/kg applied twice at a one-month interval as a spot-on. Some dermatologists have seen failures with this regimen and recommend the use of this product thrice at biweekly intervals. Also, the slow response to this molecule is a concern when a therapeutic trial is envisaged and this product should perhaps be restricted to confirmed cases and/or to the treatment of animals in contact with affected dogs."
Mite Killer

United States

#86 Oct 25, 2008
Revolution used to be the only licensed treatment for canine scabies. Advantage Multi(moxidectin) is now licensed.
Scabby scabies

United States

#87 Nov 2, 2008
'Mite Killer-Thanks for your info on the Revolution...I suspected this inefficacy....I've been using it bimonthly on my Catahoula and have seen absolutely NO improvement...now I've ordered and used Paramite, which has been discontinued by the distributor because it is so environmentally toxic, and is so dangerous it can't even be disposed of down the drain, b/c it will kill anything it comes into contact with and will contaminate water supply. I follow the titration instructions exactly,'even have made it just a tiny bit stronger after seeing no results whatsoever...and NOTHING. My poor dog has been through hell....I also ordered Happy Jack's "mange medicine"- which is turpentine, 28% sulfur, linseed oil, tar oil...and when I use that, it TRASHES every single thing he rubs up against or sits on in the house- even when he is 100 % dry... it stains all fabrics, soaks through layers and layers of towels, etc. and he doesn't seem to scratch as much when it's CAKED on him (I've tried experimenting with different amounts rubbed into his skin) but nothing really kills the mites or even keeps them at bay...the sulfur might be doing a tiny, tiny bit.
I am beside myself...am waiting for the Ivermectin tests to come back (to see if he has the gene in herding dogs that would make it dangerous for him to take) but I just cannot get help from any vet.s ...!?! They are telling me that if Revolution is not working, then it's just NOT scabies that I'm dealing with!?! I have even shown the printing you referenced here...Have you found any more literature similar to that (the link you posted on the inefficacious Selamectin)...? I am now dipping into student loan money to pay the vet bills that have accrued from all of this, and the dermatologist wants to go back to skin scrapings and microscopes- to see if it's a food allergy if we can't find a "mite on a slide"....ARE YOU KIDDING ME !?!? We all KNOW a sarcoptic mite will SO RARELY show on a scraping....! I want to throw myself off a balcony...'ARRRRGH! Have you had any better luck with Interceptor?????
Mite Killer

United States

#88 Nov 3, 2008
Scabby scabies wrote:
'Mite Killer-Thanks for your info on the Revolution...I suspected this inefficacy....I've been using it bimonthly on my Catahoula and have seen absolutely NO improvement...now I've ordered and used Paramite, which has been discontinued by the distributor because it is so environmentally toxic, and is so dangerous it can't even be disposed of down the drain, b/c it will kill anything it comes into contact with and will contaminate water supply. I follow the titration instructions exactly,'even have made it just a tiny bit stronger after seeing no results whatsoever...and NOTHING. My poor dog has been through hell....I also ordered Happy Jack's "mange medicine"- which is turpentine, 28% sulfur, linseed oil, tar oil...and when I use that, it TRASHES every single thing he rubs up against or sits on in the house- even when he is 100 % dry... it stains all fabrics, soaks through layers and layers of towels, etc. and he doesn't seem to scratch as much when it's CAKED on him (I've tried experimenting with different amounts rubbed into his skin) but nothing really kills the mites or even keeps them at bay...the sulfur might be doing a tiny, tiny bit.
I am beside myself...am waiting for the Ivermectin tests to come back (to see if he has the gene in herding dogs that would make it dangerous for him to take) but I just cannot get help from any vet.s ...!?! They are telling me that if Revolution is not working, then it's just NOT scabies that I'm dealing with!?! I have even shown the printing you referenced here...Have you found any more literature similar to that (the link you posted on the inefficacious Selamectin)...? I am now dipping into student loan money to pay the vet bills that have accrued from all of this, and the dermatologist wants to go back to skin scrapings and microscopes- to see if it's a food allergy if we can't find a "mite on a slide"....ARE YOU KIDDING ME !?!? We all KNOW a sarcoptic mite will SO RARELY show on a scraping....! I want to throw myself off a balcony...'ARRRRGH! Have you had any better luck with Interceptor?????
I have read that some vets use a spot-on every 10 days instead of bi-monthly to treat an existing persistant case of mange. This treatment may be reserved for dogs that cannot tolorate high doses of avermectins, I'm not sure. Ask your vet if this might be a safe option for your dog?
I am wondering myself if your dog has mange. Mange can be diagnosed visually. My dog had sores, smelled bad, dark areas of skin, hair loss and itching, scratcing and head shaking. If your dog has a very bad case of mange your vet should have no trouble finding mites in scrapings. My vet found mites on my dog and so did I(and I saw them using a microscope).
Lime dips are pretty safe but the face should be avoided and that means mites on the face would survive.
Spot-ons:
Advantage Multi: moxidectin-bi-monthly
FRONTLINE PLUS: fipronil with an IGR-multiple monthly treatments.
FRONTLINE SPRAY: use as directed
Revolution: selamectin-bi-monthly
Mite Killer

United States

#89 Nov 3, 2008
My pets tolorate avermectins and milbemycins so I have not had to consider using Interceptor...but if used for mange..it's used at an off-label dose and has to supervised by a veterinarian.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm...

Here is a cut and paste from the above literature from Drs. Fosters and Smith peteducation.com

"In dogs that are sensitive to ivermectin, some veterinarians have been having success using milbemycin oxime (Interceptor) at an off-label dose. All of these products should only be used under direct veterinary supervision and care."
Welty

AOL

#90 Nov 8, 2008
What's the off label dose?
Lemmy

Houston, TX

#91 Jan 28, 2011
Infested wrote:
My two cats are on their first course of Revolution and I've seen absolutely no change. I'm supposed to bring them back to the vet in another week for their second application, but after reading these posts, I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to give them a sulfur dip and take them in for an Iver shot. The problem will be trying to get the vet to go along with the plan. Heaven forbid a lowly customer question his holyness...
.

Sounds like you need to find a better vet!
Jan

United States

#92 Jan 6, 2013
Itching as a way of life wrote:
We've seen 3 doctors, and not one could diagnose us. Where can I get %5 permethrin online? I really don't know what we have, but I feel them biting me all over. My cat and dog are suffering as is my husband. We find black specks all over us and we have little tiny pin prick bites all over. One person said it might be walking dandruff, because both of our pets are also being affected. We've seen two vets. First time I was given Frontline, and the second Revolution. We are getting to the point of just accepting that we are going to be plaqued by this. Once we get the sulfer dip, we are going to use the sublimed sulfer on ourselves mixed with castor oil. I don't know if my husband will be able to handle it though as epson salts contains sulfer, and it makes him breakout terribly. I'm also buying the fleabusters for the carpet. We bombed the house twice already, and it didn't help. We had an exterminator treat our house and our yard twice to no avail. Does anyone think that diamataceous earth or nematodes might work?
I was just wondering if you ever got relief and If so, what did you do? We are in the same boat..
Jan

United States

#93 Jan 6, 2013
I was just wondering if anyone on here ever got relief and if so, what helped? We have two cats that don't have any signs of mange I.e., no hair loss, crusty areas or black stuff in the ears, but they scratch at their ears, necks and faces constantly. My husband and I started itching and feeling bugs biting us almost a year also. I actually feel bugs crawling on my shins but my husband doesn't. We have used permithrin 3 times and have been using revolution on the cats every 2 weeks for months per a vet dermatologist. The revolution helps but it doesn't eradicate them. I have not tried iver but it sounds like people have had better luck with it. How many injections does it typically take on cats? My husband wants to get rid of the cats and I love my cats like they are my kids. I don't know what else to do. Considering boarding them for a few weeks to see what happens. If anyone has had any success I would love to hear it.
Jan

Orlando, FL

#96 Jan 10, 2013
Welty wrote:
After my cat's first Iver shot, virtually all the brown gunk in her ears that started with the Revolution diappeared. I am sure it was mite wastes like ear mites leave. Now all her lifelong dander is gone. Iver shots are like a miracle. Revolution always gave my cat a stagger for a day after applying. It also didn't work at a very aggessive protocol. Iver shots are great.
Hi Welty, how many iver injections did you have to use on your cats? Did you ever have a re-infestation?
Shel

Saint Petersburg, FL

#97 May 30, 2013
My sister has given me scabies twice just by sitting in my chair. She is a scabies carrier who just won't treat her problem. This second time she ALSO infected my dogs. I can tell you it is EASY to kill scabies on a human by using a 50% bleach 50% water solution. Just apply it to the affected area that itches. It kills eggs too. This is all you need to do! You don't need to treat your house or your full body. Needless to say my sister will not be allowed over to my house any more. Now as for treating my dogs, I am going to try Advocate and sulfur lime dips. I can't use the spot bleach treatment on my dogs because I can't find where the scabies are.
Juliaetal

Brandon, Canada

#98 Nov 10, 2014
I have used ivermectin on my cat with little response. I then used Revolution bi-weekly for the past 2 months and i have seen some improvement. He is gaining weight again, his fur is thicker and shiny and his ears are not hot to the touch as much. I can tell that he feels well a couple days after a dose is given until about day 7 then he starts shaking his head again and biting at his tail and body and going downhill.
I have ordered more Revolution. I am going to give it every 7 days for 3 weeks and hopefully that will kill them. I read about how studies on cats with very high doses of Revolution have had no adverse reactions so this is my plan. I have heard of people having success giving ivermectin every three days as well with success.
I will give it monthly after that for maintenance. Fingers crossed.
Good luck people. It is not an easy battle.
David

Hollywood, FL

#99 Nov 11, 2014
Juliaetal wrote:
I have used ivermectin on my cat with little response. I then used Revolution bi-weekly for the past 2 months and i have seen some improvement. He is gaining weight again, his fur is thicker and shiny and his ears are not hot to the touch as much. I can tell that he feels well a couple days after a dose is given until about day 7 then he starts shaking his head again and biting at his tail and body and going downhill.
I have ordered more Revolution. I am going to give it every 7 days for 3 weeks and hopefully that will kill them. I read about how studies on cats with very high doses of Revolution have had no adverse reactions so this is my plan. I have heard of people having success giving ivermectin every three days as well with success.
I will give it monthly after that for maintenance. Fingers crossed.
Good luck people. It is not an easy battle.
Revolution is just not as strong as the ivomec 1%. The best for mange is ivomec 1%. Since it is a med made for cattle, you only use about one tenth of a millimeter or two tenths of a millimeter between the shoulders blades of your cat. rub it into her fur really good. Don't repeat again until a week. This should help. Although Revolution is an avermectin, like ivermectin, it just doesn't work that well and it is extremely expensive. Always seek the advice of a reputable and qualified vet for your pets. Good luck.
looking

Hollywood, FL

#100 Mar 21, 2015
There are different types of mites effecting furry animals than just sarcoptic mites. Read this,

http://www.guinealynx.info/mites.html
rhonda

Delta, Canada

#104 Apr 8, 2015
Can I use revolution a second time if first is not working it's been one week
Tara

Milwaukee, WI

#105 Jun 15, 2015
rhonda wrote:
Can I use revolution a second time if first is not working it's been one week
Honestly, I'm treating my dog weekly now. The vet would only give me 12 vials of Revolution. So, I rotate between Revo, Frontline and Advantix II. Each has a different active ingredient, but all are effective against Scabies mites. She looks and feels fantastic!

I'll keep treating her until I'm cured. I'm sure we're passing the bugs back and forth.

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